War With Iran Was Planned Decades Ago

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onlooker on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 6:02 pm 



It goes without saying that the US empire does what all Empires do. They plan for subjugation and conquest then they implement those plans. The problem is China and Russia have drawn the line in the sand with Iran and any rash military action will precipitate WWIII

makati1 on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 6:10 pm 



Yes, the Empire has finally come up against countries that have the ability to say NO! with force. All the US can do is bluster and tweet childish threats. The Clown president is only proving how toothless America really is. It is back-off or nukes. We shall see which he chooses.

Boat on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 6:59 pm 



I am sure if Iran quit funding groups like al-Queda, Hezbollah and suicide bombers along with dropping their nuke potential, the empire would reward them with access to trade. Rogue nations cannot be allowed to have nukes.

Davy on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 7:12 pm 



Shia are not suicide bombers. It is against their form of the Muslim religion.

makati1 on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 7:20 pm 



Rogue nations like .. the US, Boat?
What country has used nukes when they were not justified?
What country is killing thousands of innocents all over the world annually?
What country is invading sovereign countries based on lies of its own making?
What country has meddled in over 70 countries since WW2?
What country is funding/supplying ISIS?
What country spends over a trillion dollars for wars annually?
Answer: The US.

Blow-back is going to be a bitch!

Duncan Idaho on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 7:43 pm 



Fear and Anxiety Drive Conservatives’ Political Attitudes
Can brain differences explain conservatives’ fear-driven political stances?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201612/fear-and-anxiety-drive-conservatives-political-attitudes

Boat on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 7:47 pm 



The group now known as Sunnis chose Abu Bakr, the prophet’s adviser, to become the first successor, or caliph, to lead the Muslim state. Shiites favored Ali, Muhammad’s cousin and son-in-law. Ali and his successors are called imams, who not only lead the Shiites but are considered to be descendants of Muhammad.

Radical Muslims call for a pan-Islamic Caliphate, which is an ancient government system based entirely on Sharia, Islamic law, and led by one individual, a Prince of Believers. Pan simply means to be located everywhere, throughout the world. The enemy is any Islamic government that does not strictly adhere to the Sharia and all unbelievers—Christians, Jews, and other non-Muslims. The term Christian and non-Muslim describe the majority of the people of the Western world, including western Europeans and the United States. According to Islamic radicals, God wants them to kill the “unbelievers.”

Read more: Terrorism – Religious Terrorism – Islamic, Laden, Bin, and Qaeda – JRank Articles http://law.jrank.org/pages/11973/Terrorism-Religious-Terrorism.html#ixzz4vcy5wx00

Sorry, no nukes for you.

Duncan Idaho on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 8:04 pm 



Assange Thanks US Govt For His 50,000% Gain On Bitcoin As Russia Unveils ‘CryptoRuble’

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-15/julian-assange-thanks-john-mccain-us-government-his-forced-bitcoin-investment

Cloggie on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 8:16 pm 



If the US will seriously attack Iran with the purpose of regime change, it will mean war with Russia and China, without any support from Europe. Because of this:

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2017/06/05/524300/Iran-China-Shanghai-Cooperation-Organization-Li-Huilai-membership

To accomplish regime change in Tehran would implicate a far greater challance than Iraq (which succeeded) or Syria (which failed).

In Syria, Russian and US planes avoided each other. I don’t think we will have such luck over Iran. Actually I do not think the US will be that stupid.

The US will have to operate from KSA as it can’t use its 1940s carrier technology, without being subjected to Russian and Chinese super-sonic missile technology, launched from Iran. Complete madness and the Navy knows it.

Than these ridiculous remarks from boat about that mysterious organization al-Qaida. Both al-Qaida and Isis were a creation of the US, for the purpose of regime change in Afghanistan and Syria resp. So much is true. But than it gets vague. Al-Qaida was a Sunni organization. Bin Laden did indeed have the purpose of removing “the infidel” from Sunni lands, Soviet or Anglo. Good for him. But Bin Laden died in late 2001, after falsely being accused of 9/11 (in reality a US-Israeli “inside job”). It is questionable if al-Qaida really exists anymore. Sure there are endless amounts of Jihadis who are willing, if paid, to help overthrow semi-secular regimes, like the commies in Afghanistan or Assad. But generally Sunnis and Shiites avoid each other, with the exception of Iraq and Syria, when the question is at stake if the country will be Sunni fundamentalist or not. Iraq is now Shiite, thanks to the 2003 blunder invasion and Iran got Iraq handed over as a client state for free. Syria will remain a Russian-Iranian client state. Expect that the Kurds are going to be crushed next by Turkey, Syria, Irak and Iran. Iraqi forces enter Kirkuk as we speak and again will prevent these hapless Kurds to establish a Kurdish state at the expense of the four states mentioned. And agailn the US, that supports the Kurds, will make a fool of itself and left empty-handed.

