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The oil route that could be at the center of a U.S. warning of ‘unrelenting force’ against Iran
After what national security adviser John Bolton called “a number of troubling and escalatory indications and warnings,” the U.S. government said Sunday that it was deploying the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group and a bomber task force to the U.S. Central Command (Centcom) region.
Centcom’s operational area includes the Middle East and Central Asia, but Bolton’s statement indicated that U.S. attention was primarily focused on one country: Iran.
The move’s intended message, Bolton said, was to send a “clear and unmistakable message to the Iranian regime that any attack on United States interests or on those of our allies will be met with unrelenting force.”
It was not immediately clear what prompted concerns over an Iranian attack.
After withdrawing from the 2015 Iran nuclear treaty, the Trump administration has put significantly more pressure on Iran in recent months by imposing sanctions on Iranian oil exports and by blacklisting Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps as a terrorist organization.
While Bolton’s strongly worded statement to announce additional measures over the weekend was as unusual as those previous moves, the deployment of additional U.S. resources to the region amid heightening tensions has become a more regular occurrence: The reason is the narrow stretch of water at the mouth of the Persian Gulf, the Strait of Hormuz.
Amid threats from abroad, Iran has often been quick to remind the world of its key location along one of the world’s main oil tanker routes. It once again threatened to close that key transport route in recent weeks. When Bahrain, a Persian Gulf nation with a sizable U.S. troops presence, threatened that it would not allow Iran to proceed with such a move, an Iranian official responded: “Mind your small size and do not threaten someone bigger than yourself.”
The Strait of Hormuz is one of the world’s most crucial transport routes for oil. About a third of the world’s oil tanker traffic passes through the strait, which is bordered by Iran and Oman. In 2016, 18.5 million barrels of petroleum were shipped through it every day, making it the world’s single most important maritime route for many nations’ oil supplies.
Theoretically, Iran could attempt to cut off the Strait of Hormuz – which connects the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman – by deploying its naval vessels or laying mines, which could take months to clear. At its narrowest point, the strait’s shipping route is only two miles wide. But the U.S. military has extensive footholds in the region, including the headquarters for the Navy’s 5th Fleet in Bahrain.
If theStrait of Hormuz were inaccessible, the world’s supply in shipped daily global oil exports would suddenly drop by about 30 percent, experts predict. Overall oil supplies would drop by about 20 percent, according to numbers compiled before the recent U.S. sanctions on Iranian oil exports took effect.
Some of the oil may be rerouted via pipelines that have been expanded over fears of an Iranian-Western clash, but those are still limited in capacity and more expensive.
As a result, oil prices would immediately spike, as Arab oil suppliers would lose their market access either entirely or to a large extent. Given the global economic repercussions, the United States and other adversaries of Iran would likely take military action. The United States would not be the only nation interested in resolving a dispute as quickly as possible, however, as the vast majority of supplies are delivered to Asian markets, in particular to Japan, India and China.
Iran has made similar threats before, for instance, in 2011, 2012, 2016 and 2018.
Some of those threats were intended to be rhetorical, at least in the short run. Last July, for instance, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani implied that Iran had the power to severely disrupt the oil trade in the Persian Gulf, which would likely have meant an attempt to blockade the Strait of Hormuz. Rouhani later appeared to repeat his veiled threat and was quoted on his official website as saying: “Mr. Trump! We are the people of dignity and guarantor of security of the waterway of the region throughout the history. Don’t play with the lion’s tail; you will regret it.”
Trump eventually responded on Twitter, writing that Iran “WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE,” in case it threatened the United States.
But prior incidents have shown how serious both nations take the Strait of Hormuz, and how easily maneuvers could escalate. In 2016, Iranian naval vessels veered close to American warships in the strait, prompting a U.S. warning. “These are incidents that carry a risk of escalation, and we don’t desire any kind of escalation,” Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook warned Iran at the time.
With more U.S. military assets headed into the region, the likelihood of an escalation has once again inched up.
