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The Broken Chessboard: Brzezinski Gives Up On Empire
The main architect of Washington’s plan to rule the world has abandoned the scheme and called for the forging of ties with Russia and China. While Zbigniew Brzezinski’s article in The American Interest titled “Towards a Global Realignment” has largely been ignored by the media, it shows that powerful members of the policymaking establishment no longer believe that Washington will prevail in its quest to extent US hegemony across the Middle East and Asia. Brzezinski, who was the main proponent of this idea and who drew up the blueprint for imperial expansion in his 1997 book The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives, has done an about-face and called for a dramatic revising of the strategy. Here’s an excerpt from the article in the AI:
“As its era of global dominance ends, the United States needs to take the lead in realigning the global power architecture.
Five basic verities regarding the emerging redistribution of global political power and the violent political awakening in the Middle East are signaling the coming of a new global realignment.
The first of these verities is that the United States is still the world’s politically, economically, and militarily most powerful entity but, given complex geopolitical shifts in regional balances, it is no longer the globally imperial power.”
(Toward a Global Realignment, Zbigniew Brzezinski, The American Interest)
Repeat: The US is “no longer the globally imperial power.” Compare this assessment to a statement Brzezinski made years earlier in Chessboard when he claimed the US was ” the world’s paramount power.”
“…The last decade of the twentieth century has witnessed a tectonic shift in world affairs. For the first time ever, a non-Eurasian power has emerged not only as a key arbiter of Eurasian power relations but also as the world’s paramount power. The defeat and collapse of the Soviet Union was the final step in the rapid ascendance of a Western Hemisphere power, the United States, as the sole and, indeed, the first truly global power.” (“The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy And Its Geostrategic Imperatives,” Zbigniew Brzezinski, Basic Books, 1997, p. xiii)
Here’s more from the article in the AI:
“The fact is that there has never been a truly “dominant” global power until the emergence of America on the world scene….. The decisive new global reality was the appearance on the world scene of America as simultaneously the richest and militarily the most powerful player. During the latter part of the 20th century no other power even came close. That era is now ending.” (AI)
But why is “that era is now ending”? What’s changed since 1997 when Brzezinski referred to the US as the “world’s paramount power”?
Brzezinski points to the rise of Russia and China, the weakness of Europe and the “violent political awakening among post-colonial Muslims” as the proximate causes of this sudden reversal. His comments on Islam are particularly instructive in that he provides a rational explanation for terrorism rather than the typical government boilerplate about “hating our freedoms.” To his credit, Brzezinski sees the outbreak of terror as the “welling up of historical grievances” (from “deeply felt sense of injustice”) not as the mindless violence of fanatical psychopaths.
Naturally, in a short 1,500-word article, Brzezniski can’t cover all the challenges (or threats) the US might face in the future. But it’s clear that what he’s most worried about is the strengthening of economic, political and military ties between Russia, China, Iran, Turkey and the other Central Asian states. This is his main area of concern, in fact, he even anticipated this problem in 1997 when he wrote Chessboard. Here’s what he said:
“Henceforth, the United States may have to determine how to cope with regional coalitions that seek to push America out of Eurasia, thereby threatening America’s status as a global power.” (p.55)
“…To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together.” (p.40)
“…prevent collusion…among the vassals.” That says it all, doesn’t it?
The Obama administration’s reckless foreign policy, particularly the toppling of governments in Libya and Ukraine, has greatly accelerated the rate at which these anti-American coalitions have formed. In other words, Washington’s enemies have emerged in response to Washington’s behavior. Obama can only blame himself.
Russian Federation President Vladimir Putin has responded to the growing threat of regional instability and the placing of NATO forces on Russia’s borders by strengthening alliances with countries on Russia’s perimeter and across the Middle East. At the same time, Putin and his colleagues in the BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa) countries have established an alternate banking system (BRICS Bank and AIIB) that will eventually challenge the dollar-dominated system that is the source of US global power. This is why Brzezinski has done a quick 180 and abandoned the plan for US hegemony; it is because he is concerned about the dangers of a non-dollar-based system arising among the developing and unaligned countries that would replace the western Central Bank oligopoly. If that happens, then the US will lose its stranglehold on the global economy and the extortionist system whereby fishwrap greenbacks are exchanged for valuable goods and services will come to an end.
Unfortunately, Brzezinski’s more cautious approach is not likely to be followed by presidential-favorite Hillary Clinton who is a firm believer in imperial expansion through force of arms. It was Clinton who first introduced “pivot” to the strategic lexicon in a speech she gave in 2010 titled “America’s Pacific Century”. Here’s an excerpt from the speech that appeared in Foreign Policy magazine:
“As the war in Iraq winds down and America begins to withdraw its forces from Afghanistan, the United States stands at a pivot point. Over the last 10 years, we have allocated immense resources to those two theaters. In the next 10 years, we need to be smart and systematic about where we invest time and energy, so that we put ourselves in the best position to sustain our leadership, secure our interests, and advance our values. One of the most important tasks of American statecraft over the next decade will therefore be to lock in a substantially increased investment — diplomatic, economic, strategic, and otherwise — in the Asia-Pacific region…
Harnessing Asia’s growth and dynamism is central to American economic and strategic interests and a key priority for President Obama. Open markets in Asia provide the United States with unprecedented opportunities for investment, trade, and access to cutting-edge technology…..American firms (need) to tap into the vast and growing consumer base of Asia…
The region already generates more than half of global output and nearly half of global trade. As we strive to meet President Obama’s goal of doubling exports by 2015, we are looking for opportunities to do even more business in Asia…and our investment opportunities in Asia’s dynamic markets.”
