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Why America wants a war with Russia

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Just recently I saw this innocent question asked on Moon of Alabama’s website, and decided to post a reply:

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/02/russian-bots-how-an-anti-russian-lobby-creates-fake-news.html

“For the life of me I cannot figure why Americans want a war/conflict with Russia.”

Ever since US Crude Oil production peaked in 1970, the US has known that at some point the oil majors would have their profitability damaged, “assets” downgraded, and borrowing capacity destroyed.  At this point their shares would become worthless and they would be bankrupt. The contagion from this would immediately spread to airlines, transport businesses, plastics manufacture, herbicides and pesticide production and a total implosion of Industrial Civilisation.

In anticipation of increasing Crude Oil imports, Nixon stopped the convertibility of Dollars into Gold, thus making the Dollar entirely fiat, allowing them to print as much of the currency as they needed.

They also began a system of obscuring oil production data, involving the DoE’s EIA and the OECD’s IEA, by inventing an ever-increasing category of Undiscovered Oilfields in their predictions, and combining Crude Oil and Condensate (from gas fields) into one category (C+C) as if they were the same thing. As well the support of the ethanol-from-corn industry began, even though it was uneconomic.  The Global Warming problem had to be debunked, despite its sound scientific basis.  Energy-intensive manufacturing work was off-shored to cheap labour+energy countries, and Just-in-Time delivery systems were honed.

In 2004 the price of Crude Oil rose from $28 /barrel up to $143 /b in mid-2008. This demonstrated that there is a limit to how much business can pay for oil (around $100 /b). Fracking became marginally economic at these prices, but the frackers never made a profit as over-production meant prices fell to about $60 /b.  The Government encourages this destructive industry despite the fact it doesn’t make any money, because the alternative is the end of Industrial Civilisation.

Eventually though, there must come a time when there is not enough oil to power all the cars and trucks, bulldozers, farm tractors, airplanes and ships, as well as manufacture all the wind turbines and solar panels and electric vehicles, as well as the upgraded transmission grid.

At that point, the game will be up, and it will be time for WW3 and a War Economy.  So we need to line up some really big enemies, and develop lots of reasons to hate them.  Thus you see the demonisation of Russia, China, Iran and Venezuela for reasons that don’t make sense from a normal perspective.

palloy.earth



125 Comments on "Why America wants a war with Russia"

  1. MASTERMIND on Sat, 24th Feb 2018 1:08 pm 

    Clogg

    Your sources are laughable! youtube videos and a random blog…LOL you are so dumb

  2. MASTERMIND on Sat, 24th Feb 2018 1:20 pm 

    Hey look its clogg!
    https://imgur.com/a/bbOTk#E02hfdH

  3. Davy on Sat, 24th Feb 2018 1:36 pm 

    Disgusting Nazi lover pukes his guts. Start your own blog why don’t you neder Nazi. You soil this blog with your drivel.

  4. Cloggie on Sat, 24th Feb 2018 2:12 pm 

    I foresee a big friendship developing between millimind and davy. davy must regret he voted for the Donald. Such a natzi-thing to do. davy is now entirely back in the NWO-coral, without realizing that not even his owners believe in the NWO anymore.

  5. Anonymouse1 on Sat, 24th Feb 2018 2:22 pm 

    Not sure why have such a problem with cloggrahams ‘nazism’, exceptionalist. Jews make the best nazis, hell, they are far better nazis than actual nazis by a long shot. Just like you you, exceptiolist, you soft-peddle and endorse amero-israeli mass-murder, war genocide, miliaritism just to name a few. cloggen-fraud ‘works’ (lol), for the same gang of overlords you admire so much. Same group, different department. However, cloggen-tard is so inept I doubt they actually pay him anything his fake persona dirahearas out here. They probably just take notes.

    In any event, posturing as some kind of nazi hating crusader is absolutely hilarious coming from you exceptionalist. Easily the second most prolific and militant, pro-israeli nazis here. All the other retards, boatwetard, plant, bobintard, narrativeman etc, cant hold a candle to either of you.

    I imagine that fact that you have gone stark-raving mad helps eh? Keeps all those circles squared.

    What a dumbass, and a poser too.

  6. Davy on Sat, 24th Feb 2018 2:33 pm 

    Numbnut, I don’t chum people here like you do. I am not here to make friends. I am here to neuter asswipes like you who bastardized the truth. You and your dumbass Nazi colleagues can play grab ass all you like. I follow my own drum beat.

