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Roubini Says Syria Strike Has ‘Wag the Dog’ Element

Nouriel Roubini, chief economist at Roubini Global Economics, comes to us from the Ambrosetti Workshop in Cernobbio, Italy and discusses geopolitical ramifications of U.S. military strikes on Syria. He speaks with Tom Keene and Guy Johnson on “Bloomberg Surveillance.”



65 Comments on "Roubini Says Syria Strike Has ‘Wag the Dog’ Element"

  1. Anonymouse on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 6:37 pm 

    Nouriel Roubini was born in Istanbul, Turkey, to Iranian Jewish parents.[2] When he was an infant, his family lived briefly in Iran and Israel. From 1962 to 1983 he resided in Italy, especially in Milan, where he attended the local Jewish school and then the Bocconi University, earning a B.A., summa cum laude, in economics. He received his Ph.D. in international economics from Harvard University in 1988, where his adviser was Jeffrey Sachs.[2] He is a U.S. citizen and speaks English, Persian, Italian, Hebrew, and conversational French.

    Oh, and he considers Jeffery Sachs one of his role models.

    Nuff said…

  2. Plantagenet on Fri, 7th Apr 2017 11:52 pm 

    Roubini thinks Trump bombing Syria to put on a show for Chinese Premier Xi and to distract from the problems facing his domestic agenda.

    I think Roubini is giving Trump too much credit—I think it was an impulsive decision rather than part of a planned and well thought out wag-the-dog political strategy.

    Cheers!

  3. joe on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 12:32 am 

    There was little impulsivity about it. They informed Russia and no doubt Assad knew what was coming, this is no suprise attack. Russia has an advanced air defence network in syria which it agreed not to use against the US as long as the US kept them informed, essentially the Russians giving permission to allow US activities. That deal is over.
    So who benfits? Asaads life just got allot harder cause of the risk of war between US and Russia. Sunni Jihadis just had their prayers answered and neo-cons working for Saudi/Israel (Hillary Killton and John Mc Cain) just had their prayers answered.
    This war just got extended by 10 years!

  4. Cloggie on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 12:56 am 

    What happened was that Trump finally caved in to the enormous pressure exerted on him, after he lost Bannon first. The kosher swamp, represented best by his Democrate son in law turned advisor Kushner, got the upperhand. Trump was confronted by the fake sarin pictures and “international outcry” and the timing was not exactly China-friendly either. The Swamp wants the US to remain an enemy of those who are not yet incorporated into the kosher NWO. That has been the purpose of the US now for a century, with Europe the first victim in 1945. They lost the USSR as an ally shortly after war, when Stalin began to throw the Jews out. Soon the US will lose a major European country. And besides, you cannot conquer the world with a population that for a large part can’t read. The only interesting question is how the worldmap will look like after the end of the US empire. Or who gets what.

  5. Anonymouse on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 2:22 am 

    Oh, so that’s going to be your new narrative slash rationalization for trumpf going forward eh, clogged spout?

    That trumpf heroically resisted the deep-Z state, but only after an epic behind-the-scenes-struggle, was he finally ‘forced’ to relent and act in a manner completely opposite to that of the (fake) image of him you;ve been broadcasting here non-stop for months? I mean, you are persistent troll I’ll give you that. Even as he padded his entire ‘cabinet’, with billionaires, neo-liberals of every stripe, rabid ex-generals, along with wall st, and fossil-fuel cartel insiders, ya STILL kept on insisting he was the second coming of Vladimir Putin.

    Weird isn’t it?

    Anyhow, pretty weak clogged. It would be a lot more efficient of you, to just admit you’ve trolling everyone all along. But hey, there is still hope hell pop out another AGW is a hoax tweet for you one of these days. You can always hope, right clogged arteries?

  6. Theedrich on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 3:17 am 

    It does not matter why Trump bombed. That crime is now a fait accompli.  The result will be more-strained relations with Russia (with no clear sign of strain reduction), an emboldening of the jihadist forces in Syria, greater determination on the part of Iran to fight the Great Satan, more U.S. troops (+ money) inside Syria to fight its “civil war,” and a general submergence into an unending bloodbath even greater than what has transpired hitherto.

