Under a low United Nations population growth forecast, the world would still end up consuming 19.16 billion TOE, or about 223 petawatt-hours a year, up 46 percent from 13.15 TOE or around 153 petawatt-hours in 2015.
“I have not included the high forecast because it produces silly demands on Earth resources,” commented Mearns in his analysis.
It is unclear how society will cope with the energy demands of even a medium forecast in population. BP, for example, sees natural gas and crude oil running out in the 2060s.
Even the longevity of coal, which is expected to last well into the next century, could be overstated, according to production curve studies by David Rutledge, Kiyo and Eiko Tomiyasu Professor Emeritus of Engineering at the California Institute of Technology.
Rutledge told GTM he expected coal to stop playing a major role in the global energy mix within 60 years. “Many of us have felt that coal production will peak when China peaks,” he said. “It may already have happened.”
Nuclear power could step in. China is set to lean heavily on the technology, with plans to triple its nuclear generating capacity in the next two decades. Elsewhere, though, nuclear has lost its shine.
In the U.S., for example, nuclear plants are struggling to remain commercially viable despite the administration’s haphazard attempts to support the industry. In Europe, even France is backtracking on nuclear. The outlook for new generation in the U.K. remains uncertain.
Nuclear proponents point to new technologies, from small modular reactors to thorium plants, which could potentially overcome many of the disadvantages of today’s designs. But bringing these novel reactor ideas to market is not proving easy. That leaves renewable energy and efficiency.
In BP’s 2018 Energy Outlook, the oil and gas giant predicted — for the first time — that liquid fuel demand (not supply) would peak in the late 2030s. “Growth of fuels used in transport slows as the impact of rising prosperity is offset by efficiency gains,” the report states. Encouraging greater efficiency across the entire energy sector would help to mitigate unsustainable demand, but wouldn’t entirely solve the problem.
Renewables are the other lever society can pull.
Stanford University’s Professor Mark Jacobson has famously claimed the world could be 100 percent powered by wind, water and sunlight by 2050, but it is not clear how his models might scale to account for population and per capita energy growth by the end of the century.
Furthermore, Jacobson’s work remains controversial. Last year, Jacobson filed a $10 million lawsuit (recently dropped) against the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences and grid researcher Chris Clack over a paper that called Jacobson’s work “a poorly executed exploration of an interesting hypothesis.”
Concerns with 100 percent renewable models tend to focus on monetary cost and how to deal with intermittency. But an equally big challenge might be renewable energy’s energy return on investment (EROI).
This is the amount of energy gained from an energy production technology relative to the energy that must be used to get it.
A very low EROI means it is only marginally worthwhile to develop a technology, and below a given level you may not get enough surplus back to sustain society. Hydroelectric power has the highest known EROI, at 84:1, albeit with large variations depending on the site.
Wind scores a respectable 18:1 and solar comes in at 10:1. But the EROIs of intermittent renewables suffer heavily if they have to be tied to battery storage or backup systems to provide a reliable supply.
All of this may mean society will have to go through some serious readjustments this century, said Charles Hall, author of Energy and the Wealth of Nations and the founding father of the EROI concept. “What’s the future? I don’t think it’s going to be like it is now,” Hall said.
“Can we build a good structure on renewable energy? I think perhaps. But my economics co-author, Kent Klitgaard, says, ‘You can’t have capitalism,’ because capitalism requires growth. As soon as you bring that up, you open a whole new can of worms.”
This story was updated to include findings from BP’s 2018 Energy Outlook.
bobinget on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 11:58 am
Fossil fuel traders simply don’t care about anything past Q1.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 12:09 pm
Prepping is futile.
Myth: Well-prepared individuals, groups, and communities will survive our impending collapse and maintain healthy, fulfilling, and productive lives in its aftermath.
Reality: Those who survive our collapse will be those who can obtain sufficient life sustaining essentials—especially clean water and food—on a continuous basis, both during and after collapse. Those who store large quantities of these essentials and those who attempt to produce food, either individually or in communities, will be easy targets for the vast majority who have neither the foresight to store nor the skills to produce. No matter how remote or secluded your sanctuary, somebody will know about it; and they will come to call when they become desperate; and they will be well armed and devoid of compassion. You can prepare for a last stand, but you cannot prepare for post-collapse survival. Post-collapse Life Will Be Preferable to Our Industrial Lifestyle Paradigm.
