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Orlov: Defeat is Victory

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On the wall of George Orwell’s Ministry of Truth from his novel 1984 there were three slogans:

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

It occurred to me that these apply just a little bit too well to the way the Washington, DC establishment operates.

War certainly is peace: just look at how peaceful Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Syria and the Ukraine have become thanks to their peacemaking efforts. The only departures from absolute peacefulness which might be taking place there have to do with the fact that there are some people still alive there. This should resolve itself on its own, especially in the Ukraine, where the people now face the prospect of surviving a cold winter without heat or electricity.

Freedom is indeed slavery: to enjoy their “freedom,” Americans spend most of their lives working off debt, be it a mortgage, medical debt incurred due to an illness, or student loans. Alternatively, they can also enjoy it by rotting in jail. They also work longer hours with less time off and worse benefits than in any other developed country, and their wages haven’t increased in two generations.

And what keeps it all happening is the fact that ignorance is indeed strength; if it wasn’t for the Americans’ overwhelming, willful ignorance of both their own affairs and the world at large, they would have rebelled by now, and the whole house of cards would have come tumbling down.

But there is a third slogan they need to add to the wall of Washington’s Ministry of Truth. It is this:

DEFEAT IS VICTORY

The preposterous nature of the first three slogans can be finessed away in various ways. It’s awkward to claim that American involvements in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Syria or the Ukraine have produced “peace,” exactly, but various lying officials and assorted national teletubbies still find it possible to claim that they somehow averted worse (totally made-up) dangers like Iraqi/Syrian “weapons of mass destruction.” What they have produced is endless war financed by runaway debt which is leading to economic ruin. But ignorance helps a lot here.

Likewise, it is possible, though a bit awkward, to claim that slavery is freedom—because, you see, once you have discharged your duties as a slave, can go home and read whatever crazy nonsense you want on some blog or other. This is of course silly; you can stuff your head with whatever “knowledge” you like, but if you try acting on it you will quickly discover that you aren’t allowed to. “Back in line, slave!” You can also take the opposite tack and claim that freedom is for layabouts while we the productive people have to rush from one scheduled activity to another, and herd our children around in the same manner, avoiding “unstructured time” like a plague, and that this is not at all like slavery. Not at all. Not even close. Nobody tells me what to do! (Looks down at smartphone to see what’s next on today’s to-do list).

With ignorance, you don’t even have to make the case: ignorant people are some of the most knowledgeable people on earth—according to them. I see that all the time in the hundreds of blog comments I delete; ones that start with “Surely you must know that [something I don’t know]” or “By now it should be clear to everyone that [something unclear]” are particularly amusing. On some days I find such ignorance almost overpowering, and so ignorance is indeed strength.

But it is very hard to claim that defeat is victory, and herein lies a great challenge for the Washington, DC establishment. When they are victorious, your leaders get to have their way with the world; when they are defeated, the world has its way with them. This is something that is hard to hide: your leaders say what it is they want to do; and then they either succeed at it or fail. When they fail, they still try to call it a success, but if you look at their original statements of purpose, and then the results, and the two don’t match at all, then it looks just a bit like a defeat-ish sort of thingy no matter how they writhe and squirm and twist. This is a good thing, because with all the propaganda the Ministry of Truth puts out, it is hard for the average person to ascertain the nature of the “facts on the ground.” But when it comes to victory vs. defeat, you can usually take it straight from the horse’s rectum. Yes, the Ministry’s public relations consultants can still claim that “we forced the enemy to give us a free deep-tissue massage of our glutei maximi,” but a precocious 8th-grader can still decode that to “We got our asses kicked.”

So, allow me to enumerate some American victories. Or should I say defeats? Your choice; the two are the same.