(“America’s Pacific Century”, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton”, Foreign Policy Magazine, 2011)
Compare Clinton’s speech to comments Brzezinski made in Chessboard 14 years earlier:
“For America, the chief geopolitical prize is Eurasia… (p.30)….. Eurasia is the globe’s largest continent and is geopolitically axial. A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the world’s three most advanced and economically productive regions. ….About 75 per cent of the world’s people live in Eurasia, and most of the world’s physical wealth is there as well, both in its enterprises and underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for 60 per cent of the world’s GNP and about three-fourths of the world’s known energy resources.” (p.31)
The strategic objectives are identical, the only difference is that Brzezinski has made a course correction based on changing circumstances and the growing resistance to US bullying, domination and sanctions. We have not yet reached the tipping point for US primacy, but that day is fast approaching and Brzezinski knows it.
In contrast, Clinton is still fully-committed to expanding US hegemony across Asia. She doesn’t understand the risks this poses for the country or the world. She’s going to persist with the interventions until the US war-making juggernaut is stopped dead-in-its-tracks which, judging by her hyperbolic rhetoric, will probably happen some time in her first term.
Brzezinski presents a rational but self-serving plan to climb-down, minimize future conflicts, avoid a nuclear conflagration and preserve the global order. (aka–The “dollar system”) But will bloodthirsty Hillary follow his advice?
109 Comments on "The Broken Chessboard: Brzezinski Gives Up On Empire"
Plantagenet on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 12:03 pm
Hillary is unlikely to follow this advice. She voted for the Iraq War, she played a big role in starting the wars in Libya and Syria, and if Julian Assange is right, Hillary sent US weapons to jihadis, including ISIS.
Hillary will be the last gasp of the DC power elite.
Cheers!
rockman on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 12:42 pm
Next thing you know Zbigniew may offer his own version of the Rockman’s “MADOR” dynamic (Mutually Assured Distribution Of Resources). Just like the MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) dynamic of the Cold War.
In both dynamics there would be no winner in a direct conflict between the Big Boys. Thus with MAD military conflicts were waged by surrogates in non-nuclear fashion. With MADOR the Big Boys will establish dominance over hydrocarbon resources using whatever leverage they possess.
And the resource losers? All those economies that will lose access to the resources the Big Boys eventually share amongst themselves. Oddly enough some of the most effective US “soldiers” in the battle have been Canadian native tribes and other environmental activists. By hindering the transport of oil sands production to coastal ports they’ve so far eliminated China as a competitor with US refiners. To a degree they are helping to maintain Canada as the 51st US state. And as long as Albertans are desperate for the oil revenue the US will have a lock on that production. LOL.
bug on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 12:48 pm
Plant, after H. Clinton leaves, who will take over? The old elites or new elites or some other elite group?
Please don’t tell me ” it will be the people “.
joe on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 3:45 pm
There wont be much world left to control when cities are underwater, the arctic open all year round for Sino-Russian-Euro energy trading. America with its tight oil will be left on the outside looking in. NATO is having its day, and we should be looking for an alternative which actually works. If NATO is our only hope, then Russia is left with no alternative than to have ww3 with this undemocratic super-army. When CC really hits home, Turkey and the middle east will be left to rot when arctic ports become viable.
Cloggie on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 4:11 pm
Checkmate.
Finally, the truth has been acknowledged by one of the best minds of the US empire. Brezinsky recognizes a train wreck when he sees one.
It remains to be seen if the neocohn fanatics will listen to this sane advise, don’t hold your breath though. Clinton knows on which side her bread is buttered: CFR, Wallstreet/Rothschildt, not the thoughtful Pole Brezinski.
But this is nevertheless good news and Trump has received new ammo which he can and will use to drive a wedge in the Dems establishment.
The NWO got yet another big kick in the ass. The wine will taste good in the Kremlin.
Anonymous on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 4:21 pm
Brzezinski hates Russia far too much to ‘abandon’ amerikas global empire to a multi-polar world with Russia as a major participant.
He will only abandon his goal of helping provoke a major showdown\conflict with Russia and China, when hes safely dead and buried, not before. This is just PR, a tactical move, nothing more. A few reassuring words to make him and his backers appear more accommodating than they actually are. The article points out this ‘move’ of his, is self-serving but won’t go quite so far as to point it is little more than a ruse, posturing.
Him and his fellow zionists are not in the business of admitting defeat, or accommodation with any non-amerikan power not fully under their control.
Plantagenet on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 4:27 pm
@bug
Its a bit early to predict who will take over after Hilalry, Perhaps Corey Booker or Bob Menendez, or maybe even Michelle Obama if the DNC decides to back her.
