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Yes, American Democracy (Really) Is Dying
What Democracy Needs to Be Nourished With, and How America Didn’t Do It
One of the things I find myself thinking a lot about these days is why American democracy’s dying. “It’s not dead yet! It’s still alive!”, you cry. You’re right. Yet if it’s not dead, it’s not exactly in good health, either. It’s in something like intensive care, surrounded by frantic doctors and nurses — running out of options. Crash cart, anyone? American democracy is being kept alive only with increasingly desperate and strained last resorts. And that won’t last forever.
So how did America get here? The lesson — and it’s for everyone, not just American — I think is both simple and hard, nuanced and straightforward, difficult and unforgiving. Democracy is something like a tree, as a wise person once said. Like a tree, it needs nourishment. And the three things that nourish democracy are reason, sanity, and decency.
But do we remember that? And yet without those — without a society really tangibly investing in those three things — what chance does a democracy have to endure? Not a very good one, my friends. Bang! American implosion. (Think about the Prez — and all his flunkies — for a moment. Aren’t they the living personifications of the precise opposites of reason, sanity, and decency? Maybe you see my point.)
Let me begin with the first one, reason. You’ve often heard the idea that “a democracy needs educated people.” It’s true. Why? To make reasoned, considered choices. And yet in America, it seems, reason has gone out the window. Large numbers of Americans seem incapable of even elementary forms of reasoning anymore. No, I’m not kidding. There are the small, bizarre, yet powerfully meaningful examples: anti-vaxxers, truthers, conspiracy theorists, flat-earthers, alt-righters, climate change denialists. Ancient Aliens on TV every night doesn’t help.
But larger forms of unreason have come to dominate American life. It’s often observed by baffled observers that “Americans vote against their own interests” — and that’s precisely one definition of unreason, irrationality. Think about the Trump voter who ended up losing that factory job…that was his last chance for a decent life…thanks to Trump’s tariffs…but still is unwavering in his support of Trump. Think about a middle class that’s voted, bewilderingly, against its own healthcare, retirement, and childcare, forever. Think about the person who doesn’t vaccinate their own kids — or “believe” in climate change. Unreason upon unreason characterizes American life — and that tells us that Americans don’t seem to know how to reason anymore.
Let me put that more sharply. Americans — enough of them — can’t seem to separate what’s good for them, versus what’s good for the coterie of predatory capitalists, plutocrats, authoritarians, and kleptocrats that have risen to power. They appear to have literally no idea what their interests even really are anymore (hello, don’t you want healthcare, dummy? Don’t you want your kids to go to college?) But that’s exactly how the bad guys rose to power. And that suggests a deep, weird, kind of psychological identification at work — as if Americans think they are the people who are preying on them (I’ll come back to that shortly.)
Why don’t Americans know how to reason anymore? To think well and clearly? Well, it’s hardly a mystery. They’re bombarded by disinformation, misinformation, and propaganda every day. And I don’t mean Trump’s tweets. I mean cable news. I mean a steady diet of reality TV. I mean endless movies about comic book superheroes — instead of anything, say, about what history might teach us about societies collapsing. I mean Facebook and Twitter and so on.
American culture has degenerated into something even the Romans would probably find grotesque. They had one Caligula — but American culture tells every American to care about nothing, and I mean nothing, but artifice and superficiality: money, sex, fame, and status. Anything else? What are you, weak? A dummy? Why bother thinking? What is there to think about anyways — we know the point of life, and it’s what capitalism says it is! But when your mind is so preoccupied with utterly superficial, nonsensical, meaningless things that they consume your every waking and sleeping moment — what room is there left for reason, for thought, for meaning? When you’re surrounded by all the above, junk culture, when tempting, seductive, narcissistic bullshit is being machine-gunned into your cortex every nanosecond 24/7, with laser precision — what chance do you really have to be a thinking person?
That brings me to my second form of nourishment that democracy needs: sanity. A democracy can’t endure if the people in it aren’t mentally healthy anymore. Sanity takes us past reason or rationality. It means that if everyone’s depressed, anxious, afraid, traumatized — or at least if enough people are — democracy isn’t going to make it. Why not?
People who feel deeply insecure psychologically will seek safety, over and over again, in more and more extreme and self-destructive ways, instead of ever addressing their insecurities and their deeper causes. I mean “insecurity” in the true way: not just “I don’t have enough Instagram followers!”, but “how will I make ends meet? How will I give my kids a decent life? Who’ll pay for their healthcare? How will I ever retire? Lord, what happens if I get sick?”
