“The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer,” Mr. Trump told supporters around 3 a.m. at a rally in New York City, just after Mrs. Clinton called to concede.
Mr. Trump’s strong showing brightened Republican hopes of retaining control of the Senate. Only one Republican-controlled seat, in Illinois, fell to Democrats early in the evening. And Senator Richard Burr of North Carolina, a Republican, easily won re-election in a race that had been among the country’s most competitive. A handful of other Republican incumbents facing difficult races were running better than expected.
Mr. Trump’s win — stretching across the battleground states of Florida, North Carolina, Ohio and Pennsylvania — seemed likely to set off financial jitters and immediate unease among international allies, many of which were startled when Mr. Trump in his campaign cast doubt on the necessity of America’s military commitments abroad and its allegiance to international economic partnerships.
From the moment he entered the campaign, with a shocking set of claims that Mexican immigrants were rapists and criminals, Mr. Trump was widely underestimated as a candidate, first by his opponents for the Republican nomination and later by Mrs. Clinton, his Democratic rival. His rise was largely missed by polling organizations and data analysts. And an air of improbability trailed his campaign, to the detriment of those who dismissed his angry message, his improvisational style and his appeal to disillusioned voters.
He suggested remedies that raised questions of constitutionality, like a ban on Muslims entering the United States.
He threatened opponents, promising lawsuits against news organizations that covered him critically and women who accused him of sexual assault. At times, he simply lied.
But Mr. Trump’s unfiltered rallies and unshakable self-regard attracted a zealous following, fusing unsubtle identity politics with an economic populism that often defied party doctrine.
His rallies — furious, entertaining, heavy on name-calling and nationalist overtones — became the nexus of a political movement, with daily promises of sweeping victory, in the election and otherwise, and an insistence that the country’s political machinery was “rigged” against Mr. Trump and those who admired him.
He seemed to embody the success and grandeur that so many of his followers felt was missing from their own lives — and from the country itself. And he scoffed at the poll-driven word-parsing ways of modern politics, calling them a waste of time and money. Instead, he relied on his gut.
At his victory party at the New York Hilton Midtown, where a raucous crowd indulged in a cash bar and wore hats bearing his ubiquitous campaign slogan “Make America Great Again,” voters expressed gratification that their voices had, at last, been heard.
“He was talking to people who weren’t being spoken to,” said Joseph Gravagna, 37, a marketing company owner from Rockland County, N.Y. “That’s how I knew he was going to win.”
For Mrs. Clinton, the defeat signaled an astonishing end to a political dynasty that has colored Democratic politics for a generation. Eight years after losing to President Obama in the Democratic primary — and 16 years after leaving the White House for the United States Senate, as President Bill Clinton exited office — she had seemed positioned to carry on two legacies: her husband’s and the president’s.
Her shocking loss was a devastating turn for the sprawling world of Clinton aides and strategists who believed they had built an electoral machine that would swamp Mr. Trump’s ragtag band of loyal operatives and family members, many of whom had no experience running a national campaign.
On Tuesday night, stricken Clinton aides who believed that Mr. Trump had no mathematical path to victory, anxiously paced the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center as states in which they were confident of victory, like Florida and North Carolina, either fell to Mr. Trump or seemed in danger of tipping his way.
Mrs. Clinton watched the grim results roll in from a suite at the nearby Peninsula Hotel, surrounded by her family, friends and advisers who had the day before celebrated her candidacy with a champagne toast on her campaign plane.
But over and over, Mrs. Clinton’s weaknesses as a candidate were exposed. She failed to excite voters hungry for change. She struggled to build trust with Americans who were baffled by her decision to use a private email server as secretary of state. And she strained to make a persuasive case for herself as a champion of the economically downtrodden after delivering perfunctory paid speeches that earned her millions of dollars.
The returns Tuesday also amounted to a historic rebuke of the Democratic Party from the white blue-collar voters who had formed the party base from the presidency of Franklin D. Roosevelt to Mr. Clinton’s. Yet Mrs. Clinton and her advisers had taken for granted that states like Michigan and Wisconsin would stick with a Democratic nominee, and that she could repeat Mr. Obama’s strategy of mobilizing the party’s ascendant liberal coalition rather than pursuing a more moderate course like her husband did 24 years ago.
But not until these voters were offered a Republican who ran as an unapologetic populist, railing against foreign trade deals and illegal immigration, did they move so drastically away from their ancestral political home.
To the surprise of many on the left, white voters who had helped elect the nation’s first black president, appeared more reluctant to line up behind a white woman.
From Pennsylvania to Wisconsin, industrial towns once full of union voters who for decades offered their votes to Democratic presidential candidates, even in the party’s lean years, shifted to Mr. Trump’s Republican Party. One county in the Mahoning Valley of Ohio, Trumbull, went to Mr. Trump by a six-point margin. Four years ago, Mr. Obama won there by 22 points.
Mrs. Clinton’s loss was especially crushing to millions who had cheered her march toward history as, they hoped, the nation’s first female president. For supporters, the election often felt like a referendum on gender progress: an opportunity to elevate a woman to the nation’s top job and to repudiate a man whose remarkably boorish behavior toward women had assumed center stage during much of the campaign.