70 Comments on "The oil route that could be at the center of a U.S. warning of ‘unrelenting force’ against Iran"
Duncan Idaho on Mon, 6th May 2019 2:06 pm
Stash Man is a homicidal nutcase.
Let’s hope the Fat Boy gets mad at him soon, and sends him to a harmless rage center.
Robert Inget on Mon, 6th May 2019 2:37 pm
I’ll bet no one here can name the US Sectary of defense. (There is no Senate Confirmed)
Looks like we may go to a long and bloody war with Iran. (Bolton’s wet dream)
Apart from Israel and Saudi Arabia we will get zero help from the EU or Asian nations.
It’ll be America First all the way.
Are we to nuke Iran for Not building nuclear weapons? IOW’s if they had N weapons, would we dare?
Every Pentagon war game has us in a very tough fight akin to Vietnam or North Korea. Is it worth it just to keep Trump around for a few more months?
Patrick Shanahan, ACTING Sec of Defense.
Duncan Idaho on Mon, 6th May 2019 3:08 pm
“I suspect Bolt’s weirdly misshapen head was caused by a botched forceps delivery which resulted in the impairment of the frontal lobes of his cerebral cortex. Damage to these lobes, especially if it occurs perinatally, impairs critical thought processing and often causes the person affected to develop pathological egotism, vindictiveness and fanaticism. He possibly has other deformities hidden under the large moustache. There are other causes of perinatally induced conduct disorder such as the mother smoking/drinking/taking drugs or being physically abused. It’s an interesting subject.”
Possibly- but he could be just criminally insane.
A hiring plus with Fat Boy.
boney joe on Mon, 6th May 2019 4:23 pm
DavySkum you have NO moral authority to criticize others. You’re a LIAR and a HYPOCRITE.
Three examples among many to demonstrate just how much of a fraud is Davy. Whenever you read a Davy prediction, bet on the opposite viewpoint and you will always win. Davy is a PERFECT negative barometer of expected outcomes.
“Trump is going to disrupt the establishment that is taking the status quo in dangerous directions.”
What, by installing neocons into central positions of power and authority? No danger there.
“He is going to hinder and slow up the status quo wealth transfer.”
Really? Via his $2.5 Trillion tax giveaway to those earning in excess of $785,000?
He is going to do this through nationalism with managed trade and controlled borders.
Through nationalism? What, by tearing the country apart? Brilliant.
Davy on Mon, 6th May 2019 4:24 pm
Do as I say NOT as I do.
Robert Inget on Mon, 6th May 2019 5:24 pm
Oh, Trump is doubling down on tariffs. With
Congress, FBI, NY Dept. of Justice, bearing down. Time to come up with new justice avoiding stratagems.
A Trade war victory would be great. Even if it’s along shot, “what could possibly go wrong?”
.
Trump’s ex-lawyer enters prison today.
Doubtless, Not lost on Trump.
He, Trump promised not to get into small, elective wars. Sure. But this is different.
Bolton has a plan.
Say— Israel intercepted an Iranian plot to harm US interests either in the Gulf or Iraq. This could be an excellent time to ‘show the flag’. Gunboat diplomacy worked before, Bolton is betting it will work again. If you don’t believe Israel then you surly must be Anti Semitic -;)
Trump once again REFUSED to obey laws of the US. Not surrendering his tax returns to Congress is in-itself, subverting justice.
“Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Monday told House Democrats he would not furnish President Trump’s tax returns despite their legal request, the latest move by Trump administration officials to shield the president from congressional investigations”.
“Mnuchin, in a letter to House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Richard Neal (D-Mass.), said he had consulted with the Justice Department and that they had concluded that it would not be lawful for the Trump administration to turn over the tax returns because of potential violations of privacy” Wash Post.
Best case, all of Trump’s crimes drag on in the courts until a State law officer serves up Trump with an iron clad case he would rather not see go public.
