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Sanders Wants Nationwide Fracking Ban

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Saying it’s a danger to the air and water supply, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders upped his rhetoric on hydraulic fracturing Monday by calling for a nationwide ban on fracking.

In a statement to the press, Sanders – running against former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for the Democrat’s nomination for the 2016 U.S. presidential election – drew a stark contrast between his position and those of his opponent. During a March debate in Michigan, Clinton said she supports fracking that meets certain criteria when it is favored by the communities in which it would occur.

“If we are going to leave this planet in a way that is healthy and habitable for future generations, we need bold action now,” Sanders said.

According to the statement, oil and gas lobbyists have “bundled thousands of dollars for Clinton’s campaign directly.”

Actress and longtime activist Susan Sarandon features prominently in a TV ad released April 11.

“Bernie Sanders is the only candidate for president who opposes fracking everywhere,” she said in the 30-second spot, “No Fracking Anywhere.”

Sanders and Clinton have sharpened their attacks in the days leading up to the debate April 14 in New York, a state that banned fracking in 2014.

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37 Comments on "Sanders Wants Nationwide Fracking Ban"

  1. Pennsyguy on Mon, 11th Apr 2016 5:37 pm 

    It’s a nice gesture, but this horse has left the barn and is nearing starvation.

  2. onlooker on Mon, 11th Apr 2016 5:40 pm 

    Not going to happen. Oil is the lifeblood of the economy Bernie. So stop promising what you cannot deliver.

  3. Dredd on Mon, 11th Apr 2016 5:45 pm 

    “Sanders Wants Nationwide Fracking Ban”

    So do I.

    But more than likely the ban will be imposed by you know what (The 1.14% vs. The 100%).

  4. GregT on Mon, 11th Apr 2016 5:56 pm 

    Poor Bernie, he doesn’t stand a chance. It appears that he has too many rational ideals. The corpocracy will chew him up and spit him out.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/275478-susan-sarandon-appears-in-new-sanders-ad

    Hillary’s our man. Maybe The Donald™ could play Secretary of State?

  5. Plantagenet on Mon, 11th Apr 2016 6:21 pm 

    I don’t understand why so many Ds are backing Hillary in spite of her links to Wall Street, oil companies, and unsavory billionaires. You’d think the D party is now the party of oil and fracking, big business, Wall Street, bailouts for billionaire and giant corporations and ever more foreign interventionism from the way the Ds are voting.

    Cheers!

  6. Davy on Mon, 11th Apr 2016 6:55 pm 

    You can’t pick and choose in the oil business. It is aa much about economics as it is policy so if you want a fracking ban indicate the consequences. Sure they may not be immediate because there are plenty of supplies elsewhere but a fracking ban is a slipper slope of reduce supply ending with a collapsed global economy. People want something until they are told the downside then they get tongue-tide.

    Fracking is dirty and uneconomic per peak oil dynamics that we speak about daily here but it is still suply and still part of the macro oil complex. If we want to leave oil lets at least stock up on body bags. If we don’t leave oil we will need them too. How about that for a campaign slogan.

  7. Apneaman on Mon, 11th Apr 2016 7:12 pm 

    It’ll never happen.

    Researchers fly over 8,000 well pads and find hundreds of methane leaks

    “In total, the researchers flew over 8,000 pads in areas saturated by drilling, including North Dakota’s Bakken Shale and the Marcellus Shale in Southwestern Pennsylvania.
    The goal, according to a blog post from researchers involved, was to “better characterize the prevalence of ‘super emitters’” — the largest sources of the gas industry’s methane pollution.
    Results of the study, accepted on Tuesday in the Environmental Science and Technology journal, show that 90 percent of leaks from nearly 500 sources sprung from the vents and hatches, or doors, on gas tanks.
    The leaks were not a problem caused by old age, as emissions were more likely to be detected at newer wells. According to researchers, this is a clear indication that control systems already in place to prevent leaks are not up to par.”

    http://newpittsburghcourieronline.com/2016/04/10/researchers-fly-over-8000-well-pads-and-find-hundreds-of-methane-leaks/

  8. geopressure on Mon, 11th Apr 2016 7:17 pm 

    Bernie believes what here hears on TV, apparently… He has no idea what the implications of such a policy would be, not how unrealistic such a policy is…

    Democrats should be for fracking… If Fracking is banned & oil goes to $200+/BBL then all Republican Campaigns for President, House, Senate, & Governor offices from then on are better funded than the democrats…

  9. makati1 on Mon, 11th Apr 2016 7:21 pm 

    Won’t happen by imperial degree, but the economy will take it down soon.

