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The Fourth Turning: A Summer Of Rage And The Total Eclipse Of The Deep State
“If you do a worldwide survey of eclipse lore, the theme that constantly appears, with few exceptions, is it’s always a disruption of the established order,” said E. C. Krupp, director of the Griffith Observatory in Los Angeles, California. That’s true of both solar and lunar eclipses. “People depend on the sun’s movement,” Krupp said. “[It’s] regular, dependable, you can’t tamper with it. And then, all of a sudden, Shakespearean tragedy arrives and time is out of joint. The sun and moon do something that they shouldn’t be doing.”
On August 21st of this year, the United States will witness its first total solar eclipse seen across the totality of the country in nearly forty years. For millennia, humans have gazed towards the skies in awe, observing that heavenly bodies move regularly and predictably with mathematical certainty, and this has inspired poets, philosophers, and other thinkers to ruminate on man’s relationship to the universe, and the possibility that human activity is ruled by laws and patterns independent of human activity.
Although many of these ideas that were fashionable hundreds of years ago, such as astrology, have been put to rest by contemporary scientific knowledge, perhaps there is value to be gleaned from entertaining the possibility that there are indeed larger forces and patterns governing human affairs. Against the backdrop of this cosmically anomalous event, are we on the cusp of a more temporal form of disruption this summer in the United States?
Since President Donald Trump’s stunning victory over Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election, much of the press have made note of Steve Bannon’s interest in an influential book published in 1997 called, “The Fourth Turning: What Cycles of History Tell Us About America’s Next Rendezvous With Destiny.”
In this book, authors William Strauss and Neil Howe make the argument that our ideas about the nature of history, linear time, and progress are illusory, and that if we want a more accurate concept about the way that history unfolds, we would do well to study the ancient Greek concept of cyclical time. This concept views national and global historical phenomenon not as randomly occurring events, or the linear march of historical “progress,” but instead sees them as recurring archetypes placed into a larger tapestry of a greater repeating historical cycle.
According to Strauss and Howe, the relative geographic and historical isolation of the United States provides a unique opportunity to view this cycle unfolding regularly and predictably every 80 years.
This 80-year cycle can be divided into four stages or seasons, each lasting approximately twenty years:
- High– This initial stage occurs immediately following a period of crisis. The High is characterized by strong institutions, a sense of collective destiny, and a weakness of individuality. The most recent example of this would be the period of prosperity and conformity in the U.S. immediately following the conclusion of World War II.
- Awakening- The second stage, or turning, is a period of questioning established values and asserting one’s independence from established norms and morals, be they spiritual or political. This stage may be seen as a rebellion of the previous era’s emphasis on material wealth and conformity. The 1960’s, with the psychedelic revolution, anti-war protests, Civil Rights marches, and New Age spiritual movements can be seen as recent characteristics of this second stage, as well as Reaganomics and the mid-1980s Wall Street ethos.
- Unraveling- The emphasis on autonomy and the questioning of spiritual, political, and individual authority in the Awakening stage eventually destabilizes society, leading to the Third Turning, in which institutions are weak and untrusted while the subjective experience of the individual is emphasized. This stage can be thought of as the inverse of the initial High stage, where collective destiny is replaced by atomization. Recent symptom of this stage would be the culture wars, corporate malfeasance, a lack of faith in government, social justice movements, and political correctness.
- Crisis- In the Fourth Turning, a destabilizing event, usually involving warfare, leads to the destruction and reconstruction of institutions of power. In the face of destruction, Americans are forced to unite and forge a vision to restructure a disrupted society. This fourth stage can be seen as the inverse of the Awakening stage, and the authors cite World War II as the defining event of the most recent period of Crisis.
Strauss and Howe predicted that the next Crisis period that the U.S. would face would happen sometime around 2005 and end around 2025. Anyone who has been paying attention over the last decade would have a difficult time refuting this. The financial crisis of 2008 threw the planet into discord, and we are now just beginning to see some of the political ramifications of this. We may be reaching the apex of this crisis this summer, or at least we will witness a significant acceleration of it.
The institutions that once defined American stability are rapidly crumbling. Mounting debt, unsustainable consumerism, and illegal immigration are chipping away at once sturdy foundation of America.
And the robust civil discourse needed to solve these problems has been interrupted by advocates of social justice, sometimes violently. Recent small skirmishes between the two sides may be headed toward larger eruptions.
