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That Time John Bolton Said It’s Good To Lie About War
Journalist Whitney Webb recently tweeted a 2010 video clip I’d never seen before featuring US National Security Advisor John Bolton defending the use of deception in advancing military agendas, which highlights something we should all be paying attention to as Trump administration foreign policy becomes increasingly Boltonized.
On a December 2010 episode of Fox News’ Freedom Watch, Bolton and the show’s host Andrew Napolitano were debating about recent WikiLeaks publications, and naturally the subject of government secrecy came up.
“Now I want to make the case for secrecy in government when it comes to the conduct of national security affairs, and possibly for deception where that’s appropriate,” Bolton said. “You know Winston Churchill said during World War Two that in wartime truth is so important it should be surrounded by a bodyguard of lies.”
“Do you really believe that?” asked an incredulous Napolitano.
“Absolutely,” Bolton replied.
“You would lie in order to preserve the truth?”
“If I had to say something I knew was false to protect American national security, I would do it,” Bolton answered.
“I don’t think we’re often faced with that difficulty, but would I lie about where the D-Day invasion was going to take place to deceive the Germans, you’d better believe it,” Bolton continued.
“Why do people in the government think that the laws of society or the rules don’t apply to them?” Napolitano asked.
“Because they are not dealing in the civil society we live in under the Constitution,” Bolton replied. “They are dealing in the anarchic environment internationally where different rules apply.”
“But you took an oath to uphold the Constitution, and the Constitution mandates certain openness and certain fairness,” Napolitano protested. “You’re willing to do away with that in order to attain a temporary military goal?”
“I think as Justice Jackson said in a famous decision, the Constitution is not a suicide pact,” Bolton said. “And I think defending the United States from foreign threats does require actions that in a normal business environment in the United States we would find unprofessional. I don’t make any apology for it.”
So that’s a thing. And it’s important for us to know it’s a thing because of the way things are heating up in Iran right now, since Bolton’s fingerprints are all over it.
Bolton has long been calling for war with Iran and in a paid speech in July 2017 told his pro-regime change MEK terror cult audience that they would be celebrating the successful overthrow of the Iranian government together before 2019. Now we’re seeing threat alarms being elevated and fearmongering about Iranian missiles being circulated, with reports being leaked to the press of possible plans to send 120,000 US troops to the region.
This is an environment that is ripe for deceptions of all sorts, and, given what Bolton said on live television nearly a decade ago, we would all do very well to remain very, very skeptical of any and all news we hear about Iran going forward. If for example you hear that within this environment of escalated tensions and military posturing Iran or one of its “proxies” has attacked the United States in some way, your immediate response should be one of intense skepticism about what the mass media talking heads are telling you to believe.
Back in 2012 at a forum for the Washington Institute Of Near East Policy think tank, the group’s Director of Research Patrick Clawson openly talked about the possibility of using a false flag to provoke a war with Iran.
“I frankly think that crisis initiation is really tough, and it’s very hard for me to see how the United States president can get us to war with Iran,” Clawson began.
(Can I just pause here to note what a bizarre series of words that is? “Get us to war with Iran?” Get us to the thing that every sane human being wants to avoid with every fiber of their being? You want to “get us to” there? This is not the kind of thing normal humans say. You only hear this kind of insanity in the DC swamp where creatures like John Bolton have their roots.)
“Which leads me to conclude that if in fact compromise is not coming, that the traditional way that America gets to war is what would be best for US interests,” Clawson added. “Some people might think that Mr. Roosevelt wanted to get us into the war… you may recall we had to wait for Pearl Harbor. Some people might think that Mr. Wilson wanted to get us into World War One; you may recall we had to wait for the Lusitania episode. Some people might think that Mr. Johnson wanted to get us into Vietnam; you may recall we had to wait for the Gulf of Tonkin episode. We didn’t go to war with Spain until the USS Maine exploded. And may I point out that Mr. Lincoln did not feel that he could call out the Army until Fort Sumter was attacked, which is why he ordered the commander at Fort Sumter to do exactly that thing which the South Carolinians said would cause an attack.”
“So if, in fact, the Iranians aren’t going to compromise, it would be best if somebody else started the war,” Clawson continued. “One can combine other means of pressure with sanctions. I mentioned that explosion on August 17th. We could step up the pressure. I mean look people, Iranian submarines periodically go down. Some day, one of them might not come up. Who would know why? We can do a variety of things, if we wish to increase the pressure (I’m not advocating that) but I’m just suggesting that this is not an either/or proposition – just sanctions have to succeed or other things. We are in the game of using covert means against the Iranians. We could get nastier at that.”
“We Know Where Your Kids Live” John Bolton threatened head of chemical weapons commission as part of effort launch war against Iraq https://t.co/p8uluxbWGH
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) April 2, 2018
So these are ideas that have been in circulation for many years. That gun is loaded and ready to fire.
Bolton trussed up his 2010 confession using an example that most people would agree with: that it was reasonable for the Allied forces to deliberately deceive the Nazis about the nature of the D-Day invasion. But we know John Bolton better than that by now. This PNAC director and architect of the Iraq war once threatened to murder a foreign official’s children because his successful diplomatic efforts were putting a damper on the manufacturing of consent for the Iraq invasion. He wasn’t defending the use of deception in crucial military options used to halt tyrants trying to take over the world, he was defending the use of deception in the senseless wars of aggression that he has built his political career on advancing.
