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Why Jamal Khashoggi Was Killed
A new whisper campaign against him is trying to blur the truth: that he criticized certain U.S-Arab alliances, and paid the price…
In the early summer of 2005, during the height of the U.S. war in Iraq, I arranged to have lunch with Jerry Jones, a special assistant to then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. I had heard rumors that Jones and a number of senior U.S. military leaders were holding quiet talks with prominent Islamists and other officials representing Iraq’s tribes at a hotel in Amman, Jordan. The discussions were part of an effort by Jones and senior military officers to end the Anbar insurgency, which was responsible for a lengthening list of U.S. casualties in Iraq.
For the outset of our meeting, Jones (a gangly and affable Texan who’d served in influential positions in several Republican administrations), detailed the challenges facing the U.S. military in Anbar and provided a summary of the “brutal,” “bloody” and “harrowing” fighting there. America’s military deaths were spiking, with no end in sight. “We’re in trouble,” Jones concluded. While much of this was known at the time, Jones’s narrative stunned me. “Are you telling me that we’re losing the war in Iraq?” I asked. Jones chuckled and shook his head: “Losing? We’re not only losing,” he said, “we’re on the wrong side.”
Not much has changed in the intervening years, as the recent murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi at the hands of a Saudi kill team has shown. While the U.S. was able to quell the Anbar insurgency, America has stumbled from position to position in the region, primarily because we’ve continued to make the same mistakes that we made in Anbar—we’re losing in the Middle East because we’re on the wrong side, a side that is represented by leaders like Mohammed bin Salman. Khashoggi knew this better than anyone.
Last August, Khoshoggi authored a Washington Post article cataloguing these stumbles, and offering a solution. Khoshoggi wrote that America’s failure in the Middle East was the result of its failure to recognize the importance of the region’s Islamist parties—primarily the Muslim Brotherhood. “There can be no political reform and democracy in any Arab country without accepting that political Islam is a part of it,” he wrote.
Khashoggi’s critique was both eloquent and controversial. It’s why he was murdered.
“The United States’s aversion to the Muslim Brotherhood,” he wrote
“. . . is the root of a predicament across the entire Arab world. The eradication of the Muslim Brotherhood is nothing less than an abolition of democracy and a guarantee that Arabs will continue living under authoritarian and corrupt regimes.”
While eloquent, Khoshoggi’s views weren’t a surprise. He had made the same point to me back in 2005 (we were only acquaintances, though we found ourselves singing from the same songsheet), during a conference of Islamist organizations in Beirut, which included the senior leaders of the Brotherhood. America was fated to fail in the Middle East, Khoshoggi told me then, because it was “unable to distinguish real enemies from true friends.” More simply, since 9/11 (as he described it), the U.S. had failed to distinguish between Islamists who have constituencies and are political parties (like the Muslim Brotherhood), with those who have no constituencies and are networks—like al-Qaeda and, later, ISIS. Conversely, the leaders whom we then and continue to identify as secular reformers and our closest friends and allies (a list that includes General Abdul Fattah al-Sisi in Egypt and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in Saudi Arabia) are neither. They are policemen.
If there is any compensation in this sordid tale, it is that America’s mistakes have been bipartisan. George Bush’s invasion of Iraq did not end al-Qaeda’s threat, but actually strengthened it (and empowered Iran), while Barack Obama’s pledge to the Egyptian people that the U.S. would support “a democratic political order with participation from all sides” breathed its last when, in August of 2013, the Egyptian military massacred over 600 pro-democracy demonstrators in Cairo’s Rabaa Square. Obama looked the other way.
Put simply, when the chips were down, America’s political leaders didn’t support hope and change, they supported reaction and murder. They put American on the side of the thugs.
The idea (momentary, fleeting) that this would change under Donald Trump, died a comical death on May 21, 2017 in Riyadh, when our president placed his hands on a glowing orb that symbolized the establishment of Saudi Arabia’s “Global Center for Combating Extremist Ideology.” Joining him in this decidedly perverse celebration was Egypt’s dictator Abdul Fattah al-Sisi and Saudi Arabia’s King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud.
“This groundbreaking new center represents a clear declaration that Muslim-majority countries must take the lead in combating radicalization,” Trump said during the ceremony, “and I want to express our gratitude to King Salman for this strong demonstration of leadership.”