Mr. Trump boasted, in a 2005 video released last month, about using his public profile to commit sexual assault. He suggested that female political rivals lacked a presidential “look.” He ranked women on a scale of one to 10, even holding forth on the desirability of his own daughter — the kind of throwback male behavior that many in the country assumed would disqualify a candidate for high office.
On Tuesday, the public’s verdict was rendered.
Uncertainty abounds as Mr. Trump prepares to take office. His campaign featured a shape-shifting list of policy proposals, often seeming to change hour to hour. His staff was in constant turmoil, with Mr. Trump’s children serving critical campaign roles and a rotating cast of advisers alternately seeking access to Mr. Trump’s ear, losing it and, often, regaining it, depending on the day.
Even Mr. Trump’s full embrace of the Republican Party came exceedingly late in life, leaving members of both parties unsure about what he truly believes. He has donated heavily to both parties and has long described his politics as the transactional reality of a businessman.
Mr. Trump’s dozens of business entanglements — many of them in foreign countries — will follow him into the Oval Office, raising questions about potential conflicts of interest. His refusal to release his tax returns, and his acknowledgment that he did not pay federal income taxes for years, has left the American people with considerable gaps in their understanding of the financial dealings.
But this they do know: Mr. Trump will thoroughly reimagine the tone, standards and expectations of the presidency, molding it in his own self-aggrandizing image.
He is set to take the oath of office on Jan. 20.
NYTimes
J-Gav on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 2:55 pm
Well, you know me, always looking at the bright side of things (Ha-ha!). Either way it was always gonna be a bunch of lying, cheating, fraudulent, thuggish, thieving ä§howls who get into power. If you’re not a sociopath or a psychopath you just don’t cut it. Somebody who could at least communicate beyond an eighth-grade level might have been preferable for the image of the country in the world but hey, it is what it is. It remains to be seen whether or not this plodding freak is actually capable of governing anything at all.
Cloggie on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 3:07 pm
Sissyfuss, for starters, Eastern Europe has systematically sealed off its territory. No invaders to be send back.
Bulgarian-Turkish border:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVzn-ebw6vA
Germany is different. A few days ago, the German minister of the interior proposed to intercept the invaders near the African coast, pick them up and no longer bring them to Europe, but instead ship them back to a different location in North-Africa:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/11/06/send-new-migrants-back-africa-says-german-interior-minister/
For the moment it is a proposal, but it shows the “establishment” is getting afraid for the mood in the country. And in Germany the situation is very heated:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4mcQgttFfg
(last month, Merkel in Dresden)
The extremely hated German justice minister Maas in East-Germany:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9rvjdB-VRc
Head of the French intelligence service predicts a civil war in France soon.
In Germany hundreds of “refugee” quarters were attacked and/or arsoned.
European populist parties want to repatriate invaders. Perhaps France will be the next big country where a populist will occupy office.
Core of the German resistance is Dresden. For two years now, every week thousands show up to demonstrate against the planned replacement of the Germans by Muslims and Africans, in accordance of the policies of the US deep state and imperial overlord of Germany:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eRZBTb1EkI
With Trump no longer backing the former vassals, their days are numbered, 1989-style.
Won’t be long until the invaders will become real refugees and flee back to Africa.lol
Satori on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 3:13 pm
here’s Hillary’s economic team
we really dodged a bullet
I really like Steve Mnuchin
he worked for Goldman Sucks for 17 years
and also for George Soros !!!
good thing these hedge fund/Wall Street slimeballs won’t be running the show
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/06/business/economy/donald-trump-economic-team.html
things will really be different with Trump in charge !!!
Anonymous on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 3:50 pm
No matter how you slice it, the lesser of two evils won last night, lol.
onlooker on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 3:58 pm
Yep, Anon. Hillary was an obedient puppet of the Higher Powers that be ie Banking and Corporation Overlords. Trump is more a rogue wildcard who may not obey orders from up high. Other than that neither offers much of anything positive. Then again, no politician or politicians by themselves could do anything for this world without help from the Business world and masses of awake people. Not holding my breadth for that. Especially, politicians they are a greedy power hungry bunch.
Apneaman on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 4:11 pm
Let’s all stop pretending we have crystal balls and “know” all these things no one knows. Trump has never served one day in office and y’all need to stop pretending you know what’s in his mind. Some of you talk like you have known him for years and just finished having breakfast with him where he told you all his plans and secrets.
Anyone else notice this? How humans can spin all these stories in their minds, believe them, and spit them out then expect to be taken seriously. How come none of you Trumpeters never bring up the record he does have – in business? He business record is just as foul as Hillary’s political record, but somehow y’all think he has a magic switch he will turn on and shoot straight the second he’s sworn in. Yeah the oath changes devils into angels. Fucking children.
Hey I forgot. What’s Trumps plan for managing the increasing AGW shit kickings America is taking? Oh right it’s a chinese hoax. I guess then he will “make” the chinese pay for all the damages eh? It’s their hoax so they must have somehow caused all that damage and death.
Billion-dollar weather disasters increasingly frequent
“According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the United States as thus far endured a total of 12 natural disasters causing at least $1 billion in damage each in 2016. Included in that number are four major flooding events and eight severe storms. By comparison, from 1980 through 2000, the average annual number of billion-dollar natural disasters, as measured using CPI-adjusted figures, was merely 3.7.