Boat on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 8:48 pm 



656: Ali becomes the fourth caliph after his predecessor is assassinated. Some among the Muslims rebel against him.

661: Violence and turmoil spread among the Muslims; Ali is assassinated.

680: Hussein, son of Ali, marches against the superior army of the caliph at Karbala in Iraq. He is defeated, his army massacred, and he is beheaded. The split between Shiites and Sunnis deepens. Shiites consider Ali their first imam, Hussein the third.

873: The 11th Shiite Imam dies. No one succeeds him.

873-940: In the period, known as the Lesser Occultation, the son of the 11th Imam disappears, leaving his representatives to head the Shiite faith.

940: The Greater Occultation of the 12th or Hidden Imam begins. No imam or representative presides over the Shiite faithful.

1258: The Mongols, led by Hulagu, destroy Baghdad, ending the Sunni Arab caliphate.

1501: Ismail I establishes the Safavid dynasty in Persia and declares Shiism the state religion.

The battle between these religious groups goes back aways. The US just tries to keep the oil flowing for the world along with dozens of other countries.

makati1 on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 8:59 pm 



Cloggie, Boat, and most Americans, have no idea about the US creating the ‘enemies’ they are supposed to be fighting. It is all about $$$$. Selling weapons, which is all the US has to sell these days, (most of them are outdated or do not work) and trying to control the ME. Both are destined to fail. The destruction will have to come to US soil before they open their eyes. Picking a fight with Iran could do that. Oceans are no longer a barrier.

Ralph on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 9:57 pm 



Iran has a new ally – Iraq. Iraqi forces with Iranian backed Shia militia are attacking Kirkuk to grab the oil fields from the Kurds. I don’t think that was in trump’s calendar.

Boat on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 9:59 pm 



clog,

The US will prevent nukes in Iran and/or N Korea. You know it, I know it, cheeto knows it. There is a thing called proportionate response in conflict. Maybe WWII where most humans die or just a series of bombing raids. Could be peak oil in a day.

makati1 on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 10:52 pm 



Bost. you really don’t have a clue about current events do you? What don’t you understand about China and Russia being on the NK and Iranian side? China has already told the US that any military action by the US in NK will bring China into the fight and that means the US gets wiped out. Not to mention that Russia may just join in for the sport. Ditto for Iran. The Cheeto is a windbag tweeter. Nothing more.

makati1 on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 10:53 pm 



BTW: Did you not notice that NK ALREADY has nukes? And missiles? And can use them?

Cloggie on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 1:41 am 



“The US will prevent nukes in Iran and/or N Korea. You know it, I know it, cheeto knows it. ”

That “master of the universe” tone, priceless.

NK can be solved by the US and China with quiet diplomacy, aiming at creating a unified, neutral, denuclear Korea. But the US wants to keep its SK colony., so this real solution is a no-no for Washington.

Cloggie on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 2:18 am 



Boat loves to judge US politics by counting flags along the road side. And since he observes that there are far more confederate than israeli flags, he concludes that the “Israel Lobby” controlling US politics is a farce. After all, the US is a democracy with one-man-one-vote right?

Wrong.

Boat completely overlooks the role of money in US politics. Since the US society handed over money creation to said Lobby, without realizing it (it was a Christmas time coup really, the consequence of a secret meeting at Jekyll Island in 1910) , with a certain delay, the Lobby could buy any politician and fund his campaign.

The modern day Henry Ford, Paul Craig Roberts explains:

http://www.unz.com/proberts/has-the-israel-lobby-destroyed-americans-first-amendment-rights/

The Sovietization of the US is not very far away, although most here will falsely attribute “fascism” to the new constellation.

Theedrich on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 3:45 am 



The U.S. wants to repeat its Pearl Harbor trick.  At that time it forced the Japs into a corner and secretly threatened war against them if they wouldn’t pull out of China, Manchuria and Korea.  The DeepState was heavily involved in snowing the country’s mushrooms in those days, and was successful beyond imagination.  And today the cosmic Regime-Changers think they can do it again:  hence all of the flyovers and naval sortees near NorK, economic sanctions and other provocations in the expectation that Kim Jong-Un will be driven to exasperation and do something foolish like the Rising Sun did in 1941.