Among the onlookers that Sunday evening was son-in-law Jared Kushner and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Nayef. Jared was then ensconced as the administration’s new point man on Middle East peace (the bar is low, so why not?), while bin Nayef was on his way out the door —escorted there by Mohammed bin Salman, Saudi Arabia’s newly anointed and photogenic strongman. And so it was that while many of America’s journalists recoiled from Trump’s decision to make common cause with Fatah al-Sisi, they safely ignored him as they tripped all over each other to praise his alter-ego, and supporter, bin Salman or “MbS.” Bin Salman, they said, was a leader who promised to create “a more modern, more entrepreneurial, less-hidebound and more youth-oriented society.”
That promise, it seems, has now been drowned out by the screams of a reporter who dared tell the truth. It’s no wonder that many foreign policy officials view Khashoggi’s death as a possible turning point in U.S.-Saudi relations—and one that might spur a rethinking of U.S. policy in the region. But even that hope is now beginning to fade, led by the reaction of a community of voices—including National Security Adviser John Bolton, his allies at Frank Gaffney’s Center for Security Policy, and the new Kushner-linked Strategic Studies Group—have mounted a well-documented “whispering campaign” that Khashoggi “pimped for the Brotherhood.”
In one sense, of course, they’re right. For what Khashoggi was telling us (and what he wrote in his August piece in the Washington Post) is that the U.S. has gotten the Middle East terribly wrong. That we have miscast our enemies and misidentified our friends. That the forces for change in Cairo and Riyadh are not in its governments, but in its prisons. That America is not only losing in the Middle East, it’s on the wrong side. That Mohammed bin Salman is not a friend of democracy, but its enemy.
Khashoggi was right. Which is why he was murdered.
52 Comments on "Why Jamal Khashoggi Was Killed"
Anonymouse1 on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 9:40 pm
Ummm, lots of people point out the amero-zionist empire is on the ‘wrong side’, and often in very direct and blunt terms. And pretty much all of them are still breathing. The idea this guy (alone) was killed for stating such obvious, and well known-facts, reads more like spin, than truth. No one had heard of this guy before this all went down, or his work, and he was far from a household name (anywhere). Had he lived, It is doubtful anyone here would have ever heard of him, his opinions, or his work(s?).
This article, is spin and deflection, promoting the idea (again!), of a well-intention and pure-hearted world policeman that keeps trying to go good, but always seems to keep getting tripped up by all the bad apples of the world (middle east). The unstated implication of this self-serving narrative is the the uS has the right basic idea interfering in the middle-east, it just need to do a better job of it. LoL, sure.
This dumbass article, will never tell you there is nothing accidental about uS, or jew, or saudi policy. Sure they screw up, miscalculate, suffer setbacks from time to time, but none of it, was ever predicated on promoting world peace and goodness. ‘They’ know exactly what they are doing, or want to do at any rate, and who they are supporting to do it.
PSA: Delusionaal davytrud needs your help. He is quite mad, in both senses of the word, and needs money for psychiatric help he cannot afford.
dissident on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 11:09 pm
The point about him being obscure is rather important. This suggests that he was engaged in other activities under cover of being a journalist and it is these activities that are linked to his gruesome death. He was probably a multiple agent for various parties including the USA and the Saudis. We will probably never know what triggered his murder.
boney joe on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 12:14 am
“Thanks Antius for getting the board back on topic.”
“You’re welcome. I don’t like telling other folk what to do.”
Just a sampling of the fawning, obsequious swill brought to you by Anti-AnusGloryHole and DonaldDavyTurd (DDT). It’s enough to make one vomit .
boney joe on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 1:22 am
Anonymouse1:
Excellent and brutally honest summary of current events and for why the US continues to blunder in the ME.
Remember how the success in quelling the Anbar insurgency was hailed as a turning point and a change of strategy? Then the truth. Nothing complicated. The US simply promised and continues to bribe the Sunni insurgents with regular cash payments. Once the money train derails, and it will, then what?
joe on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 2:03 am
American friends in the mideast are the guys who can pump the oil and keep the millions of darkies from having legitimate democracy that can share the wealth like in other darkies countries or say a south American socialist oilistan. Moralistic fluffery like the above article is only idealism for our western collective souls. Real politik is that the oil must flow and the neofacist chauvinism of sunni extremist Islam will be tolerated by our elites no matter the cost to anyone to keep them in wealth and privilege.
Theedrich on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 2:26 am
Oil + $450 billion from KSA = lifeblood for Yankeeland and its weapons industry. This is all that matters, and the reason the U.S. will continue to stir the witches’ brew in MENA. Until the resulting apocalypse, that is.