NOAA’s numbers indicate that we have entered an era in which costly weather-related disasters are troublingly commonplace. While 2016 has been a devastating year for such events, it is hardly an outlier. In 2015, we saw 10 billion-dollar disasters; in 2011, NOAA recorded 16. All told, from 2001 through the present, the average number of such disasters per year jumped to 7.7.”
http://www.businessinsuranceattorney.com/2016/10/14/billion-dollar-weather-disasters-increasingly-frequent/
Davy on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 4:15 pm
Onlooker, a Trump positive may be a detente with Russia. I feel this is possible becuase in Trump’s acceptance speech he alluded to it and the next day Putin responded positively to a Trump victory.
Anonymous on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 4:18 pm
What power is it that politicians hold, or lust after? Here in the free-world order, the power politicians wield, is in service to other masters. Sure, they can exercise all kinds of power in trivial matters of no concern to their paymasters, but that’s not power is it? In other countries where political power actually means something, yes, you will find people that match your description.
But here in the amerio-zionist empire? Pols are just servants. Well paid, with high-status, visible positions, but little power. Ask any ‘backbencher’ in any western party. Even backbenchers in ruling parties will tell you-they have no real voice, much less authority. Cabinets have the actual power, but they serve other masters, be it in Jew York, Tel Aviv, London etc.
At best, pols in the ‘western’ empire, seek the status and certain amount of wealth they can accrue with the positions. Power? Not so much. Only occasionally do you see overt, naked power grabs in high office. Cheny would be a good, but atypical example of overt power grabs. But his power, didn’t come from the office itself, but from his shadow govt connections and supporters.
peakyeast on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 4:29 pm
Congratulations on your new president.
At least you showed the establishment that you, the people, are unhappy.
Lets see if he is as big a liar and fake as Obama. My guess is: Yes.
J-Gav on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 4:35 pm
Davy,
You may not be wrong there, I mean as regards Russia. Defuse some of that NATO pressure and tension surrounding that country. That would, however, require one helluva lot of international negotiation which, unfortunately, Mr Trump has zero experience in. All we can do is wait and see I guess …
onlooker on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 4:48 pm
Anonymous you’re right about that, I did point that out though. Davy, yes Trump seems to be making overtures to Russia and that is the Cabal or Higher Powers wanted Hillary over Trump. These ruling people in the West would prefer to start up WWIII than lose power
Anonymous on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 4:58 pm
You are right about the starting WWIII part. This what makes amerikans and their zionist rulers so dangerous. Its not their intelligence, or prowess in battle (lol), but that they would rather see the world in ashes than give up their power. This is why the civilized world must rally against amerika, or a least encourage its downfall, but in a more controlled way, that does not give them an overt excuse to unleash their WoMD.
When you have a wild caged animal running around (amerika), the best way to deal with it is, let it exhaust itself, rather than confront it directly. Lets hope the apeshit reactions of the ruling elites to trump, and trumps actions himself, serve to accelerate the decline of the empire of terror.
Anonymous on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 5:08 pm
un-caged rather.
makati1 on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 5:09 pm
As some mentioned above, the real world has not changed. The planet is still heating up and getting ready for the extinction event. All of the turmoil and change coming is not just from yesterday’s election.
Plantagenet got it right: “…conservatives pretend climate change is not real and liberals pretend to care.”
onlooker on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 5:18 pm
Absolutely A. “let it exhaust itself, rather than confront it directly.” Or to put it slightly different , let it internally disintegrate
makati1 on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 5:29 pm
Davy, “Makati, you are not here and have little clue of what is going on except with your alternative anti-American news and exceptional emotional American hatred. You make me sick daily but these days I mostly ignore you.”
I am more “there” than you are. The U$ is not an isolated bit of the world when the internet functions. I had access, in real time to everything you had access to on election day. I just didn’t waste my time watching it all.
Trump’s win may have pulled the Apocalypse back a bit, but it did not, and will not, stop it. The world is heating up and will continue to do so. The U$ economy is going to collapse no matter who or what is in power and the shock is going to be felt everywhere. The ‘wars’ are not gong to stop tomorrow. TPTB are still in place. The U$ is still divided and the divisions are only going to grow.
The most positive things that came out of this circus was that the dirty underbelly of the government was made public to the world and the US MSM was shown to be the propaganda mill it really is. The extreme bullshit attracted most of the world’s attention and that too is a good thing as many more now see the U$ for the smelly pile of bullshit it is these days.
I do not “hate” America. It was once a great country. Now it is a land of sheep and wolves. And, when I say it deserves what is coming … well … there are ALWAYS consequences for your actions or in-actions. The bill is being presented for payment and it is going to be painful. The next four years are going to see radical changes, I think and most will not be pleasant. If stating the obvious is “hate”, then so be it.
peakyeast on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 5:40 pm
So now we enter the era predicted in The Simpsons in 2000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hzRnwLTMfM
At 0:33
I am a little surprised.