Myth: Industrialization has brought nothing but misery and degradation to the human race; our quality of life (and spiritual wellbeing) will improve substantially in a post-collapse world.
Reality: The post-collapse lifestyle awaiting the few who survive will, under the best of circumstances, share many attributes with pre-Columbian America. Unfortunately, the realities associated with subsistence level existence bear little semblance to the Hollywood accounts. Those who anxiously await our post-collapse world will be disappointed, assuming they live to experience it. The fact that nobody is opting to jettison the amenities afforded by an industrialized way of life in favor of a hunter-gatherer lifestyle today should be sufficient proof that our future way of life is not something to be anticipated. Industrialism is not inherently “evil” or immoral; it is simply physically impossible going forward.
kiwichick on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 1:45 pm
non intermittant renewable sources will fill some of the shortfall …..geothermal and wave/ tidal are effectively baseload
Cloggie on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 2:55 pm
An area like Spain covered with solar panels is enough to replace all current primary energy sources on earth. The total desert area in the world is many times that of Spain, in other words the potential for clean energy is virtually limitless and only limited by the ability of the global economy to afford to produce and install new energy production capacity and corresponding storage facilities. There is no reason why the energy demand could not grow with 124% until 2100 and fully covered by renewable energy sources.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 3:32 pm
Back in 1930 the economist John Maynard Keynes predicted that growth would end within a century
https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/3097-keynes-2030
MASTERMIND on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 3:33 pm
Clogg
They already tried solar in Spain. They had the largest solar company in Europe and it went bankrupt! You stupid idiot!
MASTERMIND on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 3:34 pm
UC Davis Peer Reviewed Study: It Will Take 131 Years to Replace Oil with Alternatives (Malyshkina, 2010)
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es100730q
University of Chicago Peer Reviewed Study: predicts world economy unlikely to stop relying on fossil fuels (Covert, 2016)
https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/jep.30.1.117
Solar and Wind produced less than one percent of total world energy in 2016 – IEA WEO 2017
https://www.iea.org/publications/freepublications/publication/KeyWorld2017.pdf
Fossil Fuel Share of Global Energy since 1990 – BP 2017
https://imgur.com/k7VecMq
Renewable energy ‘simply won’t work’: Top Google engineers
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/21/renewable_energy_simply_wont_work_google_renewables_engineers/
Powering US using 100 percent renewable energy is a total fantasy
http://reason.com/blog/2017/06/21/powering-us-using-100-percent-renewable
IEA Sees No Peak Oil Demand ‘Any Time Soon’
https://www.wsj.com/articles/iea-sees-no-peak-oil-demand-any-time-soon-1488816002
Kenz300 on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 3:50 pm
Endless population growth is not sustainable.
There are limits to earths resources.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 3:52 pm
Ken
New technologies will be invented don’t be such a nervous Nellie. /s
Cloggie on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 3:57 pm
They already tried solar in Spain. They had the largest solar company in Europe and it went bankrupt! You stupid idiot!
Wind power provided the largest share at 19.1% followed by hydroelectric power at 11.1%. Solar power provided 5.2% and renewable thermal a further 2%. The total electricity supplied (demand coverage) from renewables was 37.4% of Spain’s requirements in 2015.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_Spain
pain Awards 4 Gigawatts Solar & 1 Gigawatt Wind In Renewables Auction
https://cleantechnica.com/2017/07/28/spain-awards-4-gw-solar-1-gw-wind-renewables-auction/
In 2015 they already had 37.4%
How much do you think they will have in 2020? in 2025? In 2030?
90% in 2050.
God are you a stupid leftist defaitist low-life with laughable absent ambition level. Why don’t you go to your bridge and have a good night sleep under it.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 4:01 pm
Clogg
Like I said they went bankrupt after spending billions of tax payer funds! Solar and wind are scams! And your sources are laughable.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 4:02 pm
This is how you treat someone like clogg
https://i.imgur.com/PVa60tN.gifv
MASTERMIND on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 4:03 pm
Clogg
Solar and Wind produced less than one percent of total world energy in 2016 – IEA WEO 2017
https://www.iea.org/publications/freepublications/publication/KeyWorld2017.pdf
Fossil Fuel Share of Global Energy since 1990 – BP 2017
https://imgur.com/k7VecMq
Solar and wind less than one percent after forty years and billions wasted! LOL
peakyeast on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 4:40 pm
Cloggie forgets the most important problem when suggesting installation of country sized solar plants: Humans.