Some analysts are predicting a ‘Summer of Rage’, which will boil over in violent protests all across the United States. The DNC has called for a George Soros-financed ‘Resistance Summer’, in which protestors are encouraged to invade town halls, and organize rallies and neighborhood meetings to undermine President Trump. This will culminate in a national training being billed as a ‘Resistance Summer Camp’ to effectively train operatives inorganizing strategies.
Meanwhile, other leftist groups are calling for a day of ‘Impeachment Marches’ on July 2nd in dozens of major cities across the country. Their goal is to pressure congressional representatives to begin impeachment proceedings against President Trump.
Emboldened by a mainstream media apparatus which functions as a mouthpiece of Deep State interests, these activists are determined to overturn democratically elected officials and overturn law and order on the grounds that they personally disagree with the results.
As we have seen in recent months, Trump supporters, conservatives, and other patriots are not afraid to confront leftist activists in the streets, and this is likely to intensify as these DNC-backed groups become more desperate and confrontational in their tactics.
James Comey’s congressional testimony this week showed that the Trump administration is indeed attempting to break the old political order and its far-too-power Deep State. The cracks are surfacing now, and this will likely shatter and spill into many facets of social life outside of the realm of politics.
This shattering seems to be the apex, or perhaps the precursor to the major Crisis event described by Strauss and Howe in the Fourth Turning, and it is proving to be a global movement, as evidenced by the recent elections this week in the United Kingdom.
As the Soros-backed DNC footsoldiers wreak havoc in American cities this summer, and the old political order is eclipsed by what is shaping up to be a much more democratic order, we can expect these types of events to increase in frequency as well as intensity.
38 Comments on "The Fourth Turning: A Summer Of Rage And The Total Eclipse Of The Deep State"
onlooker on Sun, 11th Jun 2017 1:36 pm
Don’t for a second believe in this mumbo jumbo of cycles. I do believe in certain predictability in human behavior. In that regard this treatise makes some sense. But the overarching reality is that this time in human history is UNIQUE. We have never been in overshoot of the entire planet as a species. We have never been living so unsustainable collectively as NOW. We have never had 7 plus billion on this planet at once. Oh and we have never destabilized the very life support systems of this planet they way we have are are doing now. So uniquely menacing is our status now.
Cloggie on Sun, 11th Jun 2017 3:34 pm
Overshoot, depletion, climate change, will not play a role of significance in the coming few years in America.
This article is far more to the point regarding real drama that is to be expected for America.
Eclipses, 20 years cycles, 4th Turning, don’t know. Too abstract, the world is multi-interpretable.
On August 11, 1999 I was in Munich, Germany and experienced my first and probably last full eclipse. It was not as shattering an experience as standing at the edge of the crater of the Etna Vulcano, where I could literally sense the structure of the planet by simply listening. The eclipse gave me the feeling that I was standing on a different planet, further away from the sun, like on Mars. Spooky.
Back to the article… I agree with the conclusion that a major social crisis will soon entangle the United States. Think American Revolution of 1776 or the Civil War of 1886, that order of magnitude.
– The American Revolution, in contrast to conventional American-centric interpretations, was in essence an offshoot of the European power struggle, where France and Holland were motivated to give Britain a “hair-cut” and deprive it of a valuable colony, after Britain had the nerve to remove the French from of the North-American continent entirely. It was about preventing Britain from becoming too powerful in Europe.
– The American Civil War was about the struggle over the character of the United States: a traditional agrarian society, like in the South, or a progressive, industrial society, enabled by coal and recent discovered oil.
– The coming struggle will again be over the character of the United States in the future. The fight will be over keeping America a majority white country, loyal to its European roots (that’s what the Trump voters want) or a country without majorities, that’s what the coloreds, the white left and of course the kosher leadership in the deep state wants (Democrats). A compromise is not really possible, so a conflict is preprogrammed. As long as Trump remains in power no major armed conflict is to be expected, just a hot summer, as the article described. But assume that in 2020 Mark Zuckerberg will become president of the United States and will begin to implement his program of universal healthcare and basic income, to be paid for largely by Trump voters and perhaps general gun-confiscation. That could be the moment when the revolt could begin, as it did in Yugoslavia, Syria and Ukraine.
