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The Population Control Conspiracy

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Does the world need population control, or does it need corporation control? According to Jim Marrs in his new book Population Control: How Corporate Owners Are Killing Us, corporate owners, the one-percenters, are killing us, and it may be intentional.

Robert Edward “Ted” Turner III, who is suspected by some of being one of the members of the secret society behind the mysterious, disturbing Georgia Guidestones, himself has five children, but he wants the 99-percenters—those who do not have a bazillion dollars—to limit themselves to one child per couple for the next 100 years. The goal is to reduce the global population to 500 million.

Consider that the world population is currently about 7 billion and is expected to grow to almost 10 billion by 2050. So the elite psychopaths, who made a mess of our world in the first place through war and pollution, want to save humanity by killing humanity, called “a cancer on the Earth” by the guidestones.


 

The world is overpopulated, but, says Marrs, apparently those with great power and wealth have decided to take overpopulation into their own hands.

Dave Hodges, host of the “Common Sense” show, recalled how President Ronald Reagan once remarked that a threat by space aliens might be the unifying force necessary to bring the nations of Earth together in a common cause.

Hodges warned: “Indeed, all of mankind does face a common foe. However, it is not aliens. Our common foe is the elite that presume that they have the God-given right to exert ownership over all of us including the right to life or death. And for 95% of us, the elite are actively engaged in systematic extermination of mankind.”

This isn’t just something for the future—they are already killing us now. And it has been going on for decades. In the July 26, 2000 edition of the Journal of the American Medical Association, readers were shocked  to learn that the No. 3 cause of death for Americans was doctor related. Some researchers say there may be a million preventable deaths yearly in the U.S. caused by doctors and their pharmaceuticals.

Deadly food is another weapon the corporations are using to kill us.

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Hardcover, 376 pages

Food processing corporations have known for a long time that low-quality fats, salt and sugar are bad for us in the quantities they are consumed in the “standard American diet,” yet they use advertising and fraudulent “scientific studies” to convince the average American to consume a whopping 150-180 pounds of sugar annually and twice the recommended amount of salt, cheap fats and oils we should ingest. Why? These items are addictive, allowing for billions in sales to beef up the bottom line for the stockholders. Meanwhile obesity, diabetes, cancer and circulatory diseases are national health crises and on the rise.

What about Coca-Cola Inc.? There is nothing at all healthy about Coke, but its owners don’t want you to know that. In 2012, Coca-Cola, with other corporate giants Nestle, Kraft, Kellogg, General Mills and PepsiCo, donated nearly $10 million, in addition to the $12 million given by Monsanto and DuPont, to defeat California’s Proposition 37 proposal for mandatory GMO labeling, says Marrs.

It should surprise no one that the chief executive of Coca-Cola is also a regular attendee of the annual Bilderberg meetings.

Processed food is laced with sodium nitrate for color, the excitotoxin monosodium glutamate, MSG, for taste and various chemicals to extend shelf life while shortening human life. Food has been stripped of essential vitamins, minerals and other nutrients.

Substances have been added to our foods to drive consumers insane, while causing widespread infertility, organ damage and a loss of any ability to engage in rational, conscious thinking.

Fluoride, a toxic byproduct of the aluminum  corporations, is added to water supplies and toothpaste on the pretext that it will prevent cavities, although there is no evidence for that claim. The substance can, however, damage the brain, lower IQ and have other toxic effects.

Even our air has become hazardous thanks to industries spewing pollutants into it, says Marrs.


 

Between 1989 and 2005, average sperm counts in men have dropped from 73.6 million per milliliter to less than 50, making it hard for couples to have babies. Data place yearly sperm declines at 1.5% in the United States—and 3% in Europe and Australia. This is partly due to harmful chemicals in our food, water and air, fostered by giant multinational corporations run under shadowy owners whose names are often found on the list of Bilderberg attendees.

If these trends continue, humanity’s days on Earth may be numbered.

But there is still hope. Americans are waking up and taking matters into their own hands, as they did at the Cliven Bundy ranch in Nevada. Some say a second American revolution is in the making. But this time it will be against the mega-corporations here at home, not a king and Parliament across the ocean.

American Free Press



39 Comments on "The Population Control Conspiracy"

  1. James Tipper on Sat, 19th Sep 2015 3:15 pm 

    “If these trends continue, humanity’s days on Earth may be numbered.”

