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US Military Establishment Study Admits The American Empire Is “Collapsing”
A new study conducted by members of the U.S. military establishment has concluded that the U.S.-led international global order established after World War II is “fraying” and may even be “collapsing” as the U.S. continues to lose its position of “primacy” in world affairs.
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“In brief, the status quo that was hatched and nurtured by U.S. strategists after World War II and has for decades been the principal ‘beat’ for DoD is not merely fraying but may, in fact, be collapsing,” the report states.
The report, published in June by the U.S. Army War College’s Strategic Studies Institute, evaluated the Department of Defense’s (DOD) approach to risk assessment at all levels of Pentagon policy planning. The study was supported and sponsored by the U.S. Army’s Strategic Plans and Policy Directorate; the Joint Staff, J5 (Strategy and Policy Branch); the Office of the Deputy Secretary of Defense for Strategy and Force Development; and the Army Study Program Management Office.
Imperial hubris
As explained by Nathan Freier, the project director and principal author of the report, the U.S. and its defense establishment “are stumbling through a period of hypercompetition.” From Freier’s point of view, the current era is marred with furious battles for positional advantage at a number of levels, whether national, transnational, or extra-national. Freier explains that America’s failure to cope is the result of “hubris,” which is reminiscent of Imperial Hubris, a book by Michael Scheuer, the former head of the CIA’s bin Laden unit. Imperial Hubris also warned the U.S. about the very controversial and hubristic reasons it was losing the war on terror (hubris means “exaggerated pride or self-confidence,” according to Merriam-Webster).
Technically, the report does not officially represent the Pentagon, though it does represent the “collective wisdom” of those consulted – including a number of Pentagon officials and prominent think tanks such as the American Enterprise Institute, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), the RAND Corporation, and the Institute for the Study of War.
Nevertheless, the report involved consultation with key agencies across the DoD and the Armed Forces and encouraged the U.S. government to invest more heavily in surveillance, better propaganda through “strategic manipulation” of public opinion, and a “wider and more flexible” U.S. military. The report states:
“While as a rule, U.S. leaders of both political parties have consistently committed to the maintenance of U.S. military superiority over all potential state rivals, the post-primacy reality demands a wider and more flexible military force that can generate advantage and options across the broadest possible range of military demands. To U.S. political leadership, maintenance of military advantage preserves maximum freedom of action… Finally, it allows U.S. decision-makers the opportunity to dictate or hold significant sway over outcomes in international disputes in the shadow of significant U.S. military capability and the implied promise of unacceptable consequences in the event that capability is unleashed.”
The year-long study concluded that the DoD should discard its outdated risk conventions and change how it describes, identifies, assesses, and communicates strategic-level and risk-based choices. As investigative journalist Nafeez Ahmed observed, these are the very strategies that have led to the U.S.’ declining power in the first place. Further enacting these failed strategies will only exacerbate the problem and demonstrates America’s refusal to go down without a fight.
The blame lies with resistant states
According to Freier and his team, the dangers currently challenging the U.S. don’t just come from countries like Russia and China (and even North Korea and Iran), but also from the increasing risk of “Arab Spring”-style events that could potentially erupt all over the world. One might wonder, then, why the U.S. decided to support a number of these events, even to the great benefit of known jihadist movements that already existed within them.
Ahmed also astutely points out that the report doesn’t actually substantiate its claims that countries like Russia are a genuine threat to America’s national security, aside from the fact that these countries seek to pursue their own core interests – as most countries should be free to do (within reason).
According to the report, Iran and North Korea are “… neither the products of, nor are they satisfied with, the contemporary order… At a minimum, they intend to destroy the reach of the U.S.-led order into what they perceive to be their legitimate sphere of influence. They are also resolved to replace that order locally with a new rule set dictated by them.”
It is notable that the report does not list Iran and North Korea as nuclear threats — as traditional neoconservative propaganda often asserts — but simply as perceived threats to the American-led world order.
The report also found that the international framework has been restructured in ways that are “inhospitable” and often “hostile” to U.S. leadership. For example, “proliferation, diversification, and atomization of effective counter-U.S. resistance,” as well as “resurgent but transformed great power competition” are seen to be at the heart of this new international restructuring. According to the report, the U.S. is not prepared for these circumstances, and the report seeks to provide the U.S. with guidance to deal with these emerging scenarios.
In all seriousness, hostility to the U.S. military did not develop in a vacuum – it is quite clearly the sheer arrogance of America’s leadership and its incessant meddling in foreign affairs that have created a number of adversaries who are no longer willing to bow to American interests.