  7. MASTERMIND on Sat, 24th Feb 2018 2:33 pm 

    White House Considering Confiscating Guns From “Dangerous People”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-24/white-house-said-to-consider-protection-orders-to-curb-shootings

  8. MASTERMIND on Sat, 24th Feb 2018 2:35 pm 

    White House Considering Confiscating Guns From “Dangerous People”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-24/white-house-said-to-consider-protection-orders-to-curb-shootings

    Obama finally is going to get those guns by using Trump!

  9. Davy on Sat, 24th Feb 2018 2:39 pm 

    Weasel, why do you talk like a dork? I picture you as a frail ugly little shit that needs an ass kickin. Did you get bullied in school? I can see you like that not that I am into bullying but some people just attract it. You seem like that type. I see you as a disgusting person with very little human contact. I see you alone somewhere spreading hate and resentment in a dark corner of your parents basement.

  10. Cloggie on Sat, 24th Feb 2018 2:53 pm 

    “You and your dumbass Nazi colleagues”

    Davy accuses anonymouse1 of being a nazi and anonymouse1 has somehow planted the thought in his head a long time ago that I am kosher.

    It is getting ever more hilarious.

  11. Davy on Sat, 24th Feb 2018 3:37 pm 

    Anonymous is a weasel. Weasels are waste cases. You ignore them if you can because they have no purpose. They are an irritation, like an annoying insect. You are a Nazi. Nazi need the shit slapped out of them mentally. The both of you are disgusting examples of depraved humans.

  12. TheNationalist on Sat, 24th Feb 2018 6:18 pm 

    I don’t believe being a nationalist makes you a ‘nazi’. That is just ridiculous, I enjoy watching all cultures nourish their independence and like to see the many threatened languages survive around the world.
    Don’t forget globalism seeks to disempower us all and people like Davy seem very confused.
    In the one hand blaming ól whitey for everything and then saying we are ‘nuthin special’. I’m sorry but all the evidence says otherwise and the whites are one of the few ethnic groups with the cultural wherewithal to stand up to our globalist overlords. Hence the attacks, I must say it is a shame all the infighting occurs on this website and the speedy and petty decline into squabbling is like a bunch of schoolgirls. The zionists would smirk at such a thing no?

  13. Davy on Sat, 24th Feb 2018 6:32 pm 

    “I don’t believe being a nationalist makes you a ‘nazi’.”
    Never said that

    “Don’t forget globalism seeks to disempower us all and people like Davy seem very confused.”
    Confused? About what?

    “In the one hand blaming ól whitey for everything and then saying we are ‘nuthin special’.”
    Ahh, well the problem is with ol’ whiteys who think they have no blame. That is what I am talking about. Yea, as white old man I am tired of feminism and black lives matter BS but also ol whining whiteys claiming they are being victimized.

    “I’m sorry but all the evidence says otherwise and the whites are one of the few ethnic groups with the cultural wherewithal to stand up to our globalist overlords.”
    Conspiracy BS

    “Hence the attacks, I must say it is a shame all the infighting occurs on this website and the speedy and petty decline into squabbling is like a bunch of schoolgirls.”
    Join the human race this is all we have these days where ever you go. This site is replete with whiners that whine about attacks as they attack. Yea, I am to blame but I admit to it. I am here to spit in people’s faces until they quit spitting.

    “the zionists would smirk at such a thing no?”
    Who cares about Zionist? You know any? I know some Jews here and there. They are nothing special. Nothing to be afraid of.

  14. Anonymouse1 on Sat, 24th Feb 2018 6:36 pm 

    No, cloggen-berg, you are not a ‘plant’. Plants are far more intelligent, and useful than you ever could be. Plants absorb Co2, and help produce breathable air. You OTOH, just consume air and crap. Your boyfriend, the exceptionalist, for his part, is just plain nuts. A wack-job. No wonder it was love at first sight for you two.

