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Venezuela’s food shortage keeps getting worse
As dawn breaks over the scorching Venezuelan city of Maracaibo, smugglers, young mothers, and a handful of kids stir outside a supermarket where they spent the night, hoping to be first in line for scarce rice, milk, or whatever may be available.
Some of the people in line are half-asleep on flattened cardboard boxes; others are drinking coffee. Almost all are bemoaning their situation.
With shortages of basic goods and looting on the rise, more Venezuelans say they are resorting to nighttime waits in front of closed stores.
“I can’t get milk for my child. What are we going to do?” said Leida Silva, 54, breaking into tears outside the Latino supermarket in northern Maracaibo, where she arrived at 3 a.m. on a recent day.
The food shortages in Venezuela, a major oil producer, stem from currency controls that restrict the availability of US dollars for imports. Lower oil prices, a recession, and rampant inflation have further darkened the economic outlook.
The Information Ministry did not respond to requests for comment.
There have been scores of looting attempts this year, fueling fears of worsening scarcity. Several states banned nighttime queues earlier this year, at times citing problems with crime.
“I’m scared, of course, but it’s the only way we can eat,” said Ofenia Gonzalez, 46, spending the night outside a supermarket in the hopes of finding food for her nine children.
SMUGGLERS SWARM STORES
Soldiers with riot shields, tear gas canisters, and rifles patrol lines in Maracaibo, a major city in the northwest.
Scarcity is particularly acute here because smugglers — taking advantage of the leftist government’s policy of fixing prices on some goods — buy products to sell for profit in nearby Colombia.
“We have to maintain control otherwise there would be chaos,” said Lieutenant Carlos Barrera, 21, pushing back crowds at one supermarket.
REUTERS/Carlos Garcia RawlinsPeople crowd together in an attempt to buy chickens at a Mega-Mercal, a subsidized state-run street market, in Caracas, January 24, 2015.
Smugglers, known as “bachaqueros,” after a large leaf-cutter ant, are ubiquitous in nighttime queues. Working in groups, they swarm stores when goods arrive.
Some of those waiting in line in Maracaibo readily identified themselves to Reuters as smugglers.
President Nicolas Maduro, saying smugglers are depriving the poor, has vowed another crackdown. “What’s a bachaquero?” he said during a speech on Tuesday. “It’s a human being turned savage.”
While there is resentment toward resellers in queues, more than 60% of Venezuelans blame shortages on the government, according to pollster Datanalisis.
“We want change. We need this government to collapse,” said Yanet Moran, 19, after five hours queuing in the dark.
47 Comments on "Venezuela’s food shortage keeps getting worse"
Rodster on Mon, 17th Aug 2015 6:15 pm
Coming to a Nation near you. This will go global.
dissident on Mon, 17th Aug 2015 6:43 pm
After the right wing restoration coup, there will not be any more shortages. It will be like back in the good old days of the 1990s where 70% of the people were too poor to afford enough food to feed themselves. The shelves will be full though.
redpill on Mon, 17th Aug 2015 7:41 pm
dissident, that’s one possible future but how about we start with the fact that the current government is corrupt and utterly incompetent.
“España’s team found that the share of households living in poverty here rose to 48 percent in 2014. And a local NGO, Provea, said that its analysis showed that Venezuela was likely to finish 2015 with the same number of people living in poverty as in 2000, erasing the progress made under Chavez.”
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2015/0325/Venezuela-Does-an-increase-in-poverty-signal-threat-to-government
Mad Weber on Mon, 17th Aug 2015 7:45 pm
““I can’t get milk for my child. What are we going to do?” said Leida Silva, 54,” Uh. What? LOL. Other lady said she had 9 kids. What are these people thinking? I don’t know of any Americans who can afford to keep having kids into their 50’s nor to have 9 kids. This ain’t 1700’s!
Apneaman on Mon, 17th Aug 2015 8:21 pm
In photos: Brazil’s anti-government protests
http://mashable.com/2015/08/16/photos-brazil-protests/
dissident on Mon, 17th Aug 2015 9:37 pm
Gotta love this one-note Johnny theme of corruption that is always trotted out some sort of “proof”. Corruption in Venezuela was rampant and epic before Chavez. Chavez actually diverted some of the money being looted offshore by the oligarchy and directed it towards improving the standard of living of the majority. Too bad he did not leave a robust system behind and it has been falling apart ever since he died.