Cheers!
shortonoil on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 5:01 pm
It would seem that Brzezinski is aware of the critical state that the petroleum industry has entered. He is probably also aware that the Middle East is likely to soon be coming apart. There is only one place remaining that the US, and its European allies can possibly rely upon to supply the life blood of their civilizations.
The Russians won the first hand when the US pulled its nuclear weapons out of Turkey. The next hand will be for the reduction of weapons in Eastern Europe. The end of the oil age will see the association of some strange bed fellows. If not, it will perish in one huge mushroom cloud.
peakyeast on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 5:02 pm
Yeah USA probably missed its chance to clean up the world of unwanted competition for the future use of resources…
Now its probably going to be really really bad since there will be real resistance.
makati1 on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 6:03 pm
Bug and Plant, who says there will be a US to takeover in 4 years? It may just be a bombed out shell. Or deep in a civil war. Or even if there will be an election in November this year. I would not bet on any of the possibilities as they all seem to have an equal chance at coming true.
sunweb on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 6:06 pm
testing,
bug on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 6:26 pm
Plant, are not Corey and Bob and Michelle elites? So elites will continue?
They always do.
Mak, in 4 years we will be in the same rut, not much will change. I believe things will change but it has to get way worse. I’ll post something to you in 2020/21 or so. Or we can send smokesignals if all goes to crap like you say.
Truth Has A Liberal Bias on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 6:34 pm
Something tells me Russia and China won’t be interested in forging ties with America. Why would they? Do they look like charities? They will however be interested in forging ties with Turkey, Germany, Iran, India and much of South America. America’s ass is gonna be hanging from a tree and the one thing the world shares in common is a desire to kick it. Russia and Iran defied American foreign policy in Syria. Russian fighters now take mock attack runs at US naval vessels in the Baltic Sea. Iran does the same with fast attack boats in the Straits of Hormuz. There are no consequences for doing this because America can do nothing about it. America is going down and nobody is gonna play nice and cut it any slack. The world will laugh and import your women as mail order brides lol
ghung on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 6:37 pm
“To his credit, Brzezinski sees the outbreak of terror as the “welling up of historical grievances” (from “deeply felt sense of injustice”) not as the mindless violence of fanatical psychopaths.”
Any thinking person of reasonable intelligence would arrive at the same conclusion. Of course, the racists and nationalists among us may disagree.
Survivalist on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 6:49 pm
America is not likely to manage the contraction of its economic empire very well. Granted in 2010 Clinton wanted to pivot to Asia but that did not happen. The USA remained mired in Middle East and North Africa. It seems to me that US special forces, 200 of them I hear, are embedded with Kurdish forces who are getting their ass kicked by Turkey (a NATO member). In Syria we have CIA sponsored rebels fighting Pentagon sponsored rebels and US forces running from attacks by a NATO member. There are some very untalented people running things. But so what? Raytheon doesn’t care if America loses, it’s good for profits.To suggest that USA will climb down from the high horse, seek peace and give up power is delusional. What’s more likely is that they’ll double down and lose.
makati1 on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 6:58 pm
bug, four years is a very long time today. I do not see BAU in any form by then. You can deny or dream all you want, but we have reached the hockey stick part of the graph that says reality is catching up with the Us and that is not good for Americans. The match is near he fuse and all it will take is one surprise to ignite the powder.
WW1 started with two bullets. ~30 days later WW1 began.
WW2 started with the demand that Germany pay all of it’s WW1 debts to America immediately. It took a few years but…
Two events that began a world war. What will start the next one? It could happen tomorrow or even today. The US wants war. It needs a big one and is trying desperately to get one going.
I hope we have 4 more years, but I doubt it.
See the comment by Truth that follows yours. The US has ~330 million dazed sheeple. The world has the other 7 Billion awakening humans who all either hate Americans or are beginning to.
bug on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 7:47 pm
Mak, please read my post and other posts.
I do not dream or deny at all. I know this thing will collapse and will be happy when it does. My feeling are that it will go on longer, that’s all.
And war you mention, did it all end with WW1 and 2? No. Yes thermonuclear world war 3 may happen, but again, who knows.
JuanP on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 7:51 pm
Rockman “And the resource losers? All those economies that will lose access to the resources the Big Boys eventually share amongst themselves.”
Yes, I agree, and my country, Uruguay, will be one of the first to lose access to oil imports, IMO. The only thing that we have going for us is that we export food and may barter oil for food, but we can only do that if the big guys let us. We are very small and very far from future oil exporters.
JuanP on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 7:55 pm
Bug, I am not certain that the USA has four or eight years left as a functioning democracy. I, personally, hope it does because I want to stay here as long as possible, but this rat is ready to leave this sinking ship on very short notice. I think the next US president will preside over the economic collapse of the American economy and its political system, too, but I hope I am wrong.
JuanP on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 7:58 pm
Peaky “Yeah USA probably missed its chance to clean up the world of unwanted competition for the future use of resources…”
Yeah, they should have done it in the early nineties; now it is too late, IMO.
JuanP on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 7:59 pm
I find Brzezinski repugnant. I will be very happy when I read that he has died. The world will be a better place without this cockroach.
JuanP on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 8:04 pm
Survivalist “America is not likely to manage the contraction of its economic empire very well.”