I mean true insecurity, a lack of stability, meaning, purpose, place, worth. Insecurity of the kind that now characterizes American life. Profound, deep, enduring psychological insecurity carries with it pain and distress so sharp that it traumatizes. Why don’t we ever talk about that? If you’re constantly thinking about death — which is what all the above is — you, my friend, are traumatized, whether you know it or not. And most Americans don’t, but they are.
Now, you can see the trend of mounting insecurity at work in American life for decades. I don’t feel good about myself! That’s because you’re not pretty enough, handsome enough, thin enough, rich enough, famous enough. You’re nobody. In the not-so-distant past, American insecurity — and American life was always insecure — was met with status competition, trying to outdo the next person with toys and acquisitions and prizes. But then already insecure life took a turn for the worse. The middle class imploded. Upward mobility vanished. The future fell apart. Americans couldn’t afford the very things they once sought as an answer to their insecurities anymore. What was left? What could they turn to instead? What do you do when you can’t afford the only medicine that was around for your psychological pain and distress?
Americans turned to what desperate people always turn to: a strongman. It happened in Athens, it happened in Rome, it happened in Weimar Germany turning into Nazi Germany. And it happened in America, too. Americans, traumatized by overwhelming, omnipresent insecurity, with no answer, no solution, unable to even afford the cars and homes and possessions they’d self-medicated insecurity away with once, only had one choice left: to turn to their very own demagogue, tyrant, strongman: Trump. The one who promised them safety again — even if it was through violence. Even if it was through hate. Even if it was through, in the end, the end of democracy.
It was obvious from day one that Trump wasn’t worthy of being a decent person’s garbageman, let alone a President. “Grab em by the pussy!” And yet the media fell for “but her emails!” By this point, 2015 or so, a very large number of Americans were not quite sane anymore. They had literally been traumatized into losing their minds. They couldn’t think straight anymore — they would allow anything, as long as they felt safe again, like they mattered again. They were willing to be harmed, they were willing to see their country torn apart, to let their democracy crumble — if it meant having the basic psychological security every person needs to go on functioning.
Please understand. I don’t mean that in an insulting way. Everyone needs those feelings to function — feelings of safety, feelings of mattering, feelings of counting. If you don’t have them, my friends, you’ll do anything to get them. They are the most basic motivators we have as human beings — yes, really — we’ll go without food and water for them, even, if we must. So when I say “many Americans weren’t sane by this point.” But I mean it in an empathetic way — not a judgmental one. And I mean it in a technical one, too. To be sane is to have overcome one’s traumas, not to be motivated solely by fear, not to only be able to express rage, anger, scorn. To be sane, in the ultimate analysis, is to be able to love. But by now, many Americans were only capable of anger, fury, and spite. Their insecurities had overwhelmed. Their traumas had left them broken. The only solution possible — short of a national mental healthcare intervention — was a demagogue.
Let me sharpen that, because I know it’s not the kind of idea you’re used to hearing. You’re not used to hearing it because in America, one of the central ideas is that we should all suck it up. We should hide our pain. We should pretend we are infinitely strong. We should always put on a brave face. But it doesn’t work when everyone is being traumatized at the same time. Then someone has to stop the cycle and say: “Hey! We’re all being hurt. This has to end!” But in America, nobody did. A tyrant, a demagogue, did what such figures always do: they turned a wounded nations’ profound and very real insecurities into rage, hate, and spite of lesser beings, subhumans, and thus made them feel powerful, strong, even “real”, again.
Do you see a little bit by what I mean when I say democracy needs to be nourished by sanity? If Americans had cared about each others’ psychological wounds — if they’d turned to one another and said: “we’re all being hurt by predatory systems and institutions, and yet we’re all asked to be part of them too — this has to change!” — then maybe enough people wouldn’t have been so psychically fragile as to be such easy prey for the world’s dumbest demagogue. But they were — and that Americans fell for Donald Trump, of all people, tells us just how badly psychologically shattered they must have been. You must be genuinely and totally broken inside by your insecurities if you believe what a Donald Trump is selling you.
And that brings me to the third form of nourishment democracy needs: decency. Decency in America had been fraying for many, many decades by the point Donald and his comedy crew bumbling fascist-authoritarians of arrived. In the 80s, it was made legal to offer “jobs” with no benefits or protections. In the 90s, it was made legal to “raid” pension funds — in plain English, to steal people’s life savings. In the 2000s, banks got the biggest bailout in history — while the middle class, stuck with the bill, imploded. Decency? Do you see it anywhere in the above? I don’t. America’s been on a downward spiral of moral degeneration for decade now — decency imploded from the top down, one scandal, one billionaire, one lie, at a time.