Look up Citgo and transfer pricing. Venezuela’s majority never saw the oil money. But somehow America did.
Truth Has A Liberal Bias on Mon, 17th Aug 2015 9:39 pm
Tar sands take lots of energy to produce.
Canada has lots of tar sands and has lots of natural gas that it burns to provide energy to mine and process tar sands.
Venezuela recently became an importer of natural gas. I feel that it is this lack of cheap natural gas with which to process tar sands that causes Venezuela a lot of their problems in accessing their resource.
If Canada lacked natural gas they wouldn’t be mining much tar sands.
dissident on Mon, 17th Aug 2015 9:40 pm
Apneaman, the signs in English calling for a military coup and restoration of the junta are for some reason omitted from that compilation. The last one in Spanish is calling for a coup.
As if there was no corruption under the juntas in Latin America. These people are associated with the oligarchy and idiots who are being taken for a ride.
dissident on Mon, 17th Aug 2015 9:52 pm
http://www.telesurtv.net/export/sites/telesur/img/news/2015/08/15/infographicdilmamarches519.jpg_2008601048.jpg
Brazil’s colour revolution attempt.
apneaman on Mon, 17th Aug 2015 10:03 pm
dissident, when I was a little kid in the early 1970’s I used to listen to my dad and his buddies talk about the Dulles brothers, The United Fruit Company, banksters and all the rest of it. It was basically like hearing a preview of a bunch of Naomi Klein’s “Shock Doctrine” more than 30 years before she wrote it. Now I just mostly document what’s going on and mock the corns and tards. Determinism, absurdity and a dose of stoicism is the only way to go when your among one of the last generations of a suicidal species that will never change. Maybe the spin doctors are aware that many have caught on to the English signs in non English speaking countries (often carried by the lowly educated) discrepancies. The refinement of propaganda is one of the most lucrative occupations going.
Truth Has A Liberal Bias on Mon, 17th Aug 2015 10:11 pm
A right wing gov in Venezuela will fair no better. They have an ecological problem not a political problem.
To paraphrase Carl Von Clausewitz; war is an extension of politics.
I’ll do him two better; politics is an extension of economics, and economics is an extension of ecology.
Just as Egypt, Greece, Syria, Yemen, and Ukraine cannot solve their ecological crisis (lots of people and not enough energy resources) with a new leader of a different political stripe, neither can Venezuela.
Without cheap natural gas nobody will be mining their tar sands. And since they don’t have any they have to import it, which just ads to their trade deficit.
Makati1 on Mon, 17th Aug 2015 10:39 pm
This is America when we can no longer just print dollars to prop up our super corrupt oligarchy/fascist government. That day is fast approaching. ~45 million being fed by the US government today. When that dole ends….
apneaman on Tue, 18th Aug 2015 12:01 am
Those latinos are so uncivilized-tsk tsk.
……………………………………
‘MURICA
http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/08/17/murica-7/
Makati1 on Tue, 18th Aug 2015 2:32 am
Apneaman, PERFECT! LOL
harm on Tue, 18th Aug 2015 3:10 am
So Venezuela is experiencing what usually happens when you piss off America’s corporate oligarchy. They held it together pretty well under Chavez (strong socialist leader), but now that he’s gone, there’s no one to counter the (likely U.S. backed) criminals stealing food to smuggle and cause fake “shortages”. Not to mention the crash in oil prices haven’t helped the situation.
Davy on Tue, 18th Aug 2015 4:16 am
Sure Harm, all the worlds problems are from the US. Venezuela got themselves into this position from being a corrupt nation not because of the US. We know the US is meddling there but that can’t explain the perfect storm of problems. The US is likely not making things better but it AIN’T the reason for those problems.
Hello on Tue, 18th Aug 2015 4:38 am
Davy:
You kidding, right?
As a frequent visitor to this boards I’m sure you know that EVERYTHING is the USA’s fault. :-;
Davy on Tue, 18th Aug 2015 6:15 am
Yea, Hello, the anti-Americans have been trying to tell me for years that shit in their country don’t stink. I am well traveled and shit stinks everywhere.