The “wake up call”
Though the report throws the word “adapt” around often, the U.S. is clearly not willing to adapt at all if the only way it can deal with its issues is to strengthen the very sources of said issues in the first place. If the only tool the U.S. has is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail. The more problems the U.S. faces, the more nails it sees in need of quashing.
While some may laud a report in which advisors to the U.S. have acknowledged America’s status as a dying power, the truth, as demonstrated in this recent analysis, is that the U.S. will not give up its place in global affairs without a fight.
As the report states, the reality of this looming collapse should not be seen as defeatism, but rather, should be a “wake up call.”
Take the Syrian conflict, for example. The more places Assad’s military liberates, the more refugees are returning home and the more concerts are being held. Syria, Russia, and Iran have achieved these mounting successes even in the face of direct American intervention – and yet the U.S. still refuses to leave the country. Irrespective of crimes committed by the pro-Assad axis, if the ultimate objective has been to reduce the suffering in Syria and end the war, the U.S. should admit defeat and move on — especially once ISIS’ caliphate collapses entirely. But the U.S. won’t – and is reportedly considering greater involvement in the war-torn country.
The U.S. knows it is on the brink of collapse but refuses to go down peacefully. From the point of view of the powers-that-be, as long as every nail of resistance can be broken, the American hammer will continue to lead the world in international affairs. But even as this report indicates, it is precisely because of America’s hubris that it has found itself in this position in the first place. In this context, the report is somewhat contradictory and only further encourages the United States to provoke further hostility from aggrieved players on the world stage.
Carrying on these practices and exacerbating them is totally nonsensical, but doing so continues to be the go-to mantra of the U.S. war machine.
83 Comments on "US Military Establishment Study Admits The American Empire Is “Collapsing”"
penury on Wed, 19th Jul 2017 4:14 pm
To paraphrase someone “if you like this bullshit, you can keep this bullshit”
Apneaman on Wed, 19th Jul 2017 5:09 pm
Pentagon Study Declares American Empire Is ‘Collapsing’
Report demands massive expansion of military-industrial complex to maintain global ‘access to resources’
By Nafeez Ahmed
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47462.htm
At Our Own Peril: DoD Risk Assessment in a Post-Primacy World
https://ssi.armywarcollege.edu/pubs/display.cfm?pubID=1358
Nafeez has it right, but so? It’s what empires do. If the American empire stands down or crumbles another tribe will immediately attempt to fill the void. Same as when a species goes extinct another species comes along to fill/exploit the niche. Again, no one is choosing – programming.
sunweb on Wed, 19th Jul 2017 6:48 pm
“When a species goes extinct another species comes along to fill/exploit the niche.” What will fill the niche? Our overriding complexity has imposed our processes on a pretty big niche. I don’t mean when we are gone. When we are reduced via overshoot and all its associations and results.
Makati1 on Wed, 19th Jul 2017 6:58 pm
Sorry, I disagree Ap. It is not programming. It is pure power greed. The U$ empire is being deliberately destroyed by the multinationals who don’t give a damn about America, just power. The One World Government crowd.
You have to keep in mind that this piece of propaganda from the DOD and Pentagon is just that, bullshit propaganda. It is the generals and the MIC that does not want the empire to end. It means the end of their gravy train and power. There will be all kinds of ‘leaks’ and ‘studies’ as the decline gains speed. Most will be laughable or sad.
The average American doesn’t even know or care that the U$ is an empire. and, if they are under 30, probably don’t even know what an ’empire’ is. They are so dumbed down and brainwashed that they might not even know what month it is. Slogans like ‘exceptional/indispensable’ may be parroted by them when they are asked, but deep thought. Nope.
Past history is no guarantee of the future path. We are in a new world where death is the push of a red button. No long lasting land wars between major powers. The world could be shared, but the U$ will not allow that. Spoiled from plundering the planet for the last 70+ years has destroyed the old America. To live on their 5% share instead of the 25+% they currently consume, would be terrible in their minds. Too bad. That day, and worse, is coming.
bobinget on Wed, 19th Jul 2017 7:10 pm
https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2017/05/04/russian-oil-deals-offer-a-lifeline-for-venezuelas-embattled-maduro/#1b7cef3228b2
Trump threatens sanctions on Venezuela.
(instead of sending food, medicine, consumer goods, Trump, determined to help China, Russia at all cost, defies logic and threatens sanctions)
deadlykillerbeaz on Wed, 19th Jul 2017 7:16 pm
One word: Caput.