  15. Davy on Sat, 24th Feb 2018 6:42 pm 

    DORK

  16. Duncan Idaho on Sat, 24th Feb 2018 6:56 pm 

    Natures way of telling you—-
    http://sites.uci.edu/zlabe/files/2018/01/TAS_Arctic_NCEP_OctDec17_composite.gif

  17. MASTERMIND on Sat, 24th Feb 2018 9:10 pm 

    Nationalist

    You think whites are supurior? Too much imbreading (Cousin Marriages) and beating their children (Spanking)..Has lowered ole whitey’s IQ substantially!

    https://imgur.com/a/uCpmV

  18. TheNationalist on Sat, 24th Feb 2018 11:47 pm 

    I’m surprised a marxist would raise the issue of I.Q and try to use it against white people. How odd, you need to read more medical journals from the U.N. etc.
    I suppose you don’t appreciate anything you are surrounded with in America either, a modern nation built by the Europeans.
    WE WAZ KANGZ ? GNOMESAYIN?

  19. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 12:10 am 

    Nationalist

    Asian peoples IQ’S are much higher than white peoples…You white nationalist always bring up the IQ argument to prove you are so much better than the blacks…Yet you always ignore Asian’s are much higher than whites..

  20. TheNationalist on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 2:46 am 

    You started the I.Q. line of argument. Actually you will find it is only certain asian countries at 110 average. Northern Europe is 105 and then there is a huge gap to everyone else. Sub Saharan Africans for example have shown to be what would be regarded as borderline retard level in Northern Europe or parts of Asia.
    You bring up inbreeding in small groups of retarded whites but ignore the systematic inbreeding between cousins in the muslim world. The Pakistanis in the UK are a good example of borderline retard level intellects and cultural inbreeding with first cousin marriages being very common for example. Typical of you to ignore the muslim world and attack Europeans for inbreeding. That is just a ridiculous thing to bring up, on a global scale there is just no comparison.
    P.S. at least óle whitey can actually drive a car without crashing!, even with our dimmer minds!

  21. Cloggie on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 3:55 am 

    The 2018 Winter Olympics are over and the results are in:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Winter_Olympics_medal_table

    Is it possible to interpret these figures into the realm of geopolitics?

    Gold medals (Population base)

    Europe-post-Brexit – 67 (440 million)
    Anglosphere – 21 (455 million)
    Korea – 5 (76 million)
    Japan – 4 (127 million)
    Russia – 2 (145 million)
    China – 1 (1403 million)

    Conclusions: despite all the talk about rising Asia, the Winter Olympics are still a white affair, pun intended, which is not that surprising, given that black folks love to call us “the ice people”. The Chinese results are simply embarrassing. Russia, very disappointing. Japan, the “Germans of East-Asia” is still on Asian top, if you ignore host Korea.

    Yet most interesting (in my “European supremacist” eyes, or “Natzi” for short.lol) is the difference between Anglosphere (“Five Eyes”) and continental Europe.

    As has been discussed satisfactorily in this thread, (((Anglosphere))), thanks to its 1933-1946 alliance with the (((USSR))), managed to destroy and colonize Europe in 1945 (forget about morals, that’s for the television-boobs like Davy). Anglosphere and USSR could geopolitically destroy Europe, so they did and take over its #1 place in the geopolitical pecking order (thanks WC!) and terminate 4 centuries of European global dominance:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/20160612_nothing.jpg

    That’s how things work in an essentially Darwinian world. It is like the Olympics: you may stand on top of the podium with your gold medal, but the guys left and right of you and their shabby silver and bronze medals are already contemplating how they can manage to topple you and take your place.

    So, Anglosphere has a slightly larger population base than continental Europe. All five Anglo countries have excellent skying and ice-rink facilities, even sunny (sub)-tropical swimming super power Australia. Additionally they have more money per capita to spend on secondary activities like sports than Europeans (#ReserveCurrency).

    So how come they score less than 1/3 of continental Europe?

    My interpretation: demoralization as a result of the declining geopolitical significance. You just have to read the posts on this board to get get a grasp of Anglo-pessimism, which Anglos seek to hide behind a face-saving but shaky peak-oil narrative.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/27/donald-trump-says-us-never-wins-wars-anymore/

    Juncker: “English is losing importance”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A4q1ap2NGA

    (Notice the glee with which RussiaToday picks up this tidbit. Russia aspires to become a new Great European nation, next to Germany and France and they will)

    [part 1]