For that problem there is only one true cure – the rest is just degrees of torture and habitat destruction.
Antius on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 5:58 pm
World electricity consumption is about 25,000TWh per year, equivalent to a contuous output of 2.85TW or 2850GW. Present rate of growth of solar power is 100GWp per year, which will produce an average of about 20GW of power on average at Spanish insolation levels. To produce half of all power with solar at this rate of installation, will take 142years.
Of course, we must also replace other non-electric functions with solar electric as well. This includes heating, industrial heat and transport – functions that would double global power demand if converted to electric. To meet 50% of this doubled power demand with solar, would take 284years at present installation rates.
For solar to provide a practical solution to fossil fuel depletion, we need to be building these systems at about 10 times the rate we are. How likely is that in a world where spare energy will soon be constrained by depletion? And we haven’t even started with problems of intermittent power supply – in fact no one has large scale solutions for dealing with this.
This more than anything is why I believe in the large scale expansion of nuclear power. It is nigh on impossible to attempt an energy transition once fossil fuel decline sets in unless the alternative you develop has high EROI.
Go Speed Racer on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 9:23 pm
Let’s have a great big war.
If enough people are killed, the
survivors will have resources again.
Also, my arms-supplier stock
shares will go up.
Cloggie on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 12:18 am
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/spain-renewable-energy-sources_uk_580dca6be4b0fce107d1273a
Spain Aims For 100% Renewable Energy, And Experts Think It’s Achievable
Cloggie forgets the most important problem when suggesting installation of country sized solar plants: Humans.
With my stupid 2-year-old 6 panels a 3000 euro all in I am (year-to-year) electricity self-sufficient, because I additionally invested in hyper-efficient electrical devices. Nothing Herculean about that. I’m just a little more energy aware than the rest, that’s why I am an early adopter.
Meanwhile prices for solar are dropping rapidly and I see new solar installations being installed on roofs in my neighborhood on a daily basis.
Everybody has a central heating, a car, a yearly holiday with flight and an internet connection. The economy is booming. In 10 years everybody will have solar panels, big deal.
Keep talking yourselves in the grave, like millimind does.
This is how you treat someone like clogg
https://i.imgur.com/PVa60tN.gifv
This btw is how you beat up antifa clowns like millimind and remove the trash from your country, never to be heard of again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8GVtXfATtI
Throw him over the Appalachians like the sack of potatoes that he is his into Greater Baltimore and into the loving arms of George Soros.
Cloggie on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 12:35 am
Britain may be leaving the EU (probably for 50%-ish and remain paying member of the common market), but 6 new Balkan states will become member in ca 2025. We are losing the after Sweden (“boat-country”) most political correct country and see it replaced with 6 very political correct incorrect countries. And wait until Ukraine is drawn into EU-orbit, which is very right-wing, to say the least. This admittedly doesn’t boost the GDP per capita very much, but it does boost the chances for ethnic survival of Europe, much in contrast to Anglosphere, that doesn’t know how fast it can wipe itself of the map demographically.
http://serbianmonitor.com/en/featured/41436/financial-times-six-countries-including-kosovo-as-next-eu-members/
The last valuable item on the European to-do list is of course Russia, which will give us the final upper hand over the NWO and restore Europe as the first address on this planet.
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/12/03/paris-berlin-moscow/
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 12:47 am
Clogg
It looks like Europe’s economic recovery may have passed its peak
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/eurozone-economic-growth-lead-indicators-weakening-2018-2
Ouch! Another one bites the dust. And Spain already had the largest solar company in Europe and it went bankrupt! LOL even in sunny spain it failed horribly..
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 12:51 am
CLogg
That was the dumbest video. You can’t even tell who is fighting who..They all look like a bunch of white trash going at it…lol They just titled it chasing out anti fa because that is what they want to believe.
Here is the creator of the alt right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlUxCsQMuwY
And my video is irrefutable!
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 12:54 am
Report: No progress for African-Americans on homeownership, unemployment and incarceration in 50 years
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-no-progress-african-americans-20180226-story.html
Go Speed Racer on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 2:20 am
Clogster, I’m over here in USA land of fat stupid people who eat hamburgers.
So explain me how your whole European Union is being destroyed by some Bitch named Angela Merkel.