    What do these people not realize? Life is a joke and a game, you can either be a sucker your whole life or you can stop giving a shit. I mean really some Alex Jones-esque rants as well as some anti-corporate ramblings about the “elite”. Wow, I’m so FUCKING IMPRESSED AND MOVED. Are these people fucking stupid or just not aware of how completely trite they sound?

    I’m all for doomsday gloom but bring something new to the table, add new information. The same old fear-mongering crap is getting old. How about believing in some real issues like peak oil, an event which even though it has happened in dozens of countries worldwide, people still believe that it’s a “conspiracy”. Yes that’s right folks, tangible data and evidence is a conspiracy, but ramblings about Georgia Guidestones is the truth. What an idiotic country the U.S. can be.

    And who cares? The population of Earth SHOULD be about 500 million, then people could live a lot better and still live within balance. Anyone that’s actively encouraging population to grow at this point must be a psychopath of the highest order.

  2. Hello on Sat, 19th Sep 2015 3:18 pm 

    “If these trends continue, humanity’s days on Earth may be numbered.”

    Empty promises.

  3. penury on Sat, 19th Sep 2015 4:20 pm 

    I am glad to see that at least two others are as bored as I am.

  4. ghung on Sat, 19th Sep 2015 4:26 pm 

    “…disturbing Georgia Guidestones…”

    Not sure what’s so disturbing about the Guidestones, unless you’re a fundamentalist who is threatened by anything that challenges your narrow set of beliefs. I’ve never heard it suggested that Ted Turner had anything to do with them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

    “The Georgia Guidestones is a granite monument erected in 1980 in Elbert County, Georgia, in the United States. A set of 10 guidelines is inscribed on the structure in eight modern languages, and a shorter message is inscribed at the top of the structure in four ancient language scripts: Babylonian, Classical Greek, Sanskrit, and Egyptian hieroglyphs….”

    Whatever it takes to sell books to barely literate bozos I guess.

  5. onlooker on Sat, 19th Sep 2015 6:48 pm 

    Second that what is disturbing about this?
    MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000 IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE

    2. GUIDE REPRODUCTION WISELY – IMPROVING FITNESS AND DIVERSITY

    3. UNITE HUMANITY WITH A LIVING NEW LANGUAGE

    4. RULE PASSION – FAITH – TRADITION – AND ALL THINGS WITH TEMPERED REASON

    5. PROTECT PEOPLE AND NATIONS WITH FAIR LAWS AND JUST COURTS

    6. LET ALL NATIONS RULE INTERNALLY RESOLVING EXTERNAL DISPUTES IN A WORLD COURT

    7. AVOID PETTY LAWS AND USELESS OFFICIALS

    8. BALANCE PERSONAL RIGHTS WITH SOCIAL DUTIES

    9. PRIZE TRUTH – BEAUTY – LOVE- SEEKING HARMONY WITH THE INFINITE

    10. BE NOT A CANCER ON THE EARTH – LEAVE ROOM FOR NATURE – LEAVE ROOM FOR NATURE

  6. tahoe1780 on Sat, 19th Sep 2015 6:51 pm 

    We often hear of “Spaceship Earth”. Perhaps a more useful metaphor is “Lifeboat Earth”. http://www.garretthardinsociety.org/articles/art_lifeboat_ethics_case_against_helping_poor.html

  7. dubya on Sat, 19th Sep 2015 7:15 pm 

    What kind of brain-damaged moron writes this kind of shit? There does not seem to be any pre-requisite to, say, actually reflect the situation in the actual world.

    Apparently this secret cabal of population control geniuses has implemented diabolical policies and procedures since the 1960’s that have caused the human population of the earth to more than double. Presumably they are focussing their efforts on the United States, the only First world country growing at the same rate as, what, Nigeria?

    Perhaps we can get them to use their devious control methods on the African Elephant, California Condor, heck, why not try to wipe out the entire population of wild land and sea animals?

    Without these population reduction techniques we have managed to eliminate about half of the rest of Creation.

    If they can be as successful with those actually endangered species as they have been with humans we might actually accomplish something.

  8. onlooker on Sat, 19th Sep 2015 7:16 pm 

    Well, that is currently playing out as Europe must decide whether to take in the hordes of refugees continuing to come their way or just give them barely life sustaining assistance or not. Certainly we have reached the lifeboat stage very tough decisions need to be made. I do not quarrel with the premise of this book yet I agree with those who now see overpopulation has being the bane to all life on Earth. Yet the hard ecological limits will be much more efficient at reducing this overpopulation then anything Corporations can come up with.