  10. Practicalmaina on Mon, 11th Apr 2016 7:32 pm 

    Lifeblood of the economy? Fossil fuels are trimming jobs this upcoming depression while renewables are adding.

  11. shortonoil on Mon, 11th Apr 2016 7:34 pm 

    Shale has invested over $1 trillion dollars to create an industry that does annual gross sales of $320 billion, and has never turned a profit (unless one was flipping leases). What’s not to like! If you are an investment bank, working on borrowed zero percent money, which is 100% backed by the issuer, You have run into a financial dream come true. Just because it may help stem the collapse of a financially bankrupt nation is no excuse to get excited about it!

  12. shortonoil on Mon, 11th Apr 2016 7:49 pm 

    “If Fracking is banned & oil goes to $200+/BBL then all Republican Campaigns for President,….”

    The growth in GDP for the 1st quarter came back today; it is at an annual rate of 0.1%. How is oil going to go to $200 when there is obviously no growth in the economy. No growth, no increase in demand, no price increase, period!

    Join the other 7 billion poor souls who are stuck on this planet!

  13. geopressure on Mon, 11th Apr 2016 7:56 pm 

    Shortonoil, if their is no fracking, then there is not enough oil to go around because China & India will buy it all… regardless what the GDP is, the price of oil would settle higher than it ever has before…

    & GDP #’s come from the US Government, don’t they… I guess you trust them…

  14. makati1 on Mon, 11th Apr 2016 9:36 pm 

    geo, your logic is illogical. If the Us stops fraking, it will not change anything. If you hadn’t noticed, China and India are not growing economies. They are shrinking economies, just like the Us, Japan, etc. The demand for oil is dropping, not growing. And if Iran boosts it’s out put to 3M+ bbls, it will be plenty for the actual demand. No price increase necessary.

  15. Anonymous on Mon, 11th Apr 2016 9:50 pm 

    ‘Bernine’ is the so-called Demokleptocrats 2016 answer to Barack Obomber. Looks and sounds ‘progressivey’ on the outside, totally for imperial wars and wall St. on the inside. The so-called ‘president’ of the americant empire has no authority to act in anything other than the corporate-war state interests. So, in the same way Obomber ‘wanted’ universal healthcare like civilized nations have, the ruling uS elites said, no way no how, Bernie could come along and say, no fraking, and the elites would say, no way no how.

    He might get a few unprofitable or troublesome sites symbolically shut down if he were ‘prez’, but no more.

    Bernie could no more pass a national fraking ban then obomber could deliver single payer, universal health care to the consumer-serfs of the uS empire. But if bernie said that, its because he knows its vote getter in certain quarters. He also knows the possibility of him passing such a ban is near zero. Lastly he also knows he can make such a proposal, have it defeated by corporate media interests, and then shrug and say, “hey, I tried, but the same corporate-oilgarchs I campaigned against derailed the whole thing”. BAU rolls on, and bernie looks like the well-meaning ‘prez’ who tried to take on big toxic oil-and lost. But at least he ‘tried’ and that’s what he would bank on people remembering.

    IoW, he loses very little by making such an empty promise.

  16. GregT on Mon, 11th Apr 2016 11:26 pm 

    “Fossil fuels are trimming jobs this upcoming depression while renewables are adding.”

    Practical?

    So called “renewables” are a product of the fossil fuels based modern industrial economy. Kind of difficult to built out alternate energy infrastructure on horseback, with axes and spades.

  17. antaris on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 12:18 am 

    Greg don’t give prac to much of a hard time. Pretty much everybody hasn’t thought out “renewables”.