• Thanks to the trillion or so spent on the war effort, the 1.5 million Iraqi casualties, and the 5,000 dead US soldiers, there is no longer any al Qaeda in Iraq now (just like there was under Saddam Hussein) and the country is free and democratic.
• Thanks to many years of continuous effort which cost well over half a trillion dollars and the lives of 3500 or so coalition soldiers, the Taleban in Afghanistan have been vanquished and the country is now at peace.
• The Syrian regime has been overthrown and Syria is now peaceful and democratic, and not at all a war-torn basket case that has produced over a million refugees, a large part of it ruled by Islamic militants that are too radical even for al Qaeda.
• Overall, the problem of Islamic extremism has been dealt with once for all, and George W. Bush’s “Islamofascists” (remember that term?) are but a vague memory. ISIS or ISIL or the Islamic State are something else entirely, plus us bombing them sporadically at great expense has “degraded” them a tiny bit… maybe.
• Thanks to a perfectly legal and very necessary US-managed coup, Ukraine is on its way to being a stable and prosperous member of the EU and NATO, and the freedom-loving Ukrainians are no longer at all dependent on Russian gas, coal and nuclear fuel for being able to merely survive the winter of 2014-15, or on Russian good will to send in humanitarian relief convoys, house and feed the refugees from their civil war, or broker their peace agreements with each other.
• In accordance with our grand geopolitical strategy for eternal world domination, we successfully kicked Russia out of Crimea and are busy building a huge NATO military base there to make sure that Russia never becomes a great world power again but is forced to comply with our every whim.
• Thanks to our relentless diplomatic efforts, Russia is now completely isolated, which is why it can’t be constantly signing gigantic trade agreements with countries around the world or championing the cause of non-western nations who don’t like being pushed around by the west and have no desire to westernize.
• Our sanctions have really hurt Russia, and not at all the EU which didn’t lose a huge export market and is not at all at risk of losing access to Russia’s natural gas which it doesn’t need anyway. Nor did they provide any sort of a huge protectionist benefit to Russia’s domestic producers, or a big new export market to our economic rivals.
• Regime change in Moscow is a white ribbon’s throw away, and our expensively nurtured political pets inside Russia are more popular than ever and are feeling all sorts of love from the Russian people. After all, fewer than 90% of Russians respect and support Putin for the great things he has achieved for them, so our stooges like Khodorkovsky or Kasparov should have no problem getting at least 1% in the next presidential elections, sending them straight into the Kremlin.
• Thanks to our relentless political pressure, Putin is now a chastised man, ready to be reasonable and bend to our will, and not at all saying things like “This will never happen!” in an internationally televised annual address to his nation’s elected leaders. In any case, nobody listens to his speeches because our national media doesn’t need cover them because they are so long and boring.

…and, last but not least…

• America is the world’s indispensable nation, world’s (second) greatest economic power (but rising fast), and American leadership is respected throughout the world. When President Obama said so in a recent speech he gave in China, the audience did not at all laugh out loud right in his face, roll their eyes, make faces or move their heads side to side slowly while frowning.

How can you avoid recognizing the importance of such things, and the fact that they spell DEFEAT? Easy! Ignorance to the rescue! Ignorance is not just strength—it is the most awesome force in the universe. Consider this: knowledge is always limited and specific, but ignorance is infinite and completely general; knowledge is hard to convey, and travels no faster than the speed of light, but ignorance is instantaneous at all points in the known and unknown universe, including alternate universes and dimensions of whose existence we are entirely ignorant. In short, there is a limit to how much you can know, but there is no limit at all to how much you don’t know but think you do!

Here is something that you probably think you know. The American empire is an “empire of chaos.” Yes, it sort of fails somehow to achieve peace, prosperity, democracy, stability, avert humanitarian crises, or stop lots of horrible crimes. But it does achieve chaos. What’s more, it achieves a wunnerful new type of chaos just invented, called “controlled chaos.” It’s much better than the old kind; sort of like “clean coal”—which you can rub all over yourself, go ahead, try it! Yes, there are naysayers out there that say things like “You reap what you sow, and if you sow chaos, you shall reap chaos.” I guess they just don’t like chaos. To each his own. Whatever.

Want more? Consider this. If you live in the US, you probably celebrated Thanksgiving a little while ago, by gorging yourself on turkey and stuffing with cranberry sauce, and maybe some pumpkin pie. You think you know that this holiday is related to the Pilgrims, who first celebrated Thanksgiving at Plymouth, Massachusetts, but I am sure you don’t remember the exact year. But I am sure you think that these Pilgrims celebrated Thanksgiving by feasting with the natives. You might even tell your children this story, and think that you are teaching them a bit of history rather than expanding their field of ignorance.