  9. Makati1 on Sat, 19th Sep 2015 8:35 pm 

    It’s not the shortage of resources, it is the distribution. The world can support 8-10 billion humans but not at 1st world levels of waste.

    The reduction of human numbers is already being taken care of by nature as we have already lit the fuse that will destroy us all as the climates change and make human life (and that of most other living things) impossible.

  10. JR on Sat, 19th Sep 2015 8:39 pm 

    Very poorly researched article. Quoting absolute idiots like Dave Hedges reveals that ignorance of the author. The loaded questions are of course, already answered. Pretending to inform, the article simply provides another useless opinion.

    Do we need population control? Yes. Is this related question related in ANY way to what corporations are doing to our food supply? NO. Profits and cheap food govern their real reasons for “deadly food”. The author is actually claiming corporations are using food to kill us. Really? They’d be out of business rather fast if that was happening, lawsuits would be found everywhere.

    Do we need corporation control? Yes, but this is a different question and different topic. They are not even related to the original question. The author is a fucking idiot.

    The red herrings and conjectures abound in this hit piece. Death by doctors is related exactly HOW to population control? Is the reader to assume that this is “deliberate” and part of the population agenda? Bullshit.

    There are no such things as “God given rights”. Only stupidstitious morons believe such crap.

    And this really takes the cake, the “Bundy” claims. Idiots showed up and utterly failed to make the connections about Bundy and his extortion of the public land use issue. Morons and fools sided with Bundy stupidly thinking this was a “freedom issue” when it was really economic extortion.

    I know this came from the American Free Press, but come on. This is an incredibly poorly written, poorly researched hit piece designed to spread pure conjecture and answer its own biased “questions” which is supposed to convince the reader of the authors bias. All it did for me was show how completely stupid the author really is and how poorly researched this hit piece was.

    Damn – I did not read the comments before I wrote this. Glad to see others realize just how crappy “American Free Press” really is.

  11. BC on Sat, 19th Sep 2015 11:10 pm 

    http://www.amazon.com/Overshoot-Ecological-Basis-Revolutionary-Change/dp/0252009886

    http://www.amazon.com/Bottleneck-Humanitys-William-Jr-Catton/dp/1441522417

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF6F0bgvARc

    See Catton’s “Redundancy Anxiety” (if you can find it).

    We’re transitioning into the post-Peak Oil bottleneck, as articulated by Catton.

  12. Makati1 on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 12:55 am 

    And then there is this:

    ” If you want to consider your own future, imagine yourself in the shoes of one of the MENA refugees right now. Many of the ones who are making the trip had some basic monetary resources to afford the passage. But look at what they were reduced to in doing so. Imagine yourself now in a situation where the local stores are no longer stocked with food and other necessaries. Imagine your electricity being intermittent, maybe only on ten percent of the day. Imagine transportation breakdowns, perhaps gas is no longer delivered to your gas station. Imagine communications breakdowns. No Internet. No telephones (cell or land lines). What will you do?

    But more than that, imagine that you decide to escape. Where will you go. The MENA refugees have Europe, ostensibly, to escape to. They expect their problems to be greatly reduced in these new lands. After all, the North is rich. Where will you go? What country will you escape to? Maybe some Americans are thinking they will go to Canada! But do they actually understand what the climate changes are going to mean for all of North America?

    I doubt there will be any real escape. The best a sapient being can do is find a location that looks like it will be least impacted by climate, get situated and hunker down. With luck, you might just make it.”

    http://questioneverything.typepad.com/question_everything/2015/09/what-is-really-behind-the-refugee-crisis-in-europe.html

    The MENA crowd are showing the way of the world in the near future. Are YOU prepared?