As decency evaporated from the top down in America, so did any norms, expectations, or ideals left for average people to cling to about it. Sure, you might have tried to be a good person — and everyone you know, too. But on a social scale, what happened in America was more like this. If those banks and hedge funds get away with being predatory — why shouldn’t I? If the super rich became the ultra rich by being predatory — why shouldn’t I? If only the strong survive, and “strong” means amoral, cunning, ruthless, selfish, greedy to the point of absurdity — while the weak perish — then why would I want to be anything but one of the strong?
American attitudes changed. In the 60s and 70s, America was a pretty progressive place. Civil rights happened. Wars were protested. Equality for woman and minorities became partial realities. But from the 80s, through the 90s, well into the 2000s, decency imploded. By the 2010s, the average American — feeling hopeless, powerless, and traumatized, remember — was at the end of his or her rope. Even if he or she wanted to be a good person — what was the point? All it did was leave you broke, alone, and ruined. Following the rules was for suckers. The predators always won. Bang! Implosion.
That attitude — if the predators always win, why not be a predator — is the fundamental shift in mindset, in emotions, in thinking, that always accompanies fascist-authoritarian collapses. America’s was no different. Let me put that more simply.
A democracy can hardly endure when enough people say to themselves, in scorn, in disgust, in rage, in fury, “The predators always win! The strong survive, and the weak perish! I’m sick of being a loser, a nobody! But what can I do? Ah — I know — I must become a predator, too. I must be one of the strong — the ones who are willing to hurt and harm and do violence. Then I might be someone! I might be worth something!”
That is exactly what happened in America. The wave of Trumpism is stark evidence of how American attitudes shifted in response to a fatally broken economy, a downwardly mobile society, and a culture of individualist materialism. All these left people severely wounded psychically. Unable to think — even if they still knew how, reared on a diet of lowest-common-denominator trash TV and junk culture. And they offered no salves for people’s pain — they only rubbed their distress and trauma in their very own faces. What was the inevitable outcome going to be? Wham! The descent into the abyss of demagoguery, as democracy died.
American collapse holds many lessons. But to my mind one of the most crucial is this. Democracy is a living, breathing thing — and all living things needs nourishment. Just like a tree, democracy must be watered, if it is to stand, grow, endure, reach for the sky. What waters democracy? Decency, reason, sanity. But these things do not come easy, they don’t come cheap, they don’t happen by themselves. A society must invest in them.
In concrete, tangible ways. With good education. With good culture. With mental healthcare. With laws and rules and codes, free and fair, to prevent real and lasting harm. With institutions which respect people as beings of inherent worth. By keeping a firm lid on inequality and injustice — so the attitude of predation doesn’t prevail. In many, many ways is the tree democracy watered with decency, reason, and sanity.
But America didn’t water its democracy. It didn’t invest in reason, sanity, and decency. It didn’t, for example, give everyone a free world-class college education, build better schools, make sure everyone had mental healthcare (let alone any healthcare), treat its own people with respect and dignity, build public media instead of Faux News, and so on. America’s sanity, reason, and decency dwindled — until today, when the world looks on, staggered, laughing, wondering: do they exist at all anymore? And thus it let the waters that should have nourished democracy become something like a billionaire’s fountain — pointless, useless, a decoration that signals who won, and who lost…a futile game. The tree of democracy withered. It shrank. It dried up in the desert sun.
Does it have life left in it yet? Perhaps, perhaps. But to resuscitate it, my friends, let us remember the lesson. Democracy is nourished by reason, sanity, and decency. And if we are to renew American democracy, then it’s those things we must invest in — like we’ve never invested before. And that, my friends, simply means giving them to one another.
Umair
May 1 2019
133 Comments on "Yes, American Democracy (Really) Is Dying"
Davy on Thu, 2nd May 2019 5:39 am
“Ecosocialists debate the Green New Deal (continued)”
“Continuing our discussion on the strengths and weaknesses of the Green New Deal proposal, and how the left should respond.”
https://tinyurl.com/y4lwpuo9 climate and capitalism
“Citing Vaclav Smil, Bernes states that replacing current US energy consumption with renewables would require at least 25-50 percent of the US landmass being devoted to solar, wind, and biofuels. Considering the encroachments on land by ranchers, farmers, timber companies, home developers, et al, it appears that capitalist growth—even made kosher by renewables—will hit a brick wall before long. At the heart of the Green New Deal, there is a Sisyphean contradiction: “The problem is that growth and emissions are, by almost every measure, profoundly correlated. The Green New Deal thus risks becoming a sort of Sisyphean reform, rolling the rock of emissions reductions up the hill each day only to have a growing, energy-hungry economy knock it back down to the bottom each night.”