Take everything you hear about Iran with a planet-sized grain of salt, dear reader, and everything you hear about Venezuela too while we’re on the subject. There are skillful manipulators who are hell bent on toppling the governments of those nations, and they have absolutely no problem whatsoever with deceiving you in order to facilitate that. And they don’t believe the rules apply to them.
65 Comments on "That Time John Bolton Said It’s Good To Lie About War"
Duncan Idaho on Thu, 16th May 2019 8:06 pm
Might be time to throw out the trash.
makati1 on Thu, 16th May 2019 8:19 pm
Just Nuke DC and start over. An air burst of a neutron bomb, a mile up, will do it. The radiation will kill the swamp monsters and save the infrastructure. No residual radiation or fallout.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_bomb
But, I guess the serfs will just have to suffer as they don’t have access to that cure. GO TRUMP!
Davy on Thu, 16th May 2019 8:28 pm
Bolton won’t last long. How long does anyone in the Trump Administration last?
Duncan Idaho on Thu, 16th May 2019 8:50 pm
How long does anyone in the Trump Administration last?
The Fat Boy does let them go—
But there are so many psychopaths to chose from.
makati1 on Thu, 16th May 2019 9:44 pm
It’s fun watching the real life Trump Show, using his famous, “YUR FIRED!” line. If this DC reality show had been a TV series, it would not have lasted a month. Not believable just 20 years ago. But, after 9/11, the US went insane and it has been getting progressively worse. AT some point it has to crash and burn. Soon I hope.
GO TRUMP! TRUMP IN 3030! Finish the destruction/isolation of the US! JUST DO IT! LMAO
Cloggie on Fri, 17th May 2019 2:00 am
I’m with Bolton: “give war a chance!”, the war that will end empire, the war that will test Russian and Chinese supersonic missiles, illustrating that in 2019, navies are an anachronism of previous centuries and that you can’t “project power” from the bottom of the ocean. The war that will prompt Americans-with-an-attitude to get their guns and secede from the regime that landed them in a third world shithole.
#KickTheKike
Davy on Fri, 17th May 2019 4:52 am
“What Putin And Pompeo Did Not Talk About”
https://tinyurl.com/y2kyqa59 asia times
“Talk about a larger than life euphemism. Moscow is extremely uneasy over the possibility of a destabilization of Iran that allows a free transit of jihadis from the Caspian to the Caucasus. Which brings us to the heart of the matter. Diplomatic sources – from Russia and Iran – confirm, off the record, there have been secret talks among the three pillars of Eurasian integration – Russia, China and Iran – about Chinese and Russian guarantees in the event the Trump administration’s drive to strangle Tehran to death takes an ominous turn. This is being discussed at the highest levels in Moscow and Beijing. The bottom line: Russia-China won’t allow Iran to be destroyed.”
“The real deal was, in fact, not Putin-Pompeo or Pompeo-Lavrov in Sochi. It was actually Lavrov-Wang Yi (the Chinese Foreign Minister), the day before in Moscow.”
“In terms of substance, it’s remarkable how Lavrov and Wang Yi talked about, literally, everything: Syria, Iran, Venezuela, the Caspian, the Caucasus, New Silk Roads (BRI), Eurasia Economic Union (EAEU), Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), missiles, nuclear proliferation. Or as Lavrov diplomatically put it: “In general, Russia-China cooperation is one of the key factors in maintaining the international security and stability, establishing a multipolar world order. . . . Our states cooperate closely in various multilateral organizations, including the UN, G20, SCO, BRICS and RIC [Russia, India, China trilateral forum], we are working on aligning the integration potential of the EAEU and the Belt and Road Initiative, with potentially establishing [a] larger Eurasian partnership.”
“Top Russian military analyst Andrei Martyanov was way more scathing. Russia won’t break with China, because the US “doesn’t have any more a geopolitical currency to ‘buy’ Russia – she is out of [the] price range for the US.” That left Ushakov with his brave face, confirming there may be a Trump-Putin meeting on the sidelines of the G20 summit in Osaka next month. “We can organize a meeting ‘on the go’ with President Trump. Alternatively, we can sit down for a more comprehensive discussion.” Under the current geopolitical incandescence, that’s the best rational minds can hope for.”
Davy on Fri, 17th May 2019 4:52 am
BM is the real deal not PBM. Beijing Moscow just cemented a multipolar world with new checks and balances and this is a good thing in my opinion. This combination has stopped the out of control US foreign policy in its tracks. It is still out of control and still dangerous but it is now regrouping. Trump likes to talk so actually Putin and Xi might get something out of Trump if the deep state allows this. It is pretty evident the botched Mueller witch hunt wounded the deep state. This trampling of the constitution may turn out to be a good thing because there is a vacuum in the deep state. All this is a testament to the sophistication and leadership of Putin and Lavrov. Putin has weathered the storm and is now the preeminent global leader.
Putin is an amazing leader, like him or not. He has redesigned a world according to a proper arrangement of de facto zones of influence that naturally exhibit a balance of power. This does not mean the world is safe. It does not mean the US will not continue to strike out on its own self interests. China is a new superpower much greater than Russia in all but military sphere. China has to be watched too because of its enormous power. Russia has embraced China thereby influencing two super powers. This is truly a Putin coup that will go down in history as one of the greatest of geopolitical victories. If the world can hold this arrangement together along with some kind of BM/US accommodation then we might get to a world that can cooperate on issues that are soon to tear the world apart.