  22. Cloggie on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 3:55 am 

    Why are Anglos demoralized? Because they are going to fail their calling of global supremacy that came into being in 1891, when the British deep state made the fundamental geopolitical decision that they were definately not continental European, but committed to the “superiority of the Anglo-Saxon race”. Britain noticed they were losing the economic and geopolitical competition with the new founded united Germany. Without war, the 20th century would have been the German century, but it came differently, thanks to the British. Here you see a diagram of the British deep state in 1891, based on the work of the American writer Carroll Quigley, as well as links to those parties (France, Russia and US), who the British deep state thought could be instrumentalized in the intended destruction of Germany, in order to save British geopolitical pre-eminence:

    https://deepresource.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/secret-elite.jpg

    But all the British achieved was the destruction of Europe, themselves included, with the USA and USSR as laughing thirds. Although in hindsight it must be said that the British prefer to lose from Americans rather than from the Germans. The British would even prefer being absorbed into Anglosphere (like now), rather than power-sharing with the Germans, the prefered German option between 1920-1941. As the Brexit referendum has shown (although a close call 48:52), the British prefer to see themselves as Anglos, much more than Europeans. If put to the test THAT figure (Anglo vs European) would be far greater than 48:52.

    The Anglos are on the way out, after two centuries of Anglo dominance (UK/US). But just like a human gets a century at most and makes himself a laughing stock if he opts for a “second century” (as aspired by the British in 1891 and neocons in 1991), it won’t be different with the current top dog USA. The final nail in the Anglo coffin will be 1) the coming continental European alliance of 640 million, 2) the rise of China to become the new #1 economic powerhouse and last but not least 3) Anglos having enough of becoming a third world country as a result of the globalist schemes of the US deep state, that no longer is Anglo-Saxon but Anglo-Zionist (with the latter in the driving seat). Especially Americans of continental Europeans descent will be tempted to leave the union and accept a junior role in the loving protecting arms of their older brothers in continental Europe, who simply have more “identitarian reserves” (Natzi-alert.lol) than their younger brothers from disintegrating “nation” of immigrants Anglosphere.

    [part 2]

  23. Cloggie on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 4:34 am 

    Good news for Britain: Germany did NOT win the Olympics, Norway did:

    1. Norway (NOR) 14
    2. Germany (GER) 14
    3. Canada (CAN) 11
    4. United States (USA) 9
    5. Netherlands (NED) 8
    6. Sweden (SWE) 7
    7. South Korea (KOR) 5
    8. Switzerland (SUI) 5
    9. France (FRA) 5
    10. Austria (AUT) 5
    11. Japan (JPN) 4

    Again countries with the best geophysical conditions for Winter Olympics, Norway of 5 million and Canada of 35 million, were prominent in the medal table.

    For me personally the Olympics turned out to be a drama as Holland, like 4 years ago, did not manage to beat the US, although again it was very close (1 gold medal difference):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Winter_Olympics_medal_table

    It is just like with agrarian exports, we (17 million, Olympic team size 34) just can’t beat these natural born winners (330 million, team size 242)

    https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-american-food-giant-the-largest-exporter-of-food-in-the-world.html

    Why is that? Because we have no mountains, so we have to solely rely on speed-skating, with which we win everything. In fact the competition in Holland is so stiff that some speed skaters “flee” to other countries and prop up their national teams, like Gerd-Jan Bloemen (“Gerd-Jan Flowers”.lol) who scored a gold medal for Canada.

    So what is an over-ambitious Dutchman to do in order to defeat his enemies? Simple, build a mountain:

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/peak-of-insanity-dutch-dream-of-building-artificial-mountain-a-784085.html

    OK, it will come at a price…

    http://www.businessinsider.com/400-billion-manmade-mountain-netherlands-2011-8?international=true&r=US&IR=T

    …but as Madeline Albright uses to say in these case: “it is worth it”.

    So expect the Dutch to ram everybody into submission after the completion of The Dutch Mountain, some day, as if the 17th century never ended.

  24. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 4:50 am 

    Clogg

    Stop spamming this site with your nutter conspiracy theories…You god damn retard! Take your bullshit to infowars dot com you fucking imbecile! Nobody ever reads or believes your nutter blog sources.

  25. Cloggie on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 4:58 am 

    Stop spamming this site with your nutter conspiracy theories…You god damn retard! Take your bullshit to infowars dot com you fucking imbecile! Nobody ever reads or believes your nutter blog sources.

    Apparently you DO read my posts.lol

    So why don’t you address my “conspiracy theories”, like Davy doesn’t? Because you have nothing to say against them?

    Asking the question is answering it.

  26. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 5:12 am 

    Clogg

    Why don’t I address them? Because I dont care about them at all. I come to this blog to talk energy and economics. That is why i dont understand why you are here.