Anonymouse1 on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 2:48 am
Exactly dissident. The current narrative being sold to the gullible masses, is plainly false as I said above. The sauds, likely engage in casual murder on a fairly regular basis. The uS and Israel, for their part, keep such activities of their more favored and important satraps, out of the news. One of the fringe benefits of being the local satrap for empire. BUT, something went wrong on this one, and, the ‘story’ got released into the wild. Thus, the spin machine goes into overdrive. The slant to the story suggest the masters of empire are perhaps, unhappy with the current towhead in Riyahd and are using the incident to put some pressure on him. These things happen.
It is also safe to say, that this guy was likely not who, or what, he is being sold and marketed though the ‘news’ as. His ‘criticism’s of the saud puppet regime, were pretty mild and posed exactly zero threat to the House of Towelheads reputation, or hold on power. Not out of line to suggest he was killed for entirely different reasons, having, as dissident also suggests, little to do with his journalism.
Still, the amount of fake outrage and posturing being trumpeted by the ‘free-press’ corporations on this matter, is rather appalling, given the source.
Than again, this is mostly what the media sells these days: Manufactured news, and manufacture outrage.
boney joe on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 2:51 am
As I predicted a few months ago, the Republicans would use the massive federal budget deficits being accrued as a result of the Trump tax cut for the very rich as an excuse to cut our Social Security and Medicare. Here’s the news from yesterday from Newsweek.
“MITCH MCCONNELL CALLS FOR SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE, MEDICAID CUTS AFTER PASSING TAX CUTS, MASSIVE DEFENSE SPENDING
After instituting a $1.5 trillion tax cut and signing off on a $675 billion budget for the Department of Defense, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Tuesday that the only way to lower the record-high federal deficit would be to cut entitlement programs like Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.”
Davy on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 2:55 am
Wow, a-noise decided to say something instead of being a sock cop. Of course it is his usual boring fare and in dialect too. How many times do you need to say the same thing a-noise1. It is almost copy and paste from previous comments. Of course you like what dissident says because he is another virulent Canadian anti-American without a balanced bone in his body.
BTW, your buddies sloppy joe and billy are harping on me about being up tonight. What is your excuse? You are young guy that should be working tomorrow. Just as I suspected you don’t have a job do you? Did you see the glowing praise your buddy sloppy joe lavished on you. Nothing like a low life complimenting another. That really hits the spot on who you are.
Davy on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 3:02 am
“As I predicted a few months ago, the Republicans would use the massive federal budget deficits being accrued as a result of the Trump tax cut”
Ah, sloppy joe, so you are saying obumma had nothing to do with it. LOL
“for the very rich as an excuse to cut our Social Security and Medicare. Here’s the news from yesterday from Newsweek.”
Wow, reading mainstream media fake news. Don’t let billy or your buddy a-noise1 see that sloppy joe. They hate NEWSWEEK. It is pretty lame news outlet anyway. Not really relevant these days. BTW, where is your reference link so your content can be verified?
“After instituting a $1.5 trillion tax cut and signing off on a $675 billion budget for the Department of Defense, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Tuesday that the only way to lower the record-high federal deficit would be to cut entitlement programs like Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.”
He has a point sloppy joe but you are correct the tax cut thing looks bad when he is talking entitlement cuts. You do agree entitlements need to be reformed right? That surely means cut.
Sloppy joe and his democratic extremism and his sloppy comment are some good entertainment tonight. BTW, sloppy, you didn’t tell me why you are not sleeping but you had no problem giving me trouble about it.
Davy on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 3:09 am
“As Trump Approval Hits Record High, Dems Fear Low Millennial, Hispanic Turnout”
https://tinyurl.com/y8kv2qem
“With just two weeks left until the midterm vote, Democrats are worrying that their get-out-the-vote efforts (which have included such novel strategies as catfishing people on twitter) won’t mobilize the two demographic groups that are seen as crucial to a Democratic victory: Young people and Hispanics, per Bloomberg. Meanwhile, the latest Gallup poll shows that support for President Trump surged to 44% during the first two weeks of October, just one percentage point below his personal best, which was reached during his first week in office. Gallup attributed the bump to the contentious confirmation of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, as the decades-old accusations of sexual misconduct apparently galvanized support for the president.”
Don’t worry, sloppy joe, a recession is coming in 2019 and that will likely sink Trumps ship but currently it is a big “HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM” for extremist liberals like sloppy joe.
boney joe on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 3:25 am
Another gem of truth from Davy’s perpetual source of “information”: Zero hedge and Faux News. You know “neutral, fair, and balanced” sources of information-LOL.