DerHundistLos on Mon, 6th May 2019 5:32 pm
MORE SHOCKING EVIDENCE of ECOLOGICAL ARMAGEDDON: Implementation of Alternative III
BREAKING NEWS
As many as 1 million species are at risk of extinction, posing a profound threat to human well-being, a sweeping U.N. report concluded.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/06/climate/biodiversity-extinction-united-nations.html?emc=edit_na_20190506&nl=breaking-news&nlid=89000417ing-news&ref=cta
makati1 on Mon, 6th May 2019 5:53 pm
Now wouldn’t the USS Abe, sunk in the Strait’s channel, send a message to the US? A 12 billion dollar plus trade stopper that would take months, if not years to remove.
Doesn’t anyone in the Beltway have two brain cells still functioning? It doesn’t seem so.
GO TRUMP! TRUMP IN 2020! LMAO!
boney joe on Mon, 6th May 2019 6:00 pm
Lovin’ the Donald- NOT
Trump In Name Only: Trump Logo Toxic to Business
Many properties Trump claims as part of his real estate empire are in fact in name only. This has become evident by virtue of the fact that the residents and owners of Donald Trump golf courses and buildings throughout the US are stripping Trump off its entrance.
Recently, residents of Trump Place on the Upper West Side of Manhattan joined three other buildings in the neighborhood in stripping the president’s brassy five-letter name from their 46-story building.
This happened in addition to losses at President Donald Trump’s golf courses, and decisions by several hotels that had licensed the president’s name to drop it. Thus far, 23 properties have elected to jettison the Trump name for good, and 9 more are slated for removal.
makati1 on Mon, 6th May 2019 6:25 pm
FYI: the new Trump Tower here in Manila is in the Red Light District. Just thought you might like a chuckle. ^_^
JuanP on Mon, 6th May 2019 6:39 pm
boney joe is a juanpee sock
“boney joe on Mon, 6th May 2019 6:00 pm Lovin’ the Donald- NOT Trump In Name Only: Trump Logo Toxic to Business”
This is the real JuanP:
JuanP on Thu, 30th Jun 2016 4:56 pm
I think I could use my antisocial, psychopathic, sociopathic skills to convince people to vote for Trump. I can be very convincing when I want and I am excellent at manipulating people.
Davy on Mon, 6th May 2019 6:41 pm
FYI: the new Trump Tower here in Manila is in the Red Light District. Just thought you might like a chuckle. ^_^
chuckle. ^_^ makato knows the place well.
LMFAO PERVERT
makati1 on Mon, 6th May 2019 7:45 pm
Davy, I happen to pass it on the way to one of my favorite malls in Rockwell. You probably frequent the Red Light District nearest you for sex. The only place you can get it outside of your goats.
Davy on Mon, 6th May 2019 7:48 pm
I am married makato no problem with getting sex. You are the one with the live in boyfriend…but but you are not out of the closet yet. LOL. Business partner is what you call him….sure thing there makato.
Robert Inget on Mon, 6th May 2019 7:50 pm
Priests, fake news propagandists, lawyers, real-estate moguls, doctors, dentists.. especially dentists, some are also perverts.
IOW’s seeking, holding, power over others, at any cost w/o regard to morals, truth, self respect toward women/men, other’s reputations.
This goes for ‘pussy grabbing’ molesters as well.
Rape is nothing more than a power play.
Sex work is real, often dangerous work. Folks have been exploiting sex workers since the beginnings of time. It’s time Davy stops calling the profession ‘perverted’. Had more dentists or coaches or priests, most of all dentists, frequented sex workers instead of kids, they wouldn’t be called perverted. Plus, kids would just grow up finding out about sex in due time.
makati1 on Mon, 6th May 2019 8:02 pm
I didn’t know goats could say “I Do” Davy. LOL
DerHundistLos on Mon, 6th May 2019 8:10 pm
Do any of you morons ask why is it the elite of the world (ex. Bill Gates and Warren Buffett) have no sense of urgency concerning the global ecological apocalypse now in motion? Matter of fact, it appears they are doing their level best to accelerate a complete global breakdown of the environmental system upon which all life depends, including via the creation of a dumbed down public, particularly in the US (notably Republicans who are in total ignorance and denial).