China and Russia know all of this, of course, and are seeking to deter the crazies in D.C. from their demented project.  However, for the past score of years Washington has clearly been becoming more and more desperate.  What with China’s new islands in the South China Sea, the new, clandestine support that Russia is giving North Korea, and the extreme nervousness on the part of the Euro-elites about Trump’s decertification of the Iranian no-nuke agreement, it seems that everyone except Yankeedom and its Levantine dog-wagger wants to accept NorK as a member of the nuclear club.  The problem is that the gods on the Potomac do not realize that this is no longer 1950 when they could impose a Stockholm syndrome on the rest of the world.

makati1 on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 4:47 am 



Totally correct, Theedrich.

TheNationalist on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 5:54 am 



Fuck the yank scum that support this criminality and zionism!
Tokyo and L.A. will cease to exist in the first hour
If the retrograde cunts in Hillary Clinton land throw this fucking dice I just hope some sub commander has a moment of clarity and takes out Mecca when she has the chance!

JuanP on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 6:03 am 



Thee, I completely agree that the US government’s actions seem to reflect desperation. The USA is collapsing and is likely to try and destroy the world to retain its top bully position for as long as possible. This will not save the USA, though. The US society is falling apart and their is no way this ends well. It is heartbraking to witness this. As a selfish US resident all I want is for the USA to hold its shit together until my wife and I die, but I don’t think it will last that long. The coming economic crisis will be the worst in US history and is likely to wipe out the US dollar and destroy the country. Americans are destroying their country from the inside out.

makati1 on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 6:43 am 



JuanP, I doubt that the US will hold together for long. It seems to be collapsing faster and faster all the time. A few more years, maybe, but not even until my end. I lived in its best years and am witnessing its worse. Not what I expected when I was a boy and it truly was a great place to live. That began to die in the 70s and now…? Insanity seems to rule in DC.

Davy on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 9:00 am 



We are fine here in the US. All the problems are making us stronger. I imagine we will be the last man standing and all you crazy anti-Americans will be wailing and grinding your teeth as you yourselves sink into oblivion. It is very funny to hear them over and over whining how bad we are when they are living in often times a worse situation. See my finger. lol

MASTERMIND on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 9:05 am 



makati1 you are so deluded…You live under a discrased criminal dicator who you claim to love with 100% of your heart. How brainwashed can one be? You always accuse others of this but you are the one who is the most guilty. And i have posted 4 peer reviewed academic studies that conclude the collapse will be global. That means you! And none of the studies have been refuted. You dumbshit

fmr-paultard on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 9:09 am 



there’s so much anti-americanism here by SENTPs. I was a paultard and I thought the alt-tard media is taking over but no.

my assessemnts: MSM said vegas, vegas it is.
MSM said sex, sex it is.

I’m only a tard but this is good news. It means the days for bumpski of supremacist extremists tard nazi preachers are near.

makati1 on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 9:20 am 



I see that MM has entered Davy’s World where all reality is fiction and all fiction is reality. lol

MASTERMIND on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 9:28 am 



Madkat the WAPOST just reported that Trump will meet with your dictator in November when he visit Asia. See how your president will suck the american cock at any chance he can get. LOL

makati1 on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 9:29 am 



“We live in a simulacrum society in which the fading scent of the American Dream is more a collective memory kept alive for political purposes than a reality. …

the American Dream is now reserved for the top 0.5%, with some phantom shreds falling to the top 5% who are tasked with generating a credible illusion of prosperity for the bottom 95%. …

In other words, the American-Dream idea that life should get easier and more prosperous as the natural course of progress is still embedded in our collective memory, even though the collective reality has changed: …

As I have often noted, this creates a highly combustible and dangerous dynamic, as the emotions of betrayal and despair are volatile.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-16/fading-scent-american-dream

The chaos and terror is only beginning…

MASTERMIND on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 9:30 am 



makati1 what reality am I ignoring? You are the one ignoring four peer reviewed academic studies. From NASA, The royal society and MIT. You are the one who is deluded and ignoring the conclusions and evidence.

MASTERMIND on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 9:33 am 



makati1 This is a battle to the death. the Chinese and Russians dont stand a chance. we want it all for us. The oil and everything else.

Cloggie on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 11:10 am 



“makati1 This is a battle to the death. the Chinese and Russians dont stand a chance. we want it all for us. The oil and everything else.”

How about practicing with North-Vietnam a little first?

https://goo.gl/images/YKAZRC

Davy on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 12:03 pm 



The US rarely lost a battle in Vietnam. It lost no major battles there. You are just upset becuase the Nazi’s were handed their asses in compete defeat. Oooch

fmr-paultard on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 12:08 pm 



correct supertard. losing war in vietnam means losing political war.

in contrast, war with china and russia and eurotard means military war. in that case we take siberia

fmr-paultard on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 1:02 pm 



yes the SENTPs are radical islamic supporters and anti-americans. Assange commited treason and can be droned easily. once again I’m in agreement with boat. I hereby upgrade him to supertard status.