Notice there is no talk of a Eurasian PBM. There is no talk because there is none. Russia wants good relations with Europe. Many in Europe want the same but Europe is also a super power but more economic. If Europe could get a new and improved NATO right then why invent the wheel. It is Europe that can work on the US now that this new multipolar order is cemented. This BM arrangement may cause NATO to rethink its Russian policy. Europe has tremendous challenges ahead from within. Europe is keen on Eurasia economic integration but there is no indication of Eurasian political and military integration. There is no need for Europe. It is difficult to integrate the EU let alone a far flung continent of so many different cultures and political arrangements.
The US is still a power despite what anti-Americans say. It will continue to be but we are to the point in the world history thanks to Putin that there is a real balance of power. This multipolar arrangement is still unstable but if it holds it will be a blessing to the world. It is obvious the US is out of control within and from outside with its foreign policy and political leadership. The world is still a dangerous place but steps have been taken to balance power. The best thing the US leadership could do now is deescalate. This is where the unique leadership of Europe could come in. If push comes to shove the US will listen to Europe. There is a unique relationship there for decades. Both need each other with this new BM arrangement. If the US deescalates a lasting global arrangement might get further along before the last days of globalism begin. These last days will be ugly and we don’t need worse.
Cloggie on Fri, 17th May 2019 4:54 am
Even the lefties of the Dutch msm “Volkskrant” know that DJT only wants to threathen with war, but his “security team” wants a real war:
https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/zijn-veiligheidsteam-droomt-van-oorlog-trump-wil-er-alleen-mee-dreigen~b8fa1815/
makati1 on Fri, 17th May 2019 5:06 am
Spot on Cloggie. The fading US is full of bluster, (bullshit) but the only way it will get into a real war is by accident and I do not mean a ‘false flag’. It’s time he fires his warmongers before they destroy America. Oops! They and Trump already are! Keep it in the ME Trump! 4,000 miles from the Philippines. Then you won’t have resources to start one here as your masters in Israel will be getting destroyed by Iran and their ‘gang’.
Smart investment advice: Companies that make body bags. Looks like it may be a booming (pun intended) business again!
Davy on Fri, 17th May 2019 5:41 am
“Is China’s “Mandate Of Heaven” In Jeopardy?”
https://tinyurl.com/y6kmxdyb daily reckoning dot com
“If China encounters a financial crisis, Xi could quickly lose what the Chinese call, “The Mandate of Heaven.” That’s a term that describes the intangible goodwill and popular support needed by emperors to rule China for the past 3,000 years. If The Mandate of Heaven is lost, a ruler can fall quickly. China has serious structural economic problems and its internal contradictions are catching up with it. Economies can grow through consumption, investment, government spending and net exports. The “Chinese miracle” has been mostly a matter of investment and net exports, with minimal spending by consumers. The investment component was thinly disguised government spending — many of the companies conducting investment in large infrastructure projects were backed directly or indirectly by the government through the banks. This investment was debt-financed. China is so heavily indebted that it is now at the point where more debt does not produce growth. Adding additional debt today slows the economy and calls into question China’s ability to service its existing debt. China is now confronting an insolvent banking system, a real estate bubble, and a $1 trillion wealth management product Ponzi scheme that is starting to fall apart. Up to half of China’s investment is a complete waste. It does produce jobs and utilize inputs like cement, steel, copper and glass. But the finished product, whether a city, train station or sports arena, is often a white elephant that will remain unused. Chinese growth has been reported in recent years as 6.5–10% but is actually closer to 5% or lower once an adjustment is made for the waste. The Chinese landscape is littered with “ghost cities” that have resulted from China’s wasted investment and flawed development model. What’s worse is that these white elephants are being financed with debt that can never be repaid. And no allowance has been made for the maintenance that will be needed to keep these white elephants in usable form if demand does rise in the future, which is doubtful. Essentially, China is on the horns of a dilemma with no good way out. On the one hand, China has driven growth for the past eight years with excessive credit, wasted infrastructure investment and Ponzi schemes.”
“China has hit a wall that development economists refer to as the “middle income trap.” Again, this happens to developing economies when they have exhausted the easy growth potential moving from low income to middle income and then face the far more difficult task of moving from middle income to high income. The move to high-income status requires far more than simple assembly-style jobs staffed by rural dwellers moving to the cities. It requires the creation and adoption of high-value-added products enabled by high technology. China has not shown much capacity for developing high technology on its own, but it has been quite effective at stealing such technology from trading partners and applying it through its own system of state-owned enterprises and “national champions” such as Huawei in the telecommunications sector. Unfortunately for China, this growth by theft has run its course. The U.S. and its allies, such as Canada and the EU, are taking strict steps to limit further theft and are holding China to account for its theft so far by imposing punitive tariffs and banning Chinese companies from participation in critical technology rollouts such as 5G mobile phones. My view is that a crisis in China is inevitable based on China’s growth model, the international financial climate and excessive debt. A countdown to crisis has begun. Geopolitical issues will make the economic issues even harder to resolve.”