    Amidst all this, it is bizarre to read of European elites — who cannot even pay the 2% of GDP for defense they had promised — talking about how they are going to achieve this or that major move, or how the U.S. needs NATO, etc., etc.  Europe is disappearing, soon to be swallowed up in a sea of parasitic and savage muds.  The current nihilist demi-gods, mostly nearing or past retirement age, fantasize that they still matter, and that European Kultur will magically survive the deluge of subhumans they are importing.

    This self-important aristocratic excrement is obsessed with one thing and one thing only:  how to suppress, imprison or expel White European “racists,” “xenophobes,” “anti-Semites” or anyone else who might take their power.  Except, of course, the Mohammedans who demand that Europe die.

  7. Cloggie on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 3:29 am 

    A picture worth 6 million words:

    https://twitter.com/Raiden679/status/850498098216521728

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/04/trumps-syria-strike-is-sign-of-bannons-waning-influence.html

    Juergen Elsaesser, one of leading figures behind the Pegida resistance movement and passionate supporter of Trump until yesterday, now completely disillusioned:

    https://www.pi-news.net/2017/04/elsaesser-trump-ist-irre-geworden/
    “Trump has gone mad”

    (He hasn’t, he just caved in)

  8. Cloggie on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 3:59 am 

    Europe is disappearing, soon to be swallowed up in a sea of parasitic and savage muds.

    No need to exaggerate, America (60-65%) goes first demographically and order will likely melt down there first. Eastern Europe is 100%, Russia 90% and Western Europe 85% white. And more important, Europeans have a proven deportation track record.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulPsNrMMZ3E

    On a positive note, Muslims have great trouble hiding their imperialist motives, giving us the perfect excuse to fight them, as soon as we get rid of Washington and their local vassals:

    https://www.pi-news.net/2017/04/merkel-wir-haben-uns-an-afrika-versuendigt/#comments

    Nothing is irreversible.

    But the end of the American Era will come with great bloodshed, both in Western Europe and most of all in North-America, unlike the demise of the USSR. You can abolish a useless leftist Soviet economic system overnight, but you can’t undo the racial egalitarian logic of the US empire with a stroke of a pen.

    Yesterday Alex Jones screamed that Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump were “enemies of the Republic”. So much for the “Alex Jonestein” flummery spouted by our wannabee intellectual from Toronto, who gets all his “wisdom” from Louis Farrakhan.

  9. Cloggie on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 4:44 am 

    The interpretation war begins:

    https://www.infowars.com/trumps-syria-strike-what-theyre-not-telling-you/

    Alex Jones says that there is the possibility that these strikes, that were very limited in its effect (6 Soviet-era MIG-23s, 6 people dead, airport still operational with no runways hit and everybody warned in advance), were intended to avoid the outside image of Trump “being a puppet of Putin”.

  10. joe on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 10:00 am 

    There is little to interpret. Trump wants to look crazy in front of China, he thinks theyll be scared of him. Sec Def goes to Washington next week to get an ear bashing from Putin. No serious damage has been done except to Trumps reputation, that makes 3 stupid military strikes in my book since he became president and a few hundred dead Arabs 2 of them against Sunnis. Trump is running out of friends fast.

  11. joe on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 10:02 am 

    Sorry, I mean sec def goes to Moscow.

  12. Cloggie on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 11:30 am 

    Ivanka Trump said to be behind the Syria attacks:

    https://www.infowars.com/donald-trump-carried-out-syria-missile-strike-after-being-convinced-by-daughter-ivanka/

    In the first seconds of the following video, Alex Jones calls the kosher Ivanka and Jared couple “enemies of the republic”:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOuqpBa-rt0

  13. Davy on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 11:39 am 

    An obvious and poorly presented false flag. It just goes to show how incompetent the top is getting these days. The interesting part is why and the goals. Is the obviousness and poor presentation an indicator of more and deeper elements of a story? Is Trump playing a deeper game that involves Putin? Who know but it makes you wonder because this event is such a failure on so many levels.

    “Michael Savage Turns on Trump, Says Syrian Gas Attack Was False Flag Operation”
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-08/michael-savage-turns-trump-says-syrian-gas-attack-was-false-flag-operation

    “Conservative talk show host, Michael Savage, who fervently supported Trump during the Presidential campaign, soured on him today. Savage, referencing his background in science, having a PhD in epidemiology, said the alleged gas attack in the ISIS controlled city of Idlib was most likely phosgene and not sarin. Backing up his claim that the attack did not contain sarin, Savage made reference to photos showing first responders attending to bodies without gloves or protective gear. Had sarin been used in the attack, all of those men in white helmets would be dead.”