Kenz300 on Tue, 18th Aug 2015 10:01 am
Too many people and too few resources….. yet the world adds 80 million more mouths to feed, clothe, house and provide water and energy for every year.
Endless population growth is not sustainable….
apneaman on Tue, 18th Aug 2015 2:28 pm
It all seems so far away sitting here safe in my privilege resource rich Canadian cocoon. Like watching a movie……….it can’t happen here eh?
Mass migration is no ‘crisis’: it’s the new normal as the climate changes
What’s the common factor between the tragic deaths of refugees in the Mediterranean and the Arab spring? Food shortages driven by global warming
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/18/mass-migration-crisis-refugees-climate-change
HARM on Tue, 18th Aug 2015 2:34 pm
Venezuela has its internal problems, rampant corruption (like most So. & Central American nations), but they’ve also been the target of U.S. government sanctions and CIA led coup attempts –all because ‘we’ (our leaders) don’t like their form of government.
http://www.salon.com/2015/03/13/a_new_degree_of_pettiness_why_is_the_u_s_really_sanctioning_venezuela/
HARM on Tue, 18th Aug 2015 2:36 pm
I am no Makati, but the American government’s fingerprints are all over Venezuela’s current problems.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/25/1280200/-US-has-Sought-to-Undermine-Venezuela-for-Years
Davy on Tue, 18th Aug 2015 2:47 pm
Agreed Harm but it is more complicated then that because Miami has 50,0000 Venezuelans who have their own agenda. They are a proud people not beholding to the US government.
Harm, I don’t think I could take two Makati1’s on this site. It would give me persistent diarrhea.
HARM on Tue, 18th Aug 2015 3:00 pm
@Davy,
Lol, I hear ya. For a while noobtube & Makati1 were pretty much tag-team America bashing. Oh, well, makes the site more ‘interesting’ I suppose.
apneaman on Tue, 18th Aug 2015 4:04 pm
I wonder how long, what pitiful amount of wildlife that is left, will last once TSHTF?
Humans responsible for demise of gigantic ancient mammals
Early humans were the dominant cause of the extinction of a variety of species of giant beasts, new research has revealed.
“Scientists at the universities of Exeter and Cambridge claim their research settles a prolonged debate over whether mankind or climate change was the dominant cause of the demise of massive creatures in the time of the sabretooth tiger, the woolly mammoth, the woolly rhino and the giant armadillo.
Known collectively as megafauna, most of the largest mammals ever to roam the earth were wiped out over the last 80,000 years, and were all extinct by 10,000 years ago.”
http://www.exeter.ac.uk/news/featurednews/title_465673_en.html
Makati1 on Tue, 18th Aug 2015 10:20 pm
Apneaman, I give anything edible about two years until they become extinct. Especially in the US where there are ~300 million guns and hunger will be a new experience for many.
“Mommy! My tummy hurts!” will be the cry of the land when the SHTF. Those bloated bellies will NOT be on black and brown children of the 3rd world countries but the white children of America.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-plague-infected-squirrels-20150814-story.html (Yosemite N.P.)
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/did-you-know-that-the-u-s-no-longer-has-any-strategic-grain-reserves-at-all
And the beat goes on … for a while.
apneaman on Tue, 18th Aug 2015 10:52 pm
A person can be 100lbs overweight and yet after 3 days of no food their brain chemistry will kick into desperation hunger mode even though they are carrying around weeks of stored energy. What a cruel trick of nature. Is it any wonder that only 2-5% of fat people who lose weight ever keep the weight off. Will power? I don’t think so. The power of evolution. Fat packers had an evolutionary advantage for millions of years as hunter gathers. There have been experiments run on skinny people (like your buddy that never gained an ounce no matter what he ate – fucker) where they get them to eat 5000 or more calories a day. Some of them said it made them sick and a few barely put any weight on. Afterwards they told them to eat normal and do not try to lose any weight. To a person their weight normalized within a couple of weeks. I fucking hate those people. I can gain 1/2 pound just looking at a box of doughnuts.
harm on Wed, 19th Aug 2015 12:14 am
@apneaman,
Yeah, I hear you. My brother fits that description of someone who never gains weight no matter what he eats. Me, not so much.
steve on Wed, 19th Aug 2015 9:02 am
You girls are underestimating the final outcome and that is world war….there is plenty of energy left for that and the smaller countries will be the foot rest for the larger countries…China will take over the asian rimm and the U.S will just watch because they will be slicing up their own spoils…Mak you better start learning Chinese…..
