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A report citing an unnamed aide to President Trump has suggested that the only reason that the US has not because embroiled in military conflict with Iran is because Rand Paul has the President’s ear on foreign policy and is offsetting the parade of war hawk neocons circling Trump.
The report, published by Politico, notes that Trump’s national security advisor John Bolton was a staunch proponent of regime change in Iran, as was Secretary of State Mike Pompeoand Secretary of Defense James Mattis.
All three have embraced the neocon position of preventive military action, but now have allstated publicly that the US will not seek regime change in Iran.
Is @RandPaul singlehandedly preventing war with Iran? Rand Paul Against the World | The American Conservative https://t.co/m4o5T7zVdC via @amconmag
— Jack Hunter (@jackhunter74) August 10, 2018
The Politico report suggests that this is all down to Rand Paul.
“While Trump tolerates his hawkish advisers, the [Trump] aide added, he shares a real bond with Paul: ‘He actually at gut level has the same instincts as Rand Paul…’.”
The report further notes that “Trump has stopped short of calling for regime change even though Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Secretary of Defense James Mattis, and Bolton support it, aligning with Paul instead, according to a GOP foreign policy expert in frequent contact with the White House.”
The source indicates that “’Rand Paul has persuaded the president that we are not for regime change in Iran… because adopting that position would instigate another war in the Middle East.”
The source also claims that Rand Paul and Trump share a common enjoyment of poking fun at the war hawks.
“The Kentucky senator and the commander-in-chief have bonded over a shared delight in thumbing their noses at experts the president likes to deride as ‘foreign policy eggheads,’ including those who work in his own administration.” the report states.
Last week Paul led a diplomatic trip to Russia, to deliver a letter from Trump to Vladimir Putin’s administration.
I was honored to deliver a letter from President Trump to President Vladimir Putin’s administration. The letter emphasized the importance of further engagement in various areas including countering terrorism, enhancing legislative dialogue and resuming cultural exchanges.
— Senator Rand Paul (@RandPaul) August 8, 2018
“It’s gotten so ridiculous that someone has to stand up and say we should try to engage even our adversaries and open up our lines of communication,” Paul said, adding “If you meet with the Russian ambassador, somehow you’re a traitor.”
Good interview with Don Huffines on our trip to Russia. https://t.co/SsUGd9vLYP
— Senator Rand Paul (@RandPaul) August 13, 2018
There is no doubt that Paul is being favored by Trump on foreign policy, and may even be potentially being positioned for a prime role in his administration.
Of course, had Hillary Clinton won the election, she who oversaw the disastrous Libya intervention, this would certainly not have been the case.
It appears that Rand Paul is the only real peace maker in Washington, fending off a slurry of war hawks all eager to embroil Trump and the US in more military quagmire.
“Diplomacy is not the opposite of toughness. It is the result of a clear-eyed understanding that foreign relations are painted in shades of gray, that negotiating with reprehensible people and regimes is often the least bad option.” https://t.co/VTHcGWoUSQ
— Senator Rand Paul (@RandPaul) August 8, 2018
143 Comments on "Rand Paul Is Single-handedly Preventing War With Iran"
JuanP on Tue, 14th Aug 2018 8:19 pm
Delusional Davy “Nedernazi, please show us the content instead of lying to us about what is said.”
Pay attention, guys! The board’s moderator and qualifier has spoken! You’d better do as he says! ROFLMFAO! What a pathetic fuck he is!
Boat on Tue, 14th Aug 2018 8:28 pm
JaunP
You Trump supporter. How is that trip to N Korea going. Hillary would have paddled that Jung U’m ass by now. On a good Trump note. All your fav countries have their currencies dropping like a rock. Turkey, Iran, Russia, China.
makati1 on Tue, 14th Aug 2018 8:30 pm
JuanP, Davy is so sick, there is not hope for him. I wish there was a site moderator here who would kick him and his sock puppets out so some honest debate could happen without their arrogant,immature, delusional bullshit.
Boney Joe on Tue, 14th Aug 2018 10:22 pm
Sum:
Shah رجوع شود به.
Boney Joe on Tue, 14th Aug 2018 10:26 pm
DavyDonaldTurd (DDT):
Just when I think you have hit rock bottom, new spewage is emitted from your various orifices.
Sum on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 12:16 am
Davy,
The love of birth country (home) will never changes, it is like the love anyone have to their mother.