  13. theedrich on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 2:48 am 

    My final example of a commons in action is one for which the public has the least desire for rational discussion — immigration.  Anyone who publicly questions the wisdom of current U.S. immigration policy is promptly charged with bigotry, prejudice, ethnocentrism, chauvinism, isolationism or selfishness.  Rather than encounter such accusations, one would rather talk about other matters leaving immigration policy to wallow in the crosscurrents of special interests that take no account of the good of the whole, or the interests of posterity.” — from http://www.garretthardinsociety.org/articles/art_lifeboat_ethics_case_against_helping_poor.html, thanks to tahoe1780 on Sat, 19th Sep 2015 6:51 pm

    The so-called “liberals” “progressives” and “Christians,” etc., are clearly either insane or willfully blind on this issue.  Or demonically malevolent.  In general they are people who hate the White race, even though they themselves may be White.  Any White who expresses reluctance to agree to White genosuicidism is immediately called a “racist,” a “holocauster,” “Hitlerite,” etc., etc. (see quote above).  The financial interests behind the 3rd-World population explosion manipulate the masses with graphic sob stories through the media — the current refugee wave invading Europe being a prime example.  The fact — fact! — of biospheric destruction through the explosion of ThirdWorld parasitism is fiercely suppressed with White Guilt propaganda from the intelligentsia.  Countless armchair commentators on all sides fancifully discuss the problem with calm and dispassionate “reason,” as though the fate of the world were not hanging in the balance.

    The U.S. fought two World Wars to prevent a single country — Germany —, and its chief ally in WW II, Japan, from expanding their Lebensraum a bit.  Today Allahland is expanding into the whole of Europe with a ferocity far greater than that of erstwhile Deutschland — only using the weapon of compassion-demand instead of military weaponry.  Ditto for Latin America and other sewerlanders in their invasion of America.  Meanwhile the Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich, Democratic (WEIRD) societies are deciding to accelerate their suicide (and that of the earth) by taking the invaders from hell into our lifeboat.  And the only WEIRD response to objections thereto is asserting that the members of Zero Population Growth and other concerned citizens need to be cast into the Outer Darkness.  Above all, if they are White.

  14. Davy on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 6:05 am 

    The Asiaphile said “It’s not the shortage of resources, it is the distribution. The world can support 8-10 billion humans but not at 1st world levels of waste.” This statement is rubbish and only said by this individual because he is in the very heart of overshoot in Asia. Both his country and his region are the worst place for what is coming both with population and consumption rebalance.

    There is little room for even another 500Mil. The reason is energy, food, and the ability to produce and distribute that energy and food. His lame statement about waste being the issues is just more excuses. Food and distribution waste is an economic issue much like the phantom loads were with electricity waste. There is a limit to efficiency. There is a degree of improvement in food and distribution waste but that is small compared with what is needed to grow population. Distribution waste and economic barriers are systematic and relate to economic health not individual attitudes on food.

    We are at limits with energy, the economy, and the basics of agriculture that also includes climate. We have an economy that is contracting from deflation and deleveraging. We have what appears to be a new long term cycle of demand and supply destruction in the economy and commodities sector. Our ability to produce with just-in-time distribution, economies of scale, vast monocultures and comparative advantage will be adversely effected by this demand and supply destruction. Our global systems minimum operating level to support population and consumption growth pressures is declining.

    Growth today is goal seeked and may in reality be negative consisting of mal-investment, overcapacity, bad debt extend and pretend. We are seeing a cannibalization of the lower classes and commons by wealthy elites and corporations without concern for the dynamics of future stability and sustainability. All of this points to the inability of growing population much more than another 500MIL which consequently is what our global population should be.

    We are going to see failures in the global systems ability to trade food and distribute food both in volume and exchange abilities. What I mean by exchange is that some counties are not going to have anything to exchange of value for food. Global debt will restrict debt for food. Reduced economic activity and food productivity stagnation will make those nations with surplus less able to contribute aid.

    This is a long term downward cycle that by the way will be increasingly be influenced by abrupt climate change we are just now seeing. These dynamics are all negative and converging. There is zero positive trends. Even technology and development is in decline in its effectiveness.

    This Asiaphile individual loves to crow about these issues until it reflects on his country and region. He wants to have his cake and eat it. He does not want to admit all the bad mouthing the rest of the world applies to him and his chosen place of refuge. His refuge is the worst placed and prepared for what is coming because of food and population rebalance.

  15. Kenz300 on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 7:15 am 

    Poverty breeds more poverty……

    If you can not provide for yourself you can not provide for a child.

    Birth Control Permanent Methods: Learn About Effectiveness

    http://www.emedicinehealth.com/birth_control_permanent_methods/article_em.htm

  16. noobtube on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 9:32 am 

    That is why Americans and Europeans are not reproducing… they are getting poorer and poorer because of their own stupid decisions.