  27. Davy on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 5:16 am 

    Who friggen cares about the winter Olympics. I am not saying it is a joke but using it to justify a nation’s greatness or not is stupid. The above goofy 2 part series is from a Nazi who is obsessed with his nation’s (and regions) failures. He spends an inordinate time trying to promote his peoples as great and everyone else bellow them. This is a subconscious attempt to project superhuman qualities of these people who are not anything special. He wants a new pan Euro Empire to rule the earth. He then has the audacity to whine about globalist who want the same power hungry goals. This is a narcissistic sickness. He is obviously self-absorbed with an inferiority complex. His people are definitely 20th century failures and today they are not super human like as he wants everyone to believe.

    The board Nazi needs to start his own blog. He needs to quit packing the board with his adverts for Eurotardism. He is an example what is wrong with Europe not what its future should be based on. I know what good Europe is. One of my best friends is Dutch. My wife is Italian and my daughter who grew up in Madrid is ¼ Spanish and ¼ French. I lived and worked in German and have close friends there.

    You don’t see me saying how wonderful the US is although I get accused of being a flag waiver. I am defending myself and country against unjust and extreme anti-Americanism. I have a backbone on an American critical site. I am upset with what the US has become. I am a doomer and prepper that believes the world will enter a decline and decentralize by force of nature. I want localism with a smaller and simpler world. There is a huge difference between the neder Nazi and I.

  28. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 5:18 am 

    Davy

    He wants a new pan Euro Empire to rule the earth. He then has the audacity to whine about globalist who want the same power hungry goals.

    LOL oh snap! You nailed it

  29. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 5:22 am 

    Davy

    Prepping is futile!

    Myth: Well-prepared individuals, groups, and communities will survive our impending collapse and maintain healthy, fulfilling, and productive lives in its aftermath.
    Reality: Those who survive our collapse will be those who can obtain sufficient life sustaining essentials—especially clean water and food—on a continuous basis, both during and after collapse. Those who store large quantities of these essentials and those who attempt to produce food, either individually or in communities, will be easy targets for the vast majority who have neither the foresight to store nor the skills to produce. No matter how remote or secluded your sanctuary, somebody will know about it; and they will come to call when they become desperate; and they will be well armed and devoid of compassion. You can prepare for a last stand, but you cannot prepare for post-collapse survival. Post-collapse Life Will Be Preferable to Our Industrial Lifestyle Paradigm.

    Myth: Industrialization has brought nothing but misery and degradation to the human race; our quality of life (and spiritual wellbeing) will improve substantially in a post-collapse world.

    Reality: The post-collapse lifestyle awaiting the few who survive will, under the best of circumstances, share many attributes with pre-Columbian America. Unfortunately, the realities associated with subsistence level existence bear little semblance to the Hollywood accounts. Those who anxiously await our post-collapse world will be disappointed, assuming they live to experience it. The fact that nobody is opting to jettison the amenities afforded by an industrialized way of life in favor of a hunter-gatherer lifestyle today should be sufficient proof that our future way of life is not something to be anticipated. Industrialism is not inherently “evil” or immoral; it is simply physically impossible going forward.

  30. Cloggie on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 5:22 am 

    Why don’t I address them? Because I dont care about them at all.

    Yes you do, you are raging mad, because you know they are true and you hate it to see them articulated.

    Right apneaman, uh, I mean millimind?

  31. Davy on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 5:27 am 

    “So why don’t you address my “conspiracy theories”, like Davy doesn’t? Because you have nothing to say against them?”

    What kind of rational is that? I don’t waste time with nutters. You have been spamming this board for years now. Same shit different day. If your conspiracy theories were true the world would be different it isn’t. This is not a Nazi holocaust denying Eurotard apologetic site. You want to dominate this site with regurgitate. You pressure topics and pack the board with your shit. DISGUSTING nazi shit.

  32. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 5:31 am 

    Davy

    This is how you treat a Nazi
    https://i.imgur.com/PVa60tN.gifv

  33. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 5:34 am 

    Here is the king of the alt right!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlUxCsQMuwY

    LOL these nationalist are the laughing stock of the internet!

  34. Davy on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 5:43 am 

    “Prepping is futile!”
    BS, you have no clue what kind of collapse is coming. You are a default mad max mad man who does not have a big enough brain to realize collapse is a process. It has scale in regards to location, time, and degree/duration. I guess you don’t own any insurance either. I guess you don’t practice risk management either. Yea, sounds like you live in mom’s basement one of those full time professional students.