  14. onlooker on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 12:23 pm 

    “We need to join up the dots between US debt and its wars. America has just two cards that no other country has. The biggest military in the world and the dollar as the world’s reserve currency. Break one and you break the other.
    Trump’s missile attack is in a bizarre way an attempt to shore up the dollar for in a couple quick bangs America looks mighty and maintains faith in the dollar.
    Once the dollar is no longer a reserve currency American debt becomes worthless and she will no longer be able to fund the arms industry – or anything else for that matter.”
    ———————————————————————————–
    “The underlying reason for warmongering against Russia is protection of the dollar.
    Gaddafi had a plan to challenge the dollar hegemony and look what happened to him – engineered by the evil Killary. Russia/China/India together are trying to challenge the dollar hegemony.
    The only way this can be stopped is by the US waging war on Russia. If Russia has to gear itself as a war economy and even be at war then she cannot develop currency strength.
    The US basks in its natural advantage of being isolated from the great Eurasian landmass which would be the principle theatre for war.
    However, times have changed and Russia now has the capacity to turn the whole of the US eastern seaboard into dust in an hour or so. A pre-emptive strike might be a prudent option – if Russia were not a Christian civilised country.”
    -Peter Kellow

  15. Northwest Resident on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 12:54 pm 

    One immediate effect of this “attack” was to drive the price of oil up a few bucks. Russia LOVES that! Nobody got hurt. The airport wasn’t worth a damn anyway. Assad gets to rail against the American aggressors and his people are even more afraid. ISIS gets to sit on the sidelines and watch the awesome fireworks show. And Trump gets to look “presidential”. Win win for everybody! Even for those frackers who desperately need oil to stay at a certain price level, and perhaps especially them.

  16. GregT on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 2:28 pm 

    “We need to join up the dots between US debt and its wars.”

    Saddam Hussein threatened to sell Iraqi oil in Euros and/or gold dinars. Hundreds of thousand were murdered over that little blunder.

  17. onlooker on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 3:03 pm 

    Why the US might not like current Syrian Regime.
    -Currently its central bank is State owned.
    -It has not accumulated IMF debt.
    -It has banned GMO seeds.
    -It has Oil and Gas Reserves.
    -It has dropped the US dollar.
    And last but not least The US wanted a pipeline from Kazakhstan to come through Syria, and he refused. He felt it would leave Syria vulnerable to ecological and terrorist damage…

  18. Davy on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 3:39 pm 

    Please, onlooker, check out the size of Syria’s GDP. That should tell you something. The ruling family is the problem. Bad blood from decades of conflict and opposition have made them a target. Don’t embellish the issue with irrelevant issues.

  19. Cloggie on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 5:03 pm 

    President Xi has left the US without a diplomatic row, but now we know what the Chinese leadership really thinks of the cruise missile attack:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/08/world/asia/china-xi-jinping-president-trump-xinhua.html?_r=1

  20. onlooker on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 5:11 pm 

    Why Assad culpability in gas attaksc makes no sense:
    He would want to stay alive at least
    Rule the country after this is over with some support from outside powers
    or be afforded safe passage to somewhere else at some stage after a change of regime.
    This would be the last thing he would do to try and achieve those goals.
    Its serves no ones interests to kill a hand full of people with gas, except his enemies.

    It doesnt add up logically

  21. Boat on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 6:21 pm 

    Onlooker,

    Syria is on the State Sponsers of Terror list. Any more to be said? Experiment with Google to see how they made the list.

  22. makati1 on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 6:22 pm 

    Onlooker, you are correct. Those are the reasons that the U$ got its nose in that country. $$$$$ Not ‘democracy’ or any other bullshit excuse. $$$$$

    The U$D is feeble and dying and any country that walks away from it is a target. Now China, Russia and Iran are too big to invade or pull some bullshit color revolution to stop the switch. The U$D is hitting that immovable wall as other countries join the exodus. Bring on the IMF currency and sideline the dollar.