You obviously won’t have a country anymore.
It’s being filled up with crazy lunatic
muslims and jungle bunnies.
You don’t have any normal European people
left anymore. And at this rate, I wont even
be able to buy European wine and cheese
anymore because we know those Muslim Jungle
Bunnies are wayyy tooo stupid to make wine
and cheese.
So explain it to me please Clogster.
Why are all your phucking countrymen voting this Hideous old Nag Bitch into office? Why don’t you put her into an insane asylum where she belongs?
What a horrible ugly old Bitch is that Merkle. Horrifying Bitch that hates her own country and destroyed it.
Actually we have that here, it’s called
Hillary Clinton. Ugly Crazy Wrinkled Fat
Ugly Old Lunatic Bag of Dog Crap.
Know what the Fuck we did?
We voted TRUMP into office!
To get rid of the Fat Ugly Old Lunatic
Bag of Dog Shit named Hillary Clinton.
She’s gone to the lunatic farm. spit
dribbling down her chin while they push
her down the hallway in her wheel chair.
We solved our problems, the BITCH is gone.
Bye bye dont have to deal with the BITCH
anymore she is out of power.
So why can’t you people get rid of YOUR
Fat Old Ugly Lunatic Nasty Old Bitch who
is filling up your countries with foreigners?
I have a friend who recently travelled thru
Europe. He said its so full of Muslims there
isn’t any reason to go there anymore.
Sorry about your country Clogster.
Did you build a rocketship so you can go
and live on Mars? At least there’s no
God Damned fucking Muslims there, and
No Fat Ugly Wrinkled Old Hideous Man Hating
Prune Bitch from the furnaces of Hell named
Angela Merkel.
Not Yet.
Anyway, explain it to me.
we put our bitch out of the White House
and onto the sidewalk where she belongs.
Why can’t you do the same with your old
ugly wrinkled prune Bitch Merkle.
deadly on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 2:38 am
Of course you can prepare for doom, but the difference that is going to make won’t make any difference.
All of the prepping in the world will do no good if there is a collapse of civilizations.
Not everybody is going to make it out of here alive. In fact, nobody is going to make it out of here alive.
Somewhere near 80 billion people have been born, lived and died in 3/4 time, all of those alive today are all going to die and the number of dead humans will increase while the increases in the number of living humans will all add to the increases in deaths of humans.
It’s a vicious cycle, you gotta keep moving west.
No reason to be in a rut.
In the end, everybody will be seething and foaming at the mouth.
Resistance is futile.
Antius on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 4:53 am
Meanwhile, in the real world…
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-26/mnuchins-wrong-heres-why-investors-should-be-very-worried-about-inflation
Rising oil prices are already contributing to inflation. This increases the chance of interest rate rises and in turn, recession. Or in our case, depression…
Davy on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 5:08 am
“With my stupid 2-year-old 6 panels a 3000 euro all in I am (year-to-year) electricity self-sufficient, because I additionally invested in hyper-efficient electrical devices. Nothing Herculean about that. I’m just a little more energy aware than the rest, that’s why I am an early adopter”
Sounds cheap to me. Are you just dumping a load on the grid? I just spent $15K on a 6 panel 48volt system with inverter and transfer switches. I am on off grid as necessary. Great system but how the hell can a normal person afford that with cheap electricity as the option? I did it because I am a prepper and I live what I preach. All my devices are efficient and I heat with wood, the water too. I also practice demand management strategies.
“Throw him over the Appalachians like the sack of potatoes that he is his into Greater Baltimore and into the loving arms of George Soros.”
Only someone lost in the digital fantasy world of the web talks like that. You don’t have a clue about the reality on the ground in the US, fool.
Davy on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 5:09 am
“The last valuable item on the European to-do list is of course Russia, which will give us the final upper hand over the NWO and restore Europe as the first address on this planet.”
yawn
Davy on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 5:32 am
The financial system is bulging and leaking yet, I am seeing a situation that can’t be compared to earlier times on some levels. We have central management now and an imperfect one at that, although having regional powers with central banks in competitive cooperation has some benefits. No one is free to be too stupid. I have been watching this financial game now for years and it has amazed me how well they have held it together. I think part of what is going on is there is nowhere to go. Tell me where money can go these days to find safety when risk has been dispersed throughout the system? Too big to fail is everywhere. The system is no longer honest either. Recessions are honest. The rule of law is honest. Both of these conditions are being repressed. Recessions are good because they clean the system of bad debt. Poor investments are found and eliminated. Today because of moral hazard the in group is protected. The unintended consequence of this is wealth transfer but there is also tremendous growth. Wealth transfer is also gutting the foundation and creating a house of cards. Not all this growth is good so can we say a 3%-5% average global growth is real? I don’t think so because there is too much Ponzi activities. Ponzi activities last as long as the players play. When there is a gun to the players head the game can go on a long time. Yet, when the game becomes Russian roulette, as it surely will, then the game changes because dead bodied pile up.
