On the sixteenth anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, as the US government threatens punitive action against International Criminal Court investigators for attempting to look into US war crimes, former George W Bush administration Press Secretary Ari Fleischer has decided to publish a Twitter thread claiming that Bush did not lie to the world about Iraq.
Here is a transcript of the full thread by Fleischer:
The Iraq war began sixteen years ago tomorrow. There is a myth about the war that I have been meaning to set straight for years. After no WMDs were found, the left claimed “Bush lied. People died.” This accusation itself is a lie. It’s time to put it to rest.
The fact is that President Bush (and I as press secretary) faithfully and accurately reported to the public what the intelligence community concluded. The CIA, along with the intelligence services of Egypt, France, Israel and others concluded that Saddam had WMD. We all turned out to be wrong. That is very different from lying.
After the war, a bipartisan group was created to determine what went wrong, particularly why the intelligence community’s conclusions about Iraq were so different from what was found on the ground after the war. The group of experts was named the Robb-Silberman commission. It’s report was issued in March 2005. It can be found in full here. Its key finding was that that a “major intelligence failure” took place. It also stated that no intelligence service was pressured by the Bush Administration to conclude that Saddam had WMDs.
Here are the key quotes from their report:
“Overall Commission Finding: The Intelligence Community’s performance in assessing Iraq’s pre-war weapons of mass destruction programs was a major intelligence failure.
Nuclear Weapons Summary Finding: The Intelligence Community seriously misjudged the status of Iraq’s alleged nuclear weapons program in the 2002 NIE and other pre-Iraq war intelligence products. This misjudgment stemmed chiefly from the Community’s failure to analyze correctly Iraq’s reasons for attempting to procure high-strength aluminum tubes.
Biological Warfare Summary Finding: The Intelligence Community seriously misjudged the status of Iraq’s biological weapons program in the 2002 NIE and other pre-war intelligence products. The primary reason for this misjudgment was the Intelligence Community’s heavy reliance on a human source–codenamed ‘Curveball’–whose information later proved to be unreliable.
Chemical Warfare Summary Finding: The Intelligence Community erred in its 2002 NIE assessment of Iraq’s alleged chemical warfare program. The Community’s substantial overestimation of Iraq’s chemical warfare program was due chiefly to flaws in analysis and the paucity of quality information collected. In the case of Iraq, collectors of intelligence absorbed the prevailing analytic consensus and tended to reject or ignore contrary information. The result was ‘tunnel vision’ focusing on the Intelligence Community’s existing assumptions. The Intelligence Community did not make or change any analytic judgments in response to political pressure to reach a particular conclusion, but the pervasive conventional wisdom that Saddam retained WMD affected the analytic process. The CIA took too long to admit error in Iraq, and its Weapons Intelligence, Nonproliferation, and Arms Control Center actively discouraged analysts from investigating errors.
Finally, we closely examined the possibility that intelligence analysts were pressured by policymakers to change their judgments about Iraq’s nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons programs. The analysts who worked Iraqi weapons issues universally agreed that in no instance did political pressure cause them to skew or alter any of their analytical judgments.”
That is what the investigators reported, after been given full access to people throughout the intelligence community. Which leads me to conclude that there was a liar and his name was Saddam Hussein. He created an elaborate system of lies to fool western intelligence services and he succeeded. He wanted us to believe he had WMDs.
The allegaton that “Bush lied. People died” is a liberal myth created to politically target President Bush. I understand the anger that was felt after no WMDs were found. But that doesn’t justify calling the President a liar. I can only hope that serious historians and other experts do their homework and resist falling for this myth.
The Iraq war began sixteen years ago tomorrow. There is a myth about the war that I have been meaning to set straight for years. After no WMDs were found, the left claimed “Bush lied. People died.” This accusation itself is a lie. It’s time to put it to rest.
— Ari Fleischer (@AriFleischer) March 20, 2019
Ari Fleischer is lying. It is an absolute proven fact that George W Bush and his administration lied extensively about the degree of certainty in intelligence regarding Saddam Hussein possessing weapons of mass destruction, having ties to Al Qaeda, and seeking nuclear weapons, all of which (along with Vice President Cheney’s claim that the US invaders would be “greeted as liberators“) proved false. The Bush administration did not know the things they claimed to know with any degree of certainty, but they claimed that they were certain in order to manufacture support for war. Claiming to know something you do not know is lying, especially when it’s to advance an ulterior motive.
“Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications and statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of Al Qaeda,” Bush claimed in January 2003. “Secretly, and without fingerprints, he could provide one of his hidden weapons to terrorists, or help them develop their own.”
“Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction,” Cheney claimed in August 2002. “There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us.”
“The United States knows that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction,” Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said in December 2002. “Any country on the face of the earth with an active intelligence program knows that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.”
“We are absolutely sure they have continued to develop weapons of mass destruction, and we are sure they have in their possession weapons of mass destruction,” Secretary of State Colin Powell said in December 2002.