“Without using the term “de-growth”, Bernes’s conclusion certainly is consistent with what Jason Hickel and others have written. I find it to be eminently reasonable: “We cannot keep things the same and change everything. We need a revolution, a break with capital and its killing compulsions, though what that looks like in the twenty-first century is very much an open question. A revolution that had as its aim the flourishing of all human life would certainly mean immediate decarbonization, a rapid decrease in energy use for those in the industrialized global north, no more cement, very little steel, almost no air travel, walkable human settlements, passive heating and cooling, a total transformation of agriculture, and a diminishment of animal pasture by an order of magnitude at least.”
“In the DSA magazine for Winter 2019, Huber’s article “Ecosocialism: Dystopian and Scientific” took aim at the “de-growth” current within the ecosocialist movement that he described as a dire threat “to scare us into action.” “Our dystopian future is seen as a product of industrial civilization. For many ecosocialists or left green thinkers, the science is so dire the only option is a wholesale rejection of industrialism This, I would argue, leads to some fanciful (even utopian) ideas of what comes next. Degrowth theorists imagine a ‘decentralized’ future society, ‘where resources were managed by bio-region—a participatory, low-tech, low-consumption economy, where everyone has to do some farming…’ “Richard Smith argues for a socialist program of ‘managed deindustrialization’ without fully explaining what that would actually mean. Last year in the New Left Review, Troy Vettese argued for austerity (or what he called ‘egalitarian eco-austerity’): the program includes energy rationing, compulsory veganism and turning over half the planet to wild nature (a proposal he takes from reactionary sociobiologist, E.O. Wilson).”
Davy on Thu, 2nd May 2019 5:39 am
I have been following this Red/Green movement as a lightning rod for my REAL GREEN platform. I am seeing the Red Greens run into inconsistencies with their Socialist calls to action. They are honest with the science but dishonest with the results. Basically my Real Green position is Eco honesty. We can’t reform what we have and save the planet but we can do deep adaptations to mitigate the worst. The fake green of the Red Green movement is a distraction from focused efforts. The Red Greens will sacrifice all for an idea and in the end do more damage than good in my opinion. The only way forward is managed decline and it appears the only managed decline can be properly applied locally and in small groups. It means a hybridization of old and new technology. It also means triage and relinquishment of assets and lifestyles. It means collapsing in place in localism and thereby beating the rush.
The beauty of my REAL GREEN platform is it is an “add-on” to your existing political and spiritual positions. I say “MY” but really it is many ideas from very smart people I have gathered together in my version of meaning. I am not telling you to change what gives you meaning. I could give recommendations because I have my own but that does not mean they will adapt to yours. I am telling you to add-on REAL GREEN to your existing way of life. Real Green calls for relative sacrifice that jettisons existential guilt as well as the blame game. These emotions and personality tendencies just cloud the focus needed. This call is not to say guilt and blame are not justified it is saying at this point they are fruitless uses of your energy.
The focus needs to be on negotiating the unsustainable with technics that make you more resilient and sustainability. This is only about “more or less” not “is”. Relative sacrifice is the key because it “fits” you into the status quo as you attempt to leave it. You are stuck with family, friends and community. You cannot change them and you cannot leave them without dramatic efforts in many cases. Often drastic actions have negative outcomes. Some of the young and the lucky ones can make dramatic change and should. They should because they can and the goal is ultimately meaning. The status quo is meaningless so it should be left. Science is telling us what is wrong. Honest Real Green science says we are trapped. Relative sacrifice says live your status quo life but with an ulterior motive that is Real Green of leaving it.
The ulterior motive is meaning. The basics of intelligent human activity is meaning. Our existential predicament of the duality of the ego drives a quest for meaning. Many cannot attain this level and those who are within your group need to be supported with relative sacrifice. Only 10% or less of the population is awakened to real meaning with many being followers, not smart enough, and or psychopathic narcissists. If you are smart and awakened then you do not feel superior or you are not Real Green. The reason being ultimately Real Green is planetary meaning not your meaning. This means if you are awakened and ready for action you will have to do things that go against Real Green meaning because of relative sacrifice. You have no choice but to be less than you could be because of your significant others or your compromised local. A few can bug out and find remarkable meaning. Those who can’t this means tiny steps with sacrifice.