Religion is a whole other story, I gave mine up without any problem, still and will love my country of birth to death and that is the reason I will be fighting the corrupt Mafia regime in Iran with tooth and nail until a democratic government can form. I think it is a great honor anyone to sacrifice their life for their beliefs and country.
Cloggie on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 12:48 am
Sum is acting like a sort of forum-Chalibi, interested in exploiting the US army for the purpose of regime change in Iran, so he and his secular palls can take over the tax farm from the Mullahs and he corrected identified closet-jingoist Davy as the proper person to address. Anything that sets the fleet sailing out of the harbor makes Davy’s heart tick faster. Violence behind the pretext of fighting for a “good cause”, that’s America for ya.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Chalabi
Sum on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 1:20 am
Cloggie, I think your brain cells been clogged, I responded because Davy has questioned. You do not need to tell me who Chalabi is, he was groomed by Islamic republic of terrorist Mullahs for the purpose he served. The only help it is appropriate from any outsider for Iran is to help Fragmented opposition to put aside their differences (for now) and create a government in exile, the only reason the opposition is fragmented is because of operatives of Terrorists regime and paid proxies like you. Any citizen who has been dehumanized and not allowed to speak through ballet boxes is allowed to defend itself with any means he feels appropriate. Unfortunately Russians (masters of the Mafia regime) has their grip over Mullah’s, everyone knows what happened in the Czechoslovakia, Poland, and all of the Eastern Europe, their asses will be kicked out of Iran also.
Anonymouse1 on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 1:23 am
I vote JuanP for board neuter…er, neuterzier
neuterist. You know what I mean.
He’d deport all the retards, extremists, sock-puppets and dumb-asses and send their sorry asses back to the mobile home parks and ‘farms’ (lol) they came from. In fact, he would clean this place up in less time than it takes the exceptionalturd to peck out one of his rambling, boring diatribes.
You know, the ones everyone skips over when they see his name.
Juan 2018. A neuter….er, we can believe in.
Sum on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 1:31 am
Another paid Ass earning his money for today, he gets paid by each post, did they increase you pay (Mullah’s currency has dropped badley , it does not worth a shit)
makati1 on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 3:14 am
Sum, if you are truly Iranian and want a different government, then do it yourself and do not rely on others to do it for you.
If you expect my country to make it better for you, look at Iraq, Libya or even Syria for your answer. The Us only destroys. It doesn’t build.
As far as “democracy” goes, be careful what you wish for. True democracy does not, and never did, exist. Not even in the US.
Cloggie on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 3:18 am
Hou have opinions about peak oil too, Sum?
“Unfortunately Russians (masters of the Mafia regime) has their grip over Mullah’s, everyone knows what happened in the Czechoslovakia, Poland, and all of the Eastern Europe, their asses will be kicked out of Iran also.”
So far the Russians kicked US ass in Syria and greatly enhanced the Iranian sphere of influence all the to Lebanon, Zero Sum. I think you are a dreamer and don’t get me started on Yemen.lol
And then there is Turkey, not an enemy of Iran, that is about to leave the West. Erdogan + Iran could team up and destroy the Saudi regime, with approval of Russia and China.
Davy on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 6:31 am
“Davy, Religion is a whole other story, I gave mine up without any problem, still and will love my country of birth to death and that is the reason I will be fighting the corrupt Mafia regime in Iran with tooth and nail until a democratic government can form. I think it is a great honor anyone to sacrifice their life for their beliefs and country.”
One does not have to give up religion or take it up. One needs to place it properly within a life system where it belongs. Both of the extreme sides of the equation are off the mark in my book. I am personally a spiritual person which includes respect for the best of all religions and an inclusion of nature especially the view of Native Americans.
Davy on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 6:38 am
“Sum is acting like a sort of forum-Chalibi, interested in exploiting the US army for the purpose of regime change in Iran, so he and his secular palls can take over the tax farm from the Mullahs and he corrected identified closet-jingoist Davy as the proper person to address. Anything that sets the fleet sailing out of the harbor makes Davy’s heart tick faster. Violence behind the pretext of fighting for a “good cause”, that’s America for ya.”
