Under a low United Nations population growth forecast, the world would still end up consuming 19.16 billion TOE, or about 223 petawatt-hours a year, up 46 percent from 13.15 TOE or around 153 petawatt-hours in 2015.
“I have not included the high forecast because it produces silly demands on Earth resources,” commented Mearns in his analysis.
It is unclear how society will cope with the energy demands of even a medium forecast in population. BP, for example, sees natural gas and crude oil running out in the 2060s.
Even the longevity of coal, which is expected to last well into the next century, could be overstated, according to production curve studies by David Rutledge, Kiyo and Eiko Tomiyasu Professor Emeritus of Engineering at the California Institute of Technology.
Rutledge told GTM he expected coal to stop playing a major role in the global energy mix within 60 years. “Many of us have felt that coal production will peak when China peaks,” he said. “It may already have happened.”
Nuclear power could step in. China is set to lean heavily on the technology, with plans to triple its nuclear generating capacity in the next two decades. Elsewhere, though, nuclear has lost its shine.
In the U.S., for example, nuclear plants are struggling to remain commercially viable despite the administration’s haphazard attempts to support the industry. In Europe, even France is backtracking on nuclear. The outlook for new generation in the U.K. remains uncertain.
Nuclear proponents point to new technologies, from small modular reactors to thorium plants, which could potentially overcome many of the disadvantages of today’s designs. But bringing these novel reactor ideas to market is not proving easy. That leaves renewable energy and efficiency.
In BP’s 2018 Energy Outlook, the oil and gas giant predicted — for the first time — that liquid fuel demand (not supply) would peak in the late 2030s. “Growth of fuels used in transport slows as the impact of rising prosperity is offset by efficiency gains,” the report states. Encouraging greater efficiency across the entire energy sector would help to mitigate unsustainable demand, but wouldn’t entirely solve the problem.
Renewables are the other lever society can pull.
Stanford University’s Professor Mark Jacobson has famously claimed the world could be 100 percent powered by wind, water and sunlight by 2050, but it is not clear how his models might scale to account for population and per capita energy growth by the end of the century.
Furthermore, Jacobson’s work remains controversial. Last year, Jacobson filed a $10 million lawsuit (recently dropped) against the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences and grid researcher Chris Clack over a paper that called Jacobson’s work “a poorly executed exploration of an interesting hypothesis.”
Concerns with 100 percent renewable models tend to focus on monetary cost and how to deal with intermittency. But an equally big challenge might be renewable energy’s energy return on investment (EROI).
This is the amount of energy gained from an energy production technology relative to the energy that must be used to get it.
A very low EROI means it is only marginally worthwhile to develop a technology, and below a given level you may not get enough surplus back to sustain society. Hydroelectric power has the highest known EROI, at 84:1, albeit with large variations depending on the site.
Wind scores a respectable 18:1 and solar comes in at 10:1. But the EROIs of intermittent renewables suffer heavily if they have to be tied to battery storage or backup systems to provide a reliable supply.
All of this may mean society will have to go through some serious readjustments this century, said Charles Hall, author of Energy and the Wealth of Nations and the founding father of the EROI concept. “What’s the future? I don’t think it’s going to be like it is now,” Hall said.
“Can we build a good structure on renewable energy? I think perhaps. But my economics co-author, Kent Klitgaard, says, ‘You can’t have capitalism,’ because capitalism requires growth. As soon as you bring that up, you open a whole new can of worms.”
This story was updated to include findings from BP’s 2018 Energy Outlook.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 2:31 pm
Hey clogg
You think you are going to win a race war with these people?
https://imgur.com/a/d7sgT
Can you imagine Lebron with a machine gun in his hands?
Cloggie on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 3:43 pm
Old whitey is going extinct!
Yes apneaman/milimind, your tribe has done immense damage to European civilization, but the end of your damaging influence is now in sight. Now comes the Day of Reckoning, as usual:
https://sputniknewslv.com/images/398/14/3981464.jpg
Nothing is forgotten. And Vlad the European kicked your ass in Syria.lol
Oh and we are going to take over your Americans, half of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrm_JAnVKzI
You and George S. can keep the cucks (and the East Coast). We all know who the cucks are on this board.