NEWS FLASH……………An urgent warning about the natural world.
Farming, logging, poaching, fishing and mining, along with global warming, are speeding up extinctions and devastating ecosystems “at an unprecedented pace,” an exhaustive U.N. study concluded.
And that means damage to wetlands that purify drinking water, coral reefs that sustain fisheries and plants that medicines come from. Even with quick government action, the report says, it’s too late to do more than slow the decline of biodiversity. Above, an olive ridley sea turtle on a beach in India.
A separate study notes that the few hundred Bengal tigers left in India and Bangladesh will have no suitable habitat by 2070.
YOU CAN’T FIX STUPID. Trump likes to brag he never reads anything more than a page in length. Great example for our youth.
union-of-muzzie-lovers-of-america-AKA-fmr-paultard on Mon, 6th May 2019 8:12 pm
the colonel was chair of anti muzzies gatestone institude. all good
union-of-muzzie-lovers-of-america-AKA-fmr-paultard on Mon, 6th May 2019 8:14 pm
der still not submitting evidence of probing?
makati1 on Mon, 6th May 2019 8:21 pm
Robert, at what age do you consider proper for kids to learn about sex? If you live on a farm it begins shortly after you learn to walk. If you lived in the middle ages, you were likely married by age 15. Only recently have we kept our kids from becoming “adults” until they are well past puberty.
“The lowest state Age of Consent in the United States is 16.”
“The lowest Age of Consent in the world is 11, in Nigeria”
“The highest state Age of Consent in the United States is 18.”
“The highest Age of Consent in the world is 21 in Bahrain.”
https://www.ageofconsent.net/highest-and-lowest
As for adult/child sex, well, that too varies by culture and country. See the above “laws”. Not that laws are ever totally followed or enforced. See the Catholic Church. Boy Scouts of America, etc.
This was an interesting topic to research, but laws will not stop “child abuse”. It will only get worse as the SHTF. “Abuse” comes in many forms. Which would you consider worse: a “child” having sex with an “adult” or a child starving to death because of adult sanctions and wars? Just askin’.
JuanP on Mon, 6th May 2019 8:23 pm
Shut-up homophobe DavyTurd.
Since DavyTurd is incapable of countering facts, he always falls back to his old standby- ad hominem name calling.
Time to resurrect more Donald J. Trump predictions and Democratic conspiracy theories. He has vomited this crap for years while hoping and praying just one of his shit stories turns out real.
DavyTurd strategy: Throw enough shit against the wall, something is bound to stick.
DavySkum = Moral and Intellectual Bankrupt.
JuanP on Mon, 6th May 2019 8:27 pm
Funny how the DavyTurd retarded sock, fmr-paultard, always appears when it’s time to deflect the conversation.
By the way, douche, you told Cloggie yesterday that you signed off PO.com at 6:30 PM.
Surprise, surprise, another LIE.
Davy on Mon, 6th May 2019 8:32 pm
JuanP, you have yet to show any prediction to debate likely because you talk out your ass. In fact you don’t say anything of substance that expands knowledge on our forum. You are just a waste of time stalker.
Davy on Mon, 6th May 2019 8:37 pm
Pee brain I also said I am on longer when mongrels like you are stalking me. Juanpee, you have been triggered for almost a year now because of me. What a wasted mind you are. VICTORY
makati1 on Mon, 6th May 2019 9:16 pm
Davy, do you see yourself in that comment? “stalker”, “wasted mind”, Pavlov’s dog who cannot miss a chance to use some immature putdown to prove your addiction? You truly are a nut case if you lose sleep so you can try to prove your self assessed superiority. Another word for stupid arrogance. Get help.
Cloggie on Mon, 6th May 2019 9:28 pm
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/06/politics/south-china-sea-warships/index.html
“Amid trade tensions, US warships challenge Chinese claims in South China Sea”
Is Santa going to give white folks world-wide a third present, after Brexit and Trump?