If you are going to lower your foot print then Real Green calls for you to sacrifice with less affluence. The sacrifice also is with not lowering your footprint because of your family, friends, and community and this time the sacrifice is Real Green meaning. You will engage in activity that makes you feel bad because it is meaningless. You will feel like you are going against your Real Green values. This is where you reflect on relative sacrifice to jettison guilt and avoid the blame game. Ultimately Real Green is about planetary meaning found locally and with significant others. Many of the significant others and your local will not be Real Green. It then becomes your meaning to make meaningless a little more Real Green.
Davy on Thu, 2nd May 2019 5:40 am
Hey JuanPee, identity theft the above you pussy. LOL
Hello on Thu, 2nd May 2019 6:39 am
>>> Americans — enough of them — can’t seem to separate what’s good for them
and you, the author, of course know exactly what is good and bad for americans. Right?
>>>> “a democracy needs educated people.” It’s true.
It’s false. A democracy should decide to the benefit of the majority. Has nothing to do with level of education. If the majority of the people decide they need a ham sandwich to be happy, they will vote for the ham sandwich, even if the ‘educated elite’ thinks absolutely positively that the right choice would be a salami sandwich.
humvee on Thu, 2nd May 2019 6:39 am
When you have 2 shitty choices, you pick the less shitty…Trump.
DerHundistLos on Thu, 2nd May 2019 8:12 am
A letter to King Kong from Ann Darrow:
“Dear King Kong,
For more than half a century, you have been the most dominant figure in my public life. To speak of me is to think of you. To speak to me is often a prelude to questions about you. Sometimes I am asked whether I get tired of hearing so much about you or being asked so many questions. I say, that’s impossible. Never before or since has there existed a more misunderstood public figure. It saddens my heart to admit that the time the film was made, animal cruelty and torture were not uncommon. Conditions have improved a little, but there is so much more that needs to be done. Now that I have lived 96 years, I still do not understand how cruelty and greed continue to have such a stranglehold on our species.
I could go on to say that I have great respect for you, but that would be hard for people to understand considering most think you meant to do me harm; however, I always knew that you never meant to do me harm. I admire you because you made just one film and that became famous, whereas I made 70 or 80 and only my film with you became famous.
Another reason I respect you is that although we never talked about it, I felt we had a tacit understanding that there are some very beautiful moments in King Kong that we both appreciated such as when you held me in your hand with the delicacy of taking petals from a flower.
The most unforgettable scene, is your last moments just before falling from the Empire State building. You put me down with the utmost care for you wanted me to be safe from the death being unleashed upon you by the cruel airplanes. You felt your chest where you had been shot, knowing you were doomed. That scene continues to put a lump in my throat. I am so sorry, King Kong, for the horror that was unleashed upon you by people. This continues to bring tears to my eyes.
Your influence has affected the way people respond to me. Sometimes I fantasize that all of your influence could be used to bring about peace in the world. You have accumulated so much affection over all the years, that no one, absolutely no one, wants to kill or hurt you. Instead, what the whole world wants is to save you. These reflections are to let you know I am always thinking of you. Once we met, you had a pretty strong hold on me, and I on you.
With loving affection,
Vina Fay Wray (1907-2004)”
DerHundistLos on Thu, 2nd May 2019 8:20 am
humvee (no wonder a Trump supporter)-
Who is the “you” that you reference because it ain’t me and it ain’t the vast majority of the American public.
Now get in your humvee and shove off.
DerHundistLos on Thu, 2nd May 2019 8:23 am
Trump is a poor man’s idea of a rich man, a weak man’s idea of a strong man, and a stupid man’s idea of an intelligent man.
Donald Trump is the personification of the expression attributed to King Louis XV, “Après moi, le déluge” or “After me, the catastrophe”. He knows this all too well, which explains why the Grifter in Chief is doing everything possible to take advantage of his position and grab it all before it disappears forever, and The Dear Leader’s Republican congressional enablers could care less about the national and global ramifications. In the final analysis, greed and power “trump” all other considerations.
Sissyfuss on Thu, 2nd May 2019 9:58 am
Davy, I follow the Red Green movement which is why I possess 2200 rolls of duct tape, the handyman’s helper. Canadians will get that, I guess.
Cloggie on Thu, 2nd May 2019 10:07 am
#BeastFromTheEast
Democracy is anything but dying in Germany.