Cloggie on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 3:54 pm
Hey clogg
You think you are going to win a race war with these people?
Absolutely not, they can’t even beat North-Vietnam or Eyeraq, just like they could not defeat the British in 1776 on their own. No morale, no killer-instinct. Harder material is required to tilt the balance. From Eurasia. America was a mistake, we want it back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT9YKjn67Og
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 4:16 pm
Clogg
That rally in Virginia was pathetic! Carrying tiki torches is laughable! Why didn’t they have their rally in a downtown of a major city? Oh yea they would have got their whitey asses kicked! That is why they choose imbread ville USA
Cloggie on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 4:30 pm
That rally in Virginia was pathetic!
Why’s that? Wasn’t the rally peer-reviewed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9xHhbG3wvk
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 4:35 pm
State of the world causing a boom in doomsday prep industry
https://nypost.com/2017/08/17/state-of-the-world-causing-a-boom-in-doomsday-prep-industry/
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 4:38 pm
The Clogg Starter pack
https://imgur.com/a/Y784y
Cloggie on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 4:38 pm
State of the world causing a boom in doomsday prep industry
War is coming al(t)right, to the US.
In Europe virtually nobody is prepping. Too pre-occupied with the economic boom.
Cloggie on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 4:39 pm
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PGUF48Ds6fI/maxresdefault.jpg
Millimind after he got a good spank from his mom.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 4:40 pm
Clogg
You mean economic depression?
https://imgur.com/a/HXBkr#Bv4I4AF
Numbers don’t lie….
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 4:42 pm
World Scientists “Warning to Humanity” Signed by 15,000 Scientists from 184 Countries Including the Majority of all Nobel Prize Winners
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171113111127.htm
Scientific American: Apocalypse Soon: Has Civilization Passed the Environmental Point of No Return?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/apocalypse-soon-has-civilization-passed-the-environmental-point-of-no-return/
Peer Reviewed Study: Society Could Collapse In A Decade, Predicts Historian (Turchin, 2010)
https://www.nature.com/articles/463608a
NASA Peer Reviewed Study: Industrial Civilization is Headed for Irreversible Collapse (Motesharrei, 2014)
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800914000615
The Royal Society: Peer Reviewed Study, Now for the First Time A Global Collapse Appears Likely (Ehrlich, 2013)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3574335/
Peer Reviewed Study: Limits to Growth was Right. Research Shows We’re Nearing Global Collapse (Turner, 2014)
http://sustainable.unimelb.edu.au/sites/default/files/docs/MSSI-ResearchPaper-4_Turner_2014.pdf
Peer Reviewed Study: Financial System Supply-Chain Cross-Contagion: Global Systemic Collapse (Korowicz, 2012)
http://www.feasta.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Trade-Off1.pdf
Cloggie on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 11:23 pm
“Numbers don’t lie….”
That’s OECD. Continental Europe is currently on average doing better than US, Japan, UK (and Italy).
http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/09/news/economy/europe-economy-upswing/index.html
https://youtu.be/PM9_PrBoq9Q
Indeed, numbers don’t lie.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 11:28 pm
Clogg
Why are citing that stupid CNN article again? It doesn’t even talk about Europe’s GDP…And Europe is included in the OECD..You uneducated fool!
Ouch look at the forty year decline! Source “World Bank”
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.KD.ZG?locations=EU
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 11:31 pm
Clogg
1.6 percent GDP per cap is great now?
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.KD.ZG?locations=EU
Sorry numbers don’t lie!
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 11:34 pm
Shell : Beware Natural Gas Shortage Coming
Shell says that they expect LNG demand to grow by a explossive 500M metric tons/year by 2030. Supplies on the other hand will fall by 300M tons/year due to a lack of new projects and natural declines in existing production.
https://www.investing.com/analysis/beware-natural-gas-shortage-200294607
Oh no clogg we have oil and gas both peaking now and shortages for both coming soon! Hope you don’t need to any light, heat, or motion! LOL
Cloggie on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 11:47 pm
“Ouch look at the forty year decline! Source “World Bank””
You keep peddling these 2015 numbers, apneaman. This is 2018. Since 2015 my modest apartment gained $100k. Some recession.
http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/soziales/eurozone-wirtschaft-so-stark-gewachsen-wie-seit-zehn-jahren-nicht-mehr-a-1190517.html
Die Wirtschaft in der Eurozone ist im vergangenen Jahr so stark gewachsen wie zuletzt 2007, also vor der Finanzkrise. Sowohl in der EU als auch in der Eurozone stieg die Wirtschaftsleistung im vergangenen Jahr um 2,5 Prozent, wie die Statistikbehörde Eurostat mitteilte. In beiden Fällen war das ein Zehn-Jahres-Hoch.