#BeerAndPopcorn
You can always hide under the table, mak!
makati1 on Mon, 6th May 2019 9:43 pm
Blatant propaganda/brainwashing/warmongering.
This is so insane…and by Jew Bannon of course. The bullshit lies are in flashing neon all the way thru this bloviating piece. Appearing in WaPo, of course.
“Bannon: We’re In An Economic War With China. It’s Futile To Compromise”
Too many lies and exaggerations to even post here. Who is the president, Trump or Bannon?
Especially precious: “If China halted such grand theft, its enterprises would be rapidly outcompeted by the Germans, South Koreans, Japanese and especially the United States.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-06/bannon-op-ed-were-economic-war-china-its-futile-compromise
How? With snowflakes like these who cannot even face finals, let along the real world?
“University Provides ‘Therapy Donkeys’ To Students Ahead Of Finals”
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-06/university-provides-therapy-donkeys-students-ahead-finals
The donkeys are the students afraid of the real world. And Bannon thinks they will “Make America Great Again”? LMAO!
makati1 on Mon, 6th May 2019 9:44 pm
Cloggie, the US is more likely to start a war in Europe than in Asia. I’m not worried. You should be.
Cloggie on Mon, 6th May 2019 10:02 pm
“Cloggie, the US is more likely to start a war in Europe than in Asia. I’m not worried. You should be.”
They absolutely would love to sick Europe in a war against Russia. But you underestimate the political changes underway in Europe. The hour of retribution for ww1/ww2 isn’t very far off…
Meanwhile in your neighbourhood…
“https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-06/china-tells-us-to-butt-out-of-south-china-sea/11085180”
“China repeats calls for US to stay out of disputed South China sea”
Come on, yellow man, your hour has arrived.
And to make things more interesting… the booty offering itself and presenting the pretext on a silver platter:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-20/south-china-sea-australian-warships-challenged-by-chinese/9677908
“Australian warships challenged by Chinese military in South China Sea”
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/01/04/well-see-how-frightened-america-is-chinese-admiral-says-sinking-us-carriers-key-to-dominating-south-china-sea/
“We’ll see how frightened America is’ — Chinese admiral says sinking US carriers key to dominating South China Sea”
https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/sink-two-aircraft-carriers-chinese-admirals-chilling-recipie-to-dominate-the-south-china-sea/news-story/aaa8c33d57da62e7d5e28e791aa26e0f
“‘Sink two aircraft carriers’: Chinese Admiral’s chilling recipe to dominate the South China Sea”
Missouri, after all, mak?
Anyway, the hour of continental European liberation from Anglo-Zionist imposed multicultural destruction will coincide with the sinking of the first American vessel in the South China Sea.
Anonymouse on Mon, 6th May 2019 10:27 pm
The uS is upset at Iran because…..
#1. The will not accept uS toilet paper as payment for oil. This is the big one. The uS really hates that, which is why the uS wants Iranian oil exports to drop to zero. All other reasons the uS claims as a basis for hating Iran are secondary and or are a mix of bullshit next to this.
#2. The uS does not control Iran as a puppet\client state the way they used to. IoW, Iran has an intolerable level of independence from Israel and Washindum. Cant have that.
#3 Iran is in a position to supply energy, ie oil, to counties the uS rather dislikes, and does not control directly. Doing so, would potentially allow these independent minded nations or groups of nations, to surpass or even eclipse the uS in wealth, power and overall development. Iraq (was) also in a the same position as Iran is today. Do you see anything like a unified Iraqi state left able to make deals with whoever they wish on terms not dictated by washingdum, Isreal or Jew York? Of course you do not. The uS made sure Iraq exists today in name only. Also…Libya.
#4. Iran helps, to the extent it is able to do so, the peoples of the Middle East resist uS\Jew\Saudi terrorsm. Most Iranian help in this area, is pretty low-key, with Syria being an exception.