    “Myth: Well-prepared individuals, groups, and communities will survive our impending collapse and maintain healthy, fulfilling, and productive lives in its aftermath.”
    Where did I say that was my myth? I didn’t because I am a realist but also one who says we need to try to live differently so we are more sustainable and resilient in the coming decline. If it civilization ends quickly maybe you will get lucky but more likely your prepping will buy you a few months. During those few months you will have time to at least think and plan on what to do and where to go.

    “Myth: Industrialization has brought nothing but misery and degradation to the human race; our quality of life (and spiritual wellbeing) will improve substantially in a post-collapse world.”
    Industrialization has gone too far. We do not have the wisdom to say no to this. We only say yes to “MOAR” of technology and efficiency. We are dehumanizing ourselves. I am say we need to say no more and learn to live with less. I am saying we need to embrace the past and take what is good from today and combine it in a hybrid lifestyle focused on preparing for a paradigm of decline. This means strength training and learning for less affluence. What is wrong with that? It is called a diet from “too much of everything”

    “Reality: The post-collapse lifestyle awaiting the few who survive will, under the best of circumstances, share many attributes with pre-Columbian America. Unfortunately, the realities associated with subsistence level existence bear little semblance to the Hollywood accounts.”
    No shit Sherlock subsistence living is not possible like it once was but it can assist when the world declines and decays. You are nothing but a quick collapse doomer. Where is it written this is what will happen? Do you have a crystal ball? It might and it can but it is not the default “will”. The reason you don’t acknowledge a long emergency is you are doing nothing. That is how you justify doing nothing by saying it is futile and there is only one scenario of quick immediate collapse. We have had your type here for years claiming prepping is futile and they are always your type. You are just a lazy whining type who bashes people who try to strengthen their lives.

  35. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 5:53 am 

    Davy

    The collapse has been going on since the 1970’s. And once the oil starts to run out the MIT limits to growth economic collapse will hit…And then you are fucked on a farm! You stupid redneck!

    Scientific American: Apocalypse Soon: Has Civilization Passed the Environmental Point of No Return?
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/apocalypse-soon-has-civilization-passed-the-environmental-point-of-no-return/

    Peer Reviewed Study: Society Could Collapse In A Decade, Predicts Historian (Turchin, 2010)
    https://www.nature.com/articles/463608a

    NASA Peer Reviewed Study: Industrial Civilization is Headed for Irreversible Collapse (Motesharrei, 2014)
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800914000615

    The Royal Society: Peer Reviewed Study, Now for the First Time A Global Collapse Appears Likely (Ehrlich, 2013)
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3574335/

    Peer Reviewed Study: Limits to Growth was Right. Research Shows We’re Nearing Global Collapse (Turner, 2014)
    http://sustainable.unimelb.edu.au/sites/default/files/docs/MSSI-ResearchPaper-4_Turner_2014.pdf

    Peer Reviewed Study: Financial System Supply-Chain Cross-Contagion: Global Systemic Collapse (Korowicz, 2012)
    http://www.feasta.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Trade-Off1.pdf

    Be a fucking man Davy stop being an idiot prepper! You people are the laughing stock of America…We are not going back to a localized system..

  36. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 5:58 am 

    Davy

    You are outnumbered by a million to one by the unprepared! And good luck protecting a farm when the economic collapse hits..Its like a castle with no walls..See I have several scholarly sources to argue you have nothing but blind ignorance and faith! And you must not spend too much time prepping you spend so much time writing word salad rants arguing insults with stupid people like clogg.

  37. TheNationalist on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 5:59 am 

    Hello again my friendly marxists, nazis and nutters!!
    Hello Cloogie, Spain wasn’t destroyed by WW2 and is very popular with us Brits. I could see myself on a Spanish beach actually with a cold beer. I could even call myself yooroppeean if it made you feel any better.
    I did watch the winter olympics and wanted Germany to pip Norway but the Norwegians won the cross country right at the end!
    Oh but I must admit I did enjoy seeing Russia win the ice hockey. The IOC reaction to doping is bizarre, almost like Russia invented doping or something. Lance Armstrong anyone? or is that too far back for the unwashed peasant masses to cast their mind back too?.
    I am going skiing this winter in our lovely Australian alps. Yipeeee.