Two words: Not there.
Three words: It is collapsing.
Four more words: They can’t afford it.
Five more words: There is no more money.
There it was, gone.
Ghung on Wed, 19th Jul 2017 7:18 pm
Mak said; “To live on their 5% share instead of the 25+% they currently consume, would be terrible in their minds. Too bad. That day, and worse, is coming.”
It’s more than that, Mak. The entire American economy is built around that 25%; jobs, infrastructure, education, health care, entitlements,, all of it. My fellow Americans won’t handle contraction well, but they won’t be alone. Cash those checks while you can.
Pax Americana never worked anyway, in any real sense.
Apneaman on Wed, 19th Jul 2017 7:23 pm
sunweb, microbes are always looking to exploit any niche they can. The humans managed to close the door on them for a short time, but their greed has opened it a crack and it will be flung wide open if no new medicines are developed. An everything old is new again deal.
Superbug report reveals rise in antibiotic-resistant gonorrhoea
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-19/superbug-report-reveals-rise-in-antibiotic-resistance-gonorrhoea/8720598
New Study Addresses Prevalence of Multidrug-resistant Tuberculosis in Children
http://www.contagionlive.com/news/new-study-addresses-prevalence-of-multidrug-resistant-tuberculosis-in-children
Here in BC the pine beetles have exploited a warming world. Same in many other places with various insects.
“The beetles are killed by very cold winter weather, which historically has kept their numbers in check. They attack mature trees by boring through the bark and mining the phloem (living tissue in vascular plants that carries organic nutrients).”
http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/industry/forestry/managing-our-forest-resources/forest-health/forest-pests/bark-beetles/mountain-pine-beetle
Evolution never stops.
Apneaman on Wed, 19th Jul 2017 7:31 pm
Mak, where does greed come from, Mars? All human behaviour is a product of evolution. Good, bad or indifferent. There has never been any civilization where those at the top of the hierarchy have not been greedy. The degree of greed and poor treatment of the commoners waxes and wanes depending on the situation. What’s happening now, the apparent insanity of most leaders and the overlords, is not an anomaly, it’s a repeat performance that’s been played out untold thousands of times.
If their greed (behaviour) is not rooted in evolution then where does it come from?
Makati1 on Wed, 19th Jul 2017 7:51 pm
Greed was not possible in prehistory. They killed just enough to live, not to build mansions. Yes, greed exists, but it has only become the dominant force in the places where it was/is possible. If you are limited to your own muscle power to survive, you have little possibility to feed your ‘greed’ genes. It IS possible to live in a shared world.
Some have tried but been killed of by the few who wanted more. Recently, those plunders have been mostly in the ME. I hope they stay there. Should I name the sovereign countries invaded by the U$ for gain?
All I said was that the U$ has been living an exceedingly greedy lifestyle at the expense of most of the rest of the world for 70+ years and it is time it ends. And it will. So be it. Prepare.
boat on Wed, 19th Jul 2017 8:19 pm
The US powerful than any country in the history of human exhistance. It is more accurate to say a country like China is playing catch up. There are many like minded countries that tip the scale of power economicaly, politicaly and militarily. There is no balance, just a few backwater nations.
Makati1 on Wed, 19th Jul 2017 8:24 pm
For all of you Russiphobes and especially Boat…
https://journal-neo.org/2017/07/19/a-tale-of-two-nations-russia-vs-usa-economic-prospects/
“In brief, the United States, when the falsified US Government economic data are stripped away, is falling deeper into debt and decay as money and Wall Street mega-banks reign supreme like Gods of Money. Russia in contrast is growing slowly but definitely out of its economic and infrastructure deficit of the past decades, in fact of the past century since the Western-backed Lenin coup d’etat of 1917. While the United States over the past five decades has been tearing down its once prospering cities, infrastructure and industry, Russia is building up its national economy on an advanced technological basis with some of the most creative scientific and engineering minds on Earth. As Moody’s or S&P language might put it, “USA economy: Outlook Negative going forward; Russia economy: Outlook Positive going forward.”
Ah, but you wouldn’t want your brainwashed ideas about Russia put into doubt…so you will not read this.
boat on Wed, 19th Jul 2017 8:43 pm
mak,
I have never been against Russia or it’s people. The Russion economy and standard of living for the average joe just isnt good. China either for that matter. Your predictions of a US collasp is silly talk. I wish we would grow slower.
Apneaman on Wed, 19th Jul 2017 9:00 pm
boat, you old stick in the mud – haven’t heard from you much. I hope you are not unwell.