Problem of course, is the Jewnited snakes continually talks out of both sides of their pie-holes on the matter. This is a feature of the amerikan regime and its war-criminal spokescreatures and operatives, not a bug.
annonymouse-the-tard-aka-fmr-paultard on Mon, 6th May 2019 10:38 pm
as a tard and former paultard i was trained in college. i did poorly because i was intrested in looking at naked ladies. i barely graduated with bachelor arts (liberal arts) with concerntration in physics. makako has a hs diploma so i’m supposed to look up to him as a zenith of human development? nah
the most frustrated and angry creatures are gearheads. severe lacking of theory leads them insane and it breaks my heart to watch them. theory is not everything and in many fields, it struggle to catch up to experimental results but theory is there to guide you.
makati1 on Mon, 6th May 2019 10:55 pm
Cloggie, I don’t underestimate the changes in Europe. I see them from outside the ‘frog pot’ you don’t. My assertion stands. I see nothing that can save Europe except a total divorce from the US and that doesn’t appear to be in the cards.
Trying the Davy method of distraction by pointing to something that a US MSM propaganda source is trying to sell its dumbed down audience doesn’t work. ABC is NOT a reputable source for unbiased “news”.
As for you last mention of the Admirals comment. A true statement. The Chinese own the SCS and everyone knows it. Even the US Admirals. So what?
Cloggie on Tue, 7th May 2019 2:25 am
Cloggie, I don’t underestimate the changes in Europe.
But you refuse to draw conclusions from them.
I see them from outside the ‘frog pot’ you don’t. My assertion stands. I see nothing that can save Europe except a total divorce from the US and that doesn’t appear to be in the cards.
Exactly that is happening, almost all the populists are Russia-oriented, not US-oriented:
https://images.app.goo.gl/BtU18UgErgn9VL139
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/11418959/Vladimir-Putin-receives-a-warm-welcome-from-Hungarian-PM-Viktor-Orban.html
Putin is Europe-oriented:
https://images.app.goo.gl/xxSHD6ALofYFnmME8
And even many in official Germany support an rapprochement with Russia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkxvd0K94V8
And then there is the “vassal-EU”, who are counting the days until they can kiss their overlord goodbye:
https://www.rt.com/news/387313-us-losing-leadership-eu-mogherini/
makati1 on Tue, 7th May 2019 2:43 am
Cloggie, you seem to have a more Eurocentric view of the EU than I do. Could it be due to the same MSM propaganda that the US is suffering under?
What kind of CIA false flag would it take to set off the war between Russia and the EU? Maybe a hothead in Poland? They are not too bright anyway. Or some idiot in the Ukraine? False flags are the war starting method of choice for the empire, in case you haven’t noticed
I read about some “disagreements” between the US and EU, but no real action. Just words. Until I see some concrete moves and no wobbling, I will hold with my assertion.
The US is trying to destroy any competition in every area, trying to hold on to the disappearing empire. The EU is one of the largest by economy, 2nd only to China and no military threat. A “safe” victim. The tariffs are coming. Be patient. The US is getting more and more desperate.
BTW: China is NOT going to be attacked militarily. The US needs what China makes and supplies. It’s military would die without the chips and rare earths, not to mention dozens of other ‘necessary’ materials only China supplies. No to mention the “nuclear option” of dumping over $1,000,000,000,000.00+ of USTs and USBs on the market, destroying the US economy.
Whereas, what does the EU supply that the US ‘needs’? Seems to me, only fools.
Theedrich on Tue, 7th May 2019 3:32 am
Alan Dershowitz wrote a perceptive book, “The Case Against Impeaching Trump” (January 1, 2019) available at Amazon.com, months before Bob Mueller finished his investigation. In it, he lays out the evidence that what we saw in that long, expensive inquisition is the criminalization of political differences, and effectively the liquefaction, negligence, and slow evaporation of the U.S. Constitution. Some example passages:
Dershowitz, a renowned Harvard law professor emeritus, notes that the increase in political extremism on both sides, but particularly by anti-Trump leftists, portends ill for our future political life. He argues for a return to rationality and respect for civil liberties. Unfortunately, such a return seems improbable at this point, given the massive changes taking place through demographic change and the maniacal calls for a complete change of government which would abolish capitalism and create a one-party state.