Apneaman on Sun, 11th Jun 2017 4:02 pm
clog is living in his own private Idaho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAWF1OaMD8U
Apneaman on Sun, 11th Jun 2017 4:34 pm
Terrified and disgruntled humans will eat up any horseshit that promises them hope. A decade ago all the dumb entitled white people and Ophra were gobbling up “The Secret” by Australian hope pimp Rhonda Byrne. “The Fourth Turning” is in the same vein. Same with decades of “positive psychology” mania and tens of thousands of other “self help” books which have been written and read for millennia.
The sub title – “An American Prophecy” is the only clue needed.
In spite of their claims being little more than unscientific cyclical theory, they are currently taken seriously by a lot of conservatives and liberals alike, because their theory offers conservatives the hope that society is on the verge of cycling out of the social changes of the 1960s and 1980s and back to the social conservatism of the 1940s-1950s, and liberals the hope that society is on the verge of cycling out of the Reagan-Bush era of deregulation and privatization and back to the New Deal and Keynesian economics of the 1940s-1950s. But first, of course, society has to go through the Big Crisis that comes along every 80 years and is coming again, soon according to the authors.
Since their theory is closely tied to study of the characteristics of American generations (“Baby Boomers,” “Generation X,” etc.,), they were in demand as media go-to people on generational history, which they inevitably used as a platform to pimp their pseudoscientific cyclical theory.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/William_Strauss_and_Neil_Howe
The humans are in the ‘final’ turning heading down the homestretch. Over 99% of all species to ever exist have gone extinct, it’s not cyclical (a predictable pattern) but it is guaranteed when their environments change beyond their evolved capabilities to survive. Since the humans have triggered a mass extinction there is no “prophecy” needed to understand where they be going – bye bye.
Apneaman on Sun, 11th Jun 2017 4:42 pm
The Father Comes Singing
There is the father coming,
There is the father coming.
The father says this as he comes,
The father says this as he comes,
“You shall live,” he says as he comes,
“You shall live,” ‘he says as he comes.
– Sioux Ghost Dance Song
The Historian Comes Singing
There is the 4th turning coming,
There is the 4th turning coming
….buy my book
Cloggie on Sun, 11th Jun 2017 5:16 pm
France essentially turning into a one party state under Macron:
http://www.lefigaro.fr/elections/legislatives/2017/06/11/38001-20170611LIVWWW00130-en-direct-resultats-elections-legislatives.php
The French give Macron a mandate to expand the powers of the EU.
Cloggie on Sun, 11th Jun 2017 5:42 pm
http://odinist.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/CrLH5TPXYAIrXcM.jpg
Apneaman on Sun, 11th Jun 2017 5:43 pm
Clog “Overshoot, depletion, climate change, will not play a role of significance in the coming few years in America.”
It already has for over a decade and that goes for the entire world.
2016: A historic year for billion-dollar weather and climate disasters in U.S.
“The year 2016 was an unusual year, as there were 15 weather and climate events with losses exceeding $1 billion each across the United States. These events included drought, wildfire, 4 inland flood events, 8 severe storm events, and a tropical cyclone event (see map below). Cumulatively, these 15 events led to 138 fatalities and caused $46.0 billion in total, direct costs. The 2016 total was the 2nd highest annual number of U.S. billion-dollar disasters, behind the 16 events that occurred in 2011.”
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/blogs/beyond-data/2016-historic-year-billion-dollar-weather-and-climate-disasters-us
Maybe you have a different definition of the word ‘significant’ where all the infrastructure must be total destroyed, there are no jobs or food and peoples heads start exploding.
Apneaman on Sun, 11th Jun 2017 5:58 pm
What does it mean when clog and the briebart mouth breather clan cannot even be satirized anymore?
Climate Change Deniers Present Graphic Description Of What Earth Must Look Like For Them To Believe
“For us to accept that the average surface temperature of the Earth has risen to critical levels due to mankind’s production of greenhouse gases, we’ll need to see some actual, visible evidence, including a global death toll of no less than 500 million people within a single calendar year,” said spokesperson William Davis, 46, of Jackson, NJ, who added that at least 70 percent of all islands on the planet would also have to become submerged under rising seas before he and his cohort would reconsider their beliefs. “To start, we’re going to have to see supercell tornadoes of category F4 or higher ripping through Oklahoma at least three times a day, leveling entire communities and causing hundreds of fatalities—and just to be perfectly clear, we’re talking year-round, not just during the spring tornado season.”
“The reality is that we’re still experiencing cold, snowy winters, and the entire global population is not currently embarking on cross-continental migrations in search of arable land,” Davis continued. “Until that changes, we cannot be expected to believe climate change is occurring.”