Cloggie on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 2:01 pm 



“The US rarely lost a battle in Vietnam. It lost no major battles there. ”

It is very difficult to lose against a small Asian people, would you not agree? The US pussies lost because these longhaired cry-baby kiddos began to cry at the ridiculous low death rate of 40,000. European men in contrast continue to fight if they lose one million or more, that is the difference.

Even the WaPo has to admit: “their wehrmacht was better than our army”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1985/05/05/their-wehrmacht-was-better-than-our-army/0b2cfe73-68f4-4bc3-a62d-7626f6382dbd/?utm_term=.00a91dd6d594

And remember, in those days days the US army was largely white. Today it is an incoherent rag-tag army of incompatible people, who can’t even decisively defeat and pacify a small camel jockey country like Eyeraq. The whole world knows by now that the winning formula is: lure their boots on your soil and already you have won with guerilla tactics.

“You are just upset becuase the Nazi’s were handed their asses in compete defeat. Oooch”

I used to have an amical relationship with Daver-boy for ca. five years, because he is a master in deception, even more so than the TalmudTurk, who is born with lying DNA. I thought that he was a patriot, who was loyal to his country and his European-American roots.

He isn’t. Not in a long shot. This wannabee 1%-er-turned-hobbyist-goat-herd is in reality a hardcore US imperialist, who gloats every time a country is added to the empire, regardless of the cost. He despises America and admitted he “was bored with the Mid-West” and went to Europe, no doubt to inspect the colonial resources.

Recently, when I explained once again, in ever more detail, what really had happened between 1933-1945, he got tired of having to deny once again what is the obvious truth and he snarled “we kicked your asses” instead of his usual lie that “noble America came to our rescue” (“saved your asses”). The truth is that Kosher-run America and Kosher-run USSR did everything they could to incite war in Europe, so they could take the lot over at the cost of millions of deaths. And in the end invented a holohoax to make themselves look good.

Right Daver boy, now I have got you where I want to have you with your constant whining about these horrible people who are not too keen to be a member of that Big Whopper empire of yours. Your sense of timing is horrible, because in 2017 it is going to be imperialists like you who are going to be the hunted, not the hunters like in 1945. Your have very few friends… the British, the Sauds, Micronesia, Israel. Your opponents: Russia, China and hey… they noticed something in the US too…

https://altright.com/2017/10/16/alt-right-politics-october-16-2017-bannon-unleashed/

“Issue 4) Macron, a French Trump? Macron is saying all the right things. What if he actually did them?”

Macron and even Juncker are preparing to “emancipate” themselves from the empire via an EU-army.

Europe will not be your vassal if you attempt to unleash WW3 against Russia. The US empire has nothing but enemies. But hey, US Jews will bravely fight until the last American, or so they think. In reality the US will back down after #40,000

You only have to listen to US insider JuanP, who is more sensitive and left-leaning than I am. He confirms that the US itself (not just the empire) could fall apart in a matter of years, as it has no consistency and shared identity.

Cloggie on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 2:04 pm 



“correct supertard. losing war in vietnam means losing political war.”

You got your behinds kicked in Somalia and Lebanon as well.

But Grenada (10,000 inh) was a solid victory. Point for you.

Davy on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 2:24 pm 



Clog, you hate American and want to see us dead then you want to bring your grand fantasy army over and clean the fictional mess up. You say these things and want to be amicable? Go bite yourself asswipe. Get over your whining and show some backbone. You are nothing but a racist pussy.

fmr-paultard on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 2:57 pm 



thanks to our american darpa they’re using intarweb to lob verbal bombs at us. thanks to jewish supertard haber with nitrogen fixation they bred like cock roaches.

then rave on about muh von braun but in reality it was supertard kubrick who did. just consult REM’s Man on the Moon for definitive account of this event.

small peabrained von brain quoted psalm 19:1.

’nuff said

Cloggie on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 3:13 pm 



“Clog, you hate American and want to see us dead“

Really? Before the election I was one of the most vocal supporters of Trump, because of the Wall he wanted to build. So what do you mean, I want to see Americans dead?

I and many here with me, hate Washington and its drive to try to subjugate every country on this planet, as well as imperial water carriers like you and outright idiots like boat and the tard, your staunch allies.lol (with friends like these…). Your kind will stop at nothing. Your hybris is outright dangerous. Your very big problem that most of the world meanwhile feels likewise. And that problem is terminal.