DerHundistlos on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 6:20 pm
Please limit Trump articles on what is otherwise an excellent website; otherwise the nutters spew forth vile, self-hating, vitriol.
makati1 on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 8:07 pm
Ap, a bit of humorous fiction… or is it?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-09/meanwhile-canada
“The flood of Trump-fearing American liberals sneaking across the border into Canada has intensified in the past week. The Republican presidential campaign is prompting an exodus among left-leaning Americans who fear they’ll soon be required to hunt, pray, pay taxes, and live according to the Constitution.
Canadian border residents say it’s not uncommon to see dozens of sociology professors, liberal arts majors, global-warming activists, and “green” energy proponents crossing their fields at night. … Canadian citizens have complained that the illegal immigrants are creating an organic-broccoli shortage, are buying up all the Barbara Streisand CD’s, and are overloading the internet while downloading jazzercise apps to their cell phones.
“I really feel sorry for American liberals, but the Canadian economy just can’t support them,” an Ottawa resident said. “After all, how many art-history majors does one country need?”
^_^
Apneaman on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 8:44 pm
Mak, he’s fucking around with everyone. Some clever digs too. I would never do that. Since 90% of zerohedge readers are semi literate conspiracy tards I bet some of them will actually believe it.
What did happen is that the Canadian immigration website was down for a bit in the middle of the night. I don’t what these people are thinking – what? you just going to rent a big budget truck and move up to Canada like that eh? Have at er. One of the hardest countries to migrate too. Try for political refugee status instead. Tell em Trumps, Brown Shirts beat the hell out of you because you are a social justice warrior, love abortion and gay marriage. That will get you in. Maybe one of those Vietnam draft dodgers who never went home will sponsor a couple of em?
Satori on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 9:05 pm
I used to really like Zerohedge,but they just aren’t a credible source of info anymore
and on other note,as of this minute
Hillary actually won the election,IF you go by the popular vote
translation:MORE people wanted her for President over Trump
but of course as Trump himself has said
“the system is RIGGED”
boy howdy is it ever LMAO !!!
truer words never spoken
some “triumph” for Trump
he is NOT the people’s choice
Apneaman on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 9:26 pm
onlooker, I feel the same – bring it on. If Trump does all that anti environmental shit he has promised then it will speed things up. I would love nothing more than to see the ones who have benefited pay the price. If not then by 2030 no one will even attempt to deny it. Not AGW, no I mean that we all going bye bye. As has been brought many a time the laws of physics, chemistry and biologly don’t give a fuck what humans want or think or feel.
Physics Doesn’t Really Care Who Was Elected
“Donald Trump has said climate change is a Chinese hoax. His presidency raises the prospect of a climate denier atop the Environmental Protection Agency and an oil and gas billionaire running the Energy Department.”
-Carbon dioxide passed the 400 parts per million milestone. Permanently
-2016 is going to be the hottest year on record
-Extreme weather events have become more likely
-Sea level rise is making flooding more common
-Arctic sea ice is disappearing. Fast
-The Antarctic ice sheet is becoming unstable
-The oceans have been record warm — and it’s killing coral
-Oh, and oceans are also acidifying
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/physics-climate-election-2016-20862
Good luck dealing with the consequences of all that Mr Trump.
I don’t do TV, but most liberal rags and blogs are having a hissy fit because of Trump saying he’s gutting it all. Now we’re doomed because of that which hasn’t actually happened yet. Winning the election was the easy part. Look at all the 40 to 50 year old men who were potus and went in with black or brown hair then came out looking grey and all raggedy assed and aged by a decade from a term or two. What will it do to a 70 year old fat man. They try and hide his fatness with the cut of his suit. Watch, you’ll see it. Liberals are just excuse making and scape goating. We already fucked with what is in the pipe. There is a lag from emission to warming of about 40 years and half of all industrial emission have been puked out in the last 30 years. 265 years timeline for industrial civilization and half of all the emissions came in the last 30 years. Can we say Albert Bartlett kids! Can we say exponential kids! I knew you could do it! What Trump and his policies can do is speed it up. Speed up those already underway reverse positive feedback loops. Truth is even if Trump took the opposite stance there is only so much a POTUS can do without killing the shaky economy. I guess it’s technically possible for the US to get to 3/4 of all electrical generation at current level from alts, but you’re still fucked on the transportation.
Trump gonna smash the enviro regs and bring on a mini boom. Last boom ever probably.
Bring it on Bitch
Truth Has A Liberal Bias on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 10:14 pm
Lmfao I’m sure all your problems will be solved as soon as he takes office.
USA elections- more fun than taking a class of retards on a field trip to the zoo.
makati1 on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 10:15 pm
Satori, could you reference the source of your claim that the bitch got the most popular votes? I couldn’t find one.
Truth Has A Liberal Bias on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 10:40 pm
Hillary got over 200,000 more votes than trump
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president
A two party system that isn’t based on the winner being the one with the most votes is retarder. What do you expect from the asshole of the planet.
Putin (a former colonel in KGB and head of FSB) is gonna run circles around you dipshits.
Maybe North Korea will do the world a favor and nuke/EMP your shit hole country.
antaris on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 10:50 pm
THALB, where are you from again ?
makati1 on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 10:57 pm
Truth, the NY Times? Can you reference a more reliable source? After all, you are referencing a part of the system coverup of Clinton’s crimes. A crony in the Clinton mafia.
antaris on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 11:13 pm
Mak just google “us election results”. HC 200,000 up on Trump but lost because of the college system. Nothing new. Happens all the time.