Like I said yesterday you sound so stupid when you try to be dramatic nederliar. Where have I approved of the current unipolar policies of the US? Please show a comment. I am against much of the proxy fights in the world today the only problem is others are doing it so I don’t believe in a drop the bog stick and run. There has to be a negotiated withdraw of all parties into some kind of arrangement that give all powers their back yard to play in and protection from any one power becoming too powerful. The US is too extended right now and needs to withdraw. How that occurs is the big question without easy answers.
print baby print on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 6:38 am
Cloggie
Usa did occupy Iraq . It is ine thing to occupy and completely another keep that country quiet.
Davy on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 6:41 am
“Sum, if you are truly Iranian and want a different government, then do it yourself and do not rely on others to do it for you.”
One thing about Sum he is authentic and represent Iran unlike you scum bags that try to attack a real thing because he is not talking like you approve of.
Davy on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 6:47 am
“I vote JuanP for board neuter…er, neuterzier neuterist. You know what I mean.”
You ever notice how Asperger never debates the topic. All he can talk about is Jew baiting and extreme forms of anti-Americanism when he attempts a real comment. I am not sure he has much depth to his intellect. He sure does not prove it with comments. He is a social media type who talks Facebook talk. He obsessively talks about sock puppets like that is a big deal. Phony Juan, his buddy, does it constantly with Boney joe but Asperger like that because they are buddies. Asperger never debates the topic he always place the social media game. He is a noise source. Here is his last comment I have that was an attempt at a comment:
“Anonymouse1 on Sat, 28th Jul 2018 2:02 pm”
Other than that this stupid ugly Canadian millennial anti-American says close to nothing generally. He just mucks up the board with stupidity.
Davy on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 6:54 am
“So far the Russians kicked US ass in Syria and greatly enhanced the Iranian sphere of influence all the to Lebanon, Zero Sum. I think you are a dreamer and don’t get me started on Yemen.lol”
Neder, nobody won in Syria. Syria is a destroyed state and if Russia would not have supported a corrupt regime then Syria would never have been in the position where the US and Israel could destroy it. It is ugly what the corrupt part of the US government did in Syria. It was a treasure of a country with wonderful historical places that are now rubble. This was more than Americana destroying a country. This country destroyed itself also because it did not properly treat its majority. Russia assisted that and it deserves blame. The most blame goes to the US for facilitating and enabling an awful civil war that almost turned the ME into a quagmire. Syria is lost for everyone. Russia is sitting with a client state that needs to be rebuilt and protected. More money for Putin to come up with along with his remilitarization. That money could be spent on the Russian people who need it.
Antius on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 8:41 am
Was Hillary the real colluder?
” Russia Investigation: It’s beginning to look as if claims of monstrous collusion between Russian officials and U.S. political operatives were true. But it wasn’t Donald Trump who was guilty of Russian collusion. It was Hillary Clinton and U.S. intelligence officials who worked with Russians and others to entrap Trump. ”
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-15/was-hillary-real-colluder
You couldn’t make this shit up! I take it that the FBI will be pressing charges?
Davy on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 9:00 am
shhhh, antius, the extremist liberals here will shit a cow.
JuanP on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 10:56 am
According to Delusional Davy, the USA is not responsible for Syria’s destruction, no, the Syrians are. LOL! And, apparently liberals are extremists, too, not just the “anti-Americans. Basically, according to the Exceptionalist, if he disagrees with you then you are an extremist. It must make sense to him, I guess his views are all moderate since he is “The Moderator”. ROFLMFAO!
Davy on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 12:35 pm
According to Delusional Davy, the USA is not responsible for Syria’s destruction, no, the Syrians are.
Phony Juan, Liar, read the comment again. Liars need references because their words can’t be trusted.
Cloggie on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 12:52 pm
Usa did occupy Iraq . It is ine thing to occupy and completely another keep that country quiet
They never occupied Iraq in its entirety. US troops went from insurgency to insurgency. They could not pacify Iraq. In the end they were essentially thrown out.
According to Delusional Davy, the USA is not responsible for Syria’s destruction, no, the Syrians are. LOL!
As I said before, Davy is willing to cover up for all the crimes of the empire and attacks anybody who accuses the US of predatory behavior of “extremism”, which he intends to “neuter” and “moderate”, with little to no success. 9/11, Iraq, Syria, Ukraine, Russia-obsession, regardless. Dindunuffin.
