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Why World Worries About Russia’s Natural Gas Pipeline
A planned new natural-gas pipeline into Europe from Russia is shaking up geopolitics. Nord Stream 2, as it’s called, worries leaders in Eastern Europe, has stirred the ire of U.S. President Donald Trump and has put German Chancellor Angela Merkel on the hot seat.
1. What is Nord Stream 2?
It’s a planned new 1,230-kilometer (764-mile) undersea pipeline that will carry natural gas from fields in Russia to the EU network at Germany’s Baltic coast. It will double the capacity of an existing undersea route — the original Nord Stream — that opened in 2011. Russia’s Gazprom PJSC owns the project, with Royal Dutch Shell Plc and four other investors including Germany’s Uniper SE and Wintershall AG providing half of the 9.5 billion-euro ($11 billion) in cost.
2. How close is it to being built?
A Swiss unit of Gazprom, Nord Stream 2 AG, has received environmental and construction permits from Germany, Finland and Sweden but has had trouble getting similar approvals from Denmark. (The pipeline would cross the economic zones of those four nations, plus Russia’s.) The company may reroute the line away from Danish waters, eliminating the final legal hurdle. Dredging work has already started, and the company plans to begin putting sections of pipe on the seabed in the next few weeks. It’s due to be complete in late 2019, a target that looks “optimistic,” according to Bloomberg Intelligence analysts Rob Barnett and Elchin Mammadov.
3. What’s the point?
Before Nord Stream, Russia was sending about two-thirds of its natural gas exports to Europe through pipelines in Ukraine, a nation with which it has had tense relations since the Soviet Union collapsed. That left Gazprom exposed to disruptions, such as the pricing dispute with Ukraine that prompted Russian leaders to halt gas flows for 13 days in 2009. Since then, relations between the two countries have worsened, culminating in the Ukrainian popular revolt that kicked out their pro-Russian president and led to Russia seizing the Crimean Peninsula. The Nord Stream projects are just one part of Gazprom’s decades-long efforts to diversify its export options to Europe. Russia expects European gas demand to increase as some nations move away from nuclear and coal power and as their domestic gas production decreases.
4. What’s the worry?
Countries that sit between Russia and Germany collect transit fees on the natural gas that flows through their territories. Those nations include Ukraine, Poland and Slovakia. They’re worried both that they will lose revenue and that Nord Stream 2 gives Russia the ability to bypass them completely in times of political friction. Lithuania’s president, Dalia Grybauskaite, said her nation has always viewed Nord Stream 2 “as geopolitical, politically motivated, having no economic justification and also binding hands for some European countries to pursue a free energy policy.” This all comes as Europe’s relations with Russia are at their lowest point in decades, with the government of Russian President Vladimir Putin accused of meddling in elections in the U.S. and Europe and carrying out assassinations and attempted hits in Britain.
5. Why is the U.S. involved?
A group of 39 U.S. senators said in March that Nord Stream 2 would make American allies “more susceptible to Moscow’s coercion and malign influence.” On July 11, before a meeting with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, Trump said Germany had made itself “captive to Russia” by “getting so much of its energy” from there. After a subsequent meeting with Putin, Trump vowed to compete for Europe’s gas market. Nine days later, after striking an in-person deal with European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker over threatened tariffs, Trump said the EU would become a “massive buyer” of U.S. LNG.
6. Could the U.S. really compete with Russia for the EU market?
That would be a stretch. Gas from the U.S. must be chilled into a liquid and shipped in tankers at a great cost. Russia’s supplies mostly arrive in Europe through a network of pipelines that have been in place for decades — and at a much lower price. U.S. gas is more likely to end up in Latin America, which is closer, or in Asia, where prices are higher (though China’s planned 25 percent tariff on U.S. LNG may close that avenue).
7. Does Germany rely on Russia’s energy too much?
It’s true that Germany is heavily dependent on imported fossil fuel, and one of its other sources of gas — the Netherlands — is drying up fast. Russia supplied roughly 46 percent of Germany’s gas and 59 percent of its oil in 2017, according to Bloomberg calculations based on customs data from Moscow. (Those numbers don’t take into account trades between EU countries of oil and gas that originated in Russia.) Trump may be exaggerating when he says Germany could rely on Russia for up to 70 percent of its energy once Nord Stream 2 is operational. But he’s right that Germany spends billions on Russia’s energy. Last year, that amounted to almost $22 billion, according to Russian customs.