“As Trump Approval Hits Record High, Dems Fear Low Millennial, Hispanic Turnout”
https://tinyurl.com/y8kv2qem
The DDT Turd: “Always neutral, fair, and balanced.”
You’re a sad little clown :(//
p.s. How about a financial wager of any amount? Put your money where your mouth is, Turd, or shut-up with the lies and distortions.
Cloggie on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 3:31 am
The article is wrong. It assumes a benevolent hegemon, where in reality there is only a hegemon. The US is not “misguided”, just on the losing end of history. Egypt and KSA have regimes willing to be a US client state, that’s what matters. The Muslim Brotherhood stands for Muslim independence, outside empire, can’t have that.
Turkey and Iran are improving their relations and Turkey supports the MB… as a vehicle of change, in KSA and Egypt. Both Turkey and Iran want regime change in KSA and Egypt and reignite the Arab Spring, nipped in the but by the Egyptian army. Expect the complete decolonization of the ME in the coming years plus Islamic fundamentalism lite a la Erdogan. Israeli hegemony will be history too.
Davy on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 3:37 am
“Another gem of truth from Davy’s perpetual source of “information”: Zero hedge and Faux News. You know “neutral, fair, and balanced” sources of information-LOL.”
Sloppy joe, do you have any references that I posted faux news? I doubt it. Once in a blue moon I post some fox news. You do realize ZH is used by your buddy Billy constantly. You may not realize it but it has multiple sources it draws on just like this site. You probably didn’t because you are a “NEWSWEEK” fan lol.
“The DDT Turd: “Always neutral, fair, and balanced.”
Ah, dumbass, you did see where I said Trumps ship would likely be sunk by recession…right? LOL. You are a classic extremist low life that lies. You need to buddy up to IAM A SLOB. He is a liberal extremist low life like you.
“You’re a sad little clown :(//”
Translation: I am getting nietered by Davy and am without a response so I will do a stupid emoji
“p.s. How about a financial wager of any amount? Put your money where your mouth is, Turd, or shut-up with the lies and distortions.”
LMFAO, now sloppy is really getting desperate. Sloppy joe, are we going to use internet money. OH, maybe sloppy joe has bitcoin. What a dumbass. Sloppy joe go to bed before you look completely like a fool.
boney joe on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 3:38 am
“Christian Post News: Democratic Chances for Control of House Improve Substantially”
On Nov. 6, voters in the United States of America will be going to the polls to determine their local, state, and congressional leadership.
While some hope to see Republicans maintain or even expand their majorities in Congress, others are working on creating a “Blue Wave” that will eventually reverse President Donald Trump’s policy efforts.
Recent findings from websites that analyze and compile polling data indicates an increased likelihood that the Democrats will take control of the House of Representatives.”
Source: The conservative Christian Post
The difference: DavyTurd uses obviously biased sources to present a distorted view. He’s a liar, fraud, and hypocrite. I use a conservative source to ensure solid information.
boney joe on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 3:43 am
DavyTurd:
No, real money. The winner will be honorable and mail payment to the other.
Now, put your money where your mouth is. Make the wager that your side will retain control of the House or shut-up already. Any amount you wish.
Davy on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 4:26 am
“Christian Post News: Democratic Chances for Control of House Improve Substantially”
Sloppy, where is your link so I can check your content? Where are your quotations so we know what part of your comment is from the article and what is from you?
“On Nov. 6, voters in the United States of America will be going to the polls to determine their local, state, and congressional leadership.”
Da WTF, tell us something we don’t know. Quit wasting space
“While some hope to see Republicans maintain or even expand their majorities in Congress, others are working on creating a “Blue Wave” that will eventually reverse President Donald Trump’s policy efforts.”
Blue wave is a dud sloppy joe. If you had a link I could check your reference and check the date.
“Recent findings from websites that analyze and compile polling data indicates an increased likelihood that the Democrats will take control of the House of Representatives.”
Oh, now I see your quotations that ends the content of your reference but sloppy joe it is misleading because we can’t tell in the rest of your comment if you interjected something. Try putting quotations around any content that is not together.
“Source: The conservative Christian Post”
This is not a valid source without a link, stupid and sloppy. Give us a link
“The difference: DavyTurd uses obviously biased sources to present a distorted view. He’s a liar, fraud, and hypocrite. I use a conservative source to ensure solid information.”