Jef on Wed, 19th Jul 2017 9:05 pm
Ape – “All human behavior is a product of evolution.” Bull Shit!
This is a convenient way of sinking into denial so you don’t have to do anything.
All Human behavior is elicited from environmental conditions. We have allowed ourselves to be structured under a system/an environment that absolutely brings out the worst behavior in humans and it doesn’t have to be that way. It has NOT always been that way.
Anonymouse on Wed, 19th Jul 2017 9:23 pm
By not’unwell’ do you mean ‘not mentally retarded?’ If so, little too late for that. That boatard has already left the dock…
Apneaman on Wed, 19th Jul 2017 9:37 pm
Mak, tis true that hunter gather tribes were/are highly egalitarian and that’s because they were small and interdependent. If one alpha male got too greedy he could easily be ganged up on and killed or a number of folks could just up and leave to the next valley and start their own tribe.
Everything changed when humans took up agriculture, [after they hunted all the mega fauna to extinction – no other choice but to die] became stationary and produced abundance. That is when the hierarchy and social stratification started and we are still living it today, but at a much more complex level.
I recently read an interesting book by British historian Ian Morris. He makes a very compelling case how war has increased prosperity and complexity. It’s culture evolution which is a powerful force in it’s own right, but biological evolution can’t be trumped.
WAR! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?
Conflict and the Progress of Civilization from Primates to Robots
by Ian Morris
“A profoundly uncomfortable but provocative argument that “productive war” promotes greater safety, a decrease in violence and economic growth.”
“He uses the example of ancient Rome—its violent conquests ensured subsequent safety and improved lives for the survivors—then gives us a tour through world history, focusing on such things as the development of weapons and defenses. We learn why chariot fighting rose and fell, the problems of using elephants in battle, the significance of the horse, and the importance of gunpowder and ships, and we get some grim details—e.g., the use of the flaming fat of victims as an early Molotov cocktail. Drawing on the work of Jared Diamond and Steven Pinker and myriads of others, Morris relentlessly develops his thesis, which never decreases in discomfort, though it does become more convincing. Near the end, the author examines evolutionary biology and the balance between violence and cooperation in our rise from what he calls “globs” to the complicated creatures that we now are. Emerging also is his concept of the “globocop”—a country so powerful that it can police the world (to a point) and eventually move us toward “Denmark,” his metaphor for a peaceful, productive place. The author does a bit of crystal-balling at the end. Will there be robo-wars? Will the United States eventually tumble?”
https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/ian-morris-79345/war-what-is-it-good-for/
https://youtu.be/ebRpquKFSEw?t=153
I don’t agree with Morris on all counts, but his thesis that incorporating the losers into a new economic empire after war has merit. Is that not what the US and allies did after WWII?
Since civilization started why has there has always been a hierarchy? Why has there always been war? Why has there always been greedy power hungry people? These aren’t bugs, they’re features.
Makati1 on Wed, 19th Jul 2017 11:28 pm
Boat; “Your predictions of a US collasp is silly talk”
Denial and insanity are brothers, Boat. And you did not include the U$ in those countries with a low standard of living for the average Joe.
Why? “…the 109,631,000 whom the Census Bureau says were getting benefits from means-tested federal programs — e.g. welfare…” (2013 and the numbers are even higher now.)
http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/354-percent-109631000-welfare
When those teats are pulled, the U$ will officially be 3rd world. And that day is fast approaching Boat. Deny all you want but you are going to be hit in the face with that 2X4 of reality in the not too distant future. Reality is a bitch!
Makati1 on Wed, 19th Jul 2017 11:36 pm
Ap, if we are lucky enough to survive the coming collapse, there is a chance we can go back to the small tribal economy of the past, if climate change allows it.
Yes, wars are mostly for plunder and rape. Greed is a learned trait. I do not believe it is in our genes, but it is so deeply embedded in the West, and some of their wannabees, that it seems like part of our genetic makeup.
Apneaman on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 12:41 am
jef, “We have allowed ourselves to be structured under a system/an environment that absolutely brings out the worst behavior in humans”
Where did the system come from? Mars? No it’s a product of a highly intelligent super social ape. The blueprint for the system stretches all the way back to Sumer and probably even further.
Care to explain how that allowing works. Why have the humans allowed so much so many times over all of history? At what point in time did this allowing take place? Was the allowing a group decision that y’all voted on or is it individual allowing that just happens to form a consensus?