8. How do Russia and Germany respond to the criticism?
Putin has said Trump’s complaints are motivated by his wish to promote “the interests of his business” to sell American liquefied natural gas to Europe. Merkel has defended the “economic aspects” of Nord Stream 2 and says she’s determined to make sure Ukraine isn’t “fully cut off from transit traffic.” After Trump’s comments at the NATO meeting, Germany’s defense minister, Ursula von der Leyen responded in a BBC interview, “We have an independent energy supply, we are an independent country, we are just diversifying.”
To contact the reporters on this story: Elena Mazneva in Moscow at emazneva@bloomberg.net;Anna Shiryaevskaya in London at ashiryaevska@bloomberg.net
To contact the editors responsible for this story: Reed Landberg at landberg@bloomberg.net, Laurence Arnold
52 Comments on "Why World Worries About Russia’s Natural Gas Pipeline"
Cloggie on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 3:22 pm
“The World” is not worried at all about Nord Stream 2. The only one who is really worried is the US deep state and its mouthpieces WaPo and Bloomberg.
In reality Washington is afraid that it is losing its grip on its European colony, that Europe could defect towards Russia, a realistic fear, certainly now that the UK is defecting towards the US.
I think a split is inevitable, the entire planet is heading towards identitarianism. The UK, that since 500 years had zero affinity with Europe, is heading towards its real home: Anglosphere.
Continental Europe is decoupling itself from its former overlord, is moving away from multicult and towards a merger with Russia in order to reaffirm itself as Europe and home of the white race, in sharp contrast to a rapidly mongrelizing Anglosphere, in line with the designs its real rulers have defined.
Iran, Trump and Brexit combined will provide the necessary shock to realize the breakup of the West.
https://www.amazon.de/Abstieg-Westens-Europa-Weltordnung-Jahrhunderts/dp/3462051652/ref=sr_1_1
Former German FM Fisher: the end of the West.
Let’s bring it on, the sooner the better.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 3:31 pm
CLogg
Europe isn’t doing anything besides collapsing..And how would uniting with Russia solve your regions economic problems? You think that if everyone falls in line with an elite authoritarian…that it will create prosperity for everyone..Sorry a global oil shortage is coming and its going to collapse the world economy soon..
You low IQ moron.
Cloggie on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 3:45 pm
“Europe isn’t doing anything besides collapsing.”
Sure, and we are eating our babies, go figure.
Seriously, we are going to retake our old position and eclipse you. Not that it is very difficult to eclipse third world countries.
For the rest, you are a good lad, millimind, nothing wrong with you. The trouble is just that shortly after your birth the good rabbi should have thrown you away rather than your foreskin.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 3:56 pm
Clogg
The only thing Europe is going to take is refugees and migrants from countries we have destroyed..
LMFAO!
MASTERMIND on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 3:58 pm
Clogg
As M. King Hubbert (1956) shows, peak oil is about discovering less oil, and eventually producing less oil due to lack of discovery.
Oil discoveries in 2017 hit all-time low –Houston Chronicle
https://www.chron.com/business/energy/article/Oil-discoveries-in-2017-hit-all-time-low-12447212.php
IEA Chief warns of world oil shortages by 2020 as discoveries fall to record lows
https://www.wsj.com/articles/iea-says-global-oil-discoveries-at-record-low-in-2016-1493244000
Saudi Arabia’s Energy Minister Warns of World Oil Shortages Ahead
https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-minister-sees-end-of-oil-price-slump-1476870790
Saudi Aramco chief warns of looming oil shortage
https://www.ft.com/content/ed1e8102-212f-11e7-b7d3-163f5a7f229c
A Regional Oil Extraction and Consumption Model. (Dittmar 2017)
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1708.03150.pdf
HSBC Global Bank: 81% of world liquids production already in decline and world oil shortages ahead
https://www.scribd.com/document/367688629/HSBC-Peak-Oil-Report-2017
Projection of World Fossil Fuels by Country (Mohr, 2015)
https://www.scribd.com/document/375110317/Projection-of-World-Fossil-Fuels-by-Country-Mohr-2015
USA DOE Study: Peaking of World Oil Production (Hirsch, 2005)
https://www.netl.doe.gov/publications/others/pdf/Oil_Peaking_NETL.pdf
Australian Government (Leaked) Study: concludes world peak oil around 2020
https://web.archive.org/web/20170415190328/https://www.aspo-australia.org.au/References/Bruce/BITRE-Report-117-Oil_supply_trends-2009.pdf
German Military (leaked) Peak Oil study: oil is used in the production of 95% of all industrial goods, so a shortage of oil would collapse the world economy & world governments
http://www.energybulletin.net/sites/default/files/Peak%20Oil_Study%20EN.pdf
MASTERMIND on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 3:59 pm
As M. King Hubbert (1956) shows, peak oil is about discovering less oil, and eventually producing less oil due to lack of discovery.