I would say that the USA is already horribly managing the contraction of its economic empire. The USA needs to become isolationist and focus on its domestic problems instead of spending most of its budget in trying to conquer a world that deeply hates it. Fixing our bridges makes more sense than building unsustainable armies.
makati1 on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 8:05 pm
bug, yes, who knows, but all current pointers suggest total breakdown in the US and the advent of a shooting war that will probably end in mushroom clouds over American cities, as well as many others in the not too distant future. I think the best chance of that happening in the next four to eight years is a Hillary presidency. She wants war.
I am not in the US and do not plan to be, so it is not my problem. Perhaps that is why I can look at current events with a less prejudiced eye? It is yours and your 320+ million fellow American’s problem. I do not envy you, nor want to be in your shoes. Good luck.
JuanP on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 8:19 pm
If Americans elect the narcissistic, psychopathic bitch as their next president they will be guaranteeing their nation’s self destruction. That monster is insane and will be the ruin of the USA. Anyone but Hillary! Go Trump!
makati1 on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 8:21 pm
Survivalist, Suggested reading from today’s headlines.
“Welcome To The Third World, Part 18: Pensions Overwhelm Public Services”
“Wrapping Up Jackson Hole: What Did We Learn?”
“Harvard Professor Creates Blueprint for Ending Cash in US; Calls for Immediate Phasing Out of $20 Bills”
“Southwest Airlines plane makes emergency landing in Florida after engine breaks apart midflight”
“Two United Airlines pilots arrested at Glasgow Airport on suspicion of being too drunk to fly to America”
“The High Cost of American Hubris”
“FDA expands Zika screening to all US blood centers”
“USDA: Bird flu strain that hit U.S. last year found in wild duck”
“Judge orders search of new Clinton emails for release by September 13”
“The Dumbed-Down New York Times”
“How I Was Blacklisted at CNN, and How Easily America Goes to War Now”
“Happy 100th Birthday, National Parks! Sorry You’re Falling Apart.”
“225+ heroin overdoses in 4 counties in 4 states in 1 week”
“August U.S. auto sales seen down 5.2 percent; 2015 was peak: forecasters”
“Past deadline, feds see no end in sight for veteran homeless crisis”
” Stunning Maps Depict Collapse Of Obamacare “Coverage” In 2017″
“Things Are Worse” – Dollar Stores’ Startling Admission: Half Of US Consumers Are In Dire Straits”
“The focus on 401ks has destroyed the retirement for millions of Americans over the last generation”
“Democratic Pundits Downplay Serious Ethical Issues Raised by the Clinton Foundation”
All can be read today at http://ricefarmer.blogspot.fr/
The list of negative “signs of the times” could go on an on, but the end is fast approaching.
Anonymous on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 9:16 pm
Juan, I hope you dont mind me saying, but its not so much shillary you have to worry about, the but zionist oligarchs pulling her strings. You know, the exact same group that has been pulling obombers, and bush (the dumbers), and the other clinton, and reagans and…you get the idea. He own innate stupidity, lack of education, and he own twisted sense of entitlement and barely repressed aggressiveness, will just make it easier for her backers to direct her to whatever course of action they desire.
This is why the amero-zionist oligarchs are lining up behind her with tanker-loads of cash and logistical support to get her elected. Trump is too mercurial and independent minded, and could go off-script at any moment. With Shillary, there is absolutely no danger of that. There is 0% chance she would defy their wishes or try to use the power of the state in a manner not consistent with their wishes, whatever those happen to be.
Boat on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 9:47 pm
What happened to the Zionist oligarchs pulling the strings of the entire world? Did I miss a regime change?
makati1 on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 10:21 pm
Anon, her strings are so warped that they do not need to pull them. But, yes, they are still there, but not for long.
Apneaman on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 10:50 pm
Anonymous, get fucking real. Trump’s daughter is one of those rich zionists by marriage and he’s proud of it. Independant? Holy fuck are we ever getting desperate to believe in some fantasy bullshit.
Here are 7 damning revelations about Jared Kushner — Donald Trump’s son-in-law
“A member of Donald Trump’s inner circle by virtue of being his daughter’s husband, Jared Kushner, the wealthy son of a New Jersey real state mogul, has managed to fly somewhat under the radar until recently. But last week, both the New Yorker and Esquire magazine published not terribly flattering profiles of the so-called golden boy, who is reported to be a major influence and key decision maker in the Trump inner circle.
Here are seven of the most damning revelations about Ivanka’s hubby.
1. Jared is a really good compartmentalizer. It runs in the family.
In August 2004, Jared’s father, Charles Kushner, head of a multi-hundred-million-dollar real estate empire in New Jersey, pleaded guilty to 18 felony counts of tax fraud, election violations and witness tampering.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/here-are-7-damning-revelations-about-jared-kushner-donald-trumps-son-in-law/
Apparently Trump luvs his super rich, super corrupt oligarch jews as much as Hillary.
Guess y’all need a new hero eh? Your Trump fantasy is just that – a fucking fantasy. Y’all fucked no matter what or who. No difference. Not one bit.