Is that all you are contributing sloppy joe? Pretty lame. We know you hate me. BTW, sloppy, this is not a US political site it is an energy and related topics site. Try to get back on topic or go somewhere else. BTW, I really wish the liberals would get their heads out of their asses and offer real options for an independent like me.
“DavyTurd: No, real money. The winner will be honorable and mail payment to the other.”
WTF, sloppy, mail payment…what plaent are you from linertard omega. LMFAO, Get real. We can make a wager and maintain it in our files and revisit it later. What a dumbass.
“Now, put your money where your mouth is. Make the wager that your side will retain control of the House or shut-up already. Any amount you wish.”
I don’t have a side sloppy, and I am not going to bet on the election. We are on an energy site let’s talk energy and bet on something energy related. Get back on topic sloppy joe or go down the street to libertards anonymous.
Davy on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 4:55 am
‘UK Readies Apocalyptic Flotilla Of Emergency Supplies In Case Of “No-Deal” Brexit”
https://tinyurl.com/yd2jbxkq
“The cabinet was told that the heavily used Dover-Calais route could quickly become blocked by new customs controls on the French side, forcing Britain to seek alternative ways of bringing in “critical supplies”. The warnings about the consequences of a disorderly British exit from the EU came at a cabinet meeting which saw ministers divided into two camps over how to unlock a deal in Brussels. One witness said there was “an almighty row”. The prospect of Britain facing shortages of perishable food and medicines provided a bleak backdrop to the cabinet discussions, as Mrs May urged her ministers to back her attempts to secure a breakthrough. –FT”
Graph:
https://tinyurl.com/ybbo5m5d
Neder, you might have a point on this Brexit thing but I think where you are failing to see the whole picture is how this is going to affect the European economy. This is going to devastate your already weak growth.
Cloggie on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 5:15 am
Davy sees a flourishing economy as a good thing. Me in contrast can discern positive things in a global crash, namely the deligitimization of the empire and real geopolitical change (PBM, breakup US). What we need is fighting, for starters to establish water-tight borders, not more consuming.
Davy on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 5:19 am
Come on neder, you constantly down play any financial problems and especially use your binary thinking of Europe will rise like a phoenix and the US be crushed. I think that is an untenable position considering Brexit, Italy, ECB monetary issues. You are going down too neder and it won’t be pretty like you think. It is also going to be really hard on your energy transformation. Notice I didn’t say 100% transition.
Davy on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 7:12 am
“400 bps”: Italy Inadvertently Sets The Red Line For The Coming Bank Run”
https://tinyurl.com/y7nuo2ne
“In what may prove to be a painful admission in retrospect and an inadvertent green light for future bank runs, on Wednesday morning Italy’s Cabinet Undersecretary Giancarlo Giorgetti said in an interview on Italy’s RAI that Italian banks would need a “recapitalization” if the spread with German bonds continues to rise toward 400 basis points, from the current level of 314bps which is just shy of the widest level it has been going back to early 2013. The last time “lo spread” hit 400 bps was in late 2012, around the time of Mario Draghi’s legendary “whatever it takes” speech.”
“Said otherwise, the Italian population will now be even more focused on the spread of Italian bonds, and the higher it grows, the less comfort Italians will have with keeping their savings in local banks, and the more likely bank jogs (and then runs) will become. Having thus set the bogey, Giorgetti then tried to assure the population that such a move would not be needed, as the government would be ready to intervene “immediately” if needed and “won’t wait months as Matteo Renzi’s government did with Monte dei Paschi” although as Berlusconi so fondly remembers, any attempts at intervention will ultimately end up futile if not backstopped by the ECB and/or Brussels.”
boney joe on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 7:32 am
DavyTurd:
I received the highest score ever attained on the Watson Glaser Thinking Appraisal, which means, among other things, I can see right through people and you’re transparent as hell.
DavyTurd, you rank as one of the worst hypocrites and liars ever encountered. I can see that your life has been a failure, which accounts for your frequent outbursts, distortions, and fraud. Additionally, you’re a bully, coward, a hater, and a sexual pervert. You are socially maladaptive, which explains why you have never worked in a group employment scenario. Your business ventures have been miserable failures, for which you blame on others. You demand that everything go your way. You always must have the final word. Anything of value that you have was given to you.
Your writings are a window into your disturbed personality. They reflect and project perfectly like a mirror; the subconscious perceptions that you maintain about self. Your incessant assaults and ranting are a perfect reflection of your present state of mind and how you feel about yourself on the inside. Your resentment, anger and desire for revenge reveal anger and contempt of yourself (self-hating), rooted in jealously, fear, and a sense of failure with who you are, questioning your ability to aptly compete with others.