Oil discoveries in 2017 hit all-time low –Houston Chronicle
https://www.chron.com/business/energy/article/Oil-discoveries-in-2017-hit-all-time-low-12447212.php
IEA Chief warns of world oil shortages by 2020 as discoveries fall to record lows
https://www.wsj.com/articles/iea-says-global-oil-discoveries-at-record-low-in-2016-1493244000
Saudi Arabia’s Energy Minister Warns of World Oil Shortages Ahead
https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-minister-sees-end-of-oil-price-slump-1476870790
Saudi Aramco chief warns of looming oil shortage
https://www.ft.com/content/ed1e8102-212f-11e7-b7d3-163f5a7f229c
A Regional Oil Extraction and Consumption Model. (Dittmar 2017)
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1708.03150.pdf
HSBC Global Bank: 81% of world liquids production already in decline and world oil shortages ahead
https://www.scribd.com/document/367688629/HSBC-Peak-Oil-Report-2017
Projection of World Fossil Fuels by Country (Mohr, 2015)
https://www.scribd.com/document/375110317/Projection-of-World-Fossil-Fuels-by-Country-Mohr-2015
Australian Government (Leaked) 457 pg Study: concludes world peak oil around 2020
https://web.archive.org/web/20170415190328/https://www.aspo-australia.org.au/References/Bruce/BITRE-Report-117-Oil_supply_trends-2009.pdf
German Military (leaked) Peak Oil study: oil is used in the production of 95% of all industrial goods, so a shortage of oil would collapse the world economy & world governments
http://www.energybulletin.net/sites/default/files/Peak%20Oil_Study%20EN.pdf
Cloggie on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 4:03 pm
“The only thing Europe is going to take is refugees and migrants from countries we have destroyed..”
I appreciate your brutal honesty.
Let me return the favor: we in turn are very good in kicking out people we don’t like. You should know that as no other:
https://goo.gl/images/yF35A9
For the rest, keep destroying the US for us, will ya, with continued third world immigration.
One competitor less.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 4:30 pm
Clogg
Immigration is at 25 year low..And the majority isn’t even from 3rd world countries..And Mexican immigration peaked back in 2000 and has declined 80 percent since..
If you want to keep blaming foreigners that’s fine..The elites thank you..
MASTERMIND on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 4:31 pm
“Imagine a society that subjects people to conditions that make them terribly unhappy then gives them the drugs to take away their unhappiness. Science fiction? It is already happening to some extent in our own society. Instead of removing the conditions that make people depressed modern society gives them antidepressant drugs. In effect antidepressants are a means of modifying an individual’s internal state in such a way as to enable him to tolerate social conditions that he would otherwise find intolerable.”
– Theodore Kaczynski
Cloggie on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 4:46 pm
Immigration is at 25 year low
Thanks to Trump, but he won’t last for ever, to put it mildly. Already European America is over, for good. Thanks to 50 years of cumulative immigration, resulting in this:
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2018/05/21/european-america-is-over/
and this…
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/07/detroit-illiteracy-nearly-half-education_n_858307.html
Forget it, it is over with “benevolent hegemony”. I’m sure these new Americans can dance, but if they can’t read and write, where in the global pecking order will they end up?
Asking the question is answering it.
dissident on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 4:49 pm
Typical NATO propaganda. NATO contains 11% of the world population and calls itself the world.
FOAD NATO.
PS. The EU is free to shop elsewhere for its gas. Including the mythical fracked gas in LNG form from the USA. LOL.
onlooker on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 4:50 pm
See Brave New World related to that imagined society which already exists
makati1 on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 6:35 pm
dissident, Almost all Western (US) articles and studies assume that it is the only thing in the world that counts. (Pure arrogance!) As you said, less than 1/8th of the world wants to dictate to the other 7/8ths. Now, the 7/8ths are rising up and saying: “NO!” And about time!
makati1 on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 6:37 pm
WaPo & Bloomberg, two of the US’ main propaganda mills. Really to be believed. NOT!