DMyers on Sun, 28th Aug 2016 11:53 pm
Right. Next thing you know, we’ll hear Henry Kissinger saying the New World Order was nothing more than an entry on his credit card for a purchase from QVC.
rockman on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 12:35 am
Juan – “Yes, I agree, and my country, Uruguay, will be one of the first to lose access to oil imports, IMO.” Perhaps your country should start building islands in the S China Sea…or the Gulf of Mexico. LOL.
But seriously I doubt many here will be around when the phrase “US ally” disappears from the lips of every nation that doesn’t export oil. We might have helped our British allies fight the Germans long ago but sharing our oil and NG when supplies get stretched is a very different matter.
Anonymous on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 1:07 am
I never suggested Trump was somehow inoculated or immune to the lobby Ape. I merely pointed out that trump is far too impulsive and unpredictable for the deep state to tolerate. Of late, amerikas real rulers have zero tolerance for anyone not ‘with-the-program'(aka PNAC). They see uS presidents as unquestioning employees, servants if you will-not leaders. Shillary is ok with that and gets it, but ‘the donald’, doesn’t get that part. Like a lot of people, he still thinks the ‘prez’ is the final(and actual) authority in the rogue uS empire. I was merely contrasting him with the zio-puppet clinton, who never goes off-script, even a little. With trump, the danger(to the oligarchs), is that he is far too unpredictable and impulsive for their liking.
I hardly buy into the notion of trump-as-savior-of-amerika, or that he is for the ‘amerikan people’,(however defined) and not wall st.’ Quite the opposite, both of them are walking train-wrecks in their own way, and could likely lead their empire to ruin, not ‘greatness’. I wish either of them well in their efforts to accelerate amerikas downfall through their epic incompetence, greed and bad judgement.
Cloggie on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 4:15 am
Makati says: “Bug and Plant, who says there will be a US to takeover in 4 years? It may just be a bombed out shell. Or deep in a civil war. Or even if there will be an election in November this year. I would not bet on any of the possibilities as they all seem to have an equal chance at coming true.”
Exactly right. Over the last hundred years the US has set itself on a path of global conquest and exceptionalism, on behalf of those who can’t be named. Once the US establishment will throw the towel in the ring, expect vast consequences for the US itself.
When that other entity with global ambitions, I mean the USSR, came to an unceremonial end, it promptly fell apart in no less than 15 pieces. There was some lame attempt to replace the USSR with CIS, but not much was heard of that construct ever since.
I don’t expect the US to fall apart in 15 pieces, not that many. More like 3 or 4. The largest one will be heartland USA, the home of a new great European people next to the Germans, French and Russians: the Amerikaner…
http://therightstuff.biz/2016/06/16/behold-i-teach-you-the-amerikaner/
… with as a president an Alex Jones type, the Confederate flag as uniting symbol, nascar races, banjo’s, Harley Davidson’s, apple pie, cowbows, former GOP voeters and in-your-face-white, sneeringly but not inaccurately described by our kosher peakoil guru James Howard Kunstler as “where Dolly Parton meets Hitler”.
The entire east coast will be an NWO leftover theme park, populated by mixed race Dems-voters, a new Brasil or new Africa, depending on who you ask, led by Jews. I wouldn’t be surprised if in the end Israel will be completely moved to Upstate New York, after they recognized that in 1948 they choose the worst possible environment to set up shop in the midst of Sharia country. The Jews should have listened to Hitler when he proposed Madagaskar in the thirties: nice climate, breathtaking beaches, green Indian Ocean water, no Muslims. What’s not to like.
The entire South-West will return to Mexico and the situation of before 1820 restored. Bye-bye Manifest Destiny.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny
Perhaps in the upper North-West there will be a small Asian stronghold around capital Hongcouver.
Expect Canada to fall apart as well in a French and Anglo part.
When America will be no longer around to defend Australia and New Zealand, expect these territories to become Chinese “protectorates”.
Anglosphere buried like the Roman empire. Two centuries of Anglo dominance, first the British empire than the US empire.
Expect the Europeans to dry their tears over this immense loss embarassing quickly and immediately make overtures to the Russians, who will need less than a microsecond to say yes and abandon the SCO ad hoc alliance, meaning a partner with a far larger economy and 8 times as many people.
The Chinese won’t mind, they always knew they were Russia’s Plan B:
http://russia-insider.com/en/china-fears-it-merely-russias-plan-b/ri15401
All the Anglo-centric institutions like UN, IMF, WB, etc are going to be abolished and replaced by new Eurasian clubs, likely located in Astana-Kazakhstan, the new geographical center of gravity between the two new super powers China and Paris-Berlin-Moscow (700m) + heartland USA (100m), or the North for short.
The round table follow-up of the UN will no longer be populated by the victors of WW2, but instead by representatives of the world’s Great Ciilizations such as there are Christian-Roman (the great white North), the Confucians of China, India, Islam, Atzlan, Christian Latin-America, sub-Saharan Africa, Japan.
The vision of Samuel Huntington realized.
Cloggie on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 4:47 am
Apneaman says: “Trump’s daughter is one of those rich zionists by marriage and he’s proud of it. Independant? Holy fuck are we ever getting desperate to believe in some fantasy bullshit.”
Do you have any proof that Trump handpicked his son-in-law himself for his daughter?