    Oh by the everyone this is the topic we are supposed to be discussing:

    Peak oil is the theorized point in time when the maximum rate of extraction of petroleum is reached, after which it is expected to enter terminal decline. Peak oil theory is based on the observed rise, peak, fall, and depletion of aggregate production rate in oil fields over time. It is often confused with oil depletion; however, …

  38. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 6:01 am 

    Attention Doomie Preppers!

    Good luck surviving when these nuke plants melt down…
    https://imgur.com/a/umBbj

  39. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 6:05 am 

    Nationalist

    You would enjoy seeing the Russians win hockey! So you could suck the fat cock of the worlds riches elite Putin…I bet Putin put’s his jizz on a spoon for you swallow! eh Nationalist?

  40. Davy on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 6:05 am 

    Nationalist, a little of the talk I criticized is fine. These issues are a reaction to globalism’s failures. I am against immigration like it is today. I am against the destruction of cultures but that is 3rd world cultures too not just 1st world ones. This works both ways. Nedernazi is an extremist who is packing the board with endless copy and paste word press shit that is prepackaged and dumped on here. It is shit and needs to be flushed. I have no problem with people like you who are moderate.

  41. Davy on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 6:16 am 

    “The collapse has been going on since the 1970’s. And once the oil starts to run out the MIT limits to growth economic collapse will hit…And then you are fucked on a farm!
    Ahh, do you have a time frame Einstein? Have you ever read your regurgitated links? Why don’t you fill in these empty references with some worlds from them or can’t you read? I may be “fucked on the farm” and maybe not because you have no clue how this collapse is going to unfold. I can tell you in the mean time I am living a great life. It is both educational and rewarding so is that bad too? What kind of life are you living? What the frig are you doing that is special. You never talk about your wonderful life. All I see is you packing a web blog with regurgitate negativity and foul language. Your sexual deviant behavior is disgusting? Anyone can play billy bad ass but do you have a real life backbone?

    “You stupid redneck!”
    I guarantee I have more education and culture than you will ever have. It is apparent you don’t have much and I am wondering what schools are teaching these days because you are not showing much intelligence for the accreditations you claim to have. I believe you are from Michigan. I have been to Michigan too and the countryside is not much different than the Ozarks. Lots of poor people too. Detroit is a mess so what is your point boy wonder?

  42. Davy on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 6:24 am 

    “I have several scholarly sources to argue you have nothing but blind ignorance and faith!”
    Let’s see them kid dumbass. Give me links with supporting words too. I don’t read the empty links you and the nedernazi are too lazy to include with words. Anyone can say they know something and say see read this. See what? Put down the words stupid.

    “And you must not spend too much time prepping you spend so much time writing word salad rants arguing “
    What the frig is your regurgitate dumbass? You say more than I do. You drown this board in your dumbass and it is redundant and repetitive. Occasionally I try to write a few paragraphs to give a deeper understanding then the usual of people agreeing and one liners. Is schools not teaching you young shits how to write a few paragraphs anymore. Are you capable of writing anything kid dumbass?

    “insults with stupid people like clogg.”
    What do you do kid dumbass hypocrite?

  43. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 6:33 am 

    Davy

    Less I have a timeline by 2030 per the limits to growth computer models. Are you too fucking imbread to read a study now?

    From the limits to growth study

    The close alignment between the LTG BAU scenario and observed developments over the last four decades, as well as the correspondence in the underlying dynamics described above, portend of potential
    global collapse. Although the general commentary on the LTG describes collapse occurring sometime mid-century (and the LTG authors stressed not interpreting the time scale too precisely), the BAU scenario implies that a relatively rapid fall in economic conditions and the population
    could be imminent. Indeed, other aspects of oil supply constraints explored in the following, indicate that the ongoing economic downturn of the GFC may be representative of an imminent BAU style collapse.
    http://sustainable.unimelb.edu.au/sites/default/files/docs/MSSI-ResearchPaper-4_Turner_2014.pdf

    German Military (leaked) Peak Oil study: oil is used in the production of 95% of all industrial goods, so a shortage of oil would collapse the world economy & world governments
    http://www.energybulletin.net/sites/default/files/Peak%20Oil_Study%20EN.pdf

    2020s To Be A Decade of Disorder For Oil
    https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/2020s-To-Be-A-Decade-of-Disorder-For-Oil.html