Economic growth in the EU + euroland has returned to 2007-levels and in 2017 was 2.5%, which is a lot for a mature economy like the EU. And it is not over yet and will probably last until the world will be thrown into geopolitical chaos shortly after Trump, when your tribe will (briefly) return to power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyvhFgCybpg
President Trump’s mysterious “calm before the storm” comments
He is not talking about Iran or North-Korea but America itself.
Cloggie on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 11:54 pm
Oh no clogg we have oil and gas both peaking now and shortages for both coming soon! Hope you don’t need to any light, heat, or motion! LOL
https://www.daskapital.nl/5150321/rusland-tegen-nederland-jullie-hebben-ons-gas-nodig-bitches/
Russia to the Netherlands: “You need our gas, bitches”. So true. You don’t mind we keep relations with Russia warm, now do you apneaman, so we can keep ourselves warm.
But I see you are still posting millimind at this late hour (or early hour for me). How is the weather in Vancouver?
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 11:55 pm
Clogg
Your apartment gained value due to low interest rates thanks to the ECB…You are so uneducated its laughable! And the world bank had data up to 2016. Funny you deny numbers and facts now huh?
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.KD.ZG?locations=EU
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 11:58 pm
Clogg
I dont know who apeman is? You are just a paranoid loon who believes in things without evidence! Don’t worry soon the depression will be over and the <IT limits to growth economic collapse will happen..And then you will go to sleep!
http://sustainable.unimelb.edu.au/sites/default/files/docs/MSSI-ResearchPaper-4_Turner_2014.pdf
Cloggie on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 12:02 am
Oh no clogg we have oil and gas both peaking now and shortages for both coming soon! Hope you don’t need to any light, heat, or motion! LOL
Nord Stream very much alive and to be completed next year:
http://transportationandstorage.energy-business-review.com/news/allseas-wins-offshore-pipelay-contract-for-8bn-nord-stream-2-project-230217-5747324
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-nordstream-intesa/intesa-still-looking-at-financing-nord-stream-2-ria-idUSKCN1G909X
So forget about instigating a war in Europe, not going to work. First time a tragedy (Poland), second time a farce.
We say goodbye to the West and America, it was nice knowing you. And we loved the Osmond Brothers, we really did:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXO7-aAzUO4
And give us a call when the troubles in North-America will begin so we can intervene. Somebody needs to defuse that ticking time bomb with thousand of nukes lying around.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 12:05 am
Clogg
Too bad the whole global economy is going to collapse soon. Including your shit hole countries. And pipelines won’t help if there is no gas to send through them you idiot!
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0016236114010254
https://imgur.com/a/eyGya
Cloggie on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 12:08 am
I dont know who apeman is?
Just look in the mirror and you’ll remember.
That was that poster from Vancouver who, just like you, spammed this board with excessive doom messages around the clock. He “accidentally” left this forum on exactly the same moment you arrived, while you “both” gave each other a short “handshake”, with you blasting him for worrying about climate change, where peak oil was the real deal. What you really wanted was an “identity reset”, away from being a “Talmud-Turk”, towards your new found “Scottishness”.
Cloggie on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 12:10 am
Too bad the whole global economy is going to collapse soon. Including your shit hole countries. And pipelines won’t help if there is no gas to send through them you idiot!
Dream on with your desired peak-oil induced social collapse. There is enough to fry the entire planet 100 times over.
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2015/04/07/fracking-is-for-amateurs/
MASTERMIND on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 12:31 am
Clogg
Is your blog link peer reviewed? My sources are! The Science Journal of Fuel!
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0016236114010254
https://imgur.com/a/eyGya
GregT on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 12:51 am
MM,
“All three scenarios suggest that world coal production may peak before 2025 due to peaking Chinese production and that only natural gas could have strong growth in the future.”