Give me some dates and places on this magic land you think once existed and I’ll give you a proper history lesson. Pick any place or time and I will show you another unequal hierarchy with an oligarchy, king/emperor and aristocracy and priest class, theocracy and aristocracy, tyrant, dictator (benevolent or otherwise) or so called democracy. Small ruling class and large underclass. Doesn’t matter which one you pick. I will demonstrate major inequality, slavery (economic or chattel) and show how it’s all undergirded by a state monopoly on violence and the threat of violence or some penalty and the conquest and subjugation of others (always justified for nobel reasons).
You can also apply the hierarchy blueprint to most organizations and institutions and find it fits – Corporation, Church, Military, NGO’s and on and on.
jef, why have the humans allowed themselves to be structured under a system/an environment that absolutely brings out the worst behavior in humans time and time again?
If your waiting for the humans to allow themselves to be structured under a system/an environment that absolutely brings out the BEST behavior in humans you will need to find a portal to another dimension.
Stick around and you’ll see plenty of flashes of humans at their best – sacrifice, altruism, heroism. sharing, helping, love etc, but unlike in the movies they are too few and far between – just flashes. If you have a person in your life who exhibits those virtues, then that’s as good as it gets.
Cloggie on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 2:35 am
If the American empire stands down or crumbles another tribe will immediately attempt to fill the void.
America is not a “tribe”, not anymore. The very fact that it is not a tribe, like it was in the first half of the 20th century, is precisely one of the most important factors of its decline.
And yes, another “tribe” will fill the void and that “tribe” is China. This graph perfectly illustrates the situation:
http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/5410afdd69bedd8a035253c3-480/top-global-economies.jpg
By 1910, the US overtook the British empire and by 1941 the US was in a position to destroy Europe as a deliberate act, thanks to its de facto 1933 coalition with the USSR, both the US and USSR being kosher run operations.
One century later (now), the US is being overtaken by China and there is no Pentagon panic program that can do anything about it.
This fascinating graph sums it up perfectly:
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/20160612_nothing.jpg
Every geopolitical bully gets a century to dominate and then is forced to step down, just like a human is forced to die after 80 or so years.
Unlike what Zerohedge thinks, namely world government by the UN in the 21st century, that is not going to happen. The #1 in the 21st century will be China. That major geopolitical fact will dictate the alliances of the rest. The 21st century will not be in the globalist image of the kosher Sanhedrin ruling America, but in the image of Samuel Huntington: “Clash of Civilizations”, an identitarian world order. America, that racial-communist experiment, will fall apart as a consequence, just like the USSR fell apart, that economic-communist experiment.
The US powerful than any country in the history of human exhistance. It is more accurate to say a country like China is playing catch up. There are many like minded countries that tip the scale of power economicaly, politicaly and militarily.
Typical American delusions. Every time America was put to the test militarily it failed miserably: Korea, Vietnam, Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq. Boat likes to think that every American is a John Wayne/Bruce Willis. Boat is the victim of Hollywood illusions. In WW2 America showed up at the end and mainly excelled by bombing/nuking women and children from safe altitude.
One of the more thoughtful Americans, Pat Buchanan, has better intuitions than a leftist “anti-racist” libtard snowflake like you:
https://www.amazon.com/Suicide-Superpower-Will-America-Survive/dp/0312579977/ref=sr_1_1
And no, America won’t make it until 2025 in one piece.
Only countries with a homogeneous ethnic-religious population have a future. Mixed “countries” like the US will go under due to ethnic strife that in the end will lead to civil war, genocide and in the end Balkanization.
There is no balance, just a few backwater nations.
The only backwater nation meanwhile is the US itself and its rapidly decaying infrastructure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e_bM7WCehY
As Paul Craig Roberts has repeatedly said, America will be a third world country by 2024, that’s very soon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOMsCUeZ6rw
The elections of 2016 have shown that the majority of European-Americans have enough of what the left, including boat and most others here, have in store for them. Soon they will decide that this America is no longer their country and they will secede from both coastal areas. Bye-bye libtards.
http://i37.tinypic.com/2jea15.jpghttp://i37.tinypic.com/2jea15.jpg
Makati1 on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 5:36 am
Cloggie, you summed up the U$ situation very well.
boat on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 5:36 am
lol mak,
You can have a family of 3, make $20,000 and still qualify for varius programs. The US poor and most other countries poor don’t compare. In Russia for example if you make 20,000, you are an above average earner and will not recieve gov help. This disinformation campain of yours does not hold water with little scrunity. What you think you gain with your bs is a curiosity.