Davis went on to say that certain events, such as massive, uncontrollable wildfires across the U.S—not just restricted to the American West, but in areas including Florida and New England—would render climate change deniers open to reevaluating the decades’ worth of data that show the planet is warming at a catastrophic rate. Additionally, Davis said that for the community to begin believing a single word of any scientific journal article corroborating climate change, every one of Earth’s glaciers would have to retreat at a rate exceeding 20 miles per year, and each of the skeptics, individually, would have to go a decade without seeing naturally occurring ice anywhere.
Furthermore, climate change deniers maintained that if the total number of plant and animal species on the planet remained higher than 200 in aggregate, they would not be dissuaded from their belief that Earth is simply experiencing one of its natural warming cycles that would eventually resolve itself on its own.
“I don’t think it’s too much to ask to see a super hurricane destroying the Southeast U.S. and another one at the same time decimating the Pacific Northwest before I make up my mind about this,” said global warming skeptic Michelle Wilkinson of Medina, MN, adding that she would be willing to recognize the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change if repeated and unpredictable storm surge flooding rendered every major East Coast city, including Boston, New York, Philadelphia, and Washington, D.C., wholly uninhabitable. “The fact of the matter is that if I walk outside at any time of day at any point in the year and it’s below 90 degrees, then there simply isn’t enough proof that we need to be cutting carbon emissions.”
After clarifying that the desertification of major population centers, and the global refugee crisis that would result, would be necessary but not sufficient evidence of climate change, the skeptics reportedly unveiled a vivid artist’s rendering of the vast expanse of parched, lifeless earth and dead trees that each of them must see through the windows of their homes before reversing their opposition to public schools teaching children about global warming.
“We keep hearing all this mumbo-jumbo about the sixth mass extinction we’re in the midst of,” said Mitch McConnell, a U.S. senator from Kentucky, at the conclusion of the press conference. “Well, if that’s the case, then tell me this: Why aren’t the streets littered with human bodies right now, with the ragged bands of the still-living siphoning the moisture from the corpses of the dead?”
“We’re not unreasonable; we just need the evidence to be convincing before we make a decision,” McConnell added.”
http://www.theonion.com/article/climate-change-deniers-present-graphic-description-51129
makati1 on Sun, 11th Jun 2017 6:49 pm
“The Forth Turning” is not about the entire world. It is only about the FSofA. If you look at it from that view point, it is spot on. Cycles do occur and we are in the beginning of winter in this one. I have lived thru the first three and agree with their observations. Now I get to see the last one before the reset, mine and that of the FSofA.
And, yes, the reset is coming but not for a while and not until after there are radical changes in America. It will not experience a great “Spring” like after WW2. As some here mentioned, we live in a different, yet similar, world. What will the FSofA reset too? I can only say that it will not be anywhere near today’s level/standard of living. Not even close. Think maybe Russia or China for examples. We shall see.
Davy on Sun, 11th Jun 2017 8:05 pm
“China’s “Bubble Prophet” Sees Unprecedented Surge In Home Prices”
http://tinyurl.com/y7cgt2ys
“Zhu Ning, deputy director of the National Institute of Financial Research at Tsinghua University and author of “China’s Guaranteed Bubble: How Implicit Government Support Has Propelled China’s Economy While Creating Systemic Risk”
“Question: Is China heading for a crisis?
Answer: Housing prices were allowed to rise so much in the past 12 months and there’s still no tangible long-term mechanism to shape the proper expectations for the housing market or for the economic transition. People still want the economy to grow at 6.5 percent to 7 percent, people still have “the-higher-the-better” mentality. We’re kicking the can down the road by buying time not to keep things in check, but to blow the bubble into an even bigger one. What’s happened over the past two years has made any new reforms even more difficult to roll out.”
“Question: Can China nonetheless muddle through for a number of years?
Answer: Maybe three to five. I thought people would take a more careful approach to the housing market and keep things in check. Things are a whole lot harder to manage now than they were a year ago. Two years ago there was a lot of low-hanging fruit to be plucked and a lot of easy reforms to push forward and we don’t have to even talk about a crisis.”