We are a linear human arrangement within a circular planetary system. Our linear system is destroying the planet slowly but it is killing ourselves even quicker. I see no alternative. This is a catch 22 trap that all civilizations have gotten themselves into and ours is even more complicated. All I am seeing as a solution of sorts is a strategy of survival on a lifeboats. Lifeboats that will not be rescued. There are many things we can do to lengthen our collective lifespan but I don’t see a future. I have seen the numbers on fossil fuels and renewables. I see population numbers. I constantly read about the climate and planetary decline. I am a student of system thinking and it does not add up. This is why I am a doomer and prepper but one who has optimism for a few more years. I am no longer in the 3-5 year hard collapse mode. I am now in the 10-15 year collapse process. It can collapse at any time but I am defining the upper limits. This collapse process is difficult to define as all decaying systems are.
Davy on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 5:44 am
Hey, neder, you got Baltimore’s too. We don’t have no go zones in the US like in Europe where you tippee toe around. Our police just shoot to kill. How long before you adopt such a policy? I am not saying shooting to kill is right or wrong what I am saying is quit throwing rocks in your fantasy glass house.
“Merkel Finally Acknowledges German “No-Go” Zones, Vows To Eliminate”
https://tinyurl.com/ybqe26uu
“No Go Zones Following the dramatic influx of primarily North African migrants, several German publications have documented the growing problem of “no-go” zones – areas in which it is unsafe for non-Muslim citizens to travel. The newspaper, Bild, and the newsmagazine, Focus, among others, have identified (here, here and here) more than 40 “problem areas” (Problemviertel) across Germany. These are areas where large concentrations of migrants, high levels of unemployment and chronic welfare dependency, combined with urban decay, have become incubators for anarchy. In an article entitled “Ghetto Report Germany,” Bild describes these areas as “burgeoning ghettos, parallel societies and no-go areas.” They include: Berlin-Neukölln, Bremerhaven-Lehe/Bremen-Huchting, Cologne-Chorweiler, Dortmund-Nordstadt, Duisburg-Marxloh, Essen-Altenessen, Hamburg-Eidelstedt, Kaiserslautern-Asternweg, Mannheim-Neckarstadt West and Pforzheim-Oststadt.”
“In Berlin or in the north of Duisburg there are neighborhoods where colleagues hardly dare to stop a car — because they know that they’ll be surrounded by 40 or 50 men.” These attacks amount to a “deliberate challenge to the authority of the state — attacks in which the perpetrators are expressing their contempt for our society,” said Rainer Wendt, President of the German Police Union.”
Antius on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 6:54 am
The energy intensity of GDP may stand for improvement in many areas. However, electricity intensity of GDP has far less scope for improvement. In the past, dramatic reduction in the energy intensity of GDP have been achieved by (1) Switching from less efficient to more efficient fuels (i.e. from coal to electricity and natural gas); (2) Outsourcing energy intensive industry to nations with cheap, coal based energy supply (i.e. China and India).
It is very difficult to use less electricity to do the same job – it usually means compromising on the service received. This is because electricity is a very efficient means of delivering mechanical work – close to 100% efficient in an AC induction motor. A modern country cannot enjoy high living standards with low electricity use.
We can substitute electricity for other end use energy sources. This may have the effect of reducing total energy consumption, because electricity is almost always more efficient.
• To replace a boiler with a ground source heat pump to produce low quality heat (30-100C), roughly one unit of electric power will replace 3 units of natural gas or four units of oil.
• To replace fossil fuels in the production of high quality heat, one unit of electricity will replace 1.2 units of natural gas.
• To replace petroleum in vehicle propulsion, assuming we can draw power directly from the grid, one unit of electric power will replace roughly 4 units of petroleum.