Anonymous on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 11:15 pm
200k votes? Thats nothing, in my country, you win a majority gov;t with like 35% of the popular vote. Happens all the time, And when the happens the fucktard press in this country will declare it, ‘an overwhelming victory’ for party X. And best of all, NO one in the ‘media’ ever mentions that 35% of PV is neither overwhelming, or a majority.
Truth Has A Liberal Bias on Wed, 9th Nov 2016 11:50 pm
Hey Mak have you ever heard of google? Jesus fuck are you thick in e head. NYT shows up top of the list so I gave it to you. If you don’t like NYT then google it yourself and click the second or third link. They all say the same fucking thing you stupid cunt. You’re fucking thick. Google it you stupid fuck. It ain’t rocket surgery.
Apneaman on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 12:30 am
Some good insights here.
Democrats, Trump, and the Ongoing, Dangerous Refusal to Learn the Lesson of Brexit
“1. Democrats have already begun flailing around trying to blame anyone and everyone they can find — everyone except themselves — for last night’s crushing defeat of their party.”
2. That racism, misogyny, and xenophobia are pervasive in all sectors of America is indisputable from even a casual glance at its history, both distant and recent.
3. Over the last six decades, and particularly over the last 15 years of the endless war on terror, both political parties have joined to construct a frightening and unprecedentedly invasive and destructive system of authoritarian power, accompanied by the unbridled authority vested in the executive branch to use it.
https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/democrats-trump-and-the-ongoing-dangerous-refusal-to-learn-the-lesson-of-brexit/
makati1 on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 1:45 am
Truth, your potty mouth shows either your immaturity or your I.Q. or both.
BTW: I was addressing Satori, not you. I was only suggesting he ref his ‘facts’.
I access several search engines and usually ref my comments, that contain facts. I also avoid any US MSM as they are more liars than factual as the election has made most blatant.
makati1 on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 1:59 am
BTW: Presidents are rarely elected by the ‘MAJORITY” of the voting age public:
“In 2012, the winner, Barack Obama, managed to win a majority of votes cast with a nearly 53 percent margin. However, Obama won votes from only 28 percent of the voting age population, meaning 72 percent of voting-age Americans did not vote for him.”
~46% of eligible voters never even voted for anyone.
“When we look at the percentage of the overall American population that voted for Ronald Reagan in his 1984 “blowout,” the total comes to 23 percent.”
“In 1992, for example, Clinton won votes from only 24 percent of the voting-age population.”
“The fact that politicians pretend that votes provide approval for a candidate’s agenda remain a convenient fiction for candidates — especially presidential ones — who, despite routinely garnering votes from under 30 percent of the eligible voters — and under 20 percent of the population overall — claim the election proves they have the approval of “the people.”
https://mises.org/blog/will-people-myth
America’s leaders are decided by only those not too lazy to vote. The rest have no right to complain when they don’t like the results.
joe on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 4:00 am
They blamed Brexit on racism and the liberals still do. Brexit was about the history of Thatcherism and coalmine closures and car manufacturers closing, jobs going to Eastern Europe and China, then the masses of immigration from Eastern Europe to depress wages and third way liberalsand neoconservatives abandoning working class people of all colors. The rust belt legacy of NAFTA is the reason why political opinions are changing, why is this a suprise? Americans have a right to be possesive of their country, thats not something that you should be ashamed of. Russia is the modern Goldstein, thats all. The Rustbelt is no longer loyal to the pro union democrats because there are no more jobs to unionise. Trump knew that because he understood business, east coast liberals missed that point because they are discusted by dirt and real work and the workers. They want a spotless clean America of open spaces and cheap goods made by almost slave labour in poor countries and they appease their minds by claiming they are sharing wealth. Liberals cry about poor minorities but they dont care about poor whites , its the height of hypocrisy and racism, and yes minorites can be as racist as whites. Even the word ‘minorites’ what a misnomer, whites are a tiny portion of the world population, whites are a global minority. So lets either get honest and recognise the truth, the world is in an energy crisis, a banking crisis a population crisis. TPP will spark a trade war with China, Europe could be at war in the next decade. Trump is a symptom not a cause of a much bigger problem. Obama was a change candidate, he represented hope that demographic and economic changes could be a positve thing, but it hasnt happped, Trump is a reaction to the truth, that just like the British Empire fell, the US empire is falling. Hope was Obamas message, hope that things might not be as bad as we thought, but Trump is a steaming pile of reality left on the doorstep of the FED, IMF, WTO, UN, NATO and all the pillars of globalisation and oilistans.
Cloggie on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 4:43 am
Ghung said: My doom-o-meter is pegging. Enough said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grD_IINiH9c
makati1 on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 5:06 am
cloggie, great vid! A map of the places Hillary carried were mostly the wimpy cities, where reality is not a part of life. And, as the economy goes down the shitter, will suffer the most. I want to see a vid of these ‘children’ when that happens. LOL
joe on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 5:14 am
Will oil go back up when Trump dismantles the executive agreement with Iran, the so called Iran Nuclear deal?
Will reimposing the status quo help global stability? Would it be in Americas interest? Since he met AIPAC and said he would undo Obamas deal the neocons still abandoned him and went with Clinton, does he owe Israel a break?