  18. GregT on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 12:35 am 

    Sorry, didn’t mean to give him ‘a hard time’. I just thought that he had more sense than that. Thus the “?”.

  19. makati1 on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 12:40 am 

    antaris, problem with many is they do not think at all, just parrot what they are told by their masters.

  20. geopressure on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 1:21 am 

    Anonymous; I think that you underestimate the power of the U.S. Executive Branch…

    Still, What Bernie proposes is not even remotely within the realm of the possible… If Bernie were better educated on the subject, he would know that…

    Obama encouraged the U.S. Oil & Gas Industry (shale included) right up until the 2nd Quarter 2014 when he had the Ukraine’s Government overthrown & picked a fight with Russia. Why he instigated what could become a world war is difficult to understand… It sure gave him a great excuse to slam oil prices down, didn’t it??? What’s crazy is that the average U.S. Citizen is unaware of the ongoing conflict(s) with Russia. That’s because Russia is winning & Western Media do not cover foreign policy issues anymore.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-28/top-german-journalist-admits-mainstream-media-completely-fake-we-all-lie-cia

    Oh, & Biden will be democratic nominee… More than likely…

  21. Truth Has A Liberal Bias on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 1:27 am 

    check out Tom Whipple shilling for Rossi and his ecat scam lol what a mountebank!

    https://fcnp.com/2016/04/11/peak-oil-crisis-bizarre-twist/

    “About ten years ago an Italian entrepreneur, Andrea Rossi, building on work done by Italian scientists, developed a way to produce commercial amounts of heat utilizing low energy nuclear reactions (LENR). Prior to Rossi, LENR had primarily been a laboratory phenomenon. Ross first announced and then publically demonstrated his technology in 2011.”

    According to Whipple LENR is all good to go! what a clown!!

  22. Truth Has A Liberal Bias on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 2:29 am 

    Poor Tom Whipple has been brainwashed by the LaRouche cult.

    Falls Church News Press is run by Nicholas F Benton.
    Benton worked in the Lyndon LaRouche organization.
    LaRouche is the founder of the Fusion Energy Foundation.
    Whipple is a shill for LaRouche and I bet LaRouche has his dirty fingers in Rossi and his Ecat scam.

    LaRouche has a lawyer with the same last name as the twit that invented, and I use that term lightly, the e-cat.
    http://www.nytimes.com/1986/09/20/us/larouche-to-pay-250000-to-nbc.html

  23. PracticalMaina on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 8:03 am 

    GregtT no worries, I love getting called out on promoting renewables by a consumer of them such as yourself. 🙂 It is kind of difficult to build out renewables on horse back with axes and spades, that did not prevent the Dutch or many others from doing so. An electronic excavator and a slow speed rail car system would probably be more effective. So if an Eroei is over one then realistically you could re-purpose that power to build more of the product.
    Now everyone will say oh mining and transporting and yadda yadda. All can be easily achieved with electricity. There are massive electric pieces of excavation equipment in most coal mines, ditto overhead powered electric freight trains for moving product away from mines, 2 efficient uses of electricity because they can conserve their momentum. Refining and smelting requires primarily heat, something the South West and other areas can deliver with solar thermal.
    Climate change will probably kill us all, but at this point if we were an enlightened society, we could move away from fossil fuel in a huge way, the tech has been there for decades, drastically improving in some areas, but our society will not evolve in time.

    Silicone is derived from silica sand which is abundant. Newer thin cell panels require less silicone. There are alternatives to aluminum racking that can be used.

  24. makati1 on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 8:13 am 

    Practical, show me an electrical excavator that can match a mining machine using self-contained electric (battery). Those are what makes alternates possible, not any toy you talk about. No proof? Then it is bullshit. If you ignore reality it does not change reality. For instance:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3rt2yyn8fY

    Oh, and by the way, those buckets and teeth wear out and must be replaced regularly with high manganese content steel castings. Not something you are going to scavenge and recycle in the future. LMAO

  25. makati1 on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 8:15 am 

    And your sand naivete is even more laughable. Do you bother to do a bit of research before you type stupid things?