“My colleagues, every statement I make today is backed up by sources, solid sources,” Powell told the United Nations Security Council in his infamous Iraq presentation in February 2003. “These are not assertions. What we’re giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence.”
“People will continue to debate this issue, but there is no doubt in my mind,” Powell said in the same presentation. “These illicit procurement efforts show that Saddam Hussein is very much focused on putting in place the key missing piece from his nuclear weapons program, the ability to produce fissile material.”
Powell was not nearly as certain as he claimed to be. None of them were. Facts revealed after the invasion prove that for all their public claims of complete and total certainty that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, was aiding and abetting Al Qaida, and was developing nuclear weapons, behind the veil of government secrecy there was nothing like certainty at all.
For starters, Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, who was cited in Powell’s presentation and who Fleischer refers to by the code name “Curveball” in the above thread, was known to have been lying about bioweapons long before the invasion. Despite the confident assertions made by the Bush administration about Janabi’s claims to the public, no American personnel were present when he made those claims, and he told the Guardian in 2011 that the BND (the German intelligence agency who interrogated him) had known he was lying all along.
“The BND [German intelligence] knew in 2000 that I was lying after they talked to my former boss, Dr Bassil Latif, who told them there were no mobile bioweapons factories,” Janabi said. “For 18 months after that they left me alone because they knew I was telling lies even though I never admitted it. Believe me, back then, I thought the whole thing was over for me. Then all of a sudden [in the run up to the 2003 invasion] they came back to me and started asking for more details about what I had told them. I still don’t know why the BND then passed on my information to the CIA and it ended up in Powell’s speech.”
Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson was Powell’s chief of staff and helped him prepare his UN presentation on Iraq. When asked on MSNBC if he believed he was lied to about Janabi following the 2011 revelation, Wilkerson told Cenk Uygur that “I cannot come to any other conclusion, especially when I have discovered that no US personnel were present when Curveball was interrogated by the BND, the German intelligence service. That we accepted that, that we even had a head of the European division for the CIA, Tyler Drumheller, who at the last minute during Powell’s preparation, during my preparation of the secretary, had told both Tenet and McLaughlin that Curveball might not be reliable. That information was never relayed to the Secretary of State, or to me. I have some serious doubts about it now. I think there was some manipulation of this material, and there was some outright lying.”
When asked by Uygur who he thought lied to him, Wilkerson said one of WINPAC’s two WMD experts at the time may have been answering directly to Dick Cheney’s office.
A declassified report from 2002 titled Iraq: Status of WMD Programs reveals that while the Bush administration was making its claims of absolute certainty regarding the dangers posed by the Iraqi government, behind the scenes it was damn near the opposite. Some choice excerpts:
“Our assessments rely heavily on analytic assumptions and judgment rather than hard evidence. The evidentiary base is particularly sparse for Iraqi nuclear programs.”
“We range from 0% to about 75% knowledge on various aspects of their program.”
“Our knowledge of the Iraqi (nuclear) weapons program is based largely—perhaps 90%—on analysis of imprecise intelligence.”
“We cannot confirm the identity of any Iraqi facilities that produce, test, fill, or store biological weapons.”
“Our knowledge of what biological weapons the Iraqis are able to produce is nearly complete. Our knowledge of how and where they are produced is nearly 90% incomplete.”
“We do not know the status of enrichment capabilities. We do not know with confidence the location of any nuclear-weapon-related facilities.”
“Please take a look at this material as to what we don’t know about WMD. It is big.” (That one was from Rumsfeld.)
“We don’t know with any precision how much we don’t know.”
This is not the language of certainty. Yet certainty was presented to the public to manufacture support for a war which murdered a million Iraqis.
The 2002 Downing Street memo, made public in 2005, reveals a secret meeting between senior officials of the British government, intelligence and defense agencies discussing what they knew about America’s plans for war. The text of the document contains an assertion by the head of MI6 that Bush had already determined that the invasion of Iraq would take place, and it was only a matter of fixing bits of intelligence around a narrative to make the case.
“Military action was now seen as inevitable,” the document reads. “Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy. The NSC had no patience with the UN route, and no enthusiasm for publishing material on the Iraqi regime’s record. There was little discussion in Washington of the aftermath after military action.”
“It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided,” the document quotes Foreign Secretary Jack Straw as saying. “But the case was thin.”
In a 2008 hearing before the House Judiciary Committee, attorney and author Vincent Bugliosi pointed out that the fact that Bush lied about Iraq could be proven by the difference between the classified 2002 National Intelligence Estimate and its declassified white paper which was made available to the public. The classified version contained dissents from the consensus and language which made it clear that the reader was reading assessments and opinions by the CIA and other intelligence agencies, whereas the unclassified version saw these things deleted, presenting the assessments as absolute fact.
