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Turkey’s defection
By embracing BRICS just a year and a half after being spurned by the EU, Turkey signals that it has turned the Eurasian hub decisively toward the east, whether or not Europe gets up the courage to distance itself from the United States.
AFTER a multi-year see-saw between an overwhelmingly Christian EU and Muslim Turkey seeking membership, in 2015, 1.5 million people illegally crossed into Europe, many by hop-scotching from Turkey to Greece. Although desperate for a solution to this growing problem, the EU did not finally offer Turkey accession, which would have brought it under Brussels control, but merely granted Turkish citizens visa-free travel. In return for Turkey staunching the flow and taking back economic migrants whose asylum applications had been turned down in EU countries, while also handing out to Ankara three billion euros. The following year it turned out that Erdogan, who had already granted refuge to more than two million Syrian refugees, wanted to be paid the same amount every year.
Confronted with this situation, when the Turkish president clamped down on human rights and took over his country’s legal system following a failed coup, the European Parliament suspended negotiations over accession. This was a bitter disappointment for Turks, many of whose relatives had immigrated over decades to bolster Europe’s work-force, however it resolved the EU’s problem of openness versus reluctance to accept a Muslim country in its midst. Now, the EU may be regretting its decision.
Since 1950, Turkey has been considered a crucial member of NATO, described for decades as ‘the bulwark’ against the key strategic area on ‘the Soviet Union’s/Russia’s southern flank’. After the 2016 failed coup, Turkey ’s turn toward a positive relationship with Russia’s president Vladimir Putin not only puts an end to centuries of Ottoman-Russian competition for influence over the Dardanelles/Black Sea Euro-Asian hub, it could be potentially cataclysmic for ‘the West’.
Last week, as a guest at the 10th Leaders’ Summit of BRICS countries, Erdogan waxed eloquent over that group’s achievements and what his country would bring to the table if invited to join. Although BRICS represents 42% of the world’s population, the US media tends to ignore it, however, the same is not true for Europe, which recognizes the multi-polar world being built by Russia, China, India, Brazil and South Africa.
Not only would the recruitment of Turkey add a leading Muslim country to that project; by embracing the BRICS just a year and a half after being spurned by the EU, Turkey signals that it has turned the Eurasian hub decisively toward the east, whether or not Europe gets up the courage to distance itself from the United States.
New Eastern Outlook, August 2. Deena Stryker is an international expert, author and journalist who has been at the forefront of international politics for over thirty years and writes exclusively for the online journal New Eastern Outlook.
26 Comments on "Turkey’s defection"
makati1 on Fri, 3rd Aug 2018 7:43 pm
The Empire seems to be losing at every turn.
“China Says Willing to Team with Syria’s Assad in Push to Retake Territory”
“China’s ambassador to Damascus has reportedly told Syrian media that Beijing is prepared to aid the government’s push to retake territory throughout the country…
We – China and its military – wish to develop our relations with the Syrian Army.”
http://www.atimes.com/article/china-says-willing-to-team-with-syrias-assad-in-push-to-retake-territory/
Slip slidin’…
Survivalist on Fri, 3rd Aug 2018 10:06 pm
Speaking about losing at every turn; it’ll be interesting to see the Iranian response to an Israeli-USA-KSA attack (Israeli bombers refuelled mid air over KSA by USAF) – it will likely be a strategy which breaks Israel’s strategic Lines of Control on oil imports – the tanker line to Ashkelon from Ceyhan Turkey and from Yanbu/Jeddah. The oil leaving Turkish port at Ceyhan originates in Northern Iraq/Kurdistan and moves over land by pipe and tanker truck. Not hard to mess Israel up. Google ‘Hezbollah Latin America’. Lots of Iranian options there too.
Cloggie on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 1:17 am
Not this commie lover and mud shark Deena Stryker from Philly again:
https://www.opednews.com/populum/uploadnic/Uploaded_500_91027_deenastryker_20180616_556_776.gif
We do not need our European workforce “bolstered” with Turkish Kebab jugglers. Europe already has 500 million people on a territory half that of the US. Idiots like Stryker are the reason why America is going down the drain.
Turkey was for decades a European Union ascension candidate and for ever will be.lol
Under US pressure the Turks were kept in the West as an ally, because Turkey was needed as a bulwark against communism.
Now communism is dead, thank God, and very few in Europe, other than the hard-left, are keen in voluntarily making Turkey the largest country in Europe. Thanks but no thanks.