Or was Trump merely putting up a brave face when his daughter presented her father with a fait accompli while thinking wtf, like most white fathers do when their Shirley comes home with Leroy or, in the case of rich fathers, with Schmul?
The real significance of the recent change in the US political landscape is not so much Trump himself, but the fact that European America picked him. They crossed the Rubicon. Yes, the US deep state can attempt to sabotage Trump, but what they can’t do is chase the white herd back into the pc corral. They had a taste of their freedom and they want more. And if they see that Trump is sabotaged, they will begin to think of a plan B: secession.
Hello on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 5:37 am
Clog:
Not likely. Nov will come and go. And America will go back to what it’s always has done. Importing 3rd world wholesale. Same as Europe. Slowly disappearing. Demographic pressure from 3rd world always wins in the long run.
This will continue till quality of life is equalized. Then it will stop. Not before.
Adding the fact that every white child in EU and USA gets brain washed early on to be ashamed of his culture and heritage, whereas every 3rd world cretin gets educated to embrace his history, doesn’t help either.
I’m afraid to say, your Great White North is gone. (And SW USA will certainly not go back to Mexico, but who knows, maybe mexico will join them?)
Cloggie on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 5:41 am
“But seriously I doubt many here will be around when the phrase “US ally” disappears from the lips of every nation that doesn’t export oil. We might have helped our British allies fight the Germans long ago but sharing our oil and NG when supplies get stretched is a very different matter.”
The last thing you would want to be in 21st century is a Brit. England will be a totally isolated island in front of the Eurasian coast, a sort of rainy Cuba. Their recent Brexit vote was an emotioal vote, made by ordinary people, who saw their country changing beyond recognition and prefered to blame Europe for that, rather than the real culprit, their own globalist British establishment. But the real disaster for the English will come when the WW2 archives will finally open up, most likely the Russian archives. Russia will want to enter Europe with a clean slate and get rid of the Nuremberg lies, like the German war guilt or the heinous attrocities atributed to them, just because the Allies needed a story to justify their new colonial gains:
https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/redcross-how_many_died_in_nazi_germany_concentration_camps.jpg
Putin already made a beginning with his revisionism when he thought he could do business with the Germans in the wake of the French-German-Russian refusal to join the Americans in Iraq-2003:
https://youtu.be/7bSAB5OPkwQ
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/5445161/Russia-accuses-Poland-of-starting-Second-World-War.html
But the Nuland Euro-Maidan intervention sabotaged that process temporarily.
But the takeaway point is that Putin already ahowed his willingness to spill the beans of the 20th century and replace self-serving allied baloney like rockman’s idea that the US “helped” the British against Germany, where in reality:
WW1: US war entry was the result of the Balfour deal between the US Israel Lobby and the British government: the Jews bring their American serfs in the war next to Britain if the Jews get Israel from the British government.
WW2: the US were meanwhile so strong that their Israel Lobby could plot for global dominance at the cost of the Europeans. The Americans didn’t “help” the British against the Germans, but instead forced the British into war with the Germans in order to join the war later and add western Europe to the US global empire:
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/2141aee9270ba15befc04a49ffe2c656.jpg
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_weber.html
As early as 1934 Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin were already in bed in their aim to destroy Europe and divide the loot between them.
Download for instance the book written by the Jewish Soviet ambassador Maisky “Who helped Hitler”:
https://archive.org/details/WhoHelpedHitler
Somewhere around, I believe, page 53, below, you will see that as early as 1934 Churchill proposes an alliance between Britain and the USSR to destroy Germany.
At the same time American and British Jews had Churchill selected to become the next PM of Britain with the sole aim to bring Britain into war with Germany on behalf of international Jewry.
Chamberlain refused during the entire time when he was PM to meet Roosevelt, because Chamberlain knew perfectly well what Roosevelt was up to: use Britain to get the war started in Europe, a war desired by Roosevelt and Stalin to get the Anglo-Soviet century started.
The other link, Churchill-Roosevelt:
https://youtu.be/Q_nSF4fQk2c
https://youtu.be/6W_dTL8W62Q
The Marxist BBC traced down Tyler Kent, the 1939 version of the present day Edward Snowdon whistle blower. Unfortunately Kent failed and was locked up.
In 1939 messages between Churchill and Roosevelt (illegally behind the back of still PM Chamberlain) went through the US embassy in London, at the time run by embassador Joseph Kennedy, who had a clark Tyler Kent. Kent noticed that Churchill and Roosevelt were plotting for war against Germany and Kent wanted to warn Congress, in 1939 not yet “Israeli occupied territory” (P. Buchanan).
The story of Tyler Kent as told by Kent himself:
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p173_kent.html
After the war, Joseph Kennedy tried to use his son JFK to defeat the Lobby. Instead the Lobby killed JFK.
Now we have come full circle. The American deep state begins to realize that there isn’t going to be a Washington run planet. Brezinski now openly says so, many will follow. Even Kissinger has uttered words of caution, although he doesn’t go as far as Brezinski.
But rather than step down voluntarily, there will still be sufficient enough “globalists” willing to give it a try anyway in their hope to realize the Talmudist dream.
Kenz300 on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 6:17 am
The top 1% want it all….. and the RepubliCON party will give it to them………..