  23. makati1 on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 6:25 pm 

    Boat, The U$ leads the list of state sponsored terrorism or the list is fake, bullshit, bogus. The U$ is the Number One terrorist organization in the world and has been for at least 70 years. The real world that is, not the one most Americans think they live in.

  24. onlooker on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 6:32 pm 

    Please Boat, official stats and lists are mostly bogus. I connect dots with real stories and various independent sources. None of the US mainstream media is independent
    Oh and Mak is right. US is top terrorist entity
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oedvLjaIwM
    Chomsky: US drone campaign is world’s biggest terrorist action (EXCLUSIVE)

  25. GregT on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 7:13 pm 

    “Syria is on the State Sponsers of Terror list. Any more to be said?”

    Yes. Why is Saudi Arabia not on that list, considering their alleged involvementin 9/11? Given the fact that Assad is fighting against ISIS and Islamic fundamentalist extremism, and the US has been supporting those same groups, why is Syria on that list, while the US is not?

    As per usual, more mainstream US propaganda BS.

  26. Boat on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 8:17 pm 

    greggiet,

    Obvious to say you rag head supporters would connect the dots differently. Doesn’t bother me. Free country till the they hunt you down.

    Onlooker, trying to avoid drones is just a way of life for those you support. Try to keep some space between you and them.

  27. ________________________________________ on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 10:08 pm 

    Trump is a piece of shit like the rest. If you think it matters who is president you’re a retard. Now lets pray to Ares that Russia does a first strike

  28. GregT on Sat, 8th Apr 2017 10:24 pm 

    “Obvious to say you rag head supporters would connect the dots differently.”

    I don’t support the Saudis Boat. The US government does, even with all of the evidence pointing to their involvement in 9/11, and apparently you do too.

    If you would be referring to Syrians with your derogatory “rag head” comment, then you reenforce my point once again about how fucking clueless that you are.

  29. joe on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 12:06 am 

    As I predicted, because Trump cant/wont keep his ‘America first’ promises, the next POTUS will be worse. Instead of tearing down globalisation as the cause of global jihad and climate change he has made the flash points worse. He called for a one state solution in Palestine and then rolled back, he has only had the benefit of a historically unusual low interest rate debt trend that is stopping a return of the Great Recession which has not really gone away, they are just trying to flush it out with debt back money. It seems for many that the only faith they have, is the Dow.
    Right now the West is begining a fight it could lose. Its a fight for its cultural soul, because it imported eastern ideologies of religion and attitudes. Our narrative is that we are open to integration (whatever that really means) and this is good for business. The other view is that we have socialism and free money for all and our people are effete and weak and need morals, islamic ones.

  30. GregT on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 1:58 am 

    “Its a fight for its cultural soul”

    You were doing quite well up until that point joe. The west does not have a cultural soul. The west is a melding pot of many different cultures, over a relatively short period of time.

    Islam, Russia, and the Far East, all have cultural souls going back for thousands of years before the West was even conceived.

  31. joe on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 2:18 am 

    Greg, the ‘west’ does indeed have a cultural soul, habeas corpus, laws of tort, common law and parliamentary democracy, judge made laws etc, these are so ubiquitous they go unnoticed and however poorly they work they are better than all the other systems. These are, however the true targets of radical islam. Before Louis 14th lost his head, Charles the first lost his. People are losing belief in the virtue of popular agreement, because the democratic revolution ended when the symbiotic ideas of incorporation and limited liability were codified into law. The result of this is the creation of a zoo of shares and markets and global exploitation, and the socialist push backs etc etc telling the sorry tale we know as the history of the last 200 years.

  32. MD on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 2:22 am 

    I stopped reading half way down this comment stream of paranoid speculation. You all are part of the problem. No solutions here at all. Nothing to see. Move along.
    (don’t bother responding. I have taken my own advice)

  33. joe on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 2:29 am 

    No you didn’t

  34. GregT on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 2:36 am 

    The West has only existed for a few hundred years joe, and in that relatively short period of time, western culture has exploited, and destroyed, not only hundreds of other cultures, but the natural world that gives every single one of us life. Far eastern cultures have been around for at least 5000 years, Islam around a thousand years before the West, and Middle Eastern cultures for many thousands of years before that. Russian culture has existed for at least 10,000 years.

    If western systems are so much better than all other systems of the past, then why are they failing so rapidly in comparison to all of the other cultures that have lasted for many thousands of years longer?

