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Saudi Crown Prince Claims Assassination Attempt Against Him Was Thwarted

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BBC Arabic reports based an exclusive Jerusalem Post story that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman told a group of Evangelical leaders who met with him in Riyadh earlier this month there was a recent plot to assassinate him, and that the plan was thwarted by Egyptian intelligence. 

The Jerusalem Post first broke the story this week based on accounts of the returning Evangelical delegation who met with the crown prince on November 1. Joel Rosenberg, who led the delegation of American Evangelical Christians said MbS relayed that the head of Egyptian intelligence recently came to Riyadh to inform Saudi authorities that a terrorist cell with Saudi citizens had been caught in northern Sinai. “They were planning to assassinate me,” MbS told the American delegation.

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The assassination plotters were reportedly arrested on Egyptian soil but it is unclear if they were transferred to Saudi Arabia or if they remain in an Egyptian prison. Likely MbS revealed the detail to elicit sympathy at a moment when for over a month he’s faced unprecedented media scrutiny over the October 2nd murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Istanbul.

He told the Evangelical delegation concerning Khashoggi’s death that his “enemies are exploiting this to the fullest” — perhaps implying that he’s put at greater risk of an assassination attempt or violence due to the backlash and wave of criticism he’s currently facing. He denied being behind the Khashoggi killing and condemned it as “a mistake” and a “heinous act” that will not go unpunished.

MbS further recently tried to present himself as vital to the West’s war on terror, and said further in the meeting with American pastors: “We must fight the extremists and defeat them or they will stop us and the reforms we are making to make life better for the people of Saudi Arabia.” He also vowed to shore up relations with the US and other regional allies and said: “We are fighting extremists in the ideological war and we are fighting terrorists in a physical war,” according to the Jerusalem Post.

MbS told a delegation of American Evangelical Christian Leaders in Riyadh that he was subject of an assassination plot. 

Interestingly, at a time when a number of international leaders have appeared to pull back public support for MbS, Israeli officials have issued rare positive words in defense of the Salman regime after recent years of quiet behind the scenes coordination with Saudi intelligence in places like Syria or Yemen. Last week Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said at a summit with East European leaders in Bulgaria that while the killing of the Saudi journalist at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul was “horrendous,” stability in Saudi Arabia is vital to global security.

Netanyahu’s frank assessment of the Khashoggi affair was as follows, according to Haaretz:

What happened in the Istanbul consulate was horrendous, and it should be duly dealt with. Yet at the same time I say that it is very important for the stability of the world, of the region and of the world, that Saudi Arabia remains stable.

Likely MbS will continue to emphasize his “war on terror” rhetoric to continue to attract positive relations with both Washington and Israel, and will also put himself forward as the victim.

Perhaps we will hear of more thwarted “assassination plots” to come from the mouths of Saudi officials, eliciting sympathy from a momentarily hostile press and world officials.

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39 Comments on "Saudi Crown Prince Claims Assassination Attempt Against Him Was Thwarted"

  1. Chrome Mags on Fri, 9th Nov 2018 11:12 pm 

    Ah, poor Saudi Prince. Oh, maybe we got you all wrong because of your order to torture and kill kashoggi. Now you’ve given us reason to feel sorry for you, instead of wanting retribution.

    NNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG. Sorry, the manipulation was scented out by our lier panel and you’re still on the hot seat of torture/murder.

  2. Sissyfuss on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 8:51 am 

    In the picture you see all the “suits” positioned in anticipation to be the first to kiss some serious Saudi ass.

  3. Cloggie on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 9:04 am 

    Big Macron-Trump harmony show in Paris:

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/gedenk-gipfel-trump-und-macron-bemuehen-sich-um-versoehnliche-toene-a-1237789.html

    Both agree that the European role within NATO should increase and that of the US decrease. Fair enough.

    This does absolutely not exclude the possibility of a European Army. Spending should be 50-50.