AfD on course to become largest party in eastern German states coming Autumn.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8919395/germany-afd-party-win-european-election-vote-merkel/amp/
Putin-Russia, here we come!
Davy on Thu, 2nd May 2019 10:24 am
“why I possess 2200 rolls of duct tape”
Sis, lol, I am keen on reusable rubber gear ties.
BTW, sis, I enjoy reading red/green stuff. Many of these folks are very smart and better informed on science than the orange status quo science deniers. I find Marxism a failure. Some socialism is fine as long as it is not somethin-for-nothin socialism that is peddled these days. That is just wealth and power transfer from one bad group to another.
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 2nd May 2019 10:30 am
Hillary Clinton: ‘China, if you’re listening, why don’t you get Trump’s tax returns?’
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/01/hillary-clinton-china-tax-returns-1296868?fbclid=IwAR04-XxFwpdxDEXGw1z4_lUXy1WyUmR-vhDCRNd6DUcxWGghsXlCYFRI4IQ
Oh Snap!
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 2nd May 2019 10:32 am
CLogg
Too little too late pal..The peak oil shortage is coming and your region is history soon..Doesnt matter who is in charge..The emperor will have no clothes on soon.
HAHAA
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 2nd May 2019 10:42 am
Proud chud gets what he asks for.
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1MnxnvoErekxO
Alice Friedemann on Thu, 2nd May 2019 11:51 am
America is really, truly, crazy and has been since settlers first arrived 500 years ago:
Fantasyland: How America Went Haywire. A 500-Year History
http://energyskeptic.com/2018/fantasyland-how-america-went-haywire-a-500-year-history/
At best, a third of Americans are rational
What percent of Americans are rational?
http://energyskeptic.com/2018/what-percent-of-americans-are-rational/
Davy on Thu, 2nd May 2019 12:39 pm
And New Zealand is much better??? Please. Nothing more hypocritical than an anti-American Anglo.
Davy on Thu, 2nd May 2019 12:51 pm
Alice, stick with articles like this:
http://energyskeptic.com/2019/replacing-diesel-tractors-with-horses-or-oxen-what-will-that-be-like
I enjoyed that very much
Darrell Cloud on Thu, 2nd May 2019 1:13 pm
I hate to bring up the obvious, but the United States was established as a republic. The republic is dying. Democracy however is flourishing.
For those that don’t understand the process, in a democracy one over half the population votes for a law that lets the majority kill the 49.999% and take their stuff.
FuelShortageComing on Thu, 2nd May 2019 1:22 pm
She is right the Western nations are populated with crazy people. People are mentally sick. Most of them act like the have low IQ and mild mental retardation. You see the same pattern in Canada, US, UK, France, Australian and so on.
The expression: it is a clown world really says it all. The behavior of Trudeau, Trump, Hillary AOC, Maxime Water are behavior of people with mild mental retardation. I would say that 90% of people living in Western nations are mildly retarded. Some patterns of mild retardation are excessive narcissism and self adoration, excessive self esteem, greed, plain low IQ and stupidity, lack of contact with reality, capable of inventing their own reality and believe in it.
Asian nations seem more grounded into reality.
Some walking video in Bangkok Thailand will give you a better perspective.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOUgTysEoaU
boney joe on Thu, 2nd May 2019 1:33 pm
Glad to have you back, bro. I AM THE MOB
Gotta love it:
Proud chud gets what he asks for.
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1MnxnvoErekxO
Truth Buster on Thu, 2nd May 2019 1:59 pm
Boney Joe is a loser JuanP sock
Cloggie on Thu, 2nd May 2019 2:41 pm
Glad to have you back, bro. I AM THE MOB
Gotta love it:
Proud chud gets what he asks for.
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1MnxnvoErekxO
We in Eurasia love these kind of pictures, exactly what we are expecting. Expect us to be honest brokers, seperate the combattants and have a few small antifa countries and a few small patriot countries. And the American problem the world had is solved, for ever.
boney joe on Thu, 2nd May 2019 2:47 pm
Thank you, Alice Friedemann, for an interesting pair of articles that explain much of today’s America.
The Truth Shall Set You Free on Thu, 2nd May 2019 2:51 pm
In a nutshell:
“The Republican Party has morphed over the past half-century from a socially moderate, environmentally progressive and fiscally cautious group to a conservative party bent on ecocide that is suspicious of government, allied against abortion and motivated by faith.”
http://energyskeptic.com/2018/fantasyland-how-america-went-haywire-a-500-year-history/
Cloggie on Thu, 2nd May 2019 3:08 pm
Hungary today: big buddies Orban and Salvini visit the border fence that Hungary erected in 2015 in a matter of a few weeks and effectively keep third world gate crashers and welfare tourists out. DJT can only dream of that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erVZ9hI0eAU
Europe is past political correctness, the snowball is changing in an avalanche. That’s why continental Europe has a future.