The US oligarchs want to own the planet, as they are not satisfied with the US alone. That is why they spends half of the global budget on “defense”, namely to attempt to conquer the rest, while advertising itself as the “indispensable nation”, portraying the rest of the world as a bunch of Hitlers:
https://goo.gl/images/AeCJmC
“rest of the world”, warning graphic.
Fortunately they are running out of steam (not in the least because the US is turning into a third world country a little too early.lol) and other parties are rapidly growing in strength and have taken precaution by setting up a counter alliance (SCO).
[part 1]
Cloggie on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 12:52 pm
Regarding Syria… Syria is part of a longtime plan, originating from the nineties, after the USSR was defeated and the US thought it only had to mop up the rest of the planet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw
They even went so far as to organize 9/11 for it to create the pretext to invade Mesopotamia. Reason: grab most of the world’s oil sources and own the planet:
https://deepresource.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/strategicellipse.png
Nice try, but it failed.
Instead Iraq was handed over to the sphere of influence of Iran, definitely not a member of the US empire.
The US tried to roll back Iranian influence in Syria, by hiring jihadis, just like they had done in Afghanistan to drive the Soviets out. The Emir of Qatar admitted as much:
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/11/05/qatar-admits-us-turkey-ksa-qatar-conspired-in-syrian-war/
Now Iranian influence ranges from Tehran to the Mediterranean and Israeli border, not in the least thanks to Vlad, who came to the rescue of an almost defeated Assad. Hardly ever in world history was so much achieved with relatively so few (Russian) resources.
[part 2]
Davy on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 12:53 pm
[part 2]
“EM, China Contagion Goes Systemic”
https://tinyurl.com/y7jco4pg
“As Gluskin Sheff’s David Rosenberg notes, “No contagion, eh? The only folks that can’t see it in the FX and commodity markets spend too much of their day gazing at the SPX and Russell 2000. There is no decoupling, just lags.” However, even more seriously, the contagion has spread to the banking system…European bank stocks have just entered a bear market… as fears over Turkey spread. And the world’s most systemically important banks just tumbled to their weakest since…If there’s no contagion from tightening financial conditions, then explain that collapse!!”
“systemically important banks”
https://tinyurl.com/ya833tg6
Davy on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 12:54 pm
[part 3]
spamming is noise
GregT on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 7:21 pm
“spamming is noise”
Agreed. Hell, even your new favorite extremist lying liberal website rationalwiki agrees.
“Zero Hedge is a batshit insane Austrian school finance blog run by two pseudonymous founders who post articles under the name “Tyler Durden,” after the character from Fight Club.Wikipedia’s W.svg It’s essentially apocalypse porn. It has accurately predicted 200 of the last 2 recessions.”
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge
So why do you continue to spread their spam, troll?
Davy on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 7:32 pm
It was so nice having your ugly noise off the board Greggie. You stupid troll. I see you are back to normal behavior, trolling instead of on topic intelligent comments.
GregT on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 7:39 pm
Too busy to post these days troller boy. Like they say; “Make hay while the sun shines.”
I’ll be back in full force in a few weeks. Looking forward to it. 🙂
Sum on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 7:42 pm
Dav
““Sum, if you are truly Iranian and want a different government, then do it yourself and do not rely on others to do it for you.”
Nleive me we will do it ourselves, the only help welcomed is asked was help Opposition to UNITE (remember united we stand, divided we will fall).
The Mafia regime has given 50% of the Caspian sea for 11% and probably a guaranty from Putin to remain in power. This is treason, Iranians sooner or later will have them hung by their balls if they are lucky, the fight is starting. These bastards are doomed in my books.
Davy on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 7:48 pm
Greggie, go make your hay. It is good you are finally doing something with your boring bitch life.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 7:51 pm
Marx: Broke, living in exile, fucks so much he has 7 kids.
Hitler: Dictator of most of mainland Europe, still can’t fuck. 0 kids.
https://imgur.com/a/DMqT4td
Davy on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 7:53 pm
Sum, I am glad you are here. I have a lot of respect for Iranians. There are many in the states. Your women are some of the finest looking in the world. Keep up the good work. A word of caution, there are multiple extremist here who like the current Iranian regime. They like it because they hate Americans.
Anonymouse1 on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 7:58 pm
RoFL, what a mental case. ‘Sum’ is probably one of yours. Even more ridiculous, is the notion that you know any, or anything about Persian women.
dumbass.