  44. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 6:35 am 

    Davy

    What do you mean by empty links? The links work fine for me? I just posted five of them above and you are crowing for me to do it again? Jesus Christ get a hold of yourself. lol

  45. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 6:36 am 

    Existing oil reserves are scheduled to begin a catastrophic crash within 1 to 3 years. When it hits the economic and social damage will be catastrophic. The end of Western Civilization, from China to Europe, to the US, will not occur when oil runs out. The economic and social chaos will occur when supplies are merely reduced sufficiently….

    https://imgur.com/a/6dEDt
    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v481/n7382/full/481433a.html
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301421509001281
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030142151300342X
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0016236114010254
    http://www.geo.cornell.edu/eas/energy/the_challenges/peak_oil.html
    http://www.energybulletin.net/sites/default/files/Peak%20Oil_Study%20EN.pdf
    http://www.scribd.com/document/367688629/HSBC-Peak-Oil-Report-2017

  46. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 6:39 am 

    Davy

    Just be honest you are not prepping because its a smart and reasonable thing to do. You are doing it because you are a misanthrope who hates society. The funny thing is though without the rule of law and a prosperous society around you. You would be dead in a few days. Go live on farm and be a homesteader in a place like Syria and see how long you would last…And your state is full of gun nut wack jobs! They will have no problems neutralizing you when society collapses.

  47. Davy on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 6:44 am 

    “Less I have a timeline by 2030 per the limits to growth computer models. Are you too fucking imbread to read a study now?”
    Kid dumbass, models are models or are models reality? Your model is not good enough to pick the date of 2030. It might be in the neighborhood of 2030. What about the location? Where is collapse going to start? Will there be different levels of collapse happening at the same time? You don’t have answers to these important questions because you don’t know and models don’t know.

    “From the limits to growth study”
    Kid dumbass properly reference your limit to growth study please. Is this your words or the studies?

  48. Cloggie on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 6:47 am 

    Hello Cloogie, Spain wasn’t destroyed by WW2 and is very popular with us Brits.

    You can take a Briton out of Albion and plant him in New Holland, oops, make that Australia, but you cannot take Albion out of a Briton. Even the commie Brit and poster here, who admitted he volunteered to study in the USSR in the seventies (Ghung), responded to my question what his background was with “English, English and English”, not American, his current domicile. That’s pretty identitarian in my book.

    I could see myself on a Spanish beach actually with a cold beer.

    Yes, we all know how much the British are fond of making fun of, uh, I mean with the Spanish…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7mpClSPyhk

    I could even call myself yooroppeean if it made you feel any better.

    I am absolutely not surprised by that admission and in your case you are welcome. It is always nice to have a fallback-scenario, just ask Davy, who already secured himself a refuge in Northern Italy, just in case things go wrong in the US. I already picture Davy sitting in a mountain hut there, sewing a Canadian flag on his silly MAGA hat.lol

    Some day Davy will get comfortable with calling himself a Yuropean as well, after the end of the American Era.

  49. Davy on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 6:51 am 

    “What do you mean by empty links? The links work fine for me? I just posted five of them above and you are crowing for me to do it again? Jesus Christ get a hold of yourself. Lol”

    Geeze you are stupid. Take your links dumbass and put the words down from those links that support your assertion. Are you capable of reading and digesting what is said in those links? I don’t need your reading list. You are not impressing me with a bunch of empty dated links. Here is what you are doing, you are saying you are smart because you throw scholarly links around. That makes you a scholar or something. This is constant too like a juvenile who uses fuck too much because he wants to be billy bad ass. You are trying to say “here look” I am smart here are the links saying I am smart. Give me a friggen break dumbass.

  50. MASTERMIND on Sun, 25th Feb 2018 6:57 am 

    Davy

    The computer models of the limits to growth are accurate. They have been fact checked and proven true for ever forty years. And you are asking me to quote the studies and I already did..Man you are going nuts now..

    Simple really….when the World Economy Collapses everything shuts down…the end… We’re talking about grids down all over the world and 7.5B people dropping like f*** flies in short order. The collapse will be absolutely horrible..There is no collapse or horror movie ever produced that has even come close to imagining what the collapse of BAU might look like. I’m talking about every corporation and every social program going bankrupt at once. I’m talking about people eating people. I’m talking about the Worst Catastrophe to ever happen in the history of mankind. Nothing has ever, or will ever come close…

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