Bill on Wed, 19th Aug 2015 1:52 pm
How can anyone look at the world that is covered with over 785 U.S. Military basis and think that good ole USA is not responsible for much of the misery on the planet. The mass migration in Europe 850,000 in Germany alone this year 2015 is a direct result of US bombs and wepons either dropped, or supplied to so called Rebels, making many country’s unliveable.
It’s what they do and have done all over the world. As the U.S. Campaigns to get guns out of the hand of Americans the Shower the balance of the world with them. They can’t buy a cow but have no trouble picking up a U.S. Made Wepon.
Guns, Drugs, and Oil back the U.S. Dollar, not gold, and the bases are kept open around the world to remind the local governments of that fact.
But far be it from me to Bash the Red , White, and Blue in the midst of so many loyal fans. Maybe you will be luckily and get a Hillary to clean up the corruption in these dirty third world cess pools.
America needs a Gobyn Woman like this as a Poster child representing all that’s good in America …
Davy on Wed, 19th Aug 2015 3:09 pm
Oh quit being a pussy Bill. Are you Billy T the idiot that lives in Makati?
Bill, yes the U.S., her friends, and her enemies have been responsible for misery. The U.S. being the big dog is responsible for the most. Yet, quit being a pussy and admit the rest of the world is just as rotton as the U.S. but not as well supplied with weapons of misery.
I despise people like you Bill. You have an agenda not a honest search for the truth.
Boat on Wed, 19th Aug 2015 3:24 pm
How can anyone look at the world that is covered with over 785 U.S. Military basis and think that good ole USA is not responsible for much of the misery on the planet.
So the waring Germans, Japanese Italians etc are not better off today than before WWII? Welcome to capitalism. All those countries have a much better life style and longer life. Including the Chinese, S Korea etc. Past enemies and allies took a step forward with free trade.
If it were not for Nato and a common cause for stability, the continued push for trade, the continued push for health advances, efficiency advances, food nutrition, diese and water resistant crops, less polluted ways to build homes and cleaner energy are not just common sense but I am proud to be a part of that group.
GregT on Wed, 19th Aug 2015 3:37 pm
“Welcome to capitalism.”
Capitalism has almost run it’s course Boat, and has left a gigantic path of destruction in it’s wake. A path of destruction that will take the Earth tens of thousands of years to recover from. With or without us human beings.
Boat on Wed, 19th Aug 2015 4:20 pm
Well move to N Korea, the land is much less affected there. No need for electricity. And population control is delivered by famin. Meanwhile I think I will take a dip in my pool.
GregT on Wed, 19th Aug 2015 5:48 pm
Sorry Boat,
N Korea doesn’t have a magical bubble over top of it. It will be affected by insatiable human greed, just like everywhere else. And while you’re dipping in your pool, try not to think about the growing humanitarian crisis due to water insecurity, shortages, and drought. Especially not the drought part. Drought leads to famines, with or without electricity. Electricity is a nicety for sure, but it is definitely not a need. At 58, in all likelihood you’ll learn all about it.
Boat on Wed, 19th Aug 2015 6:29 pm
Why do we fear depopulation and degrowth. This must happen. I am all in favor of desalination, look to Israel for an example. We have water. We have tremendous amounts of runoff after rains we just let go. The earth has releases large amounts of grey water that should be utilized. Developed societies will utilize this tech while poor starving countries with huge populations won’t. Not my fault. We wouldn’t have near the world population now if the US, Europe and a couple of other countries didn’t export. Even N Korea gets free food. The world could depopulate fairly quickly without the shyt hitting the fan if they won’t comply with international laws. Ask Russia how their doing with just a few sanctions.
Apneaman on Wed, 19th Aug 2015 7:04 pm
boat you’re a moron. The world is unraveling as we speak and you keep falling back on your security blanket fox news talking points. While in the pool practice holding your breath for when the next hurricane or storm surge comes racing up Galveston bay and turns the city into a giant chemical swamp. Thanks to AGW there is now way more available energy for them and combined with SLR the next one will make Hurricane Ike look like a day at the water park. Not an if – A when.