    One American lifestyle for a year can support, on average 150 Africans.

    One European lifestyle for a year can support, on average 75 Africans.

    So, which life on Earth is the cheapest to have? An American? A European? Or, an African (or East Asian, Polynesian)?

    All Americans and Europeans do is create trash and refugees (from the countries they have destroyed)… the so-called 1st world lifestyle.

    Guess who the Earth has decided is the overpopulation problem?

  17. Boat on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 9:33 am 

    Davy,
    There is zero positive trends. Even technology and development is in decline in its effectiveness.

    There is more technology and development than ever before. Just because doomers wear blinders doesn’t mean the rest of us do. You doomers get overwhelmed like chicken little while normal humans go to work solving to-days challenges.

  18. Davy on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 10:14 am 

    Noober, it was so nice when you were gone for so many months. We had much less stink of pathetic agenda speak and lies. Why did you come back? Your buddy is still here. He loves when you join his agenda of hate and resentment.

    Noober, do you remember when you were here last? I do. Your message of how the US was going to crash and burn and your super heroes were going to rise like a Phoenix is a failed message. Why don’t we discuss that? The one you hate the most is still doing well in relation to your failing loved ones. Sorry Noober you lost the propaganda battle.

  19. Davy on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 10:20 am 

    Boat said “There is more technology and development than ever before.” Da Boater, do you have any support for you blanket statement? Can I asked you why the Fed could not normalize? Can I ask you why climate change is not being fixed? Why is pollution and ecological destruction out of control? Why is the oil industry, car industry, and consumerism in a death spiral? Boat you have no answers for these questions.

    Boat said “normal humans go to work solving to-days challenges.” No boat, normal humans go to work in jobs with no relevance to what really matter for our survival. They go to work creating more problems often times. Work today is about empty promises.

    Boat, try again.

  20. BobInget on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 10:23 am 

    Germany, Sweden are welcoming Iraqis, Syrians,
    as they did in the 1960’s with Turkey and Greece. Populations in Germany and Sweden are dropping faster expected BECAUSE of prosperity. With too few workers supporting too many retirees even the US faces the same problem with future Social Security.

    One presidential candidate would build a 1,600
    mile wall to prevent Mexicans easy entry.
    Another, not to be outdone, would build a Canadian border wall.

    This is not to say there is no right wing immigrant
    opposition in France, Germany and Greece.

    Up till recently American and Canadian politics have been fairly mild middle of the road stuff.
    Not unlike openly homosexual politicians, declared Communists or Fascists are rare.

    D. Trump, taking advantage of Blue-Collar fear of skin too dark, popularity speaks for itself.

    The big Republican move to defund Planned Parenthood, shut down the federal government based on a video says volumes about what the far right thinks about population control, women’s health and actual survival of democracy.

    Africa, India, Mid East, where we still see populations growing out a sight, the best ‘control’ is to improve infant mortality rates.
    If fewer infants die in before five years, parents will limit births.

    You watch birth rates among Iraqi, Syrians drop soon matching Swedish and German norms.

  21. Boat on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 10:52 am 

    Davy,
    Politics, who can run and win an election centering on world sustainability. Ain’t gonna happen till catastrophic events cost more more lives and money than the status quo can afford.
    Davy, just look around and you see machines replacing people in the work force. Agriculture alone over the last 100 years should give you a clue.
    That is efficiency. A flat tax displacing millions of workers is just another inevitable peek at the future.
    All countries need less population not more. No immigration not more. Your growth for growth sake is outdated. The world has yet to establish the correct tax policies when it comes to children.etc.

  22. apneaman on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 11:18 am 

    Boat, said “There is more technology and development than ever before.”

    So what boat most of it is just tweaking. Nothing new under the sun.

    You ever read physicist Tom Murphy’s blog boat?

    You Call this Progress?

    “One of the prevailing narratives of our time is that we are innovating our way into the future at break-neck speed. It’s just dizzying how quickly the world around us is changing. Technology is this juggernaut that gets ever bigger, ever faster, and all we need to do is hold on for the wild ride into the infinitely cool. Problems get solved faster than we can blink.

    But I’m going to claim that this is an old, outdated narrative. I think we have a tendency to latch onto a story of humanity that we find appealing or flattering, and stick with it long past its expiration date. Many readers at this point, in fact, may think that it’s sheer lunacy for me to challenge such an obvious truth about the world we live in. Perhaps this will encourage said souls to read on—eager to witness a spectacular failure as I attempt to pull off this seemingly impossible stunt.