But maybe he will be remembered as one of the last voices of the ancien régime after the Empire has become the new Soviet Gulag the race-mixing Davos elites want it to be.
makati1 on Tue, 7th May 2019 3:49 am
Theedrich, Many here will oppose my suggestion that the US is headed for a dictatorship. It is not far off even now. Executive Orders are nothing more than imperial decrees, subverting the ‘democratic’ process. The ‘Congress’ has not sought to control them in recent years.
How many ‘wars’ started by presidential decree without Congressional approval? Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, and maybe Venezuela and/or Iran? How is the growing Police State different from the German gestapo? Only in name. Ditto for the growing control over the serf’s every movement. “Papers” to cross state lines? Certainly to get on a plane, even if it is a domestic destination.
How soon until the dictatorship is obvious to even the denialists? Some think it is already here. GO TRUMP! TRUMP IN 2020! ^_^
Davy on Tue, 7th May 2019 4:14 am
“Davy, do you see yourself in that comment? “stalker”, “wasted mind”, Pavlov’s dog who cannot miss a chance to use some immature putdown to prove your addiction?”
I debate makato I don’t stalk. There is a big difference you and your boys can’t rise to. If I read something extreme, fraudulent or outright lies I attack it. On this forum attacking is normal and so is whining out of pussies like you. Have you noticed you are increasingly turning into an annoy and juanpee by stalking me? It is one thing to debate what I say another to trash it with ad hominem attacks because you don’t like me. I moderate and neuter your extremism, makato, you hate that. You think you are always right and special. I rain on your parade because you are not special and often very wrong. You do you use facts but in fraudulent ways that push a narrow agenda. As far as this Pavlov’s dog shit it is just more of your redundant one liners of an old man who is losing cognition. Kinda like you saying slop slidin after so many comments. Same shit without deeper commenting shows you are fading away.
Davy on Tue, 7th May 2019 4:17 am
“Come on, yellow man, your hour has arrived.”
“Cloggie, the US is more likely to start a war in Europe than in Asia. I’m not worried. You should be.”
Two old men obsessed with hate and war. You two lower the intellectual standards here to base tabloid emotions.
Davy on Tue, 7th May 2019 4:23 am
“Anonymouse on Mon, 6th May 2019 10:27 pm”
“The uS is upset at Iran because…..”
My God annoy struggled but finally made a comment?? WTF happened?? It is his usual extremist anti-American kind but a comment. I have been stalked by annoy for months so I know he has not made a real comment for a long time. Yet, his comment is full of bias and part of the anti-American low IQ night crew. This is when the natives do their war hoops and circle jerk. LOW IQ
Davy on Tue, 7th May 2019 4:26 am
“Trying the Davy method of distraction by pointing to something that a US MSM propaganda source is trying to sell its dumbed down audience doesn’t work. ABC is NOT a reputable source for unbiased “news”.
Yet you routinely use MSM when it suits you don’t you dumbass! LOL. You are one screwed up old man with zero substance and long on hypocrisy.
Davy on Tue, 7th May 2019 5:01 am
“Dershowitz, a renowned Harvard law professor emeritus, notes that the increase in political extremism on both sides, but particularly by anti-Trump leftists, portends ill for our future political life. He argues for a return to rationality and respect for civil liberties. Unfortunately, such a return seems improbable at this point, given the massive changes taking place through demographic change and the maniacal calls for a complete change of government which would abolish capitalism and create a one-party state.”