MASTERMIND on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 6:45 pm
Clogg
It has nothing to do with Trump you moron
https://imgur.com/a/Gv5q8Ud
You have just been duped by right wing fake news into blaming someone else for the destruction of the working class.
Anonymouse1 on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 6:50 pm
Mini-True shits this out.
“This all comes as Europe’s relations with Russia are at their lowest point in decades, with the government of Russian President Vladimir Putin accused(without any proof whatsoever) of meddling in elections in the U.S. and Europe and carrying out assassinations and attempted hits in Britain.” (Another fact, and evidence free fabrication).
LoL
No wonder amerikans are considered the dumbest asses in dumbasslandia. With propaganda like that, and slack-jawed morons ready to swallow bullshit like it every single time, who needs reality. When reality can be twisted to be anything the washingdum compost (and friends), say it is.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 6:51 pm
Scientists Warn the UN of Capitalism’s Imminent Demise
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/43pek3/scientists-warn-the-un-of-capitalisms-imminent-demise
makati1 on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 7:13 pm
MM, can you actually post an original point of view on a topic? A misleading headline and a reference is NOT debate. It shows a lack of intelligence or time to think and compose a position on the subject. Spam?
twocats on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 7:31 pm
MM – you don’t need to disrupt every thread and statement with a collapse statement. clogg’s point is very relevant – it’s clear this is a hit piece meant to gin up anxiety over Russia/Nord Stream 2. the article is written by two russians with an obvious objective to make the project seem diabolical.
why WOULDN’T Russia want to eliminate third party middle-men to its exports and products? that’s capitalism MFer.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 7:32 pm
Mak
The article I posted above is way too long to quote from..So I just posted the whole thing and whoever is interested can read it..I am not debating anything..
twocats on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 7:35 pm
basically – what makati said. I thought you were some high-educated genius or something? like melania saying – be better
Davy on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 7:39 pm
Billy, can you actually post an original point of view on a topic? A misleading headline and a reference is NOT debate. It shows a lack of intelligence or time to think and compose a position on the subject. Spam?
makati1 on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 7:47 pm
Fiction: “America, the indispensable/exceptional country.
Reality: “The Tectonic Plates Of Geopolitics Are Starting To Shift”
“…America’s unwavering commitment to fight all of the world’s scourges has brought all those governments and the wealthy individuals who support them to a critical mass, joining forces to create a parallel financial system which would be out of reach of America’s long arm. Should they succeed, the impact on America’s global posture would be transformational.”
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/08/27/the-anti-dollar-awakening-could-be-ruder-and-sooner-than-most-economists-predict.html?__twitter_impression=true
“The peak of American empire has already come and gone, but this reality is not yet widely understood… (At least, not in America. But it is well understood in places like China, Russia, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Egypt, some parts of the EU, etc.)
Germany’s foreign minister, Heiko Maas, who has suggested that the European Union should set up its own payment system that would give Brussels independence from Washington. … “It has reached the point where the South Koreans are determined to press ahead. They no longer feel the need to act in parallel with us.” … The tectonic plates of geopolitics are finally starting to shift. Slowly at first, rapidly later, and I expect the world to be entirely different in structure by around 2025.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-27/tectonic-plates-geopolitics-are-starting-shift
I expect that it will be sooner, but I am preparing for the new world being formed. Are you?
makati1 on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 8:21 pm
MM: You can take the time to summarize the article and maybe add a few quotes from it. Just posting the headline and ref is a waste of your time and shows laziness and/or lack of thought.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 8:45 pm
Mak
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The article cites two new scholarly papers.they are likely too sophisticated for an uneducated nut job like you though..
JuanP on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 8:47 pm
The world? The world? ROFLMFAO! Reading the title is enough to know that this is a BS propaganda piece so I skipped the article. I also skipped MM’s bullshit comments since he seems to be high on speed or something later.
The USA, Ukraine, Poland, and Slovakia are not the world; they are just four out of more than 200 countries. The most violent, destructive, and agressive one (USA), a particularly deranged one (Ukraine), a quite resentful one (Poland), and a truly insignificant one (Slovakia). The world? What a load of crap. The hairy, stinking buttholes of the world, maybe.
JuanP on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 8:49 pm
Mm “The article cites two new scholarly papers.they are likely too sophisticated for an uneducated nut job like you though..”
I can’t help but wonder what they would be for an illiterate fool like you then.