  4. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 9:11 am 

    Clogg

    Why do you you keep ignoring my post?

    There will be an oil shortage in the 2020’s, Goldman Sachs says
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/09/goldman-sachs-there-will-be-an-oil-shortage-in-the-2020s.html

    You chickens are coming home to roost!

    LMFAO!

  5. Cloggie on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 9:37 am 

    Why do you you keep ignoring my post?

    There will be an oil shortage in the 2020’s, Goldman Sachs says

    Because we have discussed this several times before.

    “An oil shortage is coming says Goldman Sachs, because firms cannot fully invest in future production.”

    Nothing to do with peak oil supply.

    “Global oil majors are increasingly looking to invest in lower-carbon areas of the energy sector, as they react to pressure for cleaner energy, both from government policy and investors.”

    “Della Vigna said “Big Oils” are starting to understand that if they want to be widely owned by investors, they need to show that they are serious about minimizing the amount of carbon in the atmosphere.”

    Oil is seen as toxic (atmospheric and business alike), not depleting.

    The gist of the article is NOT approaching catastrophe (which is what you hope), but a shift in energy policies.

  6. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 10:07 am 

    Clogg

    You can’t invest in what hasn’t been found

    Recently, the HSBC oil report stated that 80% of conventional oil fields were declining at a rate of 5-7% per year. This means that there will be an oil shortage of ~30 million barrels per day by 2030 and ~40 million barrels per day by 2040.
    http://www.scribd.com/document/367688629/HSBC-Peak-Oil-Report-2017

    What is mentioned far less often is that annual oil discoveries have lagged annual production since the 1980s.
    https://imgur.com/a/6dEDt

    Now, this problem has nothing to do with the recent decline in the oil price, which started in 2014. This has been an on-going problem for the past 30 years. Now, the IEA is predicting oil shortages by ~2020 due to declining exploration.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/iea-says-global-oil-discoveries-at-record-low-in-2016-1493244000

    Here, the IEA blames this problem on the low oil price. But, this problem started in the 1980s. The problem is geological: we are running out of conventional cheap oil. Shale and tar sands are not the answer, either. Those resources are far too expensive, compared to conventional oil, because the global economy is based on cheap conventional oil. Expensive oil is not a replacement for cheap oil.

    Based upon the HSBC report and the IEA, the End of Oil Age will start around ~2020: there will be a dramatic economic depression due to exhaustion of cheap oil. This will cause a global economic collapse.

  7. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 10:09 am 

    CLogg

    What will happen when the oil shortage hits?

    ‘Peak Oil’ and the German Government

    Military Study Warns of a Potentially Drastic Oil Crisis

    The team of authors, led by Lieutenant Colonel Thomas Will, uses sometimes-dramatic language to depict the consequences of an irreversible depletion of raw materials. It warns of shifts in the global balance of power, of the formation of new relationships based on interdependency, of a decline in importance of the western industrial nations, of the “total collapse of the markets” and of serious political and economic crises.

    The study, whose authenticity was confirmed to SPIEGEL ONLINE by sources in government circles, was not meant for publication.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/peak-oil-and-the-german-government-military-study-warns-of-a-potentially-drastic-oil-crisis-a-715138.html

    TOTAL COLLAPSE OF MARKETS AND GOVERNMENTS!

    BRING IT ON!

  8. Cloggie on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 10:12 am 

    Brexit, final act.

    Probably next week, perhaps on Monday, the details of the Brexit agreement will be made public. Well, an agreement between the two negotiators Barnier and Raab that is.

    Westmonster is next. Some fear that the Conservative Party could blow up on the issue.

    We all know Bo Johnson, he could star in a Bond movie as the villain, he is THAT blond:

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/1832F/production/_88391199_bojoonazipwire.jpg
    (graphic)

    Turns out Bo has a brother and look-alike called Jo.