What do RepubliCONS believe…….. depends who is paying….. follow the money……. fossil fuels….. oil, coal, natural gas…, nuclear, NRA………the top 1%
Are RepubliCONS the real EVIL DOERS………..they want to end Social Security, Medicare and access to contraception…….
RepubliCONS are the reason the middle class is shrinking…… The RepubliCON elite want cheap labor…………They are no friend of the middle class
sidzepp on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 6:35 am
It is amusing to watch the speculations on the direction the world is heading as the existing world order begins to crumble and us spectators sit on the sideline as seers attempting to foresee a world with a new world order.
The wild card in the predictions is the fact that depletions of resources combined with out of control population are faced with serious, if not catastrophic, climate scenarios make most of these predictions illusions. Countries will be scrambling for resources to sustain their unsustainable economies. Wars will be fought over food and water, and immense amounts of refuges will collapse the various societies that continue to welcome them within their borders.
As long as the mantra of all nations is continual economic growth there will only be a bleak future for most of humanity. The first world will want to maintain their position, the second world will do all in their power to continue to grab more and more wealth, and the third world will continue to raped by the first and second world as they continue their insatiable quest for more resources to continue on the path of unsustainable economic growth.
Old coalitions will fall apart and new ones will rise out of economic necessity.
Davy on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 6:39 am
So much disconnections on this board with political intrigue. Sure it is interesting and even this American election is darkly fascinating this time around. For all the American hate there is sure allot of interest in America. What we see here in the above ramblings is the usual disconnection of the status quo. There is acknowledgment of a collapse process and the likely unwind of an interconnected world but then there is the actual embedded connection with the status quo. This is understandable because we have not yet left the status quo so talk of that departure is not grounded in a current reality.
This current reality is surreal and multilevel because we are in the status quo but it is also in a collapse process. We are definitely a new normal. The old socio-political order is not valid anymore. The economic reality is a new normal of repression and easing coupled with connected central bank actions. These connected actions are not by choice. Central banks are acting together because they have no choice. They are force into it because we have a single global interconnect economic system most fully realized at the financial level. Finance is as simple and complex as confidence and trust in trade and exchange. Politically we have the US Empire dissolving but still there. It is not going to dissolve completely because the current arrangement will not allow it to totally dissolve. The global system does not like vacuums.
The global system is brittle to change any major change at any level will signal collapse of the whole system. We are into a new age of brittle connections economic, social, and political. We still have the traditional rivalries and the games but these are limited to proxy wars and soft political and economic wars. There is no place for a world war nor global trade wars and still have a functioning global system. Without a functioning global system there will be an immediate and dramatic human die off across the board. No place will be spared. Those place most interconnect and or with the greatest overshoot of population will be the ugliest. This is a condition across the global world. Every continent has it. All the important economic and political centers on every continent are set to implode because they all are tightly connected to the global system. They have large populations and they require huge amounts of consumption to support high standards of living and economic activity.
We have people on this board that are living in the 20th century like 20th century politics and economics is all that matters. It does matter but in a new reality making the old reality null and void. It still matters because it will shape decisions good or bad that will impact how we face collapse. They don’t matter in the traditional talk of the major powers with their games and alliances. All this talk about America breaking up without a mention of Russia, China, and Europe likewise fracturing is absurd. Once a major power fracture all will fracture. The reason for this is globalism will end and with the end of globalism there will be a dramatic fall in the ability of people to organize at national levels. It just will not be possible. We will be discarding modern transport, communication, and energy systems at the level needed to run big nations. We are going regional by force of nature.
This political talk on current events is exciting. It allows anti-Americanism a strong voice. Voices of war and new alliances can be heard by eager sheeples. The reality is all that talk will quickly dissolve into nothing once the global system unravels. Trump or Hillary are irrelevant at this point in the new reality of a future America along 20th century lines. The direction is decay and destruction which they will influence but not change. Europe will fracture into a hundred pieces of a messy mix of peoples and a prime destination for a multitude of migrations. Asia is set to be a huge die off of countries that are grotesquely overpopulated and ecologically destroyed lands. The place which will likely fare the best is Russia but not the Russia as we know it. The Asian portion of Russia will be colonized by desperate Asians in unstoppable migrations. Russians will become a small minority there and the European Russian center of power will not reach out that far. The entire global will be a toxic soup with destabilized climate. It may be a nuclear winter with most location devoid of life. So you see I can also project my fantasy too. It is allot of fun but of course not what you want to hear.
onlooker on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 6:54 am
This whole American election is just a freakish side show irrelevant to anything really important going on in the US or world
sidzepp on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 7:13 am
Davy; perhaps us Americans should be a little introspective and listen to what the rest of the world is saying about us. We tend to be self-righteous in our view of ourselves thinking that we are the way the world should be without taking the time to learn about the rest of the world.
Our carbon based economy is only sustainable by the importation of vast resources from the rest of the world. We live in houses that are too large, we drive vehicles that are too big, and our only desire is to continue to move up to larger houses and bigger cars. Take away the resources we import and our standard of living and our lifestyles would change dramatically.