Antius on Fri, 17th May 2019 5:49 am
European right-wing populists look poised to displace centre-left parties across Europe in upcoming European elections.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/0/european-elections-polls-latest-brexit-party/
The catalyst for this transition has been deteriorating prosperity; but what it is really about is ejecting an unworkable and utopian globalist world-view and replacing it with a more down-to-earth, rooted and tribal world-view – the world view that most of humanity has shared through most of history.
For left-wing utopians it is a distressing time; a time in which they are forced to share political platforms with people that they cannot tolerate (i.e. anyone that doesn’t agree with them). For most of us ‘little people’ that have had to live in the wreckage of their grand experiment for half a century or more; it is a happy time.
Returning to Britain. If the EU does take a turn towards tribalism, I believe it should prompt a rethink of Brexit. Our reasons for wanting to leave were all about trying to escape a centralised, socialist bureaucratic monster; that was trying to mould its member states into coffee coloured homogenised counties of a single super-state. A more nativist confederation is something worth being part of and something we should be prepared to defend.
makati1 on Fri, 17th May 2019 6:09 am
Davy’s Sinophobe brainwashing has closed his mind to reality, again. Or should I say, is continuing? No, I did not read your bullshit word salad, Delusional Davy. No one does.
China has advantages and resources the US can only dream about. Much as you want the US to regain its number one slot, it ain’t gonna happen. Not now. Not ever.
All XI has to do is run out the clock. He doesn’t have to be reelected, Trump does. Fun to watch from here. Pass the popcorn. LOL
Davy on Fri, 17th May 2019 6:20 am
“Davy’s Sinophobe brainwashing has closed his mind to reality, again. Or should I say, is continuing? No, I did not read your bullshit word salad, Delusional Davy. No one does.”
Well, makato, you obviously just did. You are the primary reason this forum has been radicalized with lies. I am proud of the fact I have neutered you now going on 5 years. VICTORY
“China has advantages and resources the US can only dream about. Much as you want the US to regain its number one slot, it ain’t gonna happen. Not now. Not ever.”
China has many advantages and disadvantages. Looking at China in a binary fashion as you do is just a result of your anti-American hard-on. You are so pissed off about your failed American life you want everyone to know about it. You act like you are some geopolitical visionary. You are stupid old man losing his mental capacity.
“All XI has to do is run out the clock. He doesn’t have to be reelected, Trump does. Fun to watch from here. Pass the popcorn. LOL”
Yea, you are going to have fun alright because your P’s is caught right in the middle of a trade shit storm. LOL. You may not be able to buy popcorn makato. You might be passing cold rice.
Davy on Fri, 17th May 2019 6:44 am
“Cash, credits and crisis: life in the new European ‘precariat”
https://tinyurl.com/y6mxs25a guardian
“One of the big criticisms of the EU is that it has shifted the focus over the past 30 years from social protection and solidarity towards growth and globalisation. The upshot has been rising inequality and mounting precariousness for a tier of people who find that work can be insecure, sporadic and so low paid that it doesn’t even cover the bills. A survey published this week by the European Council on Foreign Relations shared with six European newspapers in the Europa group found that only a third of Germans and a quarter of Italians and French typically had money left over at month-end for discretionary spending. Recent work by French economists meanwhile found that the average income of the richest 1% of Europeans has grown twice as fast as that of the bottom 50%. The poverty rate remains 21%, the same as it was in the mid-2000s. “This rise in inequality, visible in almost all the countries in Europe, has taken place in a context of growing fiscal competition between European states which has undermined the progressiveness of taxation,” according to the study published last month by Lucas Chancel, Thomas Blanchet and Amory Gethin.”
Hello on Fri, 17th May 2019 6:51 am
>>> towards growth and globalisation
Of course. Europeans are as greedy as the rest of the world is. They are ever ready to sell out their land, their culture, their identity, their heritage for GROWTH.
GO EUROPE !
Cloggie on Fri, 17th May 2019 6:53 am
Ajax was beaten by Tottenham, but at least got national champ this week. Per tradition the team was received by the mayor of Amsterdam, Femke Halsema, one of the hardest leftist multicult fanatic you can find in Holland, where the competition for that role is stiff. Lefties LOVE soccer, because it is one of the few terrains where whites and non-whites can compete at eye-level, a fact that for the first time in world-history becane obvious in 1936, of all places in Nazi-Germany:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1205901/Forget-Hitler–America-snubbed-black-Olympian-Jesse-Owens.html
Back to Amsterdam, lefties may love soccer, soccer fans no longer love leftist politicians. Halsema was booed for minutes and thrown things at:
https://youtu.be/_0K4zsyE8v0
Halsema is famous in Holland for promoting mass immigration, yet she withdrew here own kids from a black school, white stating that “her children were no social experiment!”
Yeah right. Less fortunate white folks don’t have that luxury.
Davy on Fri, 17th May 2019 6:58 am
“China’s swine fever problem is a national crisis, agriculture group says”
https://tinyurl.com/yy59fd5p South China Morning Post
“African swine fever, the contagious disease ravaging China’s pig herds, represents a national crisis requiring more government funding to quell, the head of an agriculture group said. The full extent of the damage to the country’s US$128 billion pork industry is still being fathomed, and any estimate of the economic impact from the virus on the swine industry will be “stunning”, Li Xirong, director of the China Animal Agriculture Association, told more than 400 people involved in the sector at a meeting in the eastern city of Wuhan on Thursday.”