Hello on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 5:36 am
>>> Mixed “countries” like the US will go under
Only in tough times. In good times, it’s not much of a problem. And times are still very good (for both europe and US). And according to you, europe even has a new golden age comming. So brace yourself. More negros marching in while well fed and well clothed natives sit idle watching tv and drinking heineken (instead of having babies).
Makati1 on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 5:50 am
Boat, get a brain. Comparing dollars is not comparing cost of living. PPP is a better comparison, but you would not understand it.
For example:
Haircuts in the U$ = $12+
Haircuts in the Ps = $2
Doctor in the U$ = $45++
Doctor in the Ps = $14
Tooth crown in U$ = $1,200++
Same in the Ps = $120
Taxi in the U$ $60 for 10 miles on the interstate (15 minutes)
Taxi here $3 for 3 miles in the city (25 minutes)
Etc.
ALL equal or better in quality than I got in the U$.
YOU are trying to compare apples and rocks. A family of five cannot live in America on $20 per day. (~$8,000/yr) Our caretaker’s family of five does and they have electric, cell phone and TV. The daughter is gong to college also. Try that on $20 per day.
Makati1 on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 5:53 am
Hello, are you one of the 1%? Only the top percentage are still ‘living good’ in the U$ or EU. But, dream on. It only hurts when you fall.
boat on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 5:54 am
clog,
Until the smart phone the chinese couldnt even talk or trade effectively. 27 dialects? They have become great at copying world tech but will still need decades to be as rich as the collasped US. lol
Hello on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 5:57 am
Well, of course Mak, I’m a 1%. Same as you. And you even maximize your 1% social security bang for the buck by living in the 3rd world. I on the other hand pay Swiss prices, and I can tell you, they even make a 1% feel poor.
Makati1 on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 6:18 am
Cloggie, we have to accept that Boat is too far gone to expect logic from him. He has government ‘Koolaid’ for blood and has lost the ability to think. All he can do is parrot U$ propaganda like most Americans.
Makati1 on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 6:19 am
Hello, I moved to the Ps for other reasons than cost of living. But, I will not enumerate them here. Let’s say it is a better place to live than the U$ and leave it at that.
Cloggie on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 6:40 am
And according to you, europe even has a new golden age comming.
That wasn’t me saying that, but your own countryman Hildebrand sitting on top of the world’s largest moneybag of 6 trillion $:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM9_PrBoq9Q
More negros marching in while well fed and well clothed natives sit idle watching tv and drinking heineken (instead of having babies).
You are talking about your own Switzerland, eh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiLmnUD-de4
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2008/04/heineken_to_buy_swiss_brewery/
JuanP on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 6:46 am
Boat, The Chinese had the largest economy in the world for 18 of the last 20 centuries until the white people attacked and destroyed their country. They are recovering now and I doubt they will ever give us another chance to do that again. The USA didn’t even exist then, just like it won’t exist in a hudred years. The USA is a short lasting experiment in failure and it is destroying itself from the inside out. If you can’t see that you must be living in denial. I have understood that the USA is heading in the wrong direction for more than 25 years. Wake up and smell the roses, buddy!
Davy on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 8:00 am
makati, i have a much better life than you do. See makati, what does that prove? It proves I have an opinion as an individual. Last thing in the world for me would be to live in the middle Manila one of the mostly densely populated cities in the world. A small apartment shared with a boyfriend 27 floors above chaos.
Life is good here and no amount of badmouthing from you and other anti-Americantards will change that. Life sucks for many here but it does everywhere else too. The US will likely be one of he last man standing. You asswipe anti-Americans can whine, bitch, and moan but that won’t change things. Who friggen cares about empire anymore. It is all about a globally connected world. Nations don’t really matter. It is now regions. Nations are a mix of growth and decay. There are plenty of dynamics places in the US. You pissed of old white men can circle jerk all you like but life is so much more intricate than you dumbasses can fathom.
boat on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 8:01 am
JuanP,
What I remember is the US ending the agression of Japan in many countries including China. The US invited China to join the rest of the free world and have made great gains. In fact Asia in general has done much better since the US took the role as the worlds only super power.
Cloggie on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 8:15 am
boat opines: In fact Asia in general has done much better since the US took the role as the worlds only super power.