Now I understand why so many posters see you as a total mental case.
Anontarded1 on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 7:48 am
this guy is a fanboy of muslim brotherhood which we know can not deviate from core muzzie beliefs as evidenced in arab spring
boney joe on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 8:16 am
“You do agree entitlements need to be reformed right? That surely means cut.” DavyTurd
Don’t ever assume that I agree with you. The only reason you support cuts to programs that most Americans rely upon is because it does not effect you on a personal level. You come from White privilege bragging about the family Learjet so you could care less about the poor and disadvantaged. Finally, the truth begins to emerge…..
Eliminate the tax giveaway for the rich and cut the war budget back to a reasonable level and problem solved.
Anontarded1 on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 8:19 am
big brother joe please read about supertard leo 3 this is a repost
https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/leo-iiis-1300-year-old-lesson-understand-islam-to-defeat-jihad/
boney joe on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 8:20 am
DavyTurd:
Still waiting for your reply dumbass. The winner will be honorable and mail payment to the other.
Now, put your money where your mouth is. Make the wager that your side will retain control of the House or shut-up already. Any amount you wish.
Antius on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 9:02 am
Davy has an A-type personality, ‘Boney’. He is independent minded and conservative. He does not respond well to criticism and is sensitive on some subjects. A sure sign of having worries about the future (which is what brings him here) and having taken too much shit from bullies just like you. That doesn’t make him a bad person. He is that way precisely because of shitheads like you. I would not describe him as a bully; he seldom starts bitch fights, but does have trouble dropping them. Your assessment jumps to conclusions for which you have no evidence. Leaving aside psychoanalysis, he provides a positive contribution here; you do not.
You on the other hand, are a bully. You are cruel, harsh, spiteful and unfair. You do not value diversity of opinion, but are clearly threatened by it. You display spite and anger that would be terrifying in anyone I had to meet in the real world. You have no manners and in spite of your criticism of others as ‘haters’ you display exactly the qualities you claim to criticise. Most of the shit you attribute to Davy is a reflection of your own rage and disappointment and your desire to find fault in others rather than face your own angry demons.
It always amazes me that people who claim to be skilled in psychoanalysis lack any power of introspection. Here you are venting spite at anyone not sharing your own peculiar ideals; bullying and trying to intimidate them. It doesn’t work so well on an anonymous internet forum but it is still distasteful to watch. What does your ‘highest score ever attained on the Watson Glaser Thinking Appraisal’ tell you about your own personality? Do you have the courage to take a hard look at yourself?
shortonoil on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 11:35 am
Well, so much for the Monday morning quarter backs, and back of the Cracker Jacks Box trained psychoanalysts. So why was Khashoggi murdered? The Middle East is oil, said and done. It would take a pile of camel dung, and dates the size of the moon to equal one day of its petroleum production. Throw in Islam, and we have a heap of oily, paranoid spook chasers that are likely to go Postal at the next community mosque shindig. Khashoggi knew something, and he was in a position to broadcast it. Most likely it had something to do with oil; because that is the only thing in the Middle East that can threaten the status quo. As far as the US is concerned it is always on the right side; the side that can deliver the oil. That is why it keeps the largest military force in the world real real close to it. Khashoggi knew something, and threatened to use it. The Middle Eastern fields are on their last leg, and Prince Chief Camel Jockey #8 wasn’t taking any chances that he was going to announce it. Now, in typical Saudi fashion, they have screwed it up, and we will hear every story that can be conceived, but the one that really matters.
Anonymouse1 on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 1:01 pm
Dumbass has a Type-D ‘personality’, Anus.
Delusional. End of story.
As always, the socks puppets here find it important to try and protect the fragile ego of one extremist nutcase. The exceptionalturd, and the rest of the socks, need to be under supervised care, not being told he a has a personality.
Davy on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 1:07 pm
Detective sock cop speaks.lol. A-noise1 get a hobby or something.
Dredd on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 6:26 pm
He was killed because murder is inevitable when tyranny is born to a despotic minority (On The Origin of Tyranny).
The rulers of Saudi Arabia are a despotic minority.
boney joe on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 11:37 pm
Anus-
I worked for one of the world’s largest risk management providers based in London. I retired with the position of Executive Vice President. To qualify for an officer position in the company, the applicant is required to undergo a series of intelligence and personality appraisals. So, yeah Anus, I know my personality strengths and weaknesses. My last assignment was as a division head and I can also tell you that you and your carbon copy Turd would not have lasted one work day, although most certainly pre-employment testing would have disqualified you first.