JuanP on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 8:52 pm
I am against NordStream 2. I don’t think Russia should sell more gas to Europe. The Europeans should be forced to buy more expensive LNG from other countries until they revoke their illegal sanctions against Russia and stop supporting the illegitimate, genocidal coup regime in Kiev.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 9:06 pm
Juanp
Why don’t you go grab a clean towel and wipe down that back of yours..
makati1 on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 9:10 pm
Totally agree on both of your last two posts, JuanP.
“scholarly papers” = Charmin in my mind. Who signed the paycheck and what is the spin? Anything out of the institutions of ‘higher learning’ today is likely propaganda.
And, yes, the EU is hypocritical, just like the Us. They want it both ways. Decisions. Decisions…
makati1 on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 9:13 pm
MM reverting to his immature, 12 year old, (or is it 8 year old?) persona. He knows he is not intelligent enough to debate with the big boys. Too brainwashed and inexperienced with reality. lol
Cloggie on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 9:13 pm
These EU anti-Russian sanctions are history soon, with the mood in Europe changing and the new Italian government in place:
https://www.politico.eu/article/matteo-salvini-italy-not-afraid-to-use-eu-veto-to-lift-russian-sanctions-crimea-vladimir-putin/
Yesterday Macron made a geopolitically very far-reaching remark:
“Macron says EU can no longer entrust its security to the US alone: ‘It’s up to us’
French president says defence cooperation should include all European countries, including Russia”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/emmanuel-macron-france-president-eu-security-donald-trump-us-a8509606.html
This is dynamite! Anti-Anglo Gaullism at its finest!
Take note: “including Russia”
JuanP on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 9:15 pm
Mm, I flew first class to the USA almost 30 years ago. My back never got wet, though I may have spilled some French Champagne on my shirt. However, if my back was wet, as you implied,it would be very easy to dry it as you correctly pointed out. You, on the other hand, will remain an indebted, negative net worth, brainwashed, verifiable idiot until you die. You can’t fix STUPID! ROFLMFAO!
JuanP on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 9:17 pm
Mak, Thanks for the rice farmer link. I checked it out today and really liked it. I added it to my favorites and my homepage links!
makati1 on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 9:24 pm
You are welcome, JuanP. I just found a new one that interests me as it pertains to my ‘neighborhood’.
https://asia-pacificresearch.com/
Tuesday morning here. Heading for another sunny, 90F day. ^_^
MASTERMIND on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 9:32 pm
Mak
Globalism is ending soon..You made a dumb move in moving to a third world shit hole.You will regret it.
Scientists Warn the UN of Capitalism’s Imminent Demise
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/43pek3/scientists-warn-the-un-of-capitalisms-imminent-demise
JuanP on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 9:39 pm
Cloggie “These EU anti-Russian sanctions are history soon, with the mood in Europe changing and the new Italian government in place”
I so hope you are right! I have found European foreign policy quite disappointing this past couple of decades, particularly where the Ukraine, Syria, and Lybia are concerned.
makati1 on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 9:41 pm
Delusional Mm, YOU are the one living in the decaying police state called America, druggies with guns all around you, gangbangers on every corner, a JIT delivery system requiring imports for your necessities, a government and corporations bleeding you dry, suicide rates escalating, etc.
A dumbed down educational system where people like you can actually get a degree without thinking. And on and on. Not one percent of the Us population has a chance of being self sufficient when the SHTF. Not even close.
And you say I live in a bad location where the situation is just the opposite? LMAO
Cloggie on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 9:50 pm
“Mm, I flew first class to the USA almost 30 years ago. My back never got wet, though I may have spilled some French Champagne on my shirt. ”
LOL
MASTERMIND on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 10:10 pm
Mak
Actually I live 15 minutes from Lake Michigan..No sharks, no salt, no worries..And i have a hottie girlfriend..You are all alone and can’t even get a girl anymore..
Just another old crank ie angry incel..
MASTERMIND on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 10:11 pm
Mak
Maybe you and clogg can hook via webcam and watch each other jerk off? Clogg seems to be totally obsessed with alpha males..And I know you are all alone..
Fag boys.
makati1 on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 10:27 pm
Your “hottie” girlfriend is a blowup from Amazon? And you still live in the US police state and all of its failures. Acting like a spoiled 9 year old only accentuates my assertions about you.
As for my female friends, you have no idea. My dentist tries to hook me up with her sister. I could have a harem if I wanted it or a Flipina wife of any age. You are totally ignorant of the Philippines. I had 60 years of females and marriage. That was enough.