    Jo is a calmer version of Bo. In addition Jo is a Remainer. He wants to sabotage Brexit via a 2nd referendum. Yet he abandoned the May government last week in protest of what he already sees coming: a watered down Brexit, turning the UK in a vassal state rather than a member. Jo prefers to be a member.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6373891/Jo-Johnson-modest-reticent-loyal-MP-resignation-left-friends-shock.html

    Jo’s resignation is a small sign of things to come, fears Peter Oborne:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6373905/PETER-OBORNE-Mrs-Mays-deal-spark-eruption-blows-Tories-bits.html

    The Marxist Corbyn of the opposite Labour party sees the rain coming, which could cause a snap election with Corbyn heading the next government:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6374019/Jeremy-Corbyn-holds-meeting-head-MI6-time.html

    Very significantly MI6 deemed it opportune to invite Corbyn, and get him instructed on state secrets and procedures. Corbyn won’t stop Brexit, but would opt for staying in the Common Market (“Norway”) as he rejects US style Manchester Capitalism. Tory grand Michael Heseltine for this reason would not mind if Corbyn became PM.

    The situation could very well that the Brexit deal hammered out by the EU and May government won’t be accepted as such:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6372625/Transport-minister-Jo-Johnson-QUITS-warning-Brexit-disaster.html

    May could be unemployed soon. It is a very likely sccenario: the Tories committing suicide over Brexit.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6374553/He-FALSE-promises-Jo-Johnson-slams-brother-Boris-urges-ministers-quit.html

    For Europe it would be the best solution. Politically Britain would be out, paving the way for Russia, but economically in they would be in, contributing to the coffers in Brussels and make it less likely for the UK to develop into the role as the US one and only unsinkable aircraft-carrier after Trump, deployed against continental Europe.

    Interesting times.

  9. Cloggie on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 10:25 am 

    Michael Heseltine, one of the British politicians I respect most, because of his rather low “House-of-cards”-coefficient and honesty, explains coherently why he is against Brexit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yZDvnKERP0

    And he is brutally honest:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/24/lord-heseltine-suggests-brexit-allowing-germany-win-world-war/

    “Lord Heseltine suggests Brexit vote allows Germany to win World War Two”

    Which is the truth. Not that I mind that “Germany will win WW2”, I love it! Germany, in alliance with France and later Russia, has the potential to take over from Anglosphere and Anglo-Zionism.

    The White Race Saved by the Brexit Bell, so to speak.

    Sorry Michael.
    Go for it, Jeremy!

  10. Hello on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 10:26 am 

    I hope the brave people of the UK can break free from their evil EU overlords. The sooner the evil EU goes to hell the better for all of us.

  11. Hello on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 10:35 am 

    >> The White Race Saved

    what you mean? Look at the birth rates. Practically 3rd world throughout the west. Not much saving that can be done.

    Maybe in the Appalachian mountains they will install a white reservation? Or in the Alps, the most isolated valleys of switzerland?

  12. Cloggie on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 10:39 am 

    I hope the brave people of the UK can break free from their evil EU overlords. The sooner the evil EU goes to hell the better for all of us.

    I noticed that effectively Switzerland was forced to abandon the banking secrecy because of the EU, eliminating much of the lucrative but criminal white-washing of criminal money.

    Hard feelings?

    Oh, and dream on, the EU will not “go to hell”.

    Hello fails to see the decisive role of America/Anglosphere in the development of the multicult disaster in the West, he hates so much, let alone that he has any clue about who instigated the program.

    He thinks that westerners are “clueless” about immigration. He is clueless about (((why))) it happens.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/opinion/stacey-abrams-georgia-governor-election-brian-kemp.html

  13. Cloggie on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 10:45 am 

    what you mean? Look at the birth rates. Practically 3rd world throughout the west. Not much saving that can be done.