“If debt is allowed to grow at this pace we’ll be seeing 400 percent of GDP by 2020 and that’s probably putting China on a par with Japan by then. That’s something we haven’t seen before, but China is something we’ve not seen before. The simple math for that is that 300 percent GDP of debt at 5 percentage point of interest translates into 15 percent of GDP, so whatever we’re making, that’s not enough in terms of simple cash-flow calculation to pay the interest coverage.”
“Question: What might trigger a crisis?
Answer: In another three years we might see foreign reserves dipping down to $2.5 trillion and maybe even lower. That’s where the real test comes. Now you can still argue that if foreign speculators are trying to short the yuan we still have enough ammunition in our arsenal, so we still have this credible threat. But hypothetically, if reserves dropped to $2 trillion — and deep down in everybody’s mind China’s optimal or maybe minimal foreign reserves size should be somewhere between $1.5 trillion to $2 trillion — that’s when all the sharks in the water will smell blood. That’s the real test. China may be different. But we haven’t seen a country can put up a meaningful fight once it’s running out of reserves.”
Cloud9 on Sun, 11th Jun 2017 8:07 pm
The observable fact that things are born, grow up, grow old and die, lends credence to the notion that all things including empires suffer the same fate. Thomas Cole painted The Course of Empire 1833-1836. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Course_of_Empire_(paintings)
In my experience, artists tend to be sensitive souls, and Cole no doubt tapped into the zeitgeist of his time when he imagined the final state of empire being a pile of rubble. A host of southern cities suffered a similar fate as the city Cole depicted. Drive from Atlanta to Savanna and note the chimneys that serve as tombstones to once flourishing estates. Travel Western Europe and you will find bones of the Roman Empire dotting the landscape. It is not hard to imagine that our Empire will suffer a similar fate.
Some of us pride ourselves in our impassioned logic and our emersion into the scientific method. We hold ourselves up as rational beings. Yet still, we fall victim to our own road rage. In spite of all of our cognitive abilities, we find ourselves captured by political narratives that are nothing more than secular religions. What we know is far outweighed by what we don’t know. We base our core beliefs on assumptions and suppositions. We are in fact very primitive and superstitious beings.
This reality makes us highly susceptible to numerology, charlatans and false prophets. When calendars roll over, things get dicey. Consider the import we place on the transition from one century to the next. Remember Y2k and the end of the Mayan Calendar? Throw in some biblical signs like blood moons and solar eclipses and things get more exiting. The collapse narrative is never ending. Credence is added to it every day with another failed business closing its doors and another foreclosure sign popping up in the neighborhood. The narrative is well on its way to becoming a self-fulfilling prophesy. The herd is on edge. A single thunder clap will at some point trigger a stampede.
makati1 on Sun, 11th Jun 2017 8:48 pm
And then there is these articles for the last week:
“Why The Markets Are Overdue For A Gigantic Bust”
“U.S. Weeks Away From A Recession According To Latest Loan Data”
“Retail Apocalypse: Up to 10,000 U.S. stores will shut down in 2017”
“Illinois Bonds Fall as Budget Impasse Pushes Rating Toward Junk”
“States With the Most Foreclosed Homes”
“Jim Rogers Warns Next Crisis Will Be “Biggest In My Lifetime””
“Northwest Wheat Farmers Battle Fungus”
“The Elusive Search for Justice in the American Police State”
“After Laying off Thousands, Boeing CEO Says Offshoring Work to China Won’t “Directly Harm” US Jobs”
“Wall Street Wakes Up to #Carmageddon”
“US food price inflation continues to outpace overall inflation”
“Report: 15 Million Americans’ Drinking Water Tainted By Toxic Chemical”
“Opioid epidemic could derail Trump’s infrastructure plans”
“Starved School Budgets Across the US: A Symptom of Education Funding Crisis”
“5 Trends That Are Destroying The Middle Class In America”
“Great Debt Unwind: Bankruptcies by Consumers and Businesses Jump”
“Trump’s America Is Facing a $13 Trillion Consumer Debt Hangover”
“Those not in the labor force grew by 608,000 last month to 95 million”
“Decline of Empire: Parallels Between the U.S. and Rome, Part I”
“Decline of Empire: Parallels Between the U.S. and Rome, Part II”
“Decline of Empire: Parallels Between the U.S. and Rome, Part III”
Charting the decline of the American Empire.
Apneaman on Sun, 11th Jun 2017 9:16 pm
Mak you agree with their observations? How many other historians or sociologists or anthropologists do?
So it’s just America eh? Because they are special/exceptional I guess?
Did you read the book?