The quest for these resources and to guarantee the continual flow into our ports has created a foreign policy that is imperialistic. We back any regime in the world that will suit our purposes. The Shah, Batista, Somoza, and a list that could go on for days. We care less how repressive their governments might be as long as the oil or the bananas keep coming.
Carl Schurz, Civil War General, German radical, and politician said “My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.” Perhaps, maybe if we worked with the world to solve our mutual problems we might be able to solve some of them.
derhundistlos on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 7:14 am
The Asian portion of Russia is already falling prey. Criminal gangs are leveling Russia’s Eastern forests to supply the Chinese wood flooring and furniture industries. Further, in that more than 1/2 of China’s water resources are polluted beyond the point of recovery, Russia’s water will be next on the menu.
Boat on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 7:49 am
Davy,
” There is acknowledgment of a collapse process”
What you have is an opinion. I have one also. I see no collapse within 10 years. That means continued investment, putting my money where my mouth is.
makati1 on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 7:55 am
Go for it Boat! And buy a gun for that final moment when you learn just how wrong you were.
onlooker on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 8:01 am
Boat they’re is a difference between opinions and informed opinions. While the time line may exceed or not 10 years clearly we are approaching some dire times and all signs point that out. That is the researched logical informed opinion. Any other opinion is irrational or uninformed.
joe on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 8:31 am
Yup, international jewry, mindless sheeple, hey conspiricy nuts, wheres the bankers? Isnt the FED some kinda jew thing as well? Well I guess Hitler is off the hook, it was the jews fault. Ill go fix my history book. Thanks peakoil.com
Cloggie on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 8:50 am
“Not likely. Nov will come and go. And America will go back to what it’s always has done. Importing 3rd world wholesale. Same as Europe. Slowly disappearing. Demographic pressure from 3rd world always wins in the long run.
This will continue till quality of life is equalized. Then it will stop. Not before.”
I don’t think so. Yes, migration is a fact of life, but so is secession and/or ethnic cleansing. Take the European Jews, the vast majority were deported from western Europe and didn’t return, after they had migrated from the Stetls of the Ukraine to the West decades earlier, that’s an undisputed fact. The stated reason was the accusation that they were behind communism, the biggest disaster in the history of mankind.
Now we have an influx of very archaic Muslims, we Europeans get to know better with every passing day. These people despise us infidels and are waiting for the moment they can take us over. Consequence? If trains can travel to the East, they can travel to the South-East as well, to Thracia. It’s called the Orient-Express.
Pax Americana meant a long vacation from Darwinian reality (Fukujama: “The End of History”), but Pax Americana is melting away as we speak, to the tune that now even Brezinski is abandoning his Eurasian chessboard. There is a power vacuum looming, comparable to the one the Europeans left when they were retreating from their colonies after WW2.
History is back and history usually means war.
Cloggie on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 8:51 am
The site works wonderful smooth.
Cloggie on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 8:59 am
@joe – history is written by the victors and can only then be revised if the victors have passed their expiration date. We are rapidly approaching the date that Schindler’s List will no longer pass as reflecting accurate history.
As I said, you don’t want to be a Brit in the 21st century.
Cloggie on Mon, 29th Aug 2016 9:29 am
About “collapse”
In 1972 the Report of the Club of Rome was released and it made a deep impact world wide and also in my country Holland. Eventually it would determine the choice of my engineering study: renewable energy.
So I was an early adopter of the idea that the old industrial society of eternal growth at some point would come to an end. I still hold that view and from 2007 until 2013 I thought that peak oil was immanent.
I no longer hold that view and I observe that several posters here, many of whom I know for almost five years, have dug themselves such a deep hole in their collapse-centered worldview, that there is no way back for them. “Collapse” is going to happen, one way or the other, without defining “collapse” in too much detail.
Most have meanwhile quietly abandoned the idea that we are running out of fossil fuel on a very short time frame. I for myself as a working hypothesis assume peakoil 2030, but with a very high degree of uncertainty and I am not certain if peak oil (conventional + fracking) will be all that relevant as there are alternatives. Perhaps not enough to continue BAU, but enough to prevent total collapse.
In order to get the collapse meme going, new “hope” is drawn from global warming, recently turned into the very abstract “climate change”. Talk is of 2-3 cm sea level rise, melting polar ice caps, Louisiana flooding, Californian drought, etc. And these phenomena are all attributed to antropomorphic influences.
Perhaps.
But if you begin to think about it… 13000 years ago, when there was absolutely no industrial society, we had the end of an ice age, with sea levels up to 100 m below what we have now. In other words: Mother Nature doesn’t need us to organise some major heavy duty, industrial strength climate change.
Yesterday I came across and article that said that the Harrappa civilization wasn’t destroyed after all by vicious invading Aryans, but by an enormous drought. Again, caused by “Mother Nature”.
To sum it up, I have become skeptical of this incessant sectarian collapse talk. No longer do I expect that within 10-15 years any of use are going to experience any Mother Nature induced collapse.
Nevertheless, some major desasters are very well possible, the nature of which is to be found in war, financial collapse, societal collapse, revolutions, etc.
But not peak oil and not climate change, not before 2030. I find the revelations by Brezinski meanwhile more interesting that the latest inventory of the planets fossil fuel resources.