A bit of bachelorhood is all I want now. My hormones don’t get in the way of my thinking and decisions as they did in my youth. It’s nice to be past youth and into maturity. Ask anyone over 50.
You keep pointing put that fact with your sexual slurs and immature insertions in every ‘9 year old’ comment you make. Your balls rule your brain. Too bad. Not a good time to be pussy whipped by your blowup…er…hottie GF. LMAO
BTW: Does her, and your mom’s, income support you in the manner you like? LOL
MASTERMIND on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 11:10 pm
Warning: Daily toll of EMP attack, 574 deaths, $35.7 billion, ‘a civilization killer’
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/warning-daily-toll-of-emp-attack-574-deaths-35-7-billion-a-civilization-killer
Anonymouse1 on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 11:33 pm
The exceptionalturd needs his sock-puppets. If not for mushmind, he would have a hard finding anything new to say. Or anything to say, period. Which is why, he cuts and pastes and so much I suppose. With mushsock here, he can just string whatever random insults and delusions he feels like, together and call it a day.
It is hardly a coincidence, that both of them, are as arrogant, delusional, and belligerent as one another. Since, they, are, you know, one and the same.
makati1 on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 12:02 am
MM: An EMP attack on the US would result in millions of deaths in the first hour. Think about it.
How many cars going 50+ mph on the interstates would crash when their engines shut off and their power brakes, etc, fail? Ditto for cars in the city that would suddenly stop in intersections with cross traffic? Then there are those thousands of planes in the air that would have engine failure. Oops! Look out below! Then there are the hundreds of thousands of Americans with pacemakers that quit. People on life support in hospitals. No ambulances. No police cars. And on and on.
Most things in the Us have those little electronic chips that would suddenly quit, permanently. Like in your cell phone, PC, refrigerator, TV, radio, the ‘smart’ meter on your electric service, the electrical service itself, and on and on.
The deaths in the first hour would be horrendous and no one to take them for burial. The rat population would explode. Then, over the next month, millions more would die from lack of meds. Over the next year, the Us population would likely be in the single million numbers, if any.
It’s nice to live in a country that is not a target for the Us, China or Russia. The Ps have nothing they want. It’s just a nice place to live.
Cloggie on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 12:57 am
i have a hottie girlfriend..
No serious man refers to his loved-one as a “hottie”.
You are a sad, lonely f*ck, roaming the internet to unleash your moldy 10 year old obsolete peak oil links upon, fighting depression and with a death wish.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 8:38 am
CLogg
Here is my girlfriend
https://ibb.co/kM8JL9
She is hot and smart..
Oil discoveries in 2017 hit all-time low –Houston Chronicle
https://www.chron.com/business/energy/article/Oil-discoveries-in-2017-hit-all-time-low-12447212.php
IEA Chief warns of world oil shortages by 2020 as discoveries fall to record lows
https://www.wsj.com/articles/iea-says-global-oil-discoveries-at-record-low-in-2016-1493244000
Saudi Arabia’s Energy Minister Warns of World Oil Shortages Ahead
https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-minister-sees-end-of-oil-price-slump-1476870790
Saudi Aramco chief warns of looming oil shortage
https://www.ft.com/content/ed1e8102-212f-11e7-b7d3-163f5a7f229c
A Regional Oil Extraction and Consumption Model. (Dittmar 2017)
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1708.03150.pdf
HSBC Global Bank: 81% of world liquids production already in decline and world oil shortages ahead
https://www.scribd.com/document/367688629/HSBC-Peak-Oil-Report-2017
Projection of World Fossil Fuels by Country (Mohr, 2015)
https://www.scribd.com/document/375110317/Projection-of-World-Fossil-Fuels-by-Country-Mohr-2015
MASTERMIND on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 8:40 am
Clogg
You are a sad and low iq moron..Who has turned into a nazi because you are a lonely incel..Only the unloved hate the unloved and unnatural…
Sissyfuss on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 10:21 am
Kilowatt Clog, does it seem that Macron has developed his EU self defense strategy after the bromance with the NATO hating Golden Goyim really took off. I believe that Drumph really enjoys all that Euro style man smooching.
Free Speech Forum on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 2:50 pm
People used to take responsibility for themselves, but now that
the US is a socialist police state, Americans have given up.
Why do anything if everything is illegal and hard work is punished with
regulations and taxes while laziness is rewarded with welfare?
Why be careful or protect yourself when the state is your mommy?
The collapse of the USA is disgusting. How can Americans sleep at night
or look in the mirror now without feeling ashamed?