The Truth Shall Set You Free on Thu, 2nd May 2019 3:09 pm
Spy magazine wrote dozens of articles about Trump from 1986 to 1993, exposing his lies, brutishness, egomania, and absurdity. In return he sent threatening letters and called them in public “a piece of garbage”. Trump is driven by resentment of the Establishment. He doesn’t like experts because they interfere with his right as an American to believe or pretend that fictions are facts, to FEEL the truth. He sees conspiracies everywhere. He exploits the myths of white racial victimhood. He’s a spoiled, impulsive, moody, 70-year-old BRAT. And many more pages about Trump that are great but too long to paraphrase.
The Truth Shall Set You Free on Thu, 2nd May 2019 3:12 pm
Cloggie, we need a fence in the US to keep South Americans out.
Duncan Idaho on Thu, 2nd May 2019 3:12 pm
“The real war is breaking that private control over global finance which Venezuela is challenging with its socialism. All else is proxy to keeping the elite in control of the West”
Truth Buster on Thu, 2nd May 2019 3:33 pm
Note: There are different interpretations of what constitutes a county in certain states, but giving every debatable case to Clinton, Trump still overwhelmingly won # of counties in US by a margin of like 7 to 1.
> A 39 second read
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> In
> their infinite wisdom, the United States’ Founders created the Electoral
> College to ensure the STATES were fairly represented. Why should one
> or two densely populated areas speak for the whole of the
> nation?
>
> The
> following list of statistics has been making the rounds on the
> Internet. It should finally put an end to the argument as to why the
> Electoral College makes sense.
>
> Do
> share this. It needs to be widely known and
> understood.
>
> There
> are 3,141 counties in the United States. Trump won 3,084 of
> them. Clinton won 57.
>
> There
> are 62 counties in New York State. Trump won 46 of them.
> Clinton won 16.
>
> Clinton
> won the popular vote by approximately 1.5 million votes. In the 5
> counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond &
> Queens) Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump.
> (Clinton won 4 of these counties; Trump won Richmond.)
>
> Therefore,
> these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning the
> popular vote of the entire country.
>
> These
> 5 counties comprise 319 square miles. The United States is comprised
> of 3,797,000 square miles.
>
> When
> you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of
> territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those
> who inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a
> national election.
>
> Large,
> densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc.) DO NOT and
> SHOULD NOT speak for the rest of our country!
>
> And,
> it’s been verified and documented that those aforementioned 319 square
> miles are where the majority of our nation’s problems lie.
>
> Well
> worth the 39 seconds to read? Now please pass it on!
Cloggie on Thu, 2nd May 2019 3:46 pm
Cloggie, we need a fence in the US to keep South Americans out.
Of course you do. But the tragedy is that you have to many Democrats, too many globalists, too many davy-types, unwilling to defend the European-majority character of the country.
Don’t worry, we in Europe will come to your aid, the moment we have defeated the left in Europe, 1989-style.
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2019/05/02/the-european-hipsters-who-are-appealing-to-the-far-right/
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 2nd May 2019 4:07 pm
Thanks for the warm welcome Joe..Don’t worry Ill always be around, if not in person but in spirit!
My grandfather fought the Nazi’s..Now its my turn!
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 2nd May 2019 4:12 pm
I’m riding with Biden!
Joe’s blue collar roots will be hard to beat!
Cloggie on Thu, 2nd May 2019 4:21 pm
My grandfather fought the Nazi’s..Now its my turn!
You were the guy with the death wish, right? Instinctively you know what’s coming.lol
This time American lefties have to fight China, Russia and eventually Europe and US white nationalists on “your” soil. It’s going to be a walk-over.
Anonymouse on Thu, 2nd May 2019 4:42 pm
Demented Davy needs help again, time to wake up and dust off, I AM THE DAVYMOB.
Cloggie on Thu, 2nd May 2019 4:47 pm
Demented Davy needs help again, time to wake up and dust off, I AM THE DAVYMOB.
Inspector Razorsharp at it again, blundering his way into identity-reconnaissance with a success rate of 0%.
Davy is NOT the mobster.