Antius on Thu, 25th Oct 2018 4:04 am
“Anus-
I worked for one of the world’s largest risk management providers based in London. I retired with the position of Executive Vice President. To qualify for an officer position in the company, the applicant is required to undergo a series of intelligence and personality appraisals. So, yeah Anus, I know my personality strengths and weaknesses. My last assignment was as a division head and I can also tell you that you and your carbon copy Turd would not have lasted one work day, although most certainly pre-employment testing would have disqualified you first.”
Once again, I will assume that this is intended for me. If you are telling the truth about your career path, then we aren’t as different as you might think. I am in my thirties, a long way from retirement, so would imagine you are twenty or more years ahead of me.
If the anger you display on this board is at all reflected in the face you show the outside world, I think you would struggle to pass any psych evaluation. Maybe things have gotten worse with time? It is one aspect that you do share with Davy. You both lash out and have a tendency to be insulting towards people you don’t agree with. He at least occasionally knows when to rein it in and has a useful story to tell when it comes to energy transition, which is the bread and butter of this site.
Calling me ‘Anus’ and calling Davy ‘Turd’, amongst other things, demonstrates a lack of emotional maturity and a bullying streak that I would not expect to see in a trained professional; especially one with management responsibility over other people. Your posts contain a lot more slander than logical argument. You do not come across as someone that would cope well with stress or difficult social situations. One of the first things I was taught as a line manager was the importance of valuing diversity of opinion.
I too had to go through personality and aptitude tests to do my job. They do not share the results, but I wouldn’t be where I am if they had any serious concerns.
I too had to go through personality and aptitude tests to do my job. They do not share the results, but I wouldn’t be where I am if they had any serious concerns.
makati1 on Thu, 25th Oct 2018 4:19 am
Many here claim intelligence, maturity, education, experience, etc. But when they comment, or offer rebuttals, their true self comes out. Some have switched to sock puppets, but they don’t realize that their old persona shines thru. The same word usage, type of putdown, childish bullying, brainwashing, etc. is blatant. They can run, but they cannot hide.
Davy on Thu, 25th Oct 2018 5:35 am
STFU billy, you love when the board is in turmoil. We all know who that comment is pointed to. It is not your friends that are the main perpetrators that’s for sure. You guys swap spit daily in glowing praise. Sick. If it gets quiet and you have a chance you start doing your stupid childish attacks. You flood this board daily with your personal agenda that is warped like your personality. You are a lonely old man who has no life anymore. You live off a slim stipend in a third world country in a little village in the Philippines. You claim this give you the heartbeat of Asia but the reality is you are in the cross hairs of natural disaster in an overpopulated country. Super typhoons are in your future and with them an eventual return to the US. If a natural disaster does not get you then assisted living is in your future if you live that long.
Duncan Idaho on Thu, 25th Oct 2018 10:06 am
“A time will come when a politician who has willfully made war and promoted international dissension will be as sure of the dock and much surer of the noose than a private homicide. It is not reasonable that those who gamble with men’s lives should not stake their own. ”
-H. G. Wells
Antius on Thu, 25th Oct 2018 10:55 am
You people bore the hell out of me with all of your bickering and silly attacks on one another. Meaningless drivel that no one wants to listen to. None of you spend any time discussing real issues anymore. It is high time I started my own blog.
onlooker on Thu, 25th Oct 2018 10:59 am
Yes Duncan,the biggest criminals wear three piece suits and rarely face justice
Cloggie on Thu, 25th Oct 2018 12:13 pm
“You people bore the hell out of me with all of your bickering and silly attacks on one another. Meaningless drivel that no one wants to listen to. None of you spend any time discussing real issues anymore. It is high time I started my own blog.”
Why do you think I have no comment section on my blog?
Blogging is fun btw. And if you want 20,000 hits per month, add white nationalist content. I know from experience.
Davy on Thu, 25th Oct 2018 12:24 pm
neder, someone is hijacking handles so take what Antius said above as likely from the board deviant.
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 25th Oct 2018 12:31 pm
Clogg
20k hits from the lowest IQ white people on the internet!
I am glad you are proud of yourself..
LMFAO!
Anontarded1 on Thu, 25th Oct 2018 1:13 pm
^mm^ too much violence caused by trump blamed on peaceful muslims. if someone shoots spencer it hardly makes news.
Anontarded1 on Thu, 25th Oct 2018 1:28 pm
ok earlier i said this but now i said i’ll reversed my position. i now say MB is good.