Turkey meanwhile got the message and under Erdogan is busy abandoning secularism and turning Turkey in an Iranian-style theocracy, completely incompatible with the EU.
The winning formula for Europe is:
– Keep the Muslims/Africans out
– Turn Britain into a paying EU economic vassal, or in case of a hard-Brexit, turn them into the US 51st state
– Flirt with US-white nationalism/altright, with the purpose of loosening them from Washington and draw them into Eurosphere
– Open the door for the Russians (+Ukraine and Belorus) and turn Europe into the first address on the planet again, technological, economical and militarily, where Anglosphere is sinking away into third-worldism and ever lower standards.
Turkey is the natural leader of Sunni Islam and openly says so. If Turkey would team up with Iran, together they could completely finalize European/American colonialism in the Middle-East by dividing the Saudi-loot between them. Erdogan is not interested in escalation of the Sunni-Shia divide, very much unlike KSA.
The liberal West is dying and that is a good thing, so Europe can start all over again with Russia. The West is dead, long live the North, in strong opposition to the South, including Turkey. Fortress Europe, that is Gibraltar, the Mediterranean, Bosporus and Black Sea.
joe on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 1:29 am
The eu has lots of Islamic countries in it. France, Holland, Belgium, Sweden…..
If you discount atheists and people only formally ‘christian’ islam is already the dominant practised religion in Europe. Its over for Europe, its late stage crapitalism, mirrors the end of ancient Rome.
Cloggie on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 1:45 am
The eu has lots of Islamic countries in it. France, Holland, Belgium, Sweden…..
Actually, you “forgot” that London is the only majority Muslim capital in Europe. Just another Sarajevo. Britain is leaving the white world on the very moment continental Europe is heading for a victory of populism. Austria and Italy are already liberated from Anglo-Zionism, bye-bye joey-boy, mind the step on the way out, nobody is going to miss you.lol
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uTiANSbg8ss/maxresdefault.jpg
Holland of 17 million: 13 million ethnic Dutch, 2 million white foreigners, 2 million non-whites of which 900,000 Muslims. The idea that Holland is Muslim is absurd and the 900k that are within our borders are mobilizing populism, now the 2nd force in parliament.
If you discount atheists and people only formally ‘christian’ islam is already the dominant practised religion in Europe. Its over for Europe, its late stage crapitalism, mirrors the end of ancient Rome.
That’s wishful thinking from your part. Why would you want to “discount atheists”? Everybody is, part from these imported 7th century IQ85 zombies. That whole Christian suckerdom is dead, time for something new, something robust, something Roman.lol
[insert screaming Anglo harpies here: “fascists, Natzis”.ROFL]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yOZEiHLuVU
joe on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 3:05 am
With the eu surrounded by muslim countries even Russia has majority muslim regions, the eu is admitting Albania, Bosnia, etc you are right, it’s already over for European Christianity, you can’t defeat isis, its in the living soul of the koran, eu socialists like merkel, like you are dodo’s.
joe on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 3:18 am
Btw cloggie, you seem to try to imply I give a shit about London. The UK is fucked, just like everyone else. Climate change is already destroying european harvests food prices will rise and the spiral down the plughole will continue.
Cloggie on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 3:24 am
Btw cloggie, you seem to try to imply I give a shit about London. The UK is fucked, just like everyone else. Climate change is already destroying european harvests food prices will rise and the spiral down the plughole will continue.
Sure, sure, just another nihilist eh?
makati1 on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 4:00 am
The old “one – two” punch!
“Two Knockout Blows to US Imperialism: De-Dollarization and Hypersonic Weapons”
” Russia and China seem to be taking this very seriously, committed to the de-dollarization of their economies and the accelerated development of hypersonic weapons….
The transition phase we are going through, passing from a unipolar global order to a multipolar one, calls for careful observation. It is important to analyze the actions taken by two world powers, China and Russia, in defending and consolidating their sovereignty over the long term. Observing decisions taken by these two countries in recent years, we can discern a twofold strategy. One is economic, the other purely military. In both cases we observe strong cooperation between Moscow and Beijing. The merit of this alliance is paradoxically attributed to the attitude of various US administrations, from George Bush Senior through to Obama. The special relationship between Moscow and Beijing has been forged by a shared experience of Washington’s pressure over the last 25 years. Their shared mission now seems to be to contain the US’s declining imperial power and to shepherd the world from a unipolar world order, with Washington at the center of international relations, to a multipolar world order, with at least three global powers playing a major role in international relations.”