  26. joe on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 8:21 am 

    Ban fracking and where is the replacement supply of the decline of easy oil supposed to come from. ME is about to use giant fire extinguishers to blow the last drops out of their supergiants, when they do that and destroy the their wells, then millions of barrells of tight oil has to come on to replace that steep decline, tough oil from extreme places plus fracked condensate is the future of the oil industry, what they call ‘technological advances’.
    Americans will keep paying 3 dollars a gallon for gas but ROW, they’ll have to go back to camels and horses, they wont be able to afford it.

  27. Practicalmaina on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 8:29 am 

    The largest excavator in the world is grid tied. You don’t need expensive teeth if you are using easy to source materia, such as Minnesota silica sand, that is currently being used to temporarily increase domestic ff production threw fracking.

  28. PracticalMaina on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 8:31 am 

    Hows this for a toy Mak?
    http://www.directindustry.com/prod/joy-global-surface-mining-p-h-mining-equipment-i/product-40115-462878.html

  29. makati1 on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 8:36 am 

    Hahahaha. And WHERE does the electric come from? Coal/oil/NG/nuclear.

    Where do you get those energy sources? Mining/drilling/refining.

    Where does the electric come from to do those processes? Windmills and solar?

    LMAO

    P.S. provide a source for your assertion on the above excavator and your easy glass from sand.

    “… the extremely energy-intensive melting and refining process.”

    http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=12631

  30. joe on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 8:40 am 

    Armies of ants on tiny generators, turning little treadmills.
    Oh wait, i gotta feed the ants! Damn, wait i got it, i will push, you will steer, ok

  31. PracticalMaina on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 8:40 am 

    By easy to source I meant easy to dig. I am not saying it would be easy, but we currently have how many companys trying to make commercial spaceflight happen? How much advanced ordinance get used everyday globally? 1.3 trillion globally annually on the military right?

  32. makati1 on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 8:43 am 

    That is a puny piece of mining equipment.

    Who is going to make them when the SHTF?
    Replacement parts?
    Transport to the site?
    Maintenance?
    How about the electric source?

    It obviously will NOT run on solar or wind. It is a toy of the Age of Petroleum, nothing more. And those machines were made with hydrocarbon energy, not alternates. All that junk will be rusting hulks when the SHTF.

  33. PracticalMaina on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 8:48 am 

    looked all over, and there it was on wikepedia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_furnace

    3500C that just seems dangerous 🙂

  34. makati1 on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 8:48 am 

    Practical, you slid sideways in your argument. You don’t seem to see that when the collapse happens, it will be total and permanent. No reset. No recovery.

    Corporations will be gone. The factories will be empty buildings full of useless, rusting machines. Warehouses will be empty. Mines will be holes in the ground ans silent. You will be busy trying to get food, water and shelter, not recycling solar panels.

  35. makati1 on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 8:51 am 

    Do you have a solar furnace in YOUR backyard? No? If you expect to melt sand an make solar panels, you better get one. The Pyrenees and will be also shut down and silent.

    Perhaps you should take time and think. Consider TOTAL systems, not just your dreams and wants. Fantasy is for movies and books, not real life.

  36. PracticalMaina on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 9:05 am 

    Did you see on my link for that shovel “The industry’s best-selling shovel model, P&H 2800 series shovels are recognized for their durability and versatility, with over 225 P&H 2800 series machines placed into service since they were first introduced in 1968 – most of which are still operating today” Wow seems like if they were internal combustion motors they probably would need more maintenance. I did not slide sideways, the solutions are there but ff are entrenched in our society.

    We can keep a plane in the air for the circumnavigation of the world using solar, but we cant get solar to move huge lumbering pieces of equipment? Its all about the torque baby. No one needs to manufacture more, the coal digging infrastructure is overbuilt in this country and can be better utilized elsewhere.
    I can get a dozen fresnel lenses for free by this afternoon, they wont acheive 2200C but they could smelt most other metals, and acheive over 1000c and I’m sure there is a way to rig them up for higher temps, just not something the hobbyist should do when not desperate for a solution.

  37. GregT on Tue, 12th Apr 2016 9:45 am 

    “just not something the hobbyist should do when not desperate for a solution.”

    A solution to what Practical?


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