Now, here are some points of fact. The Pilgrims weren’t Pilgrims at all, but colonists. They were re-branded as “Pilgrims” in the 19th century. Believe me, nobody ever went on a pilgrimage to Plymouth, Massachusetts! These colonists ended up there because, being incompetent sailors, they missed Boston Harbor by half a day’s sail, and ended up in Plymouth Harbor, which is as exposed, shoal and as useless today as it was then. They did not celebrate Thanksgiving; being weird religious zealots, they didn’t even celebrate Christmas. Despite fake “evidence” from “social media” of the period, they certainly didn’t feast with the locals, who by that time spoke pretty good English and traded with the world. The locals thought these colonists were a bizarre religious cult (which indeed they were), that they were lousy and smelly (they never washed and had no idea about saunas or sweat lodges) and had repulsive personal habits (such as carrying their snot around with them wrapped in a rag). They were also quite hopeless at hunting or fishing, and survived by plundering the locals’ kitchen gardens, then starved. To top it off, the “national” holiday was first created by Abraham Lincoln during the height of the Civil War, which (this you must surely know!) was much, much later. And he didn’t call it “Thanksgiving”; he called it “Day of Atonement” for the horrible crimes Americans were committing against each other at the time.

But that’s before the Frozen Turkey Marketing Association had a go at adjusting that story. It was a plan as simple as it is brilliant: they overdose you on Tryptophan, then, next day, while you are still groggy, they send you out into an over-hyped shopping frenzy and, sure enough,  you will be rack up some high-interest debt, which it will take you well into the next year to pay off. Plow some of that interest back into turkeys and holiday hype, and you have a national industry—one that drives people into debt buying imported products they don’t need (remember, if doesn’t say “Made in China” then it’s probably fake) until everybody is broke.

With a history that fake, the American Ministry of Truth may yet manage to project it into the future as well. They may produce a level of ignorance so astonishingly high that Americans at large won’t know that they have been defeated, thinking that the torrential downpour of the world’s rancid slops raining down on their heads is God’s rain, and being thankful for it. Unless, that is, enough Americans wake up and start making the word DEFEAT part of the national vocabulary. This is not a exceptional nation, not an indispensable nation, but a defeated one. Defeated by their own hands, mind you, because nobody particularly went out of their way to defeat them. They showed up to get beaten, over and over again, until they got what they came for.

Now, defeat has proven to be a great learning experience to many countries that then went on to be quite successful: Germany (on second try), Japan, Russia after the Cold War… Of course, the first step in that learning process is to admit defeat. But if you don’t want to do that, that’s OK, because there is always ignorance to give you all the strength you need.

Club Orlov



25 Comments on "Orlov: Defeat is Victory"

  1. Makati1 on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 6:33 am 

    “This is not a exceptional nation, not an indispensable nation, but a defeated one.”

    Kinda sums up the world’s perception of America today.

  2. penury on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 9:27 am 

    Rhis article reeks of truthiness and will invoke the ire of the usual suspects.

  3. Dave Thompson on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 9:35 am 

    I get the distinct impression Orlov is trying to tell us Americans something?

  4. Donuts on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 9:46 am 

    I don’t know. This doesn’t agree with what I was taught in the second grade. I’m suspicious.

  5. Davy on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 10:09 am 

    This is not an exceptional global world, not an indispensable global system but a defeated one.

    There you go boys is that how you clean up doo doo from propaganda bitches with fairness and balance.

  6. J-Gav on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 10:53 am 

    Maybe the ‘defeat’ needs to be total before anything close to a majority begins to comprehend the situation.

    For the moment, that doesn’t keep a rather vibrant alternative U.S. media from continuously pointing out the shortcomings of our present dead-end imperial stances.

    There are many worse places to be in the world than the United States, even if the gap is closing. That’s why so many still clamor to get there at risk of life and limb. The same could be said of Europe.

    But there will come a point when the programmed and ongoing immiseration of the many for the benefit of the few will lead to great social upheaval, even in the “ignorant” USA.

  7. Northwest Resident on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 11:13 am 

    Makati1 — More correctly, it sums up your perception of America today, not the world’s. You often pose as a self-appointed representative of the world’s opinion, but then use your self-appointed world spokesperson’s status to express opinions that are only yours. Like noob who lumps all Americans together as if they were a single contiguous group in his insane rants, you like to pretend that the entire world holds your exact same views and opinions, when that is most definitely not the case. You should have said “Kinda sums up MUCH OF the world’s perception of America today.”

  8. Northwest Resident on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 11:46 am 

    What Orlov conveniently fails to mention is that when Germany (on second try), Japan, Russia after the Cold War went on to be quite successful after suffering defeat, their defeat was at the hands of America, and it was America who substantially guided and financially aided those countries in resurrecting themselves from defeat. China and the Philippines, two countries with currently growing economies, also benefited substantially from significant American investment and managerial expertise. But hey, let’s now say anything good about America — that defeats the whole “America is pure evil” narrative that some people (like Orlov) are so heavily invested in.