Theedrich on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 5:16 am
There is a God. The U.S. Ministry of Propaganda was actually defeated. Paleo-America is gone with the wind, even though the snake-infested NY Times and so-called “conservatives” cannot understand the fact. American “history” teaching has long become little more than an anti-White diatribe. White men are identified as male chauvinists, if not outright beasts of prey. Both the election of the Negro and the candidacy of the banshee demonstrated clearly the aim of the elites to terminate any connection with the origins and future of the country. Since the decline of Christianity (as so accurately forecast by Nietzsche), the preferred substitute in the Jew-controlled West has become a form of Communism run by oligarchs and their literate toadies. That substitute can claim to maintain the anti-evolutionary values of “Judeo-Christianity,” but without the cumbersome God thing.
Satan’s mistress will now revert to living off the wealth of the Clinton Foundation and have to forgo her plan to metastasize the criminal cancers in the economy under the name of “growth.” Illegal immigration, narcotrafficking and graft of every “progressivist” sort might even diminish. The Propaganda Ministry, of course, will see full employment, but U.S. military might now not be used so readily to regime-change any country whose leaders cannot be bribed and which the anti-evolutionist elites view as a hindrance.
As the global economy reaches its long-predicted limits of growth and stalls out, a Trumpian White House might actually lessen the imperative to destroy the White race by any means, especially by the ever-popular one of war. Up until the night of 2016 November 8, things looked quite ominous, given that the Department of “Defense” now has satellite-missiles orbiting the earth which, at a touch from a frothing feminist’s finger, could instantly and without warning nuke any civilian population on the planet. In the vixen’s view, what good would a military be if you don’t use it?
But somehow, America decided to hesitate before jumping off the cliff. The Socialist Party, of course, is now launching “spontaneous” protests in large American cities to demand the nullification of the election. Clearly that is what the Jew York Times wants. But that may now be a little harder to accomplish than the elites would like.
Cloggie on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 5:50 am
Friday said: Old dutch, what happened? Tinfoil hat falloff in your exuberance over Trump’s victory? His victory suddenly put a halt on the evil forces that were preventing your internet access?
Don’t know what happened, perhaps the peakoil.com mods are just as divided as US society in general, perhaps bans are temporarily, dunno. But don’t worry, I won’t write much here in the future, if anything at all. The next focus will be to agitate on European forums to bring Merkel down (Groesste Kartoffelsack Aller Zeiten, GroKatz) and make the revolution complete. Forums with a larger reach like pi-news.net and thesaker.is are more suitable for that purpose. The interest in the peakoil subject has diminished anyway, even here.lol. For the hardcore doomers GW/CC is the new playthingy. I’m not interested. Not because I am a “denier”, but because there is nothing you can do about it other than decarbonize your economy. I am not really a fan of the EU but at least they got their energy policy right. Let’s implement it and be content c.q. learn to live with the CC you get as a result and force others to do the same. Donald Trump wants protectionism? Fine, that’s a policy in line with the depleting realities of the 21st century. But it also means that those societies who have stricter environmental policies can refuse dirty products from societies who don’t give a shit, like Trumpenreich. Btw, there is no reason for Americans to drive European or Japanese cars. Americans are perfectly able to design, produce and drive their own cars. Europe and Japan likewise. If we are going to end globalism, let’s do it thoroughly.
About the effects of CC: here is what would happen to the world if all the ice in the world would melt (Antarctice and Greenland) and the sea level would rise 70 m:
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/09/rising-seas/if-ice-melted-map
On a global scale not much: Holland, northern Germany, London and Florida (deplorable state since 2016!) would vanish, but that’s about it.
Analysis of what happened on Tuesday from alt-right perspective:
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/11/an-amazing-victory/
Trump’s victory will encourage and energize the right in Europe. It is Brexit on steroids — a scream by voters to stop the way things are going. To stop the destruction of their traditional ways of life. If nothing else, it is throwing a monkey wrench into the system. Tear it down!
Absolutely!
Meanwhile the EU is seizing the opportunity to once again stress the need for a European army:
https://www.rt.com/news/366177-european-army-security-juncker/
And RT.com of course agrees, because they are deep in their hearts afraid of China, not of Europe. They want to complete their centuries old project and become a fully fledged Great European nation. We Europeans should let them in because they qualify: white, Greco-Roman-Christian heritage. And showed remarkable courage in resisting the empire. Oh, and they have a lot of useful resources. “Lebensraum ultra-lite”.
US ambassador to Germany John Kornblum (under Bill Clinton) warns Europe that Trump means that the American “protective shield” will be withdrawn from Europe, for ever:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/newsblog-michelle-obama-empfaengt-melania-trump-a-1120594.html
Dear mr Kornblum, until 1939 we Europeans had ruled the world for centuries and en passant created you. We need no protective shield. These imperial times won’t return, we will have a multi-polar world, but there will come a time when Paris-Berlin-Moscow will offer a protective shield to middle America, located in a hostile darkening North-American continent and draw them into Eurosphere as the fourth Great European nation, the Amerikaner, next to the French, Germans and Russians. Eurosphere or the North (replacing the West to accomodate the Russians) is enough for the white world to remain the first address on this planet, provided we can push back feminism and restore the traditional family.