How can it only apply to America when they make claims that world events, like the US revolutionary war, which was only a small part of greater world events of the time and WWII and the great depression are also turnings? So those events only have a cyclical effect on the US, but are random for the rest of the worlds societies? Exceptional indeed.
The core idea dates to the ancient world, but it only applies to the US?
A saeculum is a length of time roughly equal to the potential lifetime of a person or the equivalent of the complete renewal of a human population. The term was first used by the Etruscans. Originally it meant the period of time from the moment that something happened (for example the founding of a city) until the point in time that all people who had lived at the first moment had died. At that point a new saeculum would start. According to legend, the gods had allotted a certain number of saecula to every people or civilization; the Etruscans themselves, for example, had been given ten saecula.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saeculum
The Gods and the forth turning and the exceptional US – real scientific.
Hubert on Sun, 11th Jun 2017 9:36 pm
America is beyond bankrupt. These idiots are having a hard time figuring that part out.
Chris Hedges – “The Myth of Human Progress and the Collapse of Complex Societies” – Full Speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAo7ky1kq-Q&t=669s
makati1 on Sun, 11th Jun 2017 10:23 pm
Ap, I don’t need someone else to support my assertion. My own experiences and studies support it. Denial may just mean you don’t want to believe it or that you have not researched the topic enough. My personal experience supports the four turnings.
The best years of America were the mid 40s to the 60s, after WW2, the 1st Turning.
The 2nd turning was the years the gold standard ended and fiat money took over the economy.
Then came the 3rd turning (80s/90s) as the U$ had to import more and more of it’s energy (oil) to keep pace and massive debt became the way to keep the whole system from collapsing.
Now, that same debt is killing the U$ as sure as the heroin epidemic and the insanity in DC. (4th Turning).
Doubt or put the Turnings down, but the end is the same. The U$’ collapse. Why do you think the U$ is trying so hard to get a real war going? It is the only way to distract the serfs and maybe do a repeat of WW2 recovery. It will fail as this time no one wins, but there is no other way as far as TPTB are concerned. As I said, insanity.
makati1 on Sun, 11th Jun 2017 10:32 pm
BTW: America, if you want to know your “enemy”…
“The Social and Economic Achievements of North Korea” by Carla Stea – Global Research’s correspondent at United Nations Headquarters, New York, N.Y.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-social-and-economic-achievements-of-north-korea/5594234
“This article began with quotes from three great American patriots, Reverend Martin Luther King, former President Jimmy Carter, and former US Attorney General Ramsey Clark, denouncing our country’s violence. History will condemn the current US-led United Nations assault on the DPRK as one of the greatest crimes of the twenty-first century.”
Cloggie on Mon, 12th Jun 2017 3:30 am
So it’s just America eh? Because they are special/exceptional I guess?
Yes only America and there is only one reason why America will have to go through this process of either blissfully disintegration or terribly “neo-Sovietize” and that is the insane immigration policies as pursued by the kosher-run “deep state”, where millions of completely incompatible people are forced to live together in a slave state that can only be held together by draconian authoritarian means.
And it was all the work of apneatards tribe, just like the USSR was the work of apneatards tribe:
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/immigration.pdf
I still thank a certain Austrian politician that at least we in Europe do not have to go through the horrors of a “Fourth Turning”:
https://i0.wp.com/overdemuur.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/razzia-gelderse-kade.jpg?fit=708%2C486&ssl=1
(Amsterdam, 1943)
Cloggie on Mon, 12th Jun 2017 3:47 am
This is what it means to be a member of the US empire, constant promotion of passive genocide:
http://www.pi-news.net/omma-und-oppa-die-welt-lacht-ueber-germoney/
It is almost impossible to see an advertising about ice-cream, washing-powder, anything, without being confronted with this kind of race-mixing propaganda.
High time to bury this empire once and for all. Go for it Donald, destroy the “ship of state”.lol
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/09/opinion/donald-trump-health-care-bill.html
If the likes of Paul Krugman hates something, than it should pursued.
Cloggie on Mon, 12th Jun 2017 4:33 am
Donald Trump is now going to be charged with “corruption” by two Attorneys General (Karl A. Racine (D.C.) und Brian E. Frosh, Maryland, both Democrats of course). Core of the charge: no proper distinction between Trump’s private business interests and his public office.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/washington-d-c-und-maryland-planen-klage-gegen-donald-trump-a-1151661.html
This is the first time ever. The US political system is blowing itself up.