  35. Cloggie on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 2:37 am 

    You were doing quite well up until that point joe. The west does not have a cultural soul. The west is a melding pot of many different cultures, over a relatively short period of time.

    The West has very well a cultural soul of its own. The irony is that in an age of mass transport, that (secular) Christian soul is becoming the undoing of the West. The Christian impetus to “love everybody” will now lead to our final demise and subjugation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSv4vBcFyvo

    If we want to survive, and that’s what we want, we need to finally cleanse (excessive) Christian feelings from our soul and continue were we left off 2000 years ago, with Greek and Roman Antiquity. In fact we have no option, because if we don’t we are going to be a persecuted and in the end genocided minority. I would not put too much faith in the intentions of Chief Seattle and the rest of the non-whites. This is Darwinian planet earth and not the antechamber to heaven.

    Here we can see on a micro-level what will happen on a macro-level in the US and elsewhere in the West (soon to be re-branded The North):

    https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/850847708927709186

    A violent conflict between European-Americans on the one hand and white commie trash and imported hordes, led by the Soros/Apneaman types.

    The European-Americans are bound to lose that fight, just like they were in 1776, unless we in Europe, who like in 1776, still have the demographic upper-hand, can overthrow the US vassals in Europe first and motivate ourselves yet again to intervene in North-America on the side of the European-Americans. If we succeed we are going to have this Huntingtonian world:

    https://s17.postimg.org/6wwnomfpb/worldmap.jpg

    If we fail we are going to have this Huntingtonian world:

    http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/1984-thumb-465×215-17701-320-215.jpg

  36. Cloggie on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 3:09 am 

    Syria is on the State Sponsers of Terror list. Any more to be said?

    The junta from Tel-Aviv-on-the-Potomac is on my state-sponsored terrorism list since 1941, exactly in line with what makati said.

    Here are the real terrorists from WW2:

    http://tinyurl.com/l8kryhh

    In 1995, when I was still a (green) leftist-liberal money-making yuppie, I visited the beaches of Normandy on the occasion of the 50 year commemoration of the “liberation of Europe”. Churchill and the Americans were still heroes in my propaganda-saturated mind, as a consequence of living my entire life in the US empire… umm… make that the “free West”. Took the ferry to Dover and visited the “War Time Tunnels”:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dover_Castle#The_secret_wartime_tunnels

    Reading biography of Churchill in a Dover hotel room, all very Lili Marleen, that.

    [part 1]

  37. Cloggie on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 3:09 am 

    But by September 2001, my world view began to change profoundly. I believed the “19 Arabs with box-cutter” story for 3-4 years. Although that story was in hindsight fake (in reality it was Zionist, not Arab terrorism), it brought to the attention the rapidly growing Muslim demographic in the Netherlands and elsewhere in Europe and the less than beneficial consequences for our society. It was no coincidence that a homosexual Pim Fortuyn, living in very multicult Rotterdam, was the first to jump on a soap box and proclaim that we needed to halt further immigration from “backward Islam”. He would have become PM if he wasn’t stopped 14 days before the general election with a System sponsored hit. Here the desperate reaction of the Dutch Deplorables in Rotterdam, a few hours after the hit. Note the gleeful reaction of the Muslim trash at the end of the video. That reaction is similar to the ones on display after every single terrorist attack in European cities:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYV0hz4dquE

    That was the turning point for me to turn to what Americans call the “alt-right”. It began with podcasts from American right-wingers like Kevin Strom and William Pierce, began to study the origins of multiculturalism and it didn’t last too long to arrive a the J-question, WW2-revisionism, holotale and 911-trutherism. Was a Putin fan early on. The geopolitical outlook (Paris-Berlin-Moscow) was heavily influenced by this master article:

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2011/08/boreas-risingwhite-nationalism-the-geopolitics-of-the-paris-berlin-moscow-axis-part-1/

    …which brought me back to neo-Gaullism and an alliance between Europe and Russia.

    [part 2]

  38. Davy on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 3:31 am 

    “Russian culture has existed for at least 10,000 years.”

    What?

  39. Cloggie on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 3:41 am 

    Donald Trump exercising damage control with his right-wing fan-base:

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/donald-trump-warum-die-startbahn-in-syrien-nicht-bombardiert-wurde-a-1142535.html

    Trump claims that limited damage was intentional and that the runways were not damaged on purpose, not to hamper the efforts of the Syrian government in its fight against the “terrorists”.