    The (slightly overstated) claim is that no major new inventions have come to bear in my 45-year lifespan. The 45 years prior, however, were chock-full of monumental breakthroughs.”

    http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the-math/2015/09/you-call-this-progress/

    The golden quarter

    Some of our greatest cultural and technological achievements took place between 1945 and 1971. Why has progress stalled?

    http://aeon.co/magazine/science/why-has-human-progress-ground-to-a-halt/

  23. Davy on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 11:34 am 

    Why are all those robots at Boater? You have been watching too many “How is it Made” on AE. In the real world Boat there is not that much manufacturing. Robots are not going to replace burger flippers and hairdressers.

    Boat, efficiency is a false prophet of the cornucopians. Your efficiency is in any case hitting diminishing returns on its effectiveness as a productivity enhancement. Many times it is just a cost because it actually is less efficient than letting a sleeping dog lie IOW doing nothing when one considers total lifecycle cost.

  24. GregT on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 11:45 am 

    Boat said:

    “There is more technology and development than ever before.”

    Without a doubt, the most clueless ‘thought’ that you have posted here so far.

  25. apneaman on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 11:46 am 

    Davy, The History channel’s error ridden “Modern Marvels” also makes good fap viewing for cornucopian fan boys.

  26. Boat on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 2:14 pm 

    Davy,
    Robots don’t have sick days, they don’t need SS medicare and medicare. They do not have ever rising healthcare costs. PS That is why Greece is in trouble. Pensions and health care for hairdressers when they cannot afford it. After your so called crash how many hairdressers you gonna need. You socialists need a makeover.

  27. apneaman on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 2:30 pm 

    Boat, better watch out for those lefty socialists when too many of them get hungry. Right wing fanatical body counts ain’t got nuthin on them.

  28. Davy on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 2:42 pm 

    Boat, drop the robot subject. It is so irrelevant to what we need to be talking about. Robots are important and have a place in the scheme of things but their impact in the coming 5 years is nil. Their future is nil.

  29. Steve Challis on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 5:34 pm 

    Is this article intended to be serious? It would not even make a good April Fools trick.

  30. GregT on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 5:38 pm 

    @Steve,

    If it wasn’t true, it might make for a good April Fools trick. But sadly the topic has been well researched, and it is not in the least bit funny.

  31. Steve Challis on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 5:50 pm 

    Population control is pervasive, well documented and historically has been very successful.
    Governments and religious leaders have been attempting to INCREASE the population of their countries or congregations for millennia and are partly responsible for the continuing rapid increase in the human population of the Earth.

  32. apneaman on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 6:04 pm 

    Sure thang Steve.

    http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

  33. GregT on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 6:21 pm 

    “Population control is pervasive, well documented and historically has been very successful.”

    Problem solved then. Population control has been successful. We have absolutely nothing to be concerned about.

  34. JuanP on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 7:14 pm 

    Oh, my God! The Noob is back. I have to congratulate you because you kept your promise of not posting comments for quite a long time, Noob!

  35. Davy on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 7:32 pm 

    Greg, Steve made a valid point. There is population control but the wrong kind.

  36. JuanP on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 7:42 pm 

    Yes, Davy. I think maybe Apnea and Greg misread Steve’s comment. TPTB, including governments and churches in general, have always manipulated and controlled people to have them breed more. Go forth and multiply, child credits, and whatnot. The goal has always been to increase the numbers of taxpayers, laborers, and their flocks.

  37. apneaman on Sun, 20th Sep 2015 7:45 pm 

    Sorry Steve if that’s what you meant.

  38. Steve Challis on Mon, 21st Sep 2015 3:43 pm 

    Apneaman,
    Yes that was what I meant.

    GregT,
    I understand that you were being sarcastic, so obviously I did not explain my position well.
    I regard the political and religious leaders who are trying to increase the number of children people are having as being the deadly enemies of the natural world in general, and of humanity in particular.
    This is the main point of a book I am writing. If it ever gets published I have little doubt that I will get accused of the exact opposite of what I am saying. I expect this book to be the least popular of all my unpopular books,

  39. GregT on Mon, 21st Sep 2015 3:54 pm 

    My apologies as well Steve. I also misunderstood you.

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