    Nothing is lost, provided we replace the western oriented elites with Russian oriented elites, aka populists:

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/methode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F5d220680-890e-11e8-a0fd-e428ecc3ac12.jpg?crop=812%2C457%2C22%2C15&resize=685

    Putin in Austria:

    https://i2.wp.com/www.omanobserver.om/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/1422403.jpg?resize=800%2C445

    Birth rates can be increased of policies to that effect will be in place.

    AfD add:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdGtKgDyzVQ

    “New Germans? We produce them ourselves!”

    https://www.news24.com/World/News/putin-unveils-plan-to-boost-birth-rates-in-russia-20171128

  14. Hello on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 10:46 am 

    >> Switzerland was forced to abandon the banking secrecy

    yes, but that was because of the US, a masterpiece of diplomacy/coercion/tactic by the US. The cowardly swiss just folded.

    >> He is clueless about (((why))) it happens

    Not sure, just my explanation differs from your. But even if I’m wrong doesn’t really change anything, you see. Go to any classroom in the west and take a glimpse at the future of the racial makeup. It’s distinctly 3rd world. I’m curious on how your’e going to change that. Especially without having young, desperate and pride whites that get the “job” done.

  15. Hello on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 10:52 am 

    >> Birth rates can be increased

    Yes, but does policies also apply to the 30% 3rd world already in the nation.

    The ratio of 3rd world in the nation is done, paid, baked in. Practically irreversible.

  16. Cloggie on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 12:19 pm 

    Birth rates of non-whites in the West don’t differ much from those of whites. Birth rates are dropping everywhere in the world, except Africa.

    Go to any classroom in the west and take a glimpse at the future of the racial makeup.

    For America whites below 20 is 45%.

    Switzerland is nowhere near that:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland#Demographics

    5% Muslims.

    Nothing is lost for Switzerland or any other European country, provided the populist wave continues. But the real salvation will come when the current political standoff in the US will turn nasty. From that moment the European US-oriented elites will be toast and the West will be over, thank God.

    Russia, here we come!

    Together with Russia, Europe (640 million) can provide order in North-America and separate warring factions.

    Once the old America will be gone, the poor Brits have no choice but become European.LOL

    Libtardism and modernism can then be canceled and replaced by solid 19th century reactionary policies.

  17. Cloggie on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 1:02 pm 

    France and Germany now:

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/angela-merkel-und-emmanuel-macron-erinnern-an-weltkriegsende-a-1237799.html

    What a difference with 100 years ago.

  18. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 2:31 pm 

    Russian news sites are claiming an American civil war will erupt during the 2020 presidential election

    https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-election-american-civil-war-2018-11?fbclid=IwAR1ggvIj_3DDLiufwOTHbwo8aIgpJH8LJwyoO0ESJBXjhalFMFASs0k5gw4

    Well see Putin..Just wait till we hit you with a nuclear first strike..and all of America unites!

  19. Cloggie on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 2:44 pm 

    CW2 will start shortly after Trump leaves office.

    German ex-minister said the same, a short time ago:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jvkEG7fc8GM

    Oh and Trump will not nuclear strike Russia.

  20. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 3:37 pm 

    CLoggie

    There won’t be a civil way you nut case..Americans are way to lazy for that..

    Only you whack jobs on the right dream of that..

    And Trump will do what he is told..He already did in Syria with two obvious false flags..

  21. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 3:44 pm 

    Caravan migrants leave Mexico City en masse, headed for U.S.-Mexico border

    http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-caravan-20181110-story.html

    Come one, come all!

    Take whitey’s job and then you can take his woman!

    LMFAO!

  22. Cloggie on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 4:12 pm 

    Come one, come all!
    Take whitey’s job and then you can take his woman!

    LMFAO!

    But, read my lips, there won’t be a civil war!

    LMFAO!

    Here is my proud CW2 link collection:

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2018/06/11/cw2-brewing/

    Note that most links were handed over to me by the mobster!

    LMFAO!

  23. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 4:20 pm 

    White genocide!

    https://vgy.me/vefDp8.jpg

    Europe is turning into EurAfrica!