    It was a reprimand against the “Sarin attack”.

    Great, The Donald apparently hasn’t been taken over complete by shadow Veep Kushner after all.

  40. makati1 on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 4:09 am 

    “In 2006, 1.5-million-year-old Oldowan flint tools were discovered in the Dagestan Akusha region of the north Caucasus, demonstrating the presence of early humans in Russia from a very early time.[4] The discovery of some of the earliest evidence for the presence of anatomically modern humans found anywhere in Europe was reported in 2007 from the deepest levels of the Kostenki archaeological site near the Don River in Russia, which has been dated to at least 40,000 years ago.” WIKI

    vs U$ dates…

    “Archaeologists contend that Paleo-Indian migration out of Beringia (eastern Alaska), ranges from 40,000 to around 16,500 years ago.[7][8][9][10] This time range is a hot source of debate and promises to continue as such for years to come. The few agreements achieved to date are the origin from Central Asia, with widespread habitation of the Americas during the end of the last glacial period, or more specifically what is known as the late glacial maximum, around 16,000 – 13,000 years before present” WIKI

    So American indians came from … Russia. LOL

    “The earliest archeological evidence for man in the (Philippine) archipelago is the 67,000-year-old Callao Man of Cagayan and the Angono Petroglyphs in Rizal, both of whom appear to suggest the presence of human settlement prior to the arrival of the Negritos and Austronesian speaking people.” WIKI

    America is a late comer to occupation of their lands. And the U$ is only yesterday.

  41. Cloggie on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 4:13 am 

    “Russian culture has existed for at least 10,000 years.”

    What?

    What Greg is probably referring to is the emergence of Aryan domesticated society in the plains of Southern Russia, which of course had nothing to do with Orthodox Russia culture (= Russian culture) originating from the 9th century. But I trust Greg is smart enough to know that.

    But Greg is still too (secular?) Christian to refer explicitly to all things racial; “Russian” is more PC and Greg is very PC on an emotional level, although he is too smart and too broadly educated not to know what is happening in the world.

  42. Davy on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 6:42 am 

    Right Clog but that makes the argument less dramatic.

  43. joe on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 9:37 am 

    Greg, sorry dude, Islam was not around before the ‘west’, its younger. Do you know that Muslims await the second coming of Jesus, right? They await the second coming so that Jesus can tell all Christians that hes only a man and they should never have followed him cause now they are doomed to hell, yet somehow this second coming of a dead man is supposed to kill (with his bare hands) the devil. Greg yes, laws and popular votes etc is better than loin cloths and slavery (which sharia law advocates want to bring back btw).
    Obviously its better, I never said it was sustainable. If sustainable is your goal, turn off everything especially whatever you use to write here and be change as Ghandi would say (Ghandi was a trained british lawyer and used those laws and customs to help create the worlds biggest democratic state). How much of what you think is old, actually is?

  44. Davy on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 9:56 am 

    If the drawdown of modern civilization materializes then there is many good points about sharia law. Let’s be careful slavery labeling as well. Modernism is an affluent form of slavery. We are trapped in a systematic arrangement where we must participate and we must succeed and if we don’t we are just economic sacrifices.

    One thing is certain about Sharia law and liberal democracy and that is they don’t mix. If we were wise we would build good fences and respect each other. It is likely respect is not possible until a human civil war of culture and economics runs its course. That will end globalism and the end of globalism is a die down and a power down.

    The optimistic side of this dreadful vision is this is a process and a very big world of many small locals. A variety of scenarios will play out. This is one reason why individuals who can should seek out safe locals to build their future of less in a place that offers more.

  45. Cloggie on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 10:13 am 

    (Ghandi was a trained british lawyer and used those laws and customs to help create the worlds biggest democratic state). How much of what you think is old, actually is?