  9. Apneaman on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 1:44 pm 

    Thanks America for single handily fighting and winning WWI, WWII and the cold war. Once again your indispensable.
    And thanks for sending in the economic HITMEN at every opportunity and creating many of the opportunities.
    How very charitable to always be there to “help” the less exceptional extract their natural resources. And thanks for orchestrating the overthrow of many democratically elected governments and installing puppet dictators and training up their goons at your “School of The Americas”

    It’s kinda hypocritical to call peak oil deniers and climate deniers “corns” while at the same time defend and/or minimize the crimes against humanity that belong to America and hold onto the warmNfuzzy parts of the American myth.

    Robert Wuhl’s Assume the Position 101 and 201

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ayWTFLk4Vo

    The School of the Americas: Class over?
    Some of Latin America’s most notorious dictators graduated from the military academy in Fort Benning, Georgia.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidestoryamericas/2012/09/201292081054585410.html

    Apologies Of An Economic Hitman (Full Documentary Movie) – YouTube.flv

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui0NL3bb21o

  10. Northwest Resident on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 1:55 pm 

    You got me there, Apneaman. No argument. Good points. Although, despite the fact that yes the Americans (and their globalist financial masters) looked to profit off of rebuilding those countries, I still and will always believe that at the human level, there was plenty of empathy, good will and noble intentions also involved.

  11. Davy on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 6:11 pm 

    App said – It’s kinda hypocritical to call peak oil deniers and climate deniers “corns” while at the same time defend and/or minimize the crimes against humanity that belong to America and hold onto the warmNfuzzy parts of the American myth.

    Yea, App, you might look in the mirror. Canada is complicit in all these crimes by association with significant participation. Canada has been involved in many of the American wars. Canada is heavily invested in the American economy. Many top business positions are held by Canadians. Funny how that is rarely mentioned in your American rants. I will look in the mirror if you will…promise.

  12. Davy on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 6:46 pm 

    Hey Orloon, read this article and get back to me friend. If you have time fwd it to our board propaganda queen Makster:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-09/beijing-we-have-problem

  13. Makati1 on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 7:19 pm 

    NWR, you spout the usual Western BS. WW2 was won by the Russians, not the West. Had they stayed on Hitler’s side, you would be speaking German today.

    As for what the world thinks of the US, how would you know if you haven’t lived outside it’s borders in the last few years? Do you think the French love the US when the IRS fines them billions for simply not kissing DC’s ass? Or the overthrow of many 3rd world governments because the corporate state wants their resources? Or … on and on.

    Name me one other country that has over 800 military bases scattered around the world. Even Rome at it’s peak never had near that many. Name one that has just 10 bases outside their borders. Name one that cannot win a real fight so they use the USD as a club.

    I too once thought as you do, but not since I learned the truth about history and current events. Keep your flag waving patriotism for the Empire. I don’t care. My opinion carries as much weight as anyone else’ whether you agree or not.

  14. Makati1 on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 7:26 pm 

    Davy, I made a few changes to one of his sentences…(in CAPS) Only one of many sentences that apply equally to the US. Your favorite country is drowning in debt, papered over with so many lies, even the sheeple are getting suspicious. China is not a saint and is also struggling with the manipulations of the US. Does it matter who falls first if they all come down the same day?

    ” THE US is still an evil FASCIST nation that disregards human rights, murders its citizens, crushes dissent, and suppresses free speech. Other than that, they are a great bunch of guys.”

    Take the blinders off and look at the world with an open mind.

  15. Davy on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 7:31 pm 

    Wow, got the Maksters attention. I love when that happens. He can’t stand when someone calls his super heroes names.

  16. Makati1 on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 7:32 pm 

    BTW:
    1. More than 500 American citizens have died after being tased, a device considered “non-lethal.”

    2. The yearly cost of the War on Drugs to the Americantaxpayer is about $40 billion. The estimated cost to end hunger worldwide is $30 billion yearly.

    3. There are more than 80,000 military raids conducted by police every year in the United States.

    4. There are roughly 2.3 million people locked up in the United States with another 5 million on probation or parole. The overwhelming majority are for non-violent crimes.

    5. UNICOR, an establishment inside the US Federal Prison System uses its confined pool of labor to produce war goods for the US military.