“African swine fever has become a serious and disastrous issue, Li said. China’s pig industry must focus on how to stop it spreading further, how to restore pork production, and identifying alternative sources of meat, said Li, whose association organised the meeting. If all-round bio-security measures are taken, the disease should be preventable and controllable, Li said. A State Council meeting, due to take place on Thursday, will discuss ways to maintain pork supply, he said.”
Hello on Fri, 17th May 2019 7:19 am
>>> leftist multicult fanatic you can find in Holland
Amazing. The native europeans let themselves be led in their homeland by an import muzzi. And the only resistance they put up is throw a single paper cup.
Europe truly lost it. Negros in parlaments, muzzis as mayors, … is there hope?
Cloggie on Fri, 17th May 2019 7:25 am
This just in: Brexit talks collapsed
https://www.nu.nl/brexit/5896884/brexit-gesprekken-tussen-premier-theresa-may-en-labour-partij-geklapt.html
Hard Brexit unfortunately almost inevitable. Expect either BoJo or Farage to become Britain’s next strongman.
It was already obvious from leaked rumours that pm May was in tears earlier this week. She has my sympathy, like Chamberlain, the “Europeans” if you will.
Apparently Corbyn thinks he can get Britain on his own terms. However that ambition could fail if BoJo and Farage decide on power sharing.
joe on Fri, 17th May 2019 7:48 am
It’s not certain that Boris Johnson will be the next Tory leader. It is important that the next Prime Minister is a Brexiteer due mainly to the fact that Britian voted to leave the EUSSR. Having a remainer as PM during Brexit led us directly to this mess because she was unable to consider options outside the EUSSR framework, Corbyn is a Brexiteer and could be a good leader if only he would keep Trident and stop supporting muslim terrorist ideology infecting Labour.
Cloggie on Fri, 17th May 2019 8:15 am
“Amazing. The native europeans let themselves be led in their homeland by an import muzzi. And the only resistance they put up is throw a single paper cup.
Europe truly lost it. Negros in parlaments, muzzis as mayors, … is there hope?”
Apparently hello never reads a newspaper and completely missed the populist revolution talking place around his alpine country. Too busy admiring the US, the source of the multicult nightmare. But hello is a moneymaking Swiss, who never reads books about the background of social developments.
Best place to start: Kevin MacDonald, the culture of critique.
Hello on Fri, 17th May 2019 8:25 am
>>> populist revolution
revolution my ass. A little bit of crying and whining by some. Meanwhile the youngsters are indoctrinated in school to see a negro as one of theirs, while the adults run in the hamster wheel of work to buy the next vacation to escape the shit. Pathetic spineless europeans. I almost want to say they get what they deserve.
BTW, did you hear that one already?
One bureaucrat says to the other: I really don’t know why people don’t like us. We don’t do anything. 🙂 Ain’t that a good one?
Clog, one of those day I need to visit you. Got any good beer in NL? Ahh no, the good beer is next door in Belgium, right?
Antius on Fri, 17th May 2019 8:36 am
Since the end of WW2, European politics has been dominated by centre-left parties and we live in the wreckage that their shallow idealism has created. They rode the wave of growing oil-based prosperity and exploited a public sentiment that was prepared to let anything go, so long as the good times rolled.
The thing I find hardest to accept about these people, is not any specific point on their policy list, which I may agree or disagree with, depending upon what it is. My own political views have changed enormously in my life, as I have learned more and adjusted my understanding. What I believe today, is very different to what I believed when I was 20 and the process is ongoing.
What appals me most is the moral absolutism that people with left-wing beliefs tend to display, an unyielding arrogance that shuts down all possibility of democratic coexistence. The fact that they cannot tolerate people that disagree with them; to the point where they cannot debate, share a platform, or even allow their opponents to exist as free men. It never occurs to these people that their opponents may understand the situation in a way that they do not; they are incapable of adjusting their thinking and they display a moral disgust towards anyone that does not accept their unchangeable point of view. It is a character flaw that makes any democratic coexistence impossible; it tends naturally to totalitarianism and brutal oppression.
In my opinion, this is the greatest problem that Western Europe has today. The fact that expressing certain points of view will not simply earn criticism (which is healthy) but will actually land you with a criminal conviction and a prison sentence for daring to utter such an unacceptable opinion. There are many people rotting in Britain’s gaols today whose only mistake was to speak too loudly a point of view that ruling left-wing elites find ‘unacceptable’. Go to most other European countries and you will find the same. It is an ugly stain on our nations, that flies in the face of enlightenment. It disturbs me that so few people appear to recognise the significance of this; the fact that we have lost the only freedom that really matters in life; the freedom to choose what we believe.
Davy on Fri, 17th May 2019 8:53 am
“populist revolution. revolution my ass. A little bit of crying and”
“whamp” what was that, says Cloggo? 2×4. LMFAO. Good work hello
Cloggie on Fri, 17th May 2019 8:53 am
“Clog, one of those day I need to visit you. Got any good beer in NL? Ahh no, the good beer is next door in Belgium, right?”
Heineken is for foreigners, many in NL prefer Belgian beer. Anything you can buy in Belgium, you can order here as well.