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0016236114010254
As per usual, you are completely full of BS.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 12:54 am
Greg
the right chart is the best guess and shows gas peaking soon. Conventional gas already peaked back in 2000.
Shell : Beware Natural Gas Shortage Coming
https://www.investing.com/analysis/beware-natural-gas-shortage-200294607
The Shale Gas Revolution Is A Media Myth
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/The-Shale-Gas-Revolution-Is-A-Media-Myth.html
MASTERMIND on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 12:56 am
Greg
Gas peaked back in 2000 that is why the price spiked sky high! And that is why we are fracking unconventional gas now.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/hist/n9190us3m.htm
GregT on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 1:24 am
I am in complete agreement with most of the reports that you continue to link to MM. None of them come to the same conclusions as you have.
You are completely full of BS, as per usual.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 1:25 am
Scientists find magic mushrooms could help fight fascism
Researchers found unlikely heroes in keeping the world from authoritarianism – magic mushrooms. Scientists from the Psychedelic Research Group at Imperial College London showed that psilocybin, the active compound in psychedelic mushrooms, makes people less likely to embrace authoritarian views like fascism and more connected with nature.
http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/scientists-find-magic-mushrooms-could-help-fight-fascism
I doubt it would work on Greg and Clogg though! They love their authoritarians (Putin and Trump) way too much!
MASTERMIND on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 1:28 am
Greg
its all in your mind! Just like Davy who claims I am posting “empty links”? Denialism is another form of insanity that is prevalent.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 1:31 am
The End of the Oil Age is Imminent!
Recently, the HSBC oil report stated that 80% of conventional oil fields were declining at a rate of 5-7% per year. This means that there will be an oil shortage of ~30 million barrels per day by 2030 and ~40 million barrels per day by 2040.
http://www.scribd.com/document/367688629/HSBC-Peak-Oil-Report-2017
What is mentioned far less often is that annual oil discoveries have lagged annual production since the 1980s.
https://imgur.com/a/6dEDt
Now, this problem has nothing to do with the recent decline in the oil price, which started in 2014. This has been an on-going problem for the past 30 years. Now, the IEA is predicting oil shortages by ~2020 due to declining exploration.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/iea-says-global-oil-discoveries-at-record-low-in-2016-1493244000
Here, the IEA blames this problem on the low oil price. But, this problem started in the 1980s. The problem is geological: we are running out of conventional cheap oil. Shale and tar sands are not the answer, either. Those resources are far too expensive, compared to conventional oil, because the global economy is based on cheap conventional oil. Expensive oil is not a replacement for cheap oil.
Based upon the HSBC report and the IEA, the End of Oil Age will start around ~2020: there will be a dramatic economic depression due to exhaustion of cheap oil. This will cause a global economic collapse.
Oil and gas shortages coming soon + 230 Trillion of world debt = Global Economic collapse!
Limits to growth will be vindicated!
http://sustainable.unimelb.edu.au/sites/default/files/docs/MSSI-ResearchPaper-4_Turner_2014.pdf
GregT on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 1:33 am
“I doubt it would work on Greg and Clogg though!”
Magic mushrooms grow wild here MM, and can be found pretty much everywhere.
GregT on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 1:36 am
“Just like Davy who claims I am posting “empty links”?”
Davy would be correct. If you believe that there is something in those links that supports your conclusions, then by all means provide quotes.
Otherwise, you are completely full of shit. As per usual.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 1:41 am
Greg
I just did right above from the HSBC report and the WSJ article on the IEA..Duh..