The NWO is over. Let’s ensure it is for good. One major enemy has already been defeated:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88UV4yJ-AdI
Defeated by 15 years of internet, competing with the media.
Reading prohibited messages without sanctions.
That’s what the pollsters missed.
Watched this video twenty times over.
What as joy.
makati1 on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 6:22 am
cloggie, your comment about what would vanish is not quite correct. I wrote a novel and did a lot of research on that very topic. You might be interested in the fact that most of the world’s cities, including Paris, London, and all of the West coast of Europe. Then in the U$, most of the East coast a few hundred miles inland to include all of the cites, including DC, Baltimore, etc. ALL would be submerged. If they are less than 80M above sea level and connected to the sea by a river … they are toast.
Most of Panama would be gone along with the Panama Canal. The oceans would be rejoined and both of the Americas would be separated again after millions of years with most of Central America gone.
All that ice melting would create all kinds of volcanic eruptions and earthquakes in places that have not seen them in millions of years or ever. Hell on earth.
A lot to think about, yes?
joe on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 6:31 am
Hey Mak, some of the elites are religious extremists, ever consider this insanity is exactly their hearts desire? Thats my nightmare. Bush afterall claimed God told him to invade Iraq. Why cant God tell them to have a climate apocalypse…
makati1 on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 6:55 am
joe, you have hit the nail on the head, I think. Many of the neocons are religious nuts and probably think that an Apocalypse would be a good thing. They lived their long lives and are bored with it all. They play games with their money and power, not caring what the consequences will be. For instance, George Soros, the Sith Lord of the Empire today, is 86.
Davy on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 7:16 am
The Electoral College is an example of safeguards found in checks and balances. It is an example of the attempt to blend democracy and federalism to protect smaller states. Candidates have to build national coalitions across states and regions instead of focusing on population centers.
“WHY THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE”
http://www.historycentral.com/elections/Electoralcollgewhy.html
“One aspect of the electoral system that is not mandated in the constitution is the fact that the winner takes all the votes in the state. Therefore it makes no difference if you win a state by 50.1% or by 80% of the vote you receive the same number of electoral votes. This can be a recipe for one individual to win some states by large pluralities and lose others by small number of votes, and thus this is an easy scenario for one candidate winning the popular vote while another winning the electoral vote. This winner take all methods used in picking electors has been decided by the states themselves. This trend took place over the course of the 19th century.”
“While there are clear problems with the Electoral College and there are some advantages to it, changing it is very unlikely. It would take a constituitional amendment ratified by 3/4 of states to change the system. It is hard to imagine the smaller states agreeing. One way of modifying the system s to eliminate the winner take all part of it. The method that the states vote for the electoral college is not mandated by the consitution but is decided by the states. Two states do not use the winner take all system, Maine and Nebraska. It would be difficult but not impossible to get other states to change their systems, unfortunately the party that has the advantage in the state is unlikely to agree to a unilateral change.”
Hubbert on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 8:03 am
Socialists are losing thier mind. No doubt Soros is behind all this.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-10/anti-trump-protests-continue-across-us-overnight-burn-american-flags-disrupt-traffic
Davy on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 8:06 am
There are some things Trump can do in the short term to boast growth but this is setting us up for a likely bigger fall later. When there are no answers because of being in a predicament of a global catch 22 then you only have bad or worse policy. It appears Trump will choose worse by trying to do better. A collapse process behaves different than a growth process. The best you can do in a collapse process is adapt and mitigate. You can’t have your cake and eat it with better policy. It may be a case that the economy drops into recession anyway because let’s face it China is close to a negative economic shift due to internal debt levels and bad debt. What happens in China will influence us all.
Trump is talking an insular economic policy and that can’t be good for a global economy in decline. I see destructive volatility ahead because of the incongruous juxtapositions of policy and reality Trump will peruse. In any case those of you like me that are working on preparations for hard times there may be a honeymoon window ahead for a few months from all this disruption and growth talk. This will buy us some more time in artificial affluence to build on with our projects.
My main hope from Trump is maybe WWIII might be off the table. It is too early to tell. Let us hope Putin is patient and resists the impulse to react to adverse US and NATO actions in anticipation of a less hostile Trump presidency. The reason I say this is there are still plenty of flies in the ointment to ruin this Trump/Putin romance before it even gets started.
“Everything Is Soaring As Trump Makes Buying Stuff Great Again”
http://tinyurl.com/gn8qzr5
“As Citi strategists note today, “The outcome of the U.S. election leaves the policy and macroeconomic outlook in the U.S. and globally with major uncertainties. Acknowledging these major uncertainties, we expect the new administration to pursue some deregulation, fiscal expansion, and reassess the costs and benefits of free trade. The combination of policies could be inflationary, quicken the path of Fed hikes and strengthen the dollar.”
DB’s Jim Reid concludes the overnight wrap
“As a ‘secular stagnationist’ this is as much a relative and a nominal GDP story as it is an absolute and real GDP view but at least we’ll likely to see a change in policy. Policy should now be skewed towards reflation at a fiscal level. However as a caveat the outcome is probably also potentially dangerous for growth as a Trump presidency has more risk of going spectacularly wrong than most others given his inconsistent approach to policy in the lead up to the election and his total lack of political experience. There was a great quote on Bloomberg last night from Sarah Binder – a political science professor at George Washington University – who said that “In every conversation I have about a President Trump there is an asterisk of unpredictability”. This certainly rings true.”