In most developed countries, switching to 100% renewable energy sources (in most cases a 100% electricity economy) will roughly double the electricity demand above the baseline. Not all of this electric power necessarily has to be baseload dispatchable power – heat loads and some transport loads can absorb intermittent power. But managing that process adds substantial complexity to the electricity grid.
As noted by Mastermind and calculated by myself earlier, at present rates of installation it will take something like a century for renewable energy to replace fossil fuels at even present rates of use of energy services. To achieve this on a timescale that mitigates the decline of fossil fuels will require a much greater investment (and energy investment) in renewable energy infrastructure than we are seeing right now. But we are trying to divert more energy into manufacture of this infrastructure at the very same time as fossil fuel energy yields (and therefore net energy yield) is declining. This makes a renewable energy transition doubly difficult to achieve.
This is the chief reason why I support a nuclear energy transition over a renewable energy transition. A mass produced fast reactor system with short build times has a realistic chance of providing an affordable alternative to fossil fuels even as net energy declines, because whole system EROI can be so much higher.
TheNationalist on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 8:36 am
Mastermind is correct on the timescales it seems. Many appear to be kidding themselves on the speed we can cut our emissions.
Might as well go burn another sofa…
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 8:48 am
Nationalist
https://imgur.com/a/FAX3k
Antius on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 9:00 am
Why increases in electrical energy efficiency will be slow and incremental and cannot be counted on to deliver reductions in energy use per unit GDP. For those with access to science direct:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301421508007453
For those without:
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2344586
From Figure 1 in the report: Between 1971 and 2007, total electricity more than doubled in IEA (OECD) countries, but the amount of electricity per unit GDP was virtually flat in that time, with only a weak rate of decline starting in the early 1990s. This likely has much to do with outsourcing high energy intensity industry to China. This was about the same time that debt levels started increasing in OECD countries.
We can achieve a one-time increase in energy efficiency by shifting energy consumption away from direct use fossil fuel in heat and mobility to nuclear or renewable electricity. Once this is accomplished, further improvements will be very slow and will diminish with time. GDP per capita of a nation will be directly proportional to electricity use per capita, which will in turn, be dependent on the cost of that electricity. Prosperity depends upon cheap, high quality electricity.
Duncan Idaho on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 9:06 am
“It’s going to go up this year though: Stella, Flyndre, Callater, Shaw, Kraken, Cayley, Schiehallion,
Kraken North, Arundel, Loyal, Edradour, Glenlivet,Cawdor, Barra, Harris, Catcher, Varadero, Burgman, Clair Ridge, Mariner, Harrier – all fields starting up this year or last, I think about 300 kbpd new, but this year will be the last peak. The FIDs due for this year are pretty small and more gas than oil, plus Penguins which is a redevelopment is the biggest, and at some point soon Buzzard and Golden Eagle are going to crash”
-George
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 9:12 am
Antius
Its not all because of outsourcing to china..Our exports have boomed over the last two decades. Its because they are bullshitting the GDP numbers…And the little bits of growth that are created is going to the top ten percent only.
Antius on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 9:32 am
“Its not all because of outsourcing to china..Our exports have boomed over the last two decades. Its because they are bullshitting the GDP numbers…And the little bits of growth that are created is going to the top ten percent only”
You may very well be correct. In the US in particular, successive administrations have fiddled with the definition of inflation, to the extent that real US GDP may now be lower than official figures suggest. The Clinton administrations were the worst offenders and coincidentally, the early 1990s are when the anomalies start appearing. US electricity intensity appears to have been declining, whilst that of other OECD countries has remained the same or even increased. Then again, US per capita electricity usage is roughly double that of European countries, but GDP per capita is not. So it may be that the US was particularly inefficient until the early 90s and convergence with other countries has occurred since then.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 9:46 am
Antius
Read this it cites several scholarly papers that explains it.
Inside the new economic science of capitalism’s slow-burn energy collapse (Ahmed, 2017)
https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/the-new-economic-science-of-capitalisms-slow-burn-energy-collapse-d07344fab6be
bobinget on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 11:12 am
Does anyone here understand what this will mean?