Robert Inget on Fri, 17th May 2019 9:11 am
https://www.bourseandbazaar.com/articles/2019/5/17/china-restarts-purchases-of-iranian-oil-bucking-trumps-sanctions
Fuck with Iran you better be prepared for China to drop the hammer on US Treasures .
Hello on Fri, 17th May 2019 9:13 am
>>>> In my opinion, this is the greatest problem that Western Europe has today.
Not sure about that. It was always the case that the dominant party/world view/philosophy tried to muffle any opposing views. Nothing new here with the left. What’s a bit different this time is that a multi kulti society can only be held stable with either enough prosperity to make everybody complacent and/or with draconian policing.
The biggest problem of the west is the demographic decline of natives combined with the enormous productivity and innovation which creates a big vacuum to import labor. Each time a native dies without filling the hole he leaves behind, a replacement 3rd worlder will do it instead. Slowly undermining the fabric of a cohesive society.
joe on Fri, 17th May 2019 9:34 am
It’s so easy to criticise native people’s of Europe for doing nothing while globalist elites fill up every space they can with Asians. Decades of policy have simply been to do the exact opposites of what they claimed. Just Google videos of what Clinton’s etc used to say about migrants. They lied. They claimed to be against illegal migrants and then they ignored it because they wanted women in the workplace. This led directly to the lowering of male wages, the broadening of the tax base and lower birth rates. Two generations of Europeans have been given a pacifist liberal socialist education as a policy to prevent breakouts of nationalism and violent communism. Elites are abusing their positions to enrich themselves and the native Europeans are expected to shut up and do nothing otherwise they’ll get compared to Hitler. This was exactly the casus bellum used by liberals to bomb Christian Serbs when they finally got tired of Muslim jihadi extremists and fought back and the US stepped in cause they were not supposed to win, victory for whites is not part of the plan, you don’t get it….
Hello on Fri, 17th May 2019 9:43 am
>>> not part of the plan
There is no plan. The world is one back-stabbing, double crossing, betraying, slandering cluster fuck. Where everybody tries to get the biggest bite and then some more.
The reason why first italians then spanish then turks were imported into switzerland was because no natives were available to will thousands of open worker positions. Simple!
I know, it’s less glamorous than the jew conspiracy.
Hello on Fri, 17th May 2019 9:47 am
>>> the native Europeans are expected to shut up and do nothing otherwise they’ll get compared to Hitler
That is true. No problem of flying a “black lives matter” flag in the US. But I dare you to fly a “white lives matter” flag. I won’t hear the end of it, and mostly from apologetic whites, no less.
Antius on Fri, 17th May 2019 10:03 am
“That is true. No problem of flying a “black lives matter” flag in the US. But I dare you to fly a “white lives matter” flag. I won’t hear the end of it, and mostly from apologetic whites, no less.”
Do it in Britain and you get arrested and probably sent to prison. The place is really that oppressive. What’s more, the place has about as many CCTV cameras as it has people; and armies of secret police goons that scour the internet, reading public forums for signs of dissent. That way, the authorities can really make sure that no one displays a ‘white lives matter’ flag without being duly punished and ruined for their heinous thought-crime.
How I love to hate this place. Those who gods wish to destroy, they first make insane.
joe on Fri, 17th May 2019 10:03 am
But there absolutely is a plan, its supposed to be this.
A liberal Europe will be a bulwark against Russia and provide a platform for projecting US (aka western) power.
The problem with the plan is that Russia is no longer a power and the EUSSR is morphing from a child into a rebellious teen. The US had the world at its feet on 9-10-01 but from the the next day on it has been weakened and no it is poised to be nothing but the hand of Israel and Saudi foreign policy. Focusing on the ‘whiteness’ of European people is really an American mistake its exporting American racism into a context where it does not apply. Europe is many things but ‘white’ is not one of them. Historically Europe has been Arab, Turk, Slav, Germanic, Celtic, Greek, Roman and even African. ‘Whiteness’ is linked to native pan Europeanism which is a liberal EUSSR invention and its totally failing and likely to be a cause of EU break up, rather than a unifying force. If they would have accepted instead of tried to erase European differences then they could have created a stable political structure which promoted trade and commerce rather than led to the social welfare dumping illegal migrant filled horror show about to be spun into chaos that will make the break up of Yugoslavia look like a joke.
Cloggie on Fri, 17th May 2019 10:25 am
It’s official, the British Queen, old German nobility, is not allowed to ventilate political opinions. But it is clear she opposes Brexit and sees Britain as part of Europe:
https://m.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/queen-elizabeth-ii-outete-sich-als-europafan-a-1267955.html
She didn’t like Thatcher too much and likely neither BoJo and Farage.
Antius on Fri, 17th May 2019 10:57 am
“It’s official, the British Queen, old German nobility, is not allowed to ventilate political opinions. But it is clear she opposes Brexit and sees Britain as part of Europe”
Oh dear. I’m sure the queen is a political genius. A big part of why she is not persuaded to vent her political opinion is to protect her credibility as a monarch. She does have a certain role to play and it requires a high level neutrality.
Back to Europe – I would point out that the EU is not Europe. It is a political affiliation that has not served any of its members particularly well. It has been a force behind the third world colonisation of Europe.