Cloggie on Mon, 12th Jun 2017 4:43 am
Brian E. Frosh (a bit of a Richard Heinberg beta male type, like most leftists)
http://media.washtimes.com.s3.amazonaws.com/media/image/2016/02/04/BrianFrosh.jpg
Karl Racine (dr Huxtable type):
http://www.nationallawjournal.com/image/EM/Karl-Racine-Article-201411051013.jpg
makati1 on Mon, 12th Jun 2017 5:24 am
Cloggie, the EU may not be in a ‘4th Turning’, but it is already disintegrating faster than the U$ and for mostly the same reasons. Greed, debt, and uncontrolled immigration. Throw in a dozen or so old ‘nation states’ that have been warring against each other for centuries and you can see that the end is in sight, no reset to better times. Japan and Australia are not much better. The West is toast and it is beginning to burn. Call it what you will, it is ‘game over’.
Davy on Mon, 12th Jun 2017 5:47 am
Extremist cloggie and makati at their finest. Makati you are so far off in the deep end of bias agenda it is pathetic. Asia and Europe are dead man walking. You guys just can’t accept this or you just like stirring up shit. Probably both conditions because you both are shit disturbers. America is disintegrating for sure but please, in a vacuum.
DerHundistlos on Mon, 12th Jun 2017 4:15 pm
Hair Clogged-
Congratulations!!!!!! It’s not even close…….You have earned the Nuttier Than a Fruitcake Award hands down.
It’s time to send the guys in white coats armed with butterfly nets after Hair Clogged.
Cloggie on Mon, 12th Jun 2017 5:16 pm
Cloggie, the EU may not be in a ‘4th Turning’, but it is already disintegrating faster than the U$ and for mostly the same reasons.
You seem to have missed that this weekend the French rejected again old school nationalism in favor of further deep EU integration. In the parliamentary election Macron got more than 2/3 of the seats and can now do what he wants. And he wants Europe.
The EU is here to stay and without the British all the obstacles for really deep integration are now removed.
Airbus is to build new European fighter jet and chime in with ambitions to form EU army (the Russians love it), in line with request from president Trump to take on a larger share of the defense burden, which we are happy to do:
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201706121054557088-eu-army-airbus-fighter/
The EU wants to build a new parliament building in Brussels:
http://www.politico.eu/article/parliament-looks-to-build-new-brussels-home/
Forget it, I know that you and Davy want to see doom everywhere, but it is getting a bit old really. This is no longer 2005 any more.
Congratulations!!!!!! It’s not even close…….You have earned the Nuttier Than a Fruitcake Award hands down. It’s time to send the guys in white coats armed with butterfly nets after Hair Clogged.
100% sneer, 0% substance.
Davy on Mon, 12th Jun 2017 5:21 pm
Clog, you are a Euro braggart with little to brag about. That makes you kind a goofy.
onlooker on Mon, 12th Jun 2017 5:40 pm
Sorry to say everybody is going down pretty much together: Mak, Davy and Clog
makati1 on Mon, 12th Jun 2017 7:56 pm
onlooker, you are correct, but we are all going ‘down’ at different speeds. The West, lead by the U$, is speeding to the bottom. The rest of us are slowly winding down to a slower lifestyle. There is a HUGE difference.
Davy on Mon, 12th Jun 2017 8:56 pm
Hiuge difference is you are in the midst of the worst overpopulation on the planet and already at the bottom makati. This is why you talk so tough being a bottom feeder what else do you have.
makati1 on Mon, 12th Jun 2017 11:19 pm
“No longer is it at all reasonable to characterize the United States as a stable democracy. It’s certainly not stable now; and, also, it’s certainly not a democracy. And the present long-term trend is in the wrong direction.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-12/gallup-finds-stunning-decline-americans-respect-us-government
“In any case, what seems clear is that Americans now strongly dislike ‘our’ federal government and generally consider it to be «corrupt» or not really «our» government, but instead to be somehow «their» government of »us». And, also obviously, if this long-term trend continues, then the American public will be heading into a pre-revolutionary condition, and, beyond that, into a revolutionary one. If the existing long-term trend continues, then the result will be either the overthrow of the U.S. federal government, or else a lock-down of first the Internet and then the public, at a time of already overcrowded prisons. Of course, when there is not space to accommodate additional prisoners, then military compounds become resorted to — and martial law.”