“Platts reported that the Trump administration will not certify the Iran nuclear deal, U.S. Vice President Mike Pence said Thursday, increasing the likelihood of re-imposition of U.S. sanctions on international sales of Iranian crude “The United States will no longer tolerate Iran’s destabilizing activities across the region, and this country will no longer certify the disastrous Iran nuclear deal,” Pence said during a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference. Iran produced 3.83 million b/d of crude in January, according to the latest S&P Global Platts OPEC survey, up about 1 million b/d from just before the nuclear deal went into force in January 2016.” Platts
IMO,
Not certifying this six nation nuclear agreement
further isolates US from ALL the other nations signed on.
USD (as world reserve currency) will, almost certainly be replaced by a basket of currencies led by yuan. Almost overnight.
Canada may become America’s only dollar crude oil provider.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-oil-futures/china-plans-to-launch-crude-oil-futures-on-march-26-securities-regulator-idUSKBN1FT0P2
Sanctioned Iran, Venezuela, will trade exclusively
on Asian markets.
Just to give YOU a taste of scale of Chinese imports;
http://www.scmp.com/business/companies/article/2134794/chinas-2018-crude-oil-import-rise-80-cent-can-it-close-its-us
China needs cheap oil. ONLY the US can provide that oil, for now.
Denying Iran trade w/Western nations forces them
to choose to trade in yuan.
Don’t have a heart attack when we begin exporting SPR to China. Call President Rex Tillerson instead.
kanon on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 11:21 am
The problem with these scenarios of continuation of the status quo is they are too narrowly focused. By 2100 we will be experiencing the inundation of major coastal cities, massive migrations, and other effects of climate change. sea levels by 2100
And according to MM’s citation, we will have economic and financial upheaval as well. From capitalisms-slow-burn-energy-collapse:
Bonauiti thus concludes that “advanced capitalist societies (the US, Europe and Japan) have entered a phase of declining marginal returns or involuntary degrowth in many key sectors, with possible major detrimental effects on the system’s capacity to maintain its present institutional framework.”
In other words, the global economic system has entered a fundamentally new era, representing a biophysical phase-shift into an energetically constrained landscape.
. . . .
We cannot be sure what this unprecedented state of affairs will herald for the market prices of oil, gas and coal, which are unlikely to follow the conventional supply and demand dynamics we were used to in the 20th century.
But what we can know for sure from the new science is that the era of unlimited economic growth — the defining feature of neoliberal finance capitalism as we know it — is well and truly over.
kanon on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 11:37 am
bobinget: Does anyone here understand what this will mean?
If Iran and China are able to trade using yuan instead of dollars the force of the dollar as world reserve currency will be weakened, perhaps significantly. The dramatic possibilities are a huge drop in the value of the dollar, a spike in domestic inflation, and a chain of events leading to a global power realignment. We could also see hysterical calls for war from the Washington neo-lib-con factions. It could be a real crisis for the U.S. ruling class and the empire.
The U.S. will have to compete for oil imports more so than today, so ideas of sanctions against Iran, Venezuela, and Iran will go out the window.
On the other hand, since it appears there is an excess in fossil fuel production capacity, the effect could be merely an escalation in rhetoric and propaganda.
If something good were to come of it, we in the U.S. could embark on a major upgrade of public transportation and railroads, break the motor vehicle transportation monopoly, and reduce fossil fuel use by over 50%.
Hello on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 11:59 am
>>> If something good were to come of it
Loosing the reserve currency status will enable the US to start manufacturing and exporting again. With the most productive food industry AND the possibility of the most productive manufacturing industry AND with abundant domestic oil sources that doesn’t look good for europe.
Watch out Europe, better hope this doesn’t happen.
Cloggie on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 12:19 pm
Clogg
It looks like Europe’s economic recovery may have passed its peak
Dream on millimind, we’re in the middle of the European Golden Decade (that will end with WW3):
http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/09/news/economy/europe-economy-upswing/index.html
Europe’s economy is firing on all cylinders. Europe is charging ahead.
Economic confidence across the 19 countries that use the euro currency is at its highest in more than 17 years, according to a survey published by the European Commission on Monday. Other surveys indicate the same: Europeans are feeling great about the economy.
“Confidence levels surged in all surveyed sectors and industrial confidence reached the highest level since the survey start in 1985,” said Carsten Hesse, European economist at Berenberg.
Europe is preparing itself to take over from the United States and take those European-Americans (and Russians) with us who, on second thoughts, prefer to be a European rather than a third worlder.
https://www.rt.com/news/387313-us-losing-leadership-eu-mogherini/
Olympic golden medal table:
Continental Europe – 67
Anglosphere – 21
#SignOfTheTimes
With the most productive food industry AND the possibility of the most productive manufacturing industry AND with abundant domestic oil sources that doesn’t look good for europe.