The close alignment between the LTG BAU scenario and observed developments over the last fourdecades, as well as the correspondence in the underlying dynamics described above, portend of potential
global collapse. Although the general commentary on the LTG describes collapse occurring sometime mid-century (and the LTG authors stressed not interpreting the time scale too precisely), the BAU scenario implies that a relatively rapid fall in economic conditions and the population
could be imminent. Indeed, other aspects of oil supply constraints explored in the following, indicate that the ongoing economic downturn of the GFC may be representative of an imminent BAU style collapse.
http://sustainable.unimelb.edu.au/sites/default/files/docs/MSSI-ResearchPaper-4_Turner_2014.pdf
MASTERMIND on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 1:43 am
As M. King Hubbert (1956) shows, peak oil is about discovering less oil, and eventually producing less oil due to lack of discovery.
https://imgur.com/a/6dEDt
IEA Chief warns of world oil shortages by 2020 as discoveries fall to record lows
https://www.wsj.com/articles/iea-says-global-oil-discoveries-at-record-low-in-2016-1493244000
Saudi Aramco CEO sees oil shortage coming as investments, oil discoveries drop
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aramco-oil/aramco-ceo-sees-oil-supply-shortage-as-investments-discoveries-drop-idUSKBN19V0KR
Peak Oil Vindicated by the IEA and Saudi Arabia
MASTERMIND on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 1:44 am
Existing oil reserves are scheduled to begin a catastrophic crash within 1 to 3 years. When it hits the economic and social damage will be catastrophic. The end of Western Civilization, from China to Europe, to the US, will not occur when oil runs out. The economic and social chaos will occur when supplies are merely reduced sufficiently….
https://imgur.com/a/6dEDt
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v481/n7382/full/481433a.html
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301421509001281
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030142151300342X
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0016236114010254
http://www.geo.cornell.edu/eas/energy/the_challenges/peak_oil.html
http://www.energybulletin.net/sites/default/files/Peak%20Oil_Study%20EN.pdf
http://www.scribd.com/document/367688629/HSBC-Peak-Oil-Report-2017
GregT on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 1:45 am
“Here, the IEA blames this problem on the low oil price. But, this problem started in the 1980s. The problem is geological: we are running out of conventional cheap oil. Shale and tar sands are not the answer, either. Those resources are far too expensive, compared to conventional oil, because the global economy is based on cheap conventional oil. Expensive oil is not a replacement for cheap oil.”
In reality, the problem began in the US in the early 1970s.
All nations did not reach peak “conventional” oil at the same time, and some nations still have not. There is no “we” about it. It would be every “man” for himself.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 1:45 am
Greg
I post quotes from links and then you tell I am lying and I should post quotes from links…LOL Pure Orwellian double think
MASTERMIND on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 1:47 am
Greg
Conventional Oil Peaked in 2006 –IEA-EIA-NATURE-SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN
https://imgur.com/a/JF4iA
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v481/n7382/full/481433a.html
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/has-peak-oil-already-happened/
As predicted by M King Hubbert!
GregT on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 1:49 am
“Existing oil reserves are scheduled to begin a catastrophic crash within 1 to 3 years. When it hits the economic and social damage will be catastrophic. The end of Western Civilization, from China to Europe, to the US, will not occur when oil runs out. The economic and social chaos will occur when supplies are merely reduced sufficiently….”
For about the 50th time; None of those links come to the same conclusions as you have.
You are completely full of shit MM, and the fact that you keep playing this childish little game, makes you a liar as well, and a really stupid one at that.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 1:54 am
Greg why so triggered and calling me so many names? LOL
MASTERMIND on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 1:56 am
World & OECD Economic Growth GDP
https://imgur.com/a/C4QFQ
Global Economic Growth GDP Per Capita (1.3%)
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.KD.ZG
World Governments Gross Debt to GDP (330%)
https://imgur.com/a/3usX7
Simple really….when the World Economy Collapses everything shuts down…the end… We’re talking about grids down all over the world and 7.5B people dropping like f*** flies in short order. The collapse will be absolutely horrible..There is no collapse or horror movie ever produced that has even come close to imagining what the collapse of BAU might look like. I’m talking about every corporation and every social program going bankrupt at once. I’m talking about people eating people. I’m talking about the Worst Catastrophe to ever happen in the history of mankind. Nothing has ever, or will ever come close….
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800914000615
https://www.nature.com/articles/463608a
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3574335/
http://sustainable.unimelb.edu.au/sites/default/files/docs/MSSI-ResearchPaper-4_Turner_2014.pdf
http://www.feasta.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Trade-Off1.pdf
GregT on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 1:57 am
MM,
I have argued here many time in the past, that the peak in “conventional” oil production likely occurred ~2000, just as Hubbert predicted that it would.