I no longer fear muslims. i won’t visit jihadwatch and thereligionofpeace anymore. there are bullies there who drive me off.
i will research supertard john esposito
so if islam is not supremacism the only thing left is white supremacy
Anontarded1 on Wed, 24th Oct 2018 7:48 am
this guy is a fanboy of muslim brotherhood which we know can not deviate from core muzzie beliefs as evidenced in arab spring
Antius on Thu, 25th Oct 2018 5:09 pm
It’s early days, but it is beginning to look like the Dems may be toast in the mid terms.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-25/nbc-admits-blue-wave-turning-purple-republicans-outnumber-dems-early-voting
The civilisation wreckers’ won’t be doing any wrecking for a couple of years at least; hopefully, for longer than that. The Donald has 24 months to slay the Jewish demon.
Cloggie on Thu, 25th Oct 2018 8:47 pm
“I worked for one of the world’s largest risk management providers based in London. I retired with the position of Executive Vice President.”
I don’t believe that for a second, boney joel. People with a purpose do not waste time on the internet stalking anonymouse people they hate.
“The civilisation wreckers’ won’t be doing any wrecking for a couple of years at least; hopefully, for longer than that. The Donald has 24 months to slay the Jewish demon.”
The public is eating from his hand now. Incredible how he managed to set up the public against the media, the core tool of the deep state. “Poor CNN”, they no longer control all the information channels, they are now outtwittered, out-HTTP-ed.
In the mean time, the brown mob is approaching the US border, a mob that can’t live without white man after all, half a century after decolonization. Decolonization that never should have happened, but happened on orders of the US, that is about to drown in said colored mob. Born slaves, headed by George Soros, who smells his chance to use these masses as a weapon against us. The US version of…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Camp_of_the_Saints
This can only end in an explosion of violence. White folks will soon openly carry guns again, like in the days of the Wild West.
“You go left, I go right, we’ll cut them off at the pass”.
Trump doesn’t have eternal life. Demography marches on unstoppable. His presidency will initiate the split between the white right and the rest of the country. Manifest Destiny will go in reverse gear. The Great Anglo Overlord will fall apart and ZOG will come to an end. It will begin around the end of Trump’s presidency.
Europe will see what happens in America and “populism” will turn into the hard right and take over from the libtard 1968-generation. Civilization will have to be reinvented.
Cloggie on Thu, 25th Oct 2018 8:53 pm
“Why Jamal Khashoggi Was Killed”
K. was not a journalist, but a hired gun of (((Jeff Besos))) WaPo, no doubt for political reasons. Associations with…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Chalabi
…impose themselves.
Was K. used by US oligarchs for regime change in KSA? Probably. The Saudis panicked and got rid of him.
boney joe on Thu, 25th Oct 2018 9:58 pm
Anti-Anus
Sorry for failing to include your complete name.
I strongly suggest you take your laser like criticism and morally haughty tone and focus it on yourself. You’ll find a Dr. Jekyll // Mr. Hyde personality type.
“You people bore the hell out of me with all of your bickering and silly attacks on one another. Meaningless drivel that no one wants to listen to. None of you spend any time discussing real issues anymore. It is high time I started my own blog.”
Good grief, start with yourself before making criticisms of same to others.
Great idea starting your own blog, but it will never happen.
boney joe on Thu, 25th Oct 2018 10:05 pm
Anti-Anus
“It’s early days, but it is beginning to look like the Dems may be toast in the mid terms.”
I know this is what you are hoping, but your clone already shared this ZeroHedge source. Btw, I added your prediction to a running list of your other brilliant prognostications. Time will tell just how much of a fool you really are.
By the way, since you know with confidence how the election will turn out, than you are willing to make a wager, right? Put your money where your mouth is.
Cloggie on Fri, 26th Oct 2018 8:39 am
Kashoggie had an uncle, a notorious arms trader:
https://twitter.com/DaanDeWit/status/1055815084897910789?s=20
Anontarded1 on Fri, 26th Oct 2018 8:46 am
neder please because of the intardweb that supertards built for me to enjoy your ideas aren’t worth all that much anymore. your blog is boring and you constantly need other medium to spread it and gain new recruits. that’s wy supertards banned alt-tard media and it crashed into earth. if someone shoots spencer it hardly makes news.
supertard ((richard stallmann)) fought for freedom to create software before any tard understood why it’s importnat. nowadays the GNU stack runs the intardweb that we all enjoy.