    LMFAO!

  24. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 4:24 pm 

    Clogg

    Without mass immigration Europe will die off. And have an economic collapse

    https://imgur.com/a/z7GHKux

    Open borders or economic collapse?

    You choose!

    LMFAO!

  25. makati1 on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 6:36 pm 

    MOB: Without mass immigration the US will die off. And have an economic collapse

    “…bring America what it desperately needs: Namely, more strong backs to supplement what is a declining pool of native born workers…

    And its not that we have too many immigrants-legal, illegal and otherwise. The 44 million current immigrants in the US, in fact, constitute a lower ratio to the population than the 15% which prevailed during the heyday of American growth and prosperity in the second half of the 19th century….”

    http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2018/11/the-nations-fiscal-doomsday-machine-is.html

    Third World America…

  26. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 7:11 pm 

    A Worldwide Debt Default Is A Real Possibility

    Notably, the combined debt of the US, Eurozone, Japan, and China has increased more than ten times as much as their combined GDP [growth] over the past year.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnmauldin/2018/11/07/a-worldwide-debt-default-is-a-real-possibility/?fbclid=IwAR0Uxfg3HthpCeGR4oiLGUbB37Qzw_SPhq1XS5wxyaENecgsGbPw6oNatQ8#5fe4df5e53aa

  27. makati1 on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 7:40 pm 

    And you believe Forbes? There is also a possibility of an asteroid hitting the earth and wiping out all life. It has happened before. But will it happen soon and if so, how much destruction? Guesses. Nothing but guesses.

    Definitely, the West is going down. No argument there. It is already on its way. China, not so much. Totally different economy and government. A creditor nation, not a debtor nation like the Western ones.

    China has been a country for 5,000 years and will be one long after the US is toast.

    BTW: “Universities are today’s centers of connection. They are one of the last vestiges of American tribalism and community in an age of self isolation and artificial technological cultism. Adults do not meet face to face much anymore to share knowledge, or discuss the troubles of the day. The academic world provides such opportunity, but at a terrible price. To connect with the world, students must comply. To be taken seriously, they must adopt, consciously or unconsciously, the robes of the state. They must abandon the passions of rebellion and become indifferent to the truth. All actions and ideas must be embraced by the group, or cast aside. They must live a life of dependency, breeding a culture of fear, for that which others keep for us, they can easily take away.”

    http://www.alt-market.com/articles/733-has-america-been-crippled-by-intellectual-idiots

    Well college grad, how does it feel to be an intellectual idiot? (Snowflake?) ^_^

  28. Davy on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 8:47 pm 

    Let’s get back on topic…..

    It’s Saturday night and I’m so horny.

  29. Davy on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 8:53 pm 

    DIRTY JUAN
    IDENTITY THEFT

    Davy on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 8:47 pm

  30. Cloggie on Sat, 10th Nov 2018 10:33 pm 

    “Open borders or economic collapse?

    You choose!”

    Ummmm… I choose your head chopped off. Politically speaking, of course.

  31. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 11th Nov 2018 2:15 am 

    Clogg

    looks like it will be EurAfrica!

    https://imgur.com/a/z7GHKux

    Im sure those big African migrants will have no problem planting their seed in little ole whitey!

    LMFAO!

  32. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 11th Nov 2018 2:35 am 

    There will not be a revolution in our lifetimes..

    This is what Lenin wrote back in 1917

  33. Cloggie on Sun, 11th Nov 2018 3:29 am 

    100 years Franco-German relations and the railway-wagon:

    1918:

    https://tinyurl.com/ycnr77ey

    1940:

    https://tinyurl.com/y7xfr8hh

    2018:

    http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/angela-merkel-und-emmanuel-macron-erinnern-an-weltkriegsende-fotostrecke-165034-6.html

    Anglo-Franco alliance means war in Europe (2x).
    Franco-German alliance means peace in Europe.