It may be that the EU needs to fail before something better can rise out it’s ashes. Something based upon protecting, rather than undermining, the native people’s of Europe. Or maybe you can achieve that through a populist rebellion without having to start again. Either way, the EU as it stands, needs to go.
Davy on Fri, 17th May 2019 10:57 am
“white lives matter” flag. Well we don’t have that but around here they instead fly the confederate flag and nobody in there right mind would take it down. It doesn’t mean white lives matter to people either it means don’t fuck with me basically. We don’t have whining white people around here.
Hello on Fri, 17th May 2019 11:38 am
>> the confederate flag
yes, it’s my favorite flag, too. I even have it as a bumper sticker on the car (in Switzerland). It says “fighting terrorism since 1861” 🙂 LONG LIVE DIXIE!
Hello on Fri, 17th May 2019 11:41 am
>>>> Either way, the EU as it stands, needs to go.
Finally we see the light ! I salute the brave people of the UK to bravely take their destiny into their own hands. Free from Brussels oppression. LONG LIVE THE UK!
Robert Inget on Fri, 17th May 2019 11:53 am
China buying oil from Iran, (again)
Trade deal with China is Not going to happen.
I’m hearing Iran is producing over 3 MM barrels/day, sending to storage. That is more than 2.55 MBD reported by secondary sources.
Iran minister visited India and China recently.
With China NEEDING to import 10.5 M B daily,
India is bound to get shut out at some point.
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/India-Becomes-3rd-Largest-Oil-Importer.html
Oh, FYI China is now the world’s first major importer.
IOW’s Until the US lost ‘the balance of power’
(Venezuela) The US could claim to be energy independent. No Longer. China is buying up Canada’s oil sands operations on open markets.
(There are only two known oil sands operations, one in Canada, one in Venezuela.
THIS JUST IN…
Canada, Mexico, reach deal to lift Alum and Steel
tariffs. Bullish for Markets IMO.
joe on Fri, 17th May 2019 12:05 pm
It’s doubtful that the EUSSR will vanish, not because it’s politically a failure, which it is, but because of its genesis as a series of trade and economic treaties starting with a steel and coal pact between
France and Germany right after ww2. The EUSSR is based entirely on the theory that if you join at the hip economically then you join at the hip forever. However unlike the US they never addressed the national and cultural differences which the American founders addressed right from the begining, that people have freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, freedom of religion, the right to bear arms and the freedom to overthrow bad government through elections. The EUSSR proposes to introduce a constitution designed in Brussels as a one size fits all document to force all European nations into a single body politic in the next 5 years. One economy, one culture, one law, one army, this new country will be an ally of Russia and China as the biggest economy on earth in a globalised market driven by elites.
Hello on Fri, 17th May 2019 12:12 pm
>>> as a one size fits all document to force all European nations into a single body politic
How is that different from the US?
>> right to bear arms
Are there enough bears alive to supply every citizen with bear arms? 🙂 (sorry, I couldn’t resist)
FuelShortageComing on Fri, 17th May 2019 12:14 pm
The Western world needs to die. We need chaos and death to shake up the old system. The old capitalist system need to die and people benefiting from it need to die too.
We need new people with new idea and the only way to achieve that is by killing the Western nations and economy. Western nations need to die and become dysfunctional like African nation. We need to bring new ideas forward such as a Joule managed economy. We need war and elimination of useless parasite such as Blacks and Arabs
It will appear that GOD knows it and HE is working on it with a new ice age.
https://electroverse.net/french-sowing-slows-further-as-cold-weather-persists/
France was battered by a brutal cold front during the second half of April and first half of May — the key planting window — with the mercury hitting all-time lows and effectively slamming the brakes on sowing efforts.
Original source behind a pay wall but here it is:
https://www.agricensus.com/Article/French-corn-sowing-slows-further-as-cold-persists-6600.html
Robert Inget on Fri, 17th May 2019 12:16 pm
China dangles huge oil deals with Canada.
Pressuring to get BC to permit Trans Mountain PL.
IOW’s putting Canadian trade with US at risk.
If TMP does win BC approval, mid-range Canadian
oil sands companies will rocket in value.
Watch CVE, CNG, CNQ.
Suncor, Exxon, still boss of Can ‘Big Oil’.
Lesson; Never try to fight two wars, one hot, the
other cold, at once. You lose BOTH, but drive enemies together.
2nd Lesson; Never neglect friends, you might need them on the way down.
(one reason Trump backed off steel Tariffs on Mexico and Canada)
Robert Inget on Fri, 17th May 2019 12:28 pm
Insurance companies were the first to PUBLICLY come out with global warnings.
(only The Pentagon preceded)
Here’s what Maritime Insurance is saying about
Trump’s ME warmongering;
http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFL5N22T4F2
By Jonathan Saul
LONDON, May 17 (Reuters) – London’s marine insurance market has extended the list of waters deemed high risk to include Oman, the United Arab Emirates and the Gulf after ship attacks off Fujairah, officials said on Friday, in a move that could push up premiums.
The London insurance market’s Joint War Committee said in a statement that the additions cover areas of perceived enhanced risk for marine insurers and reflected enhanced regional risk.
“The situation will be kept under close review,” said the Joint War Committee, whose guidance influences decisions by underwriters on insurance premiums.