Davy on Thu, 2nd May 2019 4:54 pm
Annoy, got bitch slapped good last comment I gave him. Stalkers need to get slapped although I think annoy likes it. He probably dreams about me. What a pervert.
Davy on Thu, 2nd May 2019 4:57 pm
“My grandfather fought the Nazi’s..Now its my turn!”
MOBster, the only fighting you will ever see is in your Xbox world, loser.
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 2nd May 2019 5:12 pm
Facebook bans ‘dangerous individuals’
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/technology-48142098
HAHA! Back to 4chan with all the other scum of society!
Long live Globalism!
Cloggie on Thu, 2nd May 2019 5:22 pm
“F*ck globalism, Please come back!”
Attitude in Europe towards INNER EU immigration is changing. Countries increasingly want to keep their own folks. 60% of the Spanish want laws that forbid Spanjards to work abroad. Even a country like Poland (50%) wants that too:
https://nos.nl/artikel/2282999-arbeidsmigratie-in-eu-van-de-deur-staat-open-tot-kom-alsjeblieft-terug.html
makati1 on Thu, 2nd May 2019 5:54 pm
“Nothing more hypocritical than an anti-American Anglo.”
Sure there is! A empire supporting Missouri Jackass, Delusional Davy! LOL
makati1 on Thu, 2nd May 2019 6:01 pm
Hey MOB! Remember those rants about only using a “peer reviewed” sources of info? And me telling you that they were bullshit? Well, check this out:
“Monolithic ideological echo chambers make for poor incubators of research as they insulate their participants from outside challenges. The recently observed crisis of rigor in scholarly research, exemplified by the recent wave of hoax articles being accepted for publication in ostensibly scholarly outlets, is directly symptomatic of an associated collapse in the safeguards and standards of peer review.”
https://www.aier.org/article/here-proof-leftist-tilt-campus-has-gotten-dramatically-worse
Unless you are in a STEM course, college is an over priced, over hyped joke in the US. Better to be a plumber.
Davy on Thu, 2nd May 2019 6:25 pm
‘Sure there is! A empire supporting Missouri Jackass, Delusional Davy! LOL”
I misspoke, nobody on this board is as hypocritical and blindly delusional than the old man from the P’s. makato, you think your shit smells like perfume. I can just imagine you in person with your vainness and know-it-all demeanor. Wow, what a loser.
Davy on Thu, 2nd May 2019 6:29 pm
“Unless you are in a STEM course, college is an over priced, over hyped joke in the US. Better to be a plumber.”
Bullshit, makato, college is a must for specialization. The key is don’t get into the wrong field in the wrong school and with the wrong attitude. Technical schools are great alternatives but these schools are now like junior colleges. Higher education is a must if you want to go into a serious career. You hate college because it was too tough for you.
Anonymouse on Thu, 2nd May 2019 6:35 pm
I misspoke, nobody on this board is as hypocritical and blindly delusional than the old man from Missouri. the exceptionalturd, you think your shit smells like perfume. I can just imagine you in person with your vainness and know-it-all demeanor. Wow, what a loser.
There you go, all fixed for you dumbass.
No need to thank me.
Davy on Thu, 2nd May 2019 6:48 pm
wow, annoy, did I get under your skin? LOL. You are stalking more than normal.
Davy on Thu, 2nd May 2019 6:51 pm
Why do they hate me?
I’m not a hypocrite, really!
I’m not a liar, really!
Do as I say not as I do!
Humper pumper number nine!!!!
makati1 on Thu, 2nd May 2019 6:52 pm
Davy has nothing to post except putdowns and long winded, unread, cut and paste word salads. There is no defense possible of the baby killing, plundering, destructive, terrorist organization called America. It is not a democracy. Never was. Never will be.
It does deserve the blow-back that is coming and the pain it will bring to all those who ignore US killing and destruction in the 3rd world, defenseless countries. Soon, I hope. Enough to bring it to its knees and out of all the 800+ foreign bases around the world. GO TRUMP! TRUMP IN 2020! LMAO
JuanPee identity theft on Thu, 2nd May 2019 6:58 pm
LOL, now even juanpee comes out of the woodwork to do identity theft. juanpee can’t stand his buddies getting rough up. LOL
Davy on Thu, 2nd May 2019 6:51 pm
Davy on Thu, 2nd May 2019 6:59 pm
OH BOY, makato is being dramatic:
“There is no defense possible of the baby killing”
LOL LOSER
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 2nd May 2019 7:02 pm
Far right chud Tommy Robinson ft McDonald’s milkshake.
https://i.redd.it/y92tncvccuv21.jpg