    Now draw in Russia:

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2014/09/19/putin-confirms-ambition-paris-berlin-moscow-alliance/

  34. Cloggie on Sun, 11th Nov 2018 3:48 am 

    Im sure those big African migrants will have no problem planting their seed in little ole whitey!

    K*kes like you are the essence of the US deep state since 100 years. You need to be and are going to be destroyed, at least politically.

    #110

    What you openly say is what your entire tribe thinks, namely that whitey needs to be destroyed:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/opinion/stacey-abrams-georgia-governor-election-brian-kemp.html

    Americans whites like Davy and Siss are too lame, too much of a pussy to do anything about their own demise and keep parroting the words your tribe has put in their minute brains: “raysiss!”, “natzi!”, “swastika!”.

    But outside the US, all elites around the world know who is really running the joint:

    https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/167289/nanjing-jewish-studies

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCxaFngWTXI

    And we also know how desperate American whitey really is. And you think you and your tribe can dominate the world much longer and at the same time you can afford to destroy the collective white competence upon which your power is based? Can’t you see the terminal flaw in your geopolitical grand strategy?

    Old Roman proverb put into your mouth:

    Those who are going to die salute you.

    Kosher (and hence Anglo) prime time is up. Eurasia is next.

  35. boney joe on Sun, 11th Nov 2018 3:57 am 

    Most deserving of a repost by Anonymouse:

    “The exceptionalturd is one making all the fake posts. He then turns around, and blames, well, everyone he doesn’t like for making them (which is pretty much everyone with a few notable exceptions).

    One of those notable exceptions, is I AM THE DAVYTURD. He never blames ‘him’ for any alleged ‘identity theft’. Mmmm wonder why that is……

    No, the delusonalturds latest hobby horse is making fake posts, and them blaming Juan for it. Once he tires of that, I am sure he’ll go back to blaming Mak, or China, or Putin, hell find someone or something to blame his nutter-ness on.”

  36. Cloggie on Sun, 11th Nov 2018 5:31 am 

    Hard Brexit after all?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6376699/EU-turns-life-support-PM-DUP-joins-forces-Tory-Eurosceptics.html

    “Brexit endgame for May: EU ‘turns off life support’ for PM by rejecting Irish border compromise plan amid claims FOUR Remainer ministers are ‘on the verge of quitting'”

    The coming hours/days will be crucial for the fate of the West. In a latest development the EU has rejected UK proposals for the Irish border problem, basically putting a knife in May’s back.

    What the EU should do IF talks break down is putting the UK out of the EU altogether on WTO terms + $39B divorce bill and a blockade if the money isn’t paid.

    Apart from that the EU can offer 4 packages, without further negotiations, entirely defined by the EU. Pick and choose:

    1. WTO
    2. Canada
    3. Norway
    4. Remain (without rebates and acceptance of the euro)

    Argument: what is good enough for top-of-the-bill countries like Canada and Norway, with whom we enjoy excellent relations, is good enough for the UK as well.

    Most likely a Corbyn follow-up government would chose “Norway”.

  37. Davy on Sun, 11th Nov 2018 6:05 am 

    “What the EU should do IF talks break down is putting the UK out of the EU altogether on WTO terms + $39B divorce bill and a blockade if the money isn’t paid.”

    neder, what you should do is explain how that will work and explain the effects of the economic poison on the EU. You don’t think things through.

  38. joe on Tue, 13th Nov 2018 10:10 am 

    Not sure how much of anything can be saved if climate change keeps going on course. Not sure many fathers would enjoy the idea of the world their great grand kids could be living in. Historical Boat tours of Paris, docking at the fast rusting tour de eifel. Looking for work in that we’ll known bread basket of the world, Siberia!

  39. joe on Tue, 13th Nov 2018 10:13 am 

    The EUssr can’t even make a budget for Italy. The EU is inoperable as a system because of its soviet style system. Trade will break down eventually.


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