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/08/03/two-knockout-blows-us-imperialism-de-dollarization-hypersonic-weapons.html
“If this strategy proves successful, it will only be natural to start offering other countries the opportunity to hop onto the Eurasian train, enabling those willing to shift their military, economic and diplomatic leaning from the Atlantic to the Eurasian world. Given the momentous significance of India and Pakistan’s accession to the Shanghai Cooperation Organization as permanent members, it would seem that Moscow and Beijing are on track to eliminating the central role of the United States in international relations in favor of a multilateralism that will benefit everyone.”
I’ll let you read the rest. Slip slidin’…
Cloggie on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 4:16 am
Europa should jump on the Eurasian train. The populists are ready:
https://goo.gl/images/UFJFT7
https://goo.gl/images/UjBXj4
https://goo.gl/images/oAL389
Davy on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 6:05 am
” Russia and China seem to be taking this very seriously, committed to the de-dollarization of their economies and the accelerated development of hypersonic weapons….”
Dedollarization is going nowhere. It will make a dent in the global economy but that is about it. There is endless talk about this issue but few changes have resulted. The emotional anti-American types mostly dwell on this like billy turd world. Hypersonic weapons are untested and exotic. They are little different than having NUK weapons and won’t be used except in a MAD war. The US is developing them and already has the technology. Big whoop billy turd world.
Cloggie on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 8:50 am
“Dedollarization is going nowhere.“
Is that so?
https://goo.gl/images/pnXC4T
Dollar-Euro % SWIFT transactions
2015: 44-29
2017: 40-36
Not bad for the euro that exists merely for 16 years.
At this rate the euro will have surpassed the dollar by 2020, if it hasn’t already.
Yen and Yuan: nowhere to be seen.
GBP still third. Would not be surprised if Britain joins the dollar area and Russia the euro area, both after a hard Brexit.
Davy on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 8:59 am
Like I said, dedollarization is going nowhere towards the elimination of the dollar from global trade like the board anti-American extremist shout at the top of their lungs here constantly. Reality is very different.
fmr-paultard on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 9:04 am
as a tard and a former paultard i suffered great deal and paid dearly for it. they don’t call it a gold bug for nothing NOTHING!
I caught the bug and i wish i was DEAD. I have very little shekles…the illness due to catching the gold bug nearly destroyed me.
i’m a slow learner but i’m learning that paultarding is a sad chapter in my life not to be repeated.
Cloggie on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 9:11 am
Talking about Brexit, an event with huge escalation potential, including the breakup of the West, dividing it up in two hostile camps, after Trump:
Euros: “fascists”
Anglos: “Jews + mongrels”
Macron has no special deal for May, Entente Cordiale as good as dead:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6025141/Macron-refuses-break-Brexit-deadlock-meeting-Theresa-May.html
Barnier rejects Chequers plan, hard Brexit almost certain:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6021709/Theresa-Mays-Chequers-plan-poses-threat-EU-says-Michel-Barnier-incendiary-open-letter.html
Bank of England chieftain under fire from Brexiteers after he came with stern warning that hard Brexit not good for economy, a no-brainer if some 45% import/export will come to a shrieking standstill:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6022575/Mark-Carney-warns-risk-no-deal-Brexit-uncomfortably-high.html
Top British media Jew Paxman admits he voted remain, just as Soros would have done. And since these people do NEVER anything against their own interest, much in contrast to despicable Christians, they see Brexit as “not good for the Jews”, which is easy to understand, because they could be about to lose ownership of continental Europe, they let their Anglos fight so hard for during WW2. Won’t be easy to repeat that stunt with the current Anglo population of somewhat reduced quality.ROFL:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6025233/Jeremy-Paxman-admits-flip-flopped-Brexit-vote-changed-mind-polling-station.html
fmr-paultard on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 9:41 am
holy cow gret is fuhrer material when he said he does not believe in politics. i made me immediatelly recall this clip
https://youtu.be/YQA6TK65iVM?t=193
MASTERMIND on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 9:50 am
Clog
Please spamming the daily mail..its a tabloid that has been sued countless times and lost for writing fake news..You are such a moron and you swallow propaganda like mothers milk..
Cloggie on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 10:10 am
Further implosion of the empire of the millimind’s:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/tuerkei-recep-erdogan-verhaengt-sanktionen-gegen-trump-minister-a-1221661.html
Erdogan imposes sanctions against US secretaries of Justice and Interior (1 person?).