Boat on Wed, 19th Aug 2015 7:15 pm
So while you think the world is collapsing Iraq’s oil output hit a record high in July at 4.18 million barrels per day, up sharply from an average of 3.42 million
Seems to me not only is there oil but if Iran comes online the world might not even need unconventional oil yet. A nice reserve to fall back on. This low oil price is giving consumers a break from the inflated oil prices of the past years. To bad for you all the doom is being put off a decade or more while we continue to go research electric/hybrid/nat gas/fuel cell/hydrogen etc. Only doomers cry when there is good news.
Davy on Wed, 19th Aug 2015 7:31 pm
Boat your corn porn is falling on deaf ears. There has been way too much bad news recently for you to babble your way out of this one. Boat, man up and take the bad news.
Apneaman on Wed, 19th Aug 2015 7:59 pm
Climate Change Deniers Present Graphic Description Of What Earth Must Look Like For Them To Believe
“For us to accept that the average surface temperature of the Earth has risen to critical levels due to mankind’s production of greenhouse gases, we’ll need to see some actual, visible evidence, including a global death toll of no less than 500 million people within a single calendar year,” said spokesperson William Davis, 46, of Jackson, NJ, who added that at least 70 percent of all islands on the planet would also have to become submerged under rising seas before he and his cohort would reconsider their beliefs. “To start, we’re going to have to see supercell tornadoes of category F4 or higher ripping through Oklahoma at least three times a day, leveling entire communities and causing hundreds of fatalities—and just to be perfectly clear, we’re talking year-round, not just during the spring tornado season.”
http://www.theonion.com/article/climate-change-deniers-present-graphic-description-51129
Apneaman on Wed, 19th Aug 2015 8:19 pm
boat, “up sharply”? You working for the WSJ now? How will 3/4 of a million bpd turn the ship around? Will it put a halt on AGW and ocean acidification and the 6th mass extinction? Instantly solve Venezuela’s troubles along with the rest of the global economy? Will the millions of climate refugees turn around and head for home upon hearing your good news? Please explain how this little increase changes anything. I’ll take anything boater – I’m desperate.
Boat on Wed, 19th Aug 2015 9:00 pm
Dear desperate,
Mass immigration and relocation is the story of humans from the beginning. Some survived and many died.
This site is mainly about Peak oil and the effects of depletion. If Iran is able to join the resurgence of Iraq convention oil will again take over with tar sands and fracked oil waiting for higher prices. Most doomers will now moved to climate change, nuclear WWIII, financial collapse or asteroid etc.
If geopolitics don’t get in the way and demand takes off we will see another peak soon. The US will just import more until the price for fracking is justified. Hopefully decades away.
Apneaman on Wed, 19th Aug 2015 9:59 pm
Mass immigration and relocation is the story of humans from the beginning? Really, thats all that has ever happened? Non stop mass immigration and relocation every single day for 6 million years? If it’s all so “normal” then why protest about latino illegals? How can something that is our story even be illegal? Rape murder and theft is also part of the human story and I doubt you would be so as a matter of fact and dismissive of it if it was a clear threat to you and yours. You are working really hard to normalize some very obvious and troubling things that are going down and are going to get worse. It’s quite common in apes. There is even a term for it.
Normalcy bias
“The normalcy bias, or normality bias, is a mental state people enter when facing a disaster. It causes people to underestimate both the possibility of a disaster and its possible effects. This may result in situations where people fail to adequately prepare for a disaster, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations.
The assumption that is made in the case of the normalcy bias is that since a disaster never has occurred then it never will occur. It can result in the inability of people to cope with a disaster once it occurs. People with a normalcy bias have difficulties reacting to something they have not experienced before. People also tend to interpret warnings in the most optimistic way possible, seizing on any ambiguities to infer a less serious situation.”
I think where you live has something to do with it as well. I hear the same type of excessive think tank group think when I go visiting my home town of Calgary. All sponsored by big money. I bet all those people have contingency/bug out plans. Yep, I bet good old boy Rex Tillerson has more then 1 get out of Dodge when TSHTF plan.
Groupthink
“Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people, in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative viewpoints, by actively suppressing dissenting viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences.
Loyalty to the group requires individuals to avoid raising controversial issues or alternative solutions, and there is loss of individual creativity, uniqueness and independent thinking.”