    Gandhi remained in essence a Hindu and had little patience with British egalitarianism and strongly thought in caste system terms, a mode of thinking rejected today as “racist”, an Anglo-Zionist word if there ever was one:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-34265882

    And he had very un-British thoughts about what happened between 1933-1945, to say the least:

    http://tinyurl.com/z62lr76

    In India a white person is viewed very positively. I worked with many Indians in my career in international IT-projects. If they came fresh from India you first had to educate them that they didn’t need to stand up from their desks when I approached them to give work-instructions. And they lavishly praised European left-overs from the colonial era. It wasn’t all sliming for favors. The Hindu-system is free of resentment towards white Europeans.

    https://qz.com/951652/i-almost-feel-like-a-god-from-dating-to-business-white-men-are-winning-in-india/

  46. Davy on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 10:45 am 

    This is the 21st century and a literate Indian is as modern as a so-called European superman. If anything Asians are becoming hyper nationalistic which is understandable after centuries of European colonialism and racist attitudes (Americans included).

    There is a good side and bad side to racism. Respectful racism with borders both cultural and physical should be a future for a world unraveling. Current multiracial and cultural globalism is a luxury of the elite and privileged. It is not respectful becuase it has been hijacked by market based capitalism and psychopathic oligarchs. It is in fact backdoor racism of the worst kind because it is built upon lies and deception. It enslaves by putting a price on life and the planet.

  47. Apneaman on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 11:32 am 

    Davy, the Indians are a very racist people. Plenty of them on the Canadian west coast for 3-4 generations now. You will see whites and east Asian and white and native and white and black couples, often married with kids, but what you almost never see is a white and Indian couple. It’s obviously not the white folk opposed to such a relationship now is it? Maybe they don’t think white folk is good enough for them? Of course the Indian men have no problem fucking white girls, but they will never bring them home to meet the folks. Barbarians.

  48. DerHundistlos on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 11:32 am 

    President Trump’s Approval Ratings Just Hit Another Low-Downward Spiral Continues Unabated

    Updated: Apr 05, 2017 11:26 AM ET

    President Donald Trump’s approval ratings fell to 35% Tuesday — another new low for the president during his first months in office and a consistently record low for all US presidents in their first quarter. The average for all presidents is 63%.

    The approval ratings produced by Quinnipiac University are a drop from the last national poll, released March 22, which showed Trump’s approval at 37%. Trump’s ratings fall under former President Barack Obama’s lowest — 38% in 2013.

    According to the poll, the majority of Americans also believe the following about the president:

    “He is not honest”
    “He does not have good leadership skills”
    “He does not care about average Americans”
    “He is not level-headed”
    “He does not share their values”

    Additionally, 52% of voters say they are embarrassed to have Trump as president, according to the poll.

    “President Donald Trump continues to struggle, even among his most loyal supporters,” said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll, in a statement. “Many of them would be hard pressed to see even a silver lining in this troubling downward spiral.”

    The poll also found the plurality of Americans disapprove of Trump’s handling of the following issues: the environment, the economy, foreign policy, terrorism and immigration issues. Only 28% of Americans approved of his handling of healthcare about a week after House Republicans failed to pass their Obamacare replacement plan.

  49. Davy on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 11:45 am 

    Ape man, all people are racist and it is those who think they are not that are often the biggest ones. There are plenty of Indians here in Missouri too. Missouri is a healthcare center. Many Indian doctors in St. Louis. They are a culturally strict people. You can call that racist if you like but that is your interpretation. Maybe you are projecting you west coast Canadian attitudes on your interpretation of Indians culture. Besides there are a billion plus Indians kinda hard to generalize.

  50. Cloggie on Sun, 9th Apr 2017 11:52 am 

    Ape man, all people are racist and it is those who think they are not that are often the biggest ones.

    Apy is the biggest racist of them all and he knows it, not that I care:

    http://peakoil.com/publicpolicy/how-shale-is-reshaping-the-world-three-new-wars/comment-page-2#comment-319420

    I guess the Jews have bested you and everyone else right? There are so few of them that they must be the real supermen to dominate like they do. Why not stop your struggling and bow down to your betters? To the superior race? Is there some measure of superiority that I’m missing? The most powerful are the most powerful. The cream rises to the top. Survival of the fittest and all that. You only look like a sore loser not being able to accept your inferiority. It’s simply the natural order of things. Y’all been trying to rub them people out for over 2000 years and yet they still your overlords.
    Da Jews R # 1 Da Jews R # 1 Da Jews R # 1 Da Jews R # 1 Da Jews R # 1 Da Jews R # 1 Da Jews R # 1

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