No country did more harm to China than China itself: tens of millions wasted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution
World communism was actively promoted by the US deep state world-wide, both in Russia and in China. The whole Roosevelt government was riddled with communists. They ensured that Eastern Europe ended up under Stalin.
https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/history/item/4691-china-betrayed-into-communism
Dean Acheson, who as a young attorney had represented Soviet interests in America, became Assistant Secretary of State in 1941. As such, he ensured the State Department’s Far Eastern Division was dominated by communists and pro-communists, including Alger Hiss (subsequently proven a Soviet spy); John Carter Vincent, director of the Office of Far Eastern Affairs, later identified by Daily Worker editor Louis Budenz as a communist; John Stewart Service, Foreign Service Officer in China who turned State Department information over to the Chinese communists, and was arrested by the FBI in the Amerasia spy case (about which more later); Foreign Service Officer John P. Davies, who consistently lobbied for the communists; Owen Lattimore, appointed U.S. adviser to Chiang Kai-shek but identified as a communist by ex-communists Whittaker Chambers and Elizabeth Bentley; and several others.
“Free world” my foot.
Your Constitution is a left over from your European heritage, a heritage you are too weak to protect and carry on. Many here (ghung, sissyfuss) would prefer communism.
Who friggen cares about empire anymore.
Entire Washington minus Trump + Dems + East and West coast.
Makati1 on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 8:32 am
Davy, you have nothing. You live in a police state that is fast failing. Would you like me to enumerate the negatives you “enjoy”? The list would fill books. Denial and waiving that bloody flag will not change your future. It is already bad and getting worse.
Again, you pretend to know all about me though you never met me and never will. You keep making up a lifestyle for me, that is pure bullshit. Perhaps you have no real male friends whom you could be in business with without sex? I have. My future is not based on a sexual relationship but trust and friendship. I don’t want to own anything because the Police State of the U$ would want to know and want a piece of it. I have arranged it so that is not possible. You cannot. They even know when you shit and how much. They know very little about me and I want to keep it that way.
Since you have never been here, you have nothing to judge the Ps by except U$ MSM propaganda. Go tend your goats. They miss you. No one else will.
onlooker on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 8:50 am
Good riddance, the only good Empire is no empire
Davy on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 9:01 am
“Entire Washington minus Trump + Dems + East and West coast.” Cloggie, I am referring to those awakened to reality of a different world from the one we knew 15 years ago. No nation can act unilaterally anymore without consequences including the US. This includes the economic and political spheres. These spheres are increasingly blurred. The so called empire is a facade that is little more than a thin veneer covering a new multilateral reality.
Anti-American Eurotards, Anglosphere squares, Asiaphiles limp dicks get lost in the “we” and “them”. American exceptionalist likewise are deluding themselves. One need only watch what happens financially when government tries to do something extreme. Financial acquiescence steps in to temper any extremes. Politically there are too many interests reacting to extreme actions. These interests are increasingly multi-national.
The world is at locked into an extended state of overshoot. In some places this is extreme and already fraying. In other areas growth and dynamism is apparent but still lacking sustainability and resilience. Those areas in growth and dynamism are in fact parasitic. The degree of complexity of areas most productive and dynamic requires huge inputs from a globally sourced world. Globalism is unsustainable as-is and really in any configuration. Globalism lacks reliance’s for deep shocks. Small shocks are manageable. Smaller regions in collapse are manageable. The climate and ecosystem decline with its many localized failure is still manageable. Yet, how long can this continue?
No one knows the answer to that because we are now so far into uncharted waters there is no way to know this and sadly no way to return to a simpler time. The world is on an undulating plateau of growth and decline without clear direction. In this world what matters are global networks and their connectivity to places of power and support. These places of power and support are globally disperse nodes of specialization. These nodes are too big to fail so the system must maintain them or the whole system fails. Lobbyist the world over ply their agendas. It is a big mix of competitive cooperation all under the banner of affluence. The real power and productivity is spread out over a vast web.
This is why the Eurotards and Asiaphiles on this board are so delusional about their vaunted empires in waiting. They want their region to decouple and advance unilaterally but those times are long gone. They revise history as needed. They use facts to weave a narrative beneficial to their region while dismissing the reality of dispersion and connectivity. These tards are intellectually lazy and emotional. They are easy to spot. They haze, praise, blame and complain with emotions and half-baked futures.
Davy on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 9:05 am
I love when I shoot down your bullshit makati. You are nothing but a whining old man who lives in his small little world bragging and boasting about fantasies. My goats and cattle are a concrete effort at survival in hard times. What do you have but maybe a potted lemon tree in your little apartment? Your fantasy farm is a joke because you are never there. We all have fantasies just some realize the difference.
Dredd on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 9:06 am
“GOP-Led House Approves Defense Bill Declaring Climate Change a ‘Direct Threat to National Security'” (TIME).