Getting interesting … in a Chinese way. lol
makati1 on Mon, 12th Jun 2017 11:20 pm
Bullshit,as usual, Davy. Go tend your goats. They miss you. LMAO
Cloggie on Tue, 13th Jun 2017 4:09 am
https://lewrockwell.com/2017/06/patrick-j-buchanan/civil-war-near/
Good old Pat Buchanan today:
Are We Nearing Civil War?
President Trump may be chief of state, head of government and commander in chief, but his administration is shot through with disloyalists plotting to bring him down.
We are approaching something of a civil war where the capital city seeks the overthrow of the sovereign and its own restoration… That the objective of this city is to bring Trump down via a deep state-media coup is no secret. Few deny it… Another example. According to Daily Kos, Trump planned a swift lifting of sanctions on Russia after inauguration and a summit meeting with Vladimir Putin to prevent a second Cold War.
The State Department was tasked with working out the details.
Instead, says Daniel Fried, the coordinator for sanctions policy, he received “panicky” calls of “Please, my God, can you stop this?… While all the evidence is not yet in, it appears an abnormal number of conversations between Trump associates and Russians were intercepted by U.S. intelligence agencies… To prevail, Trump will have to campaign across this country and wage guerrilla war in this capital, using the legal and political weapons at his disposal to ferret out the enemies within his own government.
Not only is this battle essential, if Trump hopes to realize his agenda, it is winnable. For the people sense that the Beltway elites are cynically engaged in preserving their own privileges, positions and power… He should campaign against the (((real enemies of America))) First by promising to purge the deep state and flog its media collaborators.
Time to burn down the Bastille.
Summary: Trump is basically a guy of good will, who wants to execute his America First, anti-globalist campaign agenda, but is frustrated by the (((deep state))).
Buchanan is basically calling for civil war.
End result will be a new geo-political order:
https://postimg.org/image/n7wrkxs6z/
Cloggie on Tue, 13th Jun 2017 4:39 am
https://www.infowars.com/insider-the-republic-is-being-prepared-for-trump-assassination/
Trump has made enemies with the globalists and now they want him dead
Trump is the real deal after all.
Cloggie on Tue, 13th Jun 2017 6:43 am
Hard-Brexit off the table. May has weak cards in her upcoming negotiations with Brussels. Many voices in Britain now opt for a soft-Brexit, which would mean remaining member of the common market, which implies a less cocky British attitude in the upcoming negotiations.
The likelihood that a regular deal will be reached has now increased.
Britain would remain a little bit of a member, but could no longer block deeper integration (read: EU army).
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/grossbritannien-labour-und-tories-sprechen-offenbar-ueber-weichen-brexit-a-1151859.html
Cloggie on Wed, 14th Jun 2017 9:26 am
End of war in Syria in sight.
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/06/syria-summary-the-end-of-the-war-is-now-in-sight.html#more
Assad will win and probably recapture all of the original territory.
The Shi’it Crescent will not be broken:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia_Crescent#/media/File:Schiitischer_Halbmond.jpg
KSA and Qatar are now in conflict with each other, which is very good for Assad.
joe on Wed, 14th Jun 2017 10:21 am
It’s unlikely that Assad will get all of what was Syria back. The Kurds will likely have an independence referendum which will cause a war with Turkey, one imagines a scenario where the Kurds hitherto communist/socialist will come to accept US/Saudi aid with the proviso that they permit more extremist Islam in their ranks. The whole thing is a scam. Iraq will not survive whole, nor Syria and probobly not Saudi Arabia cause that’s not the PNAC plan, the Hashimites will be restored to Mecca cause they are the last of the Qoresh, the tribe of Mohammad. They used to preserve the religion intact, the Saudis simply blew up every holy place in Arabia and want to do the same over the whole Earth. Liberal women are the target of Islam the perfect wahabbi women is a silent baby making machine, the perfect wahabbi child is a silent punch bag, its like Catholicism on steriods.
Cloggie on Wed, 14th Jun 2017 12:52 pm
End of Western global hegemony: India and Pakistan to become full members of SCO:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/india-pakistan-become-full-members-of-sco/articleshow/59070103.cms
cause that’s not the PNAC plan
Please joe, the PNACies took down their website a long time ago.
PNAC is dead and so it NAC.
joe on Wed, 14th Jun 2017 4:16 pm
It’s the plan clogg, I never said it would work….