The measures are highly symbolic, as it is unlikely both dignitaries have a lot of assets stored in Turkey, not even a few goats in Inner-Anatolia, outside the realm of SWIFT anyway.
Nevertheless, it shows once again that Erdogan places no great value on good relations with the US. And why should he? The US failed in both Iraq and Syria and temporarily lost Egypt to the Muslim Brotherhood after an unplanned for democratic eruption, can’t have that of course. And it is not unlikely that the US and its puppet Guelen was behind the failed coup against closet Islamist Erdogan. Erdogan wants his head, but the US refuses to deliver.
Furthermore it is likely that both Turkey and Iran are lusting after KSA, currently a US asset.
Erdogan hated it that Russia blocked the overthrow of Assad, where Erdogan had planned to become the new overlord of Syria, while piggy-backing with the Americans. But Syria NOT ending up as a US colony is not too bad either and the alternative to the West, namely a triumvirate Russia-Iran-Turkey is not that bad a perspective. Syria can wait. America no longer needs to be respected.
“Greater Turkey” is much greater than Turkey proper:
https://plaidavenger.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/turkic_language_map3.png
GregT on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 11:28 am
“holy cow gret is fuhrer material when he said he does not believe in politics.”
Adolf Hitler was a politician, tard.
GregT on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 11:39 am
“I caught the bug and i wish i was DEAD. I have very little shekles…the illness due to catching the gold bug nearly destroyed me.”
You have nobody to blame for your own stupidity but yourself tard. I know many people who profited handsomely from gold, myself included.
Cloggie on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 11:51 am
Erdogan trying out his new toothbrush:
https://tinyurl.com/yaxt42n7
Davy on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 11:59 am
“Nevertheless, it shows once again that Erdogan places no great value on good relations with the US.”
Ah, maybe, but people who value their businesses do. Just take a look what is happening to the currency and we understand what a nutcase Erdogan is for his country financially. Erdogan reminds me of Chavez in that he wants to be a powerful person on the world stage and he may take his country down trying. He would be perfect addition for the failed bric team.
Cloggie on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 12:07 pm
This is how Turkey looked like in 1914, merely a century ago:
https://nzhistory.govt.nz/media/photo/map-ottoman-empire-1914
Politicians have long memories, especially when territories are concerned.
After the implosion of the Ottoman empire, the British and French had outspoken ideas what to do with the southern half of the Ottoman Empire of former fame:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement
After WW2, the Americans had outspoken ideas as well what to do with said territory. Spoiler: British-French colonial ownership needed to be discontinued. Now it was the American turn to ride the Arabian camel.
Obviously, Erdogan is biding his time for the eventuality that the Americans go flat on their face. In that case, Turkey will have outspoken ideas about the future of said territory. If Turkey and Iran team up, with Turkey respecting Syrian territory SW of the Euphrates, Turkey can march onto Riyadh, East of the Euphrates and West of Baghdad and divide the Saudi loot between Turkey and Iran.
And then there is Israel, um I mean Palestine.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/10/23/turkeys-religious-nationalists-want-ottoman-borders-iraq-erdogan/
Cloggie on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 12:11 pm
we understand what a nutcase Erdogan is for his country financially. Erdogan reminds me of Chavez in that he wants to be a powerful person on the world stage and he may take his country down trying. He would be perfect addition for the failed bric team.
Sure Davy.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/keithflamer/2016/06/30/worlds-biggest-airport-will-replace-istanbuls-terrorized-ataturk-in-2018/#547a5b3b7461
“World’s Biggest Airport Will Replace Istanbul’s Terrorized Atatürk In 2018”
200 million passengers/year.
And since when are Russia and China “failed”?
Wishful thinking?
Davy on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 12:53 pm
“And since when are Russia and China “failed”?”
Didn’t say they were I said the Bric team is a failure.
“World’s Biggest Airport Will Replace Istanbul’s Terrorized Atatürk In 2018”
Who cares about an airport? If Erdogan keeps his megalomaniac games up he will bankrupt Turkey and the airport will be a huge stranded asset. Having such a big airport there is likely not very wise either. It is likely just more examples of Erdogan wanting to make Turkey into a major power it is not.
Sissyfuss on Sat, 4th Aug 2018 4:41 pm
By the time that airport is built it will be redundant and obsolete. Kinda like any highway within 30 miles of Chicago.