Four tankers, comprising Saudi Arabian, UAE and Norwegian-flagged ships, were attacked on Sunday off Fujairah. No one has claimed responsibility for the incident.
Cloggie on Fri, 17th May 2019 12:55 pm
It has been a force behind the third world colonisation of Europe.
Not true.
Perhaps they would like to do that, but they have zero power to enforce a third-worldization program.
Proof: Salvini can close his borders with impunity, Orban and several Balkan states have built effective fences and there is absolutely nothing the EU can do about it. Even stronger, I cannot remember that Brussels even protested or threatened to take these fences down “or else”. I think they were secretly glad. The only thing they TRIED (in vain) is pushing Eastern European countries to relief Germany a little and take over some of their invaders, on pressure of Merkel. But they refused, good for them.
The third-worldization (racial communism) program that IS going on, is entirely executed by national governments, who act like vassals of Washington, in an entirely similar fashion as Eastern European countries acted like vassals of Moscow to enforce economic communism.
The problem is the national elite (the same people occupying Brussels), but the main problem is Washington. As soon as the influence of Washington wanes (as it does now), the peoples of Europe will throw off their US-imposed multicult yoke and return to normality. That process is now in full swing and in a couple of years multicult will be a forgotten ideology, certainly in continental Europe.
Hello on Fri, 17th May 2019 1:07 pm
>>>> a couple of years multicult will be a forgotten ideology, certainly in continental Europe.
Good job Clog on ending Friday on a positive note. 🙂
Cloggie on Fri, 17th May 2019 1:08 pm
There is no plan. The world is one back-stabbing, double crossing, betraying, slandering cluster fuck. Where everybody tries to get the biggest bite and then some more.
The reason why first italians then spanish then turks were imported into switzerland was because no natives were available to will thousands of open worker positions. Simple!
I know, it’s less glamorous than the jew conspiracy.
Complete uninformed BS.
Italians and Spaniards are completely harmless. They have a proud heritage and only were in Northern Europe to make a buck and for nothing else. We had them here in Eindhoven-NL (Philips) in the sixties by the thousands. Sad bastards, sitting in their own cafes, waiting until they could go home to their families and beautiful homelands. They went home to the last man. And now that their wealth level has been substantially increased, thanks to the EU and common market, they wouldn’t dream of travelling to northern Europe.
Won’t be different with the Eastern Europeans. Here an article about the trouble German farmers have in getting the harvest done without cheap Eastern European hands, who no longer are that eager to work for little money:
https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/spargel-bauern-suchen-dringend-erntehelfer-a-1267887.html
The British will miss them too after Brexit, when they will be stuck with Muslims only.
It is also true that entrepreneurs (essentially PC Antifa clowns with a BMW under their butts) played a very negative role in getting mass immigration pushed through.
But the real harm has been done on a cultural, medial and academic level, not to mention fake history writing. And THAT is where the JQ comes in.
Robert Inget on Fri, 17th May 2019 1:17 pm
Is Trump going broke paying dozens of Lawyers
to keep him out of prision.
By Ginger Gibson and Julia Harte
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. President Donald Trump took out a new 30-year mortgage on a sprawling oceanfront house steps from his own Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida, and it is sitting empty on the rental market, according to financial disclosures made public on Thursday by the Office of Government Ethics.
The $18.5 million West Palm Beach mansion was purchased in May 2018 from one of Trump’s older sisters and was secured with an $11.2 million mortgage that has a 4.5% interest rate, Florida public records show.
Trump disclosed the loan as a liability in financial disclosure forms filed this week.
A real estate website lists the eight-bedroom house, which is near the Mar-a-Lago beachfront estate and private club in Palm Beach, as available for rent for about $81,000 a month.
The Palm Beach Daily News reported that the president’s two adult sons, Eric and Don Jr., who are running his business while he is in office, bought the more than 10,000-square-foot (930-square-meter) house last year from Maryanne Trump Barry, a former federal judge.
Beginning in 2023, the interest rate can be increased, but is capped at a 2-percentage-point increase a year, according to mortgage documents filed with the county.
The White House declined to comment on the filings.
The financial disclosures are mandated by law and offer a peek into the president’s sprawling finances.
Unlike all other modern presidents, Trump has refused to release his tax returns, which would offer a clearer picture of how much money he is bringing in.
Democrats in Congress are working to try to obtain a copy of Trump’s income tax returns, but so far the administration has resisted demands.
Antius on Fri, 17th May 2019 1:22 pm
“Perhaps they would like to do that, but they have zero power to enforce a third-worldization program.
Proof: Salvini can close his borders with impunity, Orban and several Balkan states have built effective fences and there is absolutely nothing the EU can do about it.”
What about this?
https://tinyurl.com/y2k5g3yq
Just imagine what these people would do if they had control of an EU army.
Antius on Fri, 17th May 2019 1:28 pm
“The problem is the national elite (the same people occupying Brussels), but the main problem is Washington. As soon as the influence of Washington wanes (as it does now), the peoples of Europe will throw off their US-imposed multicult yoke and return to normality. That process is now in full swing and in a couple of years multicult will be a forgotten ideology, certainly in continental Europe.”
I live in hope of that day. Maybe a more nationalist Europe can help liberate the British people from their ZOG tormentors. The present situation is simply awful.