Good find thee! Yea, the corporate swamp around the DC black hole has lost its mind but the reality is across the world we see similar aberrations from higher government. It is a competition thing. Power corruption and entrenched privilege in a period of decline drive these psychopathic tendencies. This is now systematic and global. The US has just sunk into the swamp finally without any moral and ethical beacon. It was never very high on the ethical ladder but now there is no good leadership anywhere that projects power. A few voices is all that remains of insignificant individuals in regards to influence. This is what bad competition does and corrupted global capitalism has allowed it. There is a vibrant alternative media on every side fighting this in the US. Our board anti-American extremist have a wealth of data to preach their shit because the US is the best source of negative news on the US. The net is allowing a transparency the corrupted corporate fake news media used to aspire to.
Thee, you like to make this a demographic issue just like cloggo but demographics is not the real issue. Demographics is being used by the extremist liberal left as a source of identity conflict. Divide and conquer through identity emotions is what the extremist liberal left is expounding. It is backfiring on them and may lose them the presidential election. The real issue is the corruption of the wealthy elite and again this is global. It is not just a US thing although the corruption is very evident in the US because of the wealth of sources attacking or promoting agendas. You don’t see this as much in Russia, China, or the EU because there are things you are not allowed to talk about.
I don’t see a call to change the government. I see a move by a bifurcating deep state to have majority control of an already corrupted system of a corporate and political oligarchy. There is a call for a socialistic driven pseudo capitalism that is mainly from the minority of loud mouths on the extremist liberal left. It will never sell across the country because most regions are skeptical of giving the central government even more control of their dwindling wealth. It likely won’t sell in an election and even if it does it will be stymied in congress. That is one thing good about the US congress, it is paralyzed. At a time when most policy is bad paralysis is a protection.
Davy on Tue, 7th May 2019 5:02 am
“GO TRUMP! TRUMP IN 2020! ^_^”
HOW CHILDISH AND LOW IQ
Intellectual nematode Alert! on Tue, 7th May 2019 5:11 am
Dumbass on Tue, 7th May 2019 5:02 am
The Weekly Star on Tue, 7th May 2019 5:58 am
fmr-paultard aka DavyTard
Yes, you have told us COUNTLESS times how smart you are by virtue of your “degree” in physics- LOL.
What a fricking phony.
Shut-up already, retard.
JuanP on Tue, 7th May 2019 6:10 am
this is more juanpee stalking through multiple personalities.
Intellectual nematode Alert! on Tue, 7th May 2019 5:11 am
The Weekly Star on Tue, 7th May 2019 5:58 am
Davy on Tue, 7th May 2019 6:20 am
“Good find thee.”
If you will be my friend, I’ll give you my truck stop special free of charge!!!!!
makati1 on Tue, 7th May 2019 6:32 am
Pavlov’s dog barks again! He just cannot resist showing off his immaturity and arrogance. Woof!
Finish the job Trump! You’re doing great! Only a few more countries to piss off and alienate from the US. Isolate! Isolate! Isolate! Go for 100%! You can do it!
GO TRUMP! TRUMP IN 2020! LMAO!
Cloggie on Tue, 7th May 2019 6:35 am
“Whereas, what does the EU supply that the US ‘needs’? Seems to me, only fools.”
I know that Americans don’t take Europeans serious, take them for granted and see it as a place to bomb and unload their natzi and holohoax propaganda onto.
But if you look at the trade data, things look a little different:
EU-US trade and mutual investment volumes are the largest in the world. White race thingy.
Trade volume:
EU 5.4T
US 4.9T
CN 4.3T
All the quality stuff the US imports comes from Europe, the Wallmart stuff from China.
Planes, satellite lauches, microchips machines, Mercedes, BMW, Cartier, Chanel, fashion, wind turbines, the best food: all European.
Lawnblower, Hammer and nails: China.
Davy on Tue, 7th May 2019 6:35 am
“Pavlov’s dog barks again! He just cannot resist showing off his immaturity and arrogance. Woof!”
I see you woofing makato but you are getting too old to see it. Say something lame brain.
JuanP on Tue, 7th May 2019 6:36 am
I posted this:
Davy on Tue, 7th May 2019 6:20 am
“Good find thee.”
If you will be my friend, I’ll give you my truck stop special free of charge!!!!!