Boat on Wed, 19th Aug 2015 10:47 pm
If it’s all so “normal” then why protest about latino illegals?
I have nothing against illegals except as a sustainability issue. If no country accepted legals or illegals and gave up on the idea of growth for growths sake the world would be a more sustainable place. This isn’t 1900 anymore and it’s past time to adjust population issues.
I would also cut tax breaks for having children. This is the wrong message from a government.
I would also cut the military and social programs to the point we would pay the debt down a trillion a year. We spend 430 billion a year on interest. That is unsustainable.
A medical program that ran on office tests and generics is all the government should support until the debt is gone and then all spending should be within revenue collections. Which BTW in the US is another 450 billion of uncollected taxes.
Where do you get workers of the future with a declining population? Flat tax would free up a bunch, tech will continue to free up a bunch. The economy will decide where the workers will go. Cheap wages would be a thing of the past. Business would train and fight over who is available. etc. Lots of easy common sense ideas are around. Just takes political will and the people would follow. A carbon tax as an after thought. This would help the future come faster. And on and on. I don’t group think.
Apneaman on Wed, 19th Aug 2015 11:35 pm
All fine suggestions boat.
Davy on Thu, 20th Aug 2015 6:59 am
Boat, your comment is an example what so many people don’t understand and that is irreversibility of a complex interconnected system that is at limits and marginalized returns on development. We have consequences and unintended consequences of big decision like you mention. You can’t just change things anymore. We have become a brittle civilization that requires growth. Our problems are multiplying as our population increases and our resource base decreases. Tell me how that has a happy ending.
Degrowth is possible but not the organized kind. Rearranging the deck chairs in the economy to become more sustainable is not possible except around the edges. The pie is shrinking and the table is full of people. It is a classic case of overshoot and likely a classic case of a bottleneck. We have 7Bil people that is 6Bil beyond what is a normal carrying capacity if our species did not use so many nonrenewable resources. Stable climate then latter fossil fuels allowed this growth. Both of these vital variables appear to be about to go negative on us.
We then have a complex global system that delivers much of this food made with nonrenewable resources to 7Bil people in a still relatively stable climate. This global system is resilient as long as there is growth and stability of its complexity and energy intensity. This global system is so complex even a few percentage points of less growth is causing meaningful pain. What will happen when we have a 20%-40% drop in economic activity? There is no reason that type of drop can’t happen. The system will likely fall apart with 10% drop that last more than a years. I am not talking market drop I am talking output drop. What will result from a collapsed global system is anyone’s guess. The important variables of degree and duration come into play. As you can see but in your case deny, we can’t make changes without dangerous results that could become catastrophic results.
There is little we can do but be a train wreck. If you are a train wreck in motion and know it you make preparations at the individual level. At the group level you prepare to adapt and mitigate the nasty results. You make changes immediately to make the potential crisis less severe. We have a world dominated by brown, green, and gray cornucopian exceptionalist who believe technology and development is the answer. They believe the time frame for issues is still manageable to allow status quo activity. The cornucopians are dominated by economist thinking, market based activity, and technological development. The system is irreversible in this respect that is until a crisis.
We will likely have a crisis like 08 soon but it will not be solved by simple actions like the central banks and governments undertook. That was basically to throw money at a problem that is more than a money problem. These actions were Band-Aids. We are likely in a bumpy descent with decay at all levels. This bumpy descent is not enough to warrant drastic action that should be undertaken now to adequately prepare for nasty results in the near future. We are at most a few years from a point where a crisis will force action and change. I am not sure what will come out of it. It will likely be the most important point in the rest of our lives. We will be at a point of major decisions that will have profound consequences. Will martial law occur, trade barriers, and or conflicts. Could there be cooperation and policies that promote mitigation of consequences that are finally accepted as inevitable.
We will almost surely see food and fuel shortages. The likely outcome will be hoarding. We saw this happen immediately in Asia the last rice supply problem we had a few years ago. Hoarding will result in famines and failed states. We are close to a point where the irreversibility of a brittle system breaks into a new arrangement. What arrangement that results in is not predictable. What is predictable is the results will be less with a trend of less IOW descending an energy and complexity gradient. We know what that means we just don’t know how that will translate into our global world and our delocalized local in descent.
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