    6. In 36% of US SWAT raids, no contraband of any kind is found after the officers risk everyone’s life and engage in reckless actions that cost lives.

    7. An average London resident is recorded over 300 times a day by Big Brother’s video surveillance apparatus.

    8. The only nation to maintain a higher incarceration rate than the United States is Germany … under the Nazis.

    9. 97% of reported police brutality victims are people of color.

    10. Every 98 minutes, a cop kills a family pet. There have been no recorded officer deaths from a dog in last decade.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/ten-facts-you-should-know-about-the-american-police-state/5418865

  17. Davy on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 7:43 pm 

    Yada Yada Yada, Mak gives us something we don’t know you are boring us this evening.

  18. Northwest Resident on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 8:09 pm 

    Makati1 — Thanks for the history lesson. Keep revising that history as needed to maintain your POV. I don’t mind at all. “Spouting the usual Western BS.” Yeah, that’s it. Hang tough, friend.

  19. Speculawyer on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 8:24 pm 

    Orlov has really gone off the rails. He’s really buying into the conspiracy theories these days. Pretty loopy stuff.

    He’s got a deep streak of Russian nationalism that he won’t admit to. So he bad-mouths the USA and buys into the Russian conspiracy theories. Well, his actions speak louder than his words . . . he still lives here yet he is free to move back any time he wants.

  20. Apneaman on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 8:32 pm 

    What wars? Vietnam? Iraq? We never went to Afghanistan for you. We had businesses and citizens that were killed in the towers and the evidence was clear that’s where the camps were. We were in both world wars well before you guys and Korea was a UN deal. Since we are capitalists the cold war was a shoe in. Allies are not the same as identically minded partners.
    I know all about Canadian business interests and have been just as critical of the oil sands, mining, logging and my countries elite, politicians and apathetic populous as anyone. You miss the point again Davy and your strategy of justification because other countries have done bad things too is lame. Scale counts. Body counts count. Bragging counts. Duration counts. Every other article on here and many comments are about how fucking great America is or when things aren’t going her way it’s because of The: Russians, Chinese, KSA, Liberals, Conservatives, Commies, Socialists, Fill in the blank, but it’s always someone else. If, as you say, we share so many similarities and connections economically why has contraction been so much more unkind to the U.S. then Canada? How come there is no video of Canadians stampeding over each other on Black Friday? Race riots? Cutting food stamps and criminalizing the poor? They do all those things in Britain too now by the way. Empire? Why is violence almost always the first thing America and many Americans turn to? All our ancestors came from the same countries and we speak the same language and share much culture, but something is very different. I lived in the U.S. for seven years and saw it first hand. I know many fine Americans and was even married to one; she is one of the best people I ever knew. I know it is not all Americans, but it is a significant portion. It’s like there are multiple cultures existing even among native born people, even within the same race.
    Some things are indefensible. Like genocide and stealing other peoples home land. That’s how my country was started, but for the most part, we stopped there. America’s expansion has never stopped; it’s like an addiction. You should be grateful for us and all that we have done to entertain you and help you see the error of your ways;) Davy. Your lucky to have such nice pleasant neighbors who have helped you, including when your own incompetent government locked the front door on 9/11.

    9/11: Operation Yellow Ribbon (Gander, Newfoundland)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXbxoy4Mges

    If you think I’m a harsh critic, listen to one of your own. Morris Berman- Why America Failed

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzgY20d2MtU

  21. Apneaman on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 10:49 pm 

    Stephen Harper says oil and gas regulations now would be ‘crazy’
    ‘It would be crazy economic policy,’ PM says. ‘We’re clearly not going to do it’

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/stephen-harper-says-oil-and-gas-regulations-now-would-be-crazy-1.2866306

    Canada dead last in ranking for environmental protection

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/canada-dead-last-in-oecd-ranking-for-environmental-protection/article15484134/

  22. Makati1 on Tue, 9th Dec 2014 11:38 pm 

    No mirrors in your house, I bet, Davy. Cannot stand to see the real you, just like you cannot stand to see the real USSA.

    I enjoy our sparring, and I hope you have a good supply of blood pressure meds as you will need them as the days unfold. Or maybe sedatives. After all the Us is number one in drug use by far, both legal and illegal.

  23. Davy on Wed, 10th Dec 2014 5:23 am 

    App, If I could sell out and move to Canada and have a farm I would. I am more Canadian then American in thinking. I am talking about the Canadian that loves the wilderness, despises creature capitalism, and wants social justice. Yet, there are plenty of Canadians that are just as much a part of BAU’s lies and deceptions as any US corn porn. Your society and culture has similar issues of social ills and injustice.