Davy on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 8:01 pm
What is funnier is if you have ever had a woman. I bet all you do is beat off to gay porn. Your name is Asperger for a reason, stupid.
DerHundistLos on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 8:02 pm
Greetings and salutations Brother Greg!!!!!
Sum on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 8:03 pm
Davy,
You are right some of them somehow are getting fed from Mullahs, bastards they preach and force Iranian women to wear monkey close and their bastard children got green cards with 500k during Obama admin ware bikinis. I look down on those and tell them if you do not like it here why you don’t go back.
DerHundistLos on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 8:06 pm
“It is good you are finally doing something with your boring bitch life.”
I have learned that every ugly statement emanating from Davy is actually directed at himself. He suffers from the most extreme case of self-loathing.
GregT on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 8:07 pm
“A word of caution, there are multiple extremist here who like the current Iranian regime. They like it because they hate Americans.”
Everything to you, troller boy, is either pro, or anti-American. Some people would simply prefer NOT to see hundreds of thousands more innocent people brutally murdered. But no doubt, the ZOG of the USA is going to give it their best shot, as per usual. Expect one more failed state, a mass exodus of millions of innocents, and yet another massive blood fest. All in the name of national defence. What a sad fucking joke, troller boy.
Davy on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 8:12 pm
Der hund, shut up you stupid old man and say something. All you are doing today is enabling anti-American trolls. Move to Canada where you belong.
makati1 on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 8:14 pm
“I have learned that every ugly statement emanating from Davy is actually directed at himself. He suffers from the most extreme case of self-loathing.”
Right on Der, Davy has a mirror. He just has to look at all of his accusations here to see himself. He sees his empire crumbling around him, has no useful skills to survive its end, and alienates anyone who might help him.
Davy on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 8:14 pm
Shut up greggie, your stupid country is complicit, hypocrite. The most hypocritical people on earth are stupid Canadians. We need a wall with you backstabbers.
Davy on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 8:16 pm
Slip slidin, you and Der hund being old and senile belong together. Why don’t you Facebook each other and talk about your ailments.
JuanP on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 8:25 pm
Delusional Davy “Der hund, shut up you stupid old man and say something.”
You are really losing it, Exceptionalist, Der can shut up OR say something, but nobody can do both. I fear for the twins with such a deranged father!
JuanP on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 8:29 pm
Delusional Davy “A word of caution, there are multiple extremist here who like the current Iranian regime.”
I wonder if the Exceptionalist understands the difference between singular and plural. Every single day he uses the singular “extremist” when he should use the plural “extremists”. Every single fucking day!
makati1 on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 8:36 pm
JuanP, correct English seems to be declining in a number of forum comments. Maybe it is too many sock puppets of the same uneducated goatherd?
We understand Boat’s problems and a few who do not have English as a native language, but for those who claim to live in the Us, there is no excuse.
Davy on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 8:41 pm
You trolls deserve to be disrespected. You come on here and don’t say anything worth reading. You are gangbanging trolls here to feel important with your group of pathetic individuals.
Davy on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 8:46 pm
Slip slidin, you heard what myth buster thinks of you and your message. You are here to feel companionship with your anti-American gang of goons. Truthfulness doesn’t matter to you. It is a package of lies you peddle. Disgusting
GregT on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 9:00 pm
“Shut up greggie, your stupid country is complicit, hypocrite. The most hypocritical people on earth are stupid Canadians. We need a wall with you backstabbers.”
My username on this forum is not greggie, Canada does not belong to me, and it makes no difference to me who is doing the mass murdering. I will always speak out against it, unlike you troller boy. You are an enabler. You people deserve to be stabbed directly in the chest.
makati1 on Wed, 15th Aug 2018 9:21 pm
GregT, stabbed only AFTER slow torture like I read about how they treated similar people in ancient Egypt.
They slowly skinned a prisoner alive during interrogation and then tied him/her to a huge, dry bush. Covered it with oil and set it on fire. Or, they placed a pointed stake in the ground and lowered the person alive down unto it, piercing the body thru the anus and then out the rib cage. Slow death all. The lucky ones got to drink poison.
Mankind has always used various forms of torture to control it’s enemies. There are those who still deserve it. Those who rabidly support the terrorist government of the US. I am sure there are thousands of North Koreans, Vietnamese, Iraqis, Libyans, Afghans, etc. That would line up to have the chance to do it to those who illegally invaded their countries and killed their friends and family.