You do realize that in the US under 20% only 46% are white?
And what is this nonsense that the US has “the most productive food industry?” Western Europe is far more productive:
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-american-food-giant-the-largest-exporter-of-food-in-the-world.html
Cloggie on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 12:26 pm
The United States will no longer tolerate Iran’s destabilizing activities across the region, and this country will no longer certify the disastrous Iran nuclear deal
There is only one country that really destabilized the ME and we all know who that is.
#Iraq
#Syria
#Libya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZAvzGLEd4w
Iran merely jumped into the vacuum created by the neocohns, who are totally losing it: first the ME, the US empire next and after that the US itself.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 12:36 pm
Clogg
You don’t judge an economy on its currency value…You judge it on its economic growth..Which is in a depression. You are always so easy fooled by big media fake news.
OECD Economic Growth GDP Per Capita 1970-2015 (0.5%)
https://imgur.com/a/HXBkr#Bv4I4AF
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 12:37 pm
Clogg
Your CNN article is hilarious! Europe is doing great says some economist. No need to cite any data to support! Just take his word for it! LOL
Cloggie on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 12:40 pm
Hey, neder, you got Baltimore’s too. We don’t have no go zones in the US like in Europe where you tippee toe around. Our police just shoot to kill. How long before you adopt such a policy? I am not saying shooting to kill is right or wrong what I am saying is quit throwing rocks in your fantasy glass house.
I totally agree with you that the West sucks and needs to be abolished to pave the way for something new.
#TheNorth
http://tinyurl.com/y8ydx6a9
No-go areas do not exist in the US!? ROFL:
https://2zeobl3ojpj43evvq11p5yodq7e-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/detroit-enter-at-your-own-risk.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG78fq2FoSc
I agree we have shitty zones in Western Europe as well: Malmo in feministan Sweden, Duisburg/Frankfurt/Berlin in Germany, parts of Paris, Bradford in the UK, but it is not yet near what the US has to offer, for the simple reason that Europe is 20 years or so “behind” the US in the demographic shift, a development that can only be stopped and reversed with a giant shock and crisis and subsequent imposition of a radical new value system, meaning the systemic abolishment of all things Christian and accepting huge losses of territory.
#WW3
#RomanValues
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 12:53 pm
Hey CLogg
What about the Jews IQ vs White peoples? Who is higher you tell me? LOL
Davy on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 1:01 pm
Bob, maybe you can understand this
“Beijing’s Yuan Ambitions Look Dashed”
https://tinyurl.com/y7axps6b
“Two years on and central banks aren’t buying the notion. Although China’s currency has a weight of more than 10 percent in the SDR basket, which gives equal importance to a country’s trade status and balance-sheet metrics, just 1.1 percent of the world’s forex reserves were held in yuan versus 63 percent in dollars as of the third quarter.”
“Part of the explanation is liquidity. According to the Bank of International Settlements, in 2016, the yuan constituted only 4 percent of the world’s currency trades. The dollar, through pairs with the euro and the yen, accounted for 88 percent of transactions.”
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 1:07 pm
The world is not going to use China’s currency. China’s manipulates their currency to lower its value to make their exports more competitive. People who claim this are total fucking idiots.
Cloggie on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 1:42 pm
Hey CLogg
What about the Jews IQ vs White peoples? Who is higher you tell me? LOL
Millimind/apneaman, the average IQ of your group may be higher than that of whites, but Jews are only a small group so the number of smart white people is much larger than that of the Jews. We can miss you like the plague. The vast majority of artists, scientist and engineers are white, not Jewish. We don’t need you and your Marx, Einstein and Sigmund Fraud for anything. The only real contribution of Jews to physics was in the realm of nuclear weapons, exactly fitting to the character of your cruel power-hungry demographic.
For Europeans you are no match, we have always kicked your asses, but naive Americans, who you temporarily got under control, at an immense damage to European civilization, is a different story. But soon the opportunity will arise to settle some scores. For that we need a little chaos in the US first, so we can sneak in.
#110
https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 2:28 pm
Clogg
Old whitey is going extinct! The ladies like that big African cock better! And white people can’t dance or sing! LOL too busy imbreading their cousins!