GregT on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 2:05 am
“Greg why so triggered and calling me so many names? LOL”
Because you keep repeating the same BS over and over, with nothing to substantiate your conclusions.
LOL
MASTERMIND on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 2:14 am
Greg
Your screams of denial sound like the squealing of a pig beginning delivered to the butchers shop. The volume of their protestations being directly proportional to the proximity of their inevitable fate….
MASTERMIND on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 2:18 am
Anti-Semitic incidents rise 60 per cent in a year in US
Number marks the largest increase of any year on record
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/anti-semitism-hate-crime-harassment-attacks-rise-increase-jewish-anti-defamation-league-a8231871.html?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter
GregT on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 2:22 am
I’m not in denial MM. I agree with most of the links that you’ve provided, that I read a long time ago. I see difficult and troubling times ahead, especially for those who are accustomed to high standards of living, like the vast majority of us living in the ‘West’.
Antius on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 6:03 am
One thing that frustrates me with my own government (UK) is their more or less complete incompetence when dealing with anything, far less a real emergency such as the one we are facing.
The UK has a number of start-up initiatives that could fill our energy gap if given sufficient government support in the early stages. But the government dithers and its official policy seems to be in a constant state of flux.
I used to think these people were rotten and corrupt and out to destroy their own people. Having read the book ‘Broken Vows’ concerning the conduct of the UK’s last Labour government, I have come to realise that these people are actually clueless incompetents, with no real idea of what they are doing or what is going on around them. We may as well pull a bunch of random people off the streets and ask them to form a government. That is about as competent as a British government really is.
Cloggie on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 3:29 pm
GSR says – So explain me how your whole European Union is being destroyed by some Bitch named Angela Merkel.
Why are all your phucking countrymen voting this Hideous old Nag Bitch into office? Why don’t you put her into an insane asylum where she belongs?
I’m Dutch not D(e)ut(s)ch and I have been voting populist since Pim Fortuyn in 2002 (unfortunately green-right parties do not exist). In Holland populist now have 20% in the polls and the 2nd party.
Know what the Fuck we did? We voted TRUMP into office!
Yes I know, good for you. I still support him.
We solved our problems, the BITCH is gone. Bye bye dont have to deal with the BITCH anymore she is out of power.
So why can’t you people get rid of YOUR
Fat Old Ugly Lunatic Nasty Old Bitch who
is filling up your countries with foreigners?
Your problems are not solved in a long shot, with Trump you merely bought yourself some time and perhaps a wall. But when Trump will be gone in 2025 at the latest, all your problems will return, in spades, because your demographics will be worse than in 2016. After Trump, white America will never have a chance to vote a candidate representing its interests ever again.
The so-called deep state is merely sitting out Trump, while waiting for an opportunity to dump him long before 2025.
On top of that, you were just lucky with a volunteer like Trump, who wrong-footed the entire US establishment. What is almost absent though in North-America is a popular movement, with street presence of angry people (Charlottesville is a very late early response).
In Europe in contrast we have angry populists/nationalists for decades, to begin with in France (and Belgium):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reUl4YvAcB4
…with explicitly articulated anti-multicult voice. From these movement armed revolutionary movements can erupt easily.
This is Germany last week:
http://www.pi-news.net/2018/02/cottbus-flammende-reden-von-kubitschek-mueller-bilge-daebritz/
In many German cities we now have “Merkel-muss weg” (“Merkel must go”) rallies on a daily basis ()
In still very white Italy, Berlusconi has a good chance to regain a dominant role again, with immigration THE central issue:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/925331/Italian-election-2018-latest-sicily-lega-nord-mirgration
Eastern-Europe has ZERO intention to take in Muslims or Africans, despite all the pressure from Brussels. The Polish president of the EU Tusk has already warned that if Brussels doesn’t change its tone, the EU runs the risk of disintegration over immigration:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/892244/Donald-Tusk-eu-summit-live-updates-migrant-crisis-EMU-Brexit-deal-news
Which would be good anyway, as the desired European continental confederation with Russia can only be established over the dead body of the EU and a liquidated West and European-Russian military operations in North-America to terminate the (((vempire))) and liberate European-Americans from Washington.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 3:34 pm
Clogg stop spamming this site with your fake news! Your sources are laughable