“However if your view has been that constant monetary easing without support from fiscal policy was becoming counterproductive at a global level, then you have to take Trump and the Republicans seriously whatever your view(s) on him/them. I would stress that Trump will likely need the Fed over the years ahead though and he’s not been their biggest fan. A persistent unfunded fiscal deficit could push yields up to levels that the debt ladened global economy would find overly negative. For expansionary fiscal policy to work in a world of heavy debt I do think you need a central bank willing or forced to buy government bonds”
Apneaman on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 8:49 am
Clogged, no one here believe that you were intentionally cut off because “they” were scared of your influence or you exposing some secret. Yeah, Trump would not have got elected without you, Alex Jones Jr. That’s the schizoid in you talking and also a dose of self flattery that all conspiracy tards have. You should not go off your meds and go see your doctor. Serious. You sound ill.
Cloggie on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 9:32 am
Clogged, no one here believe that you were intentionally cut off because “they” were scared of your influence or you exposing some secret.
Nobody says that, straw man. I know that you think you are Nostradamus, benevolently here to “inform the internet masses”, your words, I am not making this up. But you are no Nostradamus.
Trump would not have got elected without you, Alex Jones Jr.
Another straw man, your “reasoning” is deeply dishonest, in line with your fallen guru Clinton. Must really hurt to be a loser, right Friday?
Talking about Alex Jones, you can make fun of him all you want, but his effort is outright titanic, without the sinking stuff that is.
http://www.infowars.com/roger-stone-on-breaking-election-day-news/
His internet media outlet is one of the main sources of organizing resistance against the leftist globalist establishment. The internet is a tool of the political Right. It already made itself felt four years ago with Ron Paul, but now it really made a difference. Without it, Trump would not have won.
Apneaman on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 9:56 am
Muslim ban promise mysteriously vanishes from Trump’s website; GOP regulars in line for top posts
http://bit.ly/2fFocaV
Looks like the betrayal has already started. Same as Obama, same as Bush, same as Clinton, same as Bush, same as Reagan, same as it ever was. After a time you’ll all go back to attacking and blaming liberals and minorities for all the things Trump said he would do but didn’t, because there is simply no way that y’all are going to admit you got fucked in the ass yet again. There will always be some reason and someone to blame for why Trump couldn’t implement policy XY or Z. There is way too much emotional investment in him to cut one’s losses. It’ll be double down time same as deniers. Same thing happened with Obama. Liberals making excuses for him or just plain ignoring his misdeeds. Same shit over and over with the humans of each generation filling the same role. That’s what is going to happen.
Apneaman on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 10:24 am
my “fallen guru Clinton”? Go ahead asshole. Demonstrate, with my own words that I am a Hillary supporter and I will leave this site and never return. Go for it Dutch boy. Show me and everyone else the quotes. Who is the one trying to set up strawman? Clogged you actually are like a great deal of Americans in that you believe that there are only two possible political positions in the entire universe, left or right and if you criticize or mock one team then by default you are on the other team. Guess what? That thinking is indoctrination and why their (not yours) country is divided. Congratulations, you are an honorary brainwashed american. You also forget that like you I am not an American and thus do not have a candidate because I have no vote, no say. Now that I have enlightened you to the fact that there are people who reject all of them because they see the corruption and futility you now can sleep better knowing the other team doesn’t have as many players as you feared. That’s a good thing for you little clog since going by your comments it looks like your entire life is informed and dictated by fear.
Cloggie on Thu, 10th Nov 2016 11:22 am
my “fallen guru Clinton”?
You once said that Trump supporters needed to be shot first and only then ask questions. You never said that about Hillary supporters. Do you deny that? You clearly hoped she would win. Hence my loosely used term “guru”.
Meanwhile large scale demonstrations by the low quality commie tolerance crowd in coastal areas:
https://www.rt.com/usa/366311-donald-trump-protests-arrests/
Oakland:
http://www.infowars.com/anti-trump-crowd-smashes-windows-police-cruiser-in-streets-of-oakland-video/
Trump Tower besieged:
http://www.infowars.com/soros-sponsored-social-justice-warriors-besiege-trump-tower/
Wrong area (NYC)
Trump supporter savagely beaten up… because he is a Trump voter:
http://www.infowars.com/shock-video-black-mob-viciously-beats-white-trump-voter/
Should give you an idea what will happen if the economy really stops functioning and the social situation explodes.
http://www.infowars.com/people-have-to-die-anti-trump-protester-calls-for-violence-on-cnn/
Hispanic calling for (anti-white) violence on CNN, not accepting the election outcome.
Remember that in the Ukraine the violent coup was 21 Feb 2014. The civil war in Donbass began 12 April, only weeks later.
The White House is located in a “sensitive area”. Not a nice place to set up residence.
It’s all wonderful to speculate how many people are going to die as a consequence of resource depletion, as has been done here routinely (“billions are going to die”).
Forget about peak oil. Civil war in the West is next, both in Europe and in the US. My guess is it will start in the US, soon.
#BetterWithEurope