Dredd Blog is on the record reporting that fact for over seven years now (Global Climate & Homeland Insecurity).
Makati1 on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 9:31 am
Enjoy your life Davy. It is soon going to get much worse. You are reduced to calling names and trying to cut down those whom you disagree with because you have nothing to prove your assertions otherwise. I laugh at you and your attempts because they are so pathetic.
Makati1 on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 9:33 am
I have to agree onlooker. The sooner this one (U$) shatters, the better for the rest of the world.
Cloggie on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 9:37 am
This is why the Eurotards and Asiaphiles on this board are so delusional about their vaunted empires in waiting.
I never talk about a new “empire”, per definition governed from a single center. I’m talking about a European confederation (Putin does that too) and a Commonwealth of European peoples.
No empire.
Davy on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 9:54 am
Confederation is a poker term. Empire is always the end game for such arrangements because of the corruption principal of power.
Cloggie on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 10:17 am
Switzerland is a confederation for centuries, where Germans, French and Italians live peacefully togethet in one country… because they have little to do with each others and are geographically separated, not mixed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eidgenossenschaft
Davy on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 10:33 am
Switzerland is an ass pimple compared to the continental arrangements we are talking about. Let’s get real about scale.
Cloud9 on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 10:48 am
The current empire is a direct result of the exponential growth of government. This exponential growth was made possible by the creative financing envisioned by the founders of the Federal Reserve. Once the federal check book was separated from actual tax revenues, the game was on. We have witnessed this exponential growth of foreign wars and domestic meddling for more than a century. The welfare state we have created is only possible because never ending boundless debt is available to the system. This all works well right until the moment it doesn’t.
We all have read the short stories of Weimar Germany and Zimbabwe. We have watched the process play out in Argentina, Venezuela and a host of other countries. We know how it ends. We just don’t know when. The massive construct that is the American Empire is built on a Ponzi scheme that will end in the same way that all Ponzi schemes end.
We have topped out. Bankrupt territories, bankrupt cities, bankrupt states are harbingers of a bankrupt nation. The Soviet Union collapsed because it could no longer afford to continue. The Stasi unraveled because the pay checks stopped and their pension plans ended. Some of their more egregious members were prosecuted and their secret files were opened to public scrutiny. Devolution of the complex system financed by the federal Ponzi scheme is well under way. It is evidenced first in the hinterlands but it time this devolution will migrate to the core.
We need to wrap our minds around the fact that the death of the empire is not necessarily the death of America. The Federal system at its inception was designed to create a functioning national government while embracing a host of subcultures existing in the various states. The federal government along with the states must recognize that they can no longer afford to force their omnipresent, omnipotent will on divergent cultures.
The cultural lines were drawn by the last election map. A county by county review reveals the urban bastions of blue surrounded by a sea of red. The two dominant cultures in America clearly divide between urban and rural. We must figure out a way for these divergent cultures to self determine their political and economic structures. If we don’t systemic collapse may result.
A place to begin would be to roll back the one size fits all stance held by the federalists.
Here is a good article that discusses the upcoming American divorce. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448385/americans-left-right-liberal-conservative-democrats-republicans-blue-red-states-cultural-segregate
Hello on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 12:41 pm
I know, Clog. The worst is you’re not even allowed to defend your homeland against the invasion. Can you believe that? I go to jail if I try that. What a sad sad state of affairs.
BTW last time I was in Amsterdam (20 years ago) brown sludge was already omnipresent. I don’t think it’s gotten any better meanwhile, right? 🙂
And yes, that’s why I mentioned heineken. Them bastards buy all the good beer and convert it into their pisswasser.
Apneaman on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 12:45 pm
Cloud9, insightful comments and well written article.
Apneaman on Thu, 20th Jul 2017 1:21 pm
Hello, so you would never risk imprisonment, injury or death like Nelson Mandela or Mahatma Gandhi or Martin Luther King Jr to defend your homeland, people and principles?
If your personal freedom trumps your convictions then they can’t mean all that much to you.
Why not start a movement like those men did instead of sitting around complaining and waiting for permission and waiting for somebody to do something?
I do not know if you could make changes in your country by doing the tremendous amount of work and sacrifice it takes to start a movement, but I do know it can’t be done by bitching and moaning on the internet every day.
Maybe you don’t have what those brown men had? Perhaps they are the superior ones? Did they not take on nation states and empires and force change? Kinda hard to argue against the success of their movements.
Courage of convictions – either one has it or they don’t.