Davy on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 3:32 pm 



You hate everything about Americans cloggie. You don’t fool me. You have deep resentment for imagined wrongs per your revised history: Your fantasy future depends on the destruction of the US. You will like Americans with European background once the destruction is complete. You will round them up to colonize the destroyed landscape in accordance with your racist doctrine. Right now you salivate with the thought of a destructive civil war decimating the population. You are a horrible person with hatred in your heart and that hatred is directed towards my people. Go fuck yourself

Cloggie on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 4:30 pm 



“You hate everything about Americans cloggie. You don’t fool me. ”

You ignore what I said in my previous post. I want to protect Europeans in North-America where you only shout “racism”, the battle cry of the empire.

“You have deep resentment for imagined wrongs per your revised history”

True.

“You will like Americans with European background once the destruction is complete. ”

Correct, as long as it is understood that it will be Americans and nobody else who will carry out the foming destruction, not Europeans, They will end it.

https://altright.com/2017/10/14/political-violence-is-inevitable-in-america/

“Right now you salivate with the thought of a destructive civil war decimating the population”

I hoped that a wall could prevent such an outcome, but it seems that tptb will know to prevent building that.

“You are a horrible person with hatred in your heart and that hatred is directed towards my people. Go fuck yourself”

No you stinking lying punk, it is you who is actually salviating at the real millions of burned, raped, killed Germans who had to suffer because that horrible Washington wanted to colonize Europe until today. Davy: “we kicked your asses”. Now that is salviating. But the world is going to destroy that empire and Americans themselves will initiate that destruction. And I will salviate over the end of the empire, in perfect symmetry with the downfall of the Soviet empire.

Davy on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 5:08 pm 



If you were Iraqi I could understand the hate clogged mind but you live in a cesspool of lies that does not warrant the hate. People that want me and my people dead are the enemy. You are the enemy you piece of shit. Climb back into your hole mud creature.

makati1 on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 6:22 pm 



Cloggie, Davy ignores anything he doesn’t want to believe. He never replies to any real facts that point out the US failures and ongoing collapse. You have him correctly defined. A bully 1%er that wants more.

He has a few others who want to live in Davy Land but they too are nothing more than deniers. Must be fear of the future? Davy likes to accuse me of being emotional when he exhibits his short temper with every post. He only makes me laugh at his fantasies.

You and I seem to share the same view of the US past and present. I only hope they allow the world to have a future. Irrational, war mongering Trumpet may do something stupid.

Davy on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 6:29 pm 



Mad kat, we are fine in the US. You and clogged mind live in a twilight zone of lies. You are a lie and you are old so anymore you don’t know what is a lie and what is reality. It is called old age dementia combined with a sick mind. Both you and clogged have this condition. Your comments exhibit behavior that does not reality test. Sad.

makati1 on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 6:38 pm 



“… we are fine in the US” Keep telling yourself that if it eases the pain, Davy.

makati1 on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 6:40 pm 



That didn’t take long, Cloggie. The emotional Davy just couldn’t resist his 12 year old temper tantrum. lol

Davy on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 6:57 pm 



No big deal mad kat. I bet you miss your support system. You are pretty lame on your own. I enjoy smacking down your lies.

makati1 on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 8:14 pm 



Davy, I never had a “support system” that I didn’t make for myself. I didn’t have a rich family to pamper me and provide all of the mind bending exceptionalist bullshit you did.

I miss nothing. I am secure here and you are jealous because you are NOT secure there. You rely on many support system that are failing. It must be scary. lol

Cloggie on Tue, 17th Oct 2017 2:11 am 



“People that want me and my people dead are the enemy.”

Give me the quote where I say that I want to see Americans dead, you lying freak. All I want to see is that Americans go home and stop killing people all over the world.

“It is called old age dementia”

Vicious insults if you know what a drama real dementia is.

makati1 on Tue, 17th Oct 2017 2:29 am 



Cloggie, Davy is everything he claims we are. It’s called hypocrisy in the dictionary and is a rampant condition in the US. You know, “We will destroy your country to make it safe for democracy”.

That was first uttered in WW1 by. I think it was President Wilson. Ah, yes, here is fact: “On April 2, 1917, President Woodrow Wilson went before a joint session of Congress to seek a Declaration of War against Germany in order that the world “be made safe for democracy.”” That has been the excuse for the killing and plunder by the US ever since then.

Davy may not be our age, but he is showing signs of mental problems and will not likely make it to his 70s. He cannot accept that there are other, and better, places to live than Police State America.