    You talk about degree well bump up the Canadian population to the US size and see what happens. Look at the looting of the environment going on in Canada. Your war words are lame because you Canadians were in many of the post Korean wars. You know the Canadian 1%ers couldn’t pass up an opportunity to gets some spoils. Look at the participation in the defense industry directly or indirectly.

    You also must consider the rest of the world contribution to ecological destruction and social injustice. Look at Russia supporting a murderous Assad regime. Look at Russia’s disregard for the environment. Look at China’s nastiness with its own people and the people of Tibet. Chinese growth is destroying the earth’s ecosystem and climate. Go back to cold war and witness the communist genocide equal too Hitler. You selectively point your finger at the US and conveniently ignore this. Smells like the cat piss of hypocrisy to me. Mak smells that way mixed with old cat poop. Mak’s cat poop smell is his stale repetition over and over.

    I am looking in the mirror right now telling you I will defend my country, community, tribe, and family from propaganda bitches if that inevitability leads to hypocrisy so be it. I will also stand here and say due to the size of the impact of the destructive US policies from social to economic it is at the front of the line. Yet, to listen to propaganda porn especially from a Canadian is BS. Canada is tagging along in lock step with the US and global BAU. I am not going to buy into the one sided propaganda porn that does not acknowledge global interconnectedness and the global flow of power and 1%er wealth.

    The US has been hijacked by criminals. The destruction of our social fabric and rule of law at the highest positions is complete. The American general public is now being bled to death. Now the hijacking is proceeding to the global system and nearly complete.

    To constantly point fingers at the US especially for past sins does nothing to acknowledge this. It is like the Marm-a-NOo using the historical economic thinking to describe a new economics of repression and wealth transfer. It is fine to go American critical but show some balance and fairness. Look in the mirror as Canadians. Canadians are just as much BAU loving as the US especially at the 1%er level.

    One of the 1st steps an alcoholic takes is turning away from resentment and ask “how have I contributed to this problem IOW the blame game ends. Start cleaning up your nest and quit worrying about your neighbors. Everyone already knows how bad the US is at the core on the level of TPTB top. The US hijacking is complete and no one is going to change that. The country itself is just ordinary folks trying to pay bills and take care of family. Ordinary people are lost because their lives have been hijacked by the 1%ers and globalism. Social decay is well on its way in the US and abroad

  24. Apneaman on Wed, 10th Dec 2014 2:26 pm 

    Davy, your continual “everybody does it” defense should be left on the play ground with the other children. Everyone has their 1%er’s but the U.S. has tens of millions of “ordinary folks” in love with the empire and cheering it on. You often refer to them as “corns”. Remember Toby Keith’s “Courtesy of the Red, White, & Blue (The Angry American)”? ” – ’cause we’ll put a boot in your ass / it’s the American way,” That sold millions and filled stadiums for years with teary eyed Mericians who love to see democracy spread with iron fragmentation bombs and drones. They don’t seem to mind legalized torture either. How about the frenzied screaming and cheering by millions when news of Osama bin Laden’s assignation was announced. There are too many examples of “ordinary folks” in the U.S. behaving like animals every day to list and that behaviour is infrequent in other countries. If you like you can say all western countries are bad and America is the worst of a bad bunch, but it is worse by miles and miles. America is the fat gluttonous bastard that weighs 900lbs cause she can’t stop stealing others food and stuffing her face, all the while bragging how great she is. The others are 50lbs over weight. Go look up social ills, per capita and I doubt you will find many on par with the U.S. and that holds true for non-western countries as well. U.S.A. – your number 1, #1 in treating each other like you treat everyone else; like an enemy. It’s not just the elite or a few rednecks – It’s the American way.

    Morris Berman- Why America Failed

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzgY20d2MtU

  25. Davy on Wed, 10th Dec 2014 3:52 pm 

    App, whatever man, I think you are uptight and angry. I am not there with you so nothing left to do but agree to disagree. If you are not happy with me saying the US is the head of the line of bad then you have an agenda. Agenda’s do not seek the truth they seek to influence for one’s own satisfaction. I will tell you this I will respond to your comments when they are poor in character and scope. I know that people should not throw rocks in glass houses. I see too much hypocrisy with people that are constantly playing the blame game. The blame that they themselves or their dumbass country can’t live up to.

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