“The evidence that he lied about weapons of mass destruction, by the way, which is not the basis for this book, are right in front of me,” Bugliosi said. “I have it right here. Here is the evidence. This document here is the National Intelligence Estimate. I didn’t name it before. I talked about a classified report. This is it right here. October 1st, 2002, classified NIE report. It is called Iraq’s Continuing Programs of Weapons of Mass Destruction. In this document right here, the CIA and 15 other U.S. intelligence agencies use words like this, ‘we assess that’ or ‘we judge that’ Hussein has weapons of mass destruction. This document here is the white paper that was given to you folks here in Congress and the American people. And the words ‘we assess that’ or ‘we judge that’ were removed, meaning that you folks here heard a fact, and in fact, it was only an opinion.
“Number two, on nuclear weapons, this document right here, the classified report has several important dissents. This document right here, the white paper that you folks were given and the American people, all of those dissents were deleted.”
Over and over and over again we saw the same thing: uncertainty presented as certainty. Guesses presented as fact. Opinions presented as proof. That’s a lie. Bush lied. We know this with as much certainty as his administration was pretending to have in the lead-up to the Iraq invasion. There was a pre-existing agenda to invade Iraq, and justifications were advanced to provide an excuse for that invasion with such extreme aggression that now-National Security Advisor John Bolton literally threatened to murder an international official’s children for making diplomacy work with Saddam.
Here are a few more courtesy of Vox:
In October 2002, Bush said that Saddam Hussein had a “massive stockpile” of biological weapons. But as CIA Director George Tenet noted in early 2004, the CIA had informed policymakers it had “no specific information on the types or quantities of weapons agent or stockpiles at Baghdad’s disposal.” The “massive stockpile” was just literally made up.
In December 2002, Bush declared, “We do not know whether or not [Iraq] has a nuclear weapon.” That was not what the National Intelligence Estimate said. As Tenet would later testify, “We said that Saddam did not have a nuclear weapon and probably would have been unable to make one until 2007 to 2009.” Bush did know whether or not Iraq had a nuclear weapon — and lied and said he didn’t know to hype the threat.
On CNN in September 2002, Condoleezza Rice claimed that aluminum tubes purchased by Iraq were “only really suited for nuclear weapons programs.” This was precisely the opposite of what nuclear experts at the Energy Department were saying; they argue that not only was it very possible the tubes were for nonnuclear purposes but that it was very likely they were too. Even more dire assessments about the tubes from other agencies were exaggerated by administration officials — and in any case, the claim that they’re “only really suited” for nuclear weapons is just false.
On numerous occasions, Dick Cheney cited a report that 9/11 conspirator Mohammed Atta had met in Prague with an Iraqi intelligence officer. He said this after the CIA and FBI concluded that this meeting never took place.
More generally on the question of Iraq and al-Qaeda, on September 18, 2001, Rice received a memo summarizing intelligence on the relationship, which concluded there was little evidence of links. Nonetheless Bush continued to claim that Hussein was “a threat because he’s dealing with al-Qaeda” more than a year later.
In August 2002, Dick Cheney declared, “Simply stated, there’s no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.” But as Corn notes, at that time there was “no confirmed intelligence at this point establishing that Saddam had revived a major WMD operation.” Gen. Anthony Zinni, who had heard the same intelligence and attended Cheney’s speech, would later say in a documentary, “It was a total shock. I couldn’t believe the vice president was saying this, you know? In doing work with the CIA on Iraq WMD, through all the briefings I heard at Langley, I never saw one piece of credible evidence that there was an ongoing program.”
In 2007 General Wesley Clark told Democracy Now that he’d actually been informed of the decision to invade Iraq immediately after 9/11, while the crosshairs were turning on Afghanistan and well before the public narrative was being amped up in demand of an invasion of Iraq. His comments read as follows:
About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in.
He said, “Sir, you’ve got to come in and talk to me a second.” I said, “Well, you’re too busy.” He said, “No, no.” He says, “We’ve made the decision we’re going to war with Iraq.” This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, “We’re going to war with Iraq? Why?” He said, “I don’t know.” He said, “I guess they don’t know what else to do.” So I said, “Well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?” He said, “No, no.” He says, “There’s nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq.” He said, “I guess it’s like we don’t know what to do about terrorists, but we’ve got a good military and we can take down governments.” And he said, “I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail.”
So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, “Are we still going to war with Iraq?” And he said, “Oh, it’s worse than that.” He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, “I just got this down from upstairs” — meaning the Secretary of Defense’s office — “today.” And he said, “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” I said, “Is it classified?” He said, “Yes, sir.” I said, “Well, don’t show it to me.” And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, “You remember that?” He said, “Sir, I didn’t show you that memo! I didn’t show it to you!”
Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran. If you’ve been following the behaviors of the US war machine, Iraq won’t be the only painfully familiar name on that list.
It remains important to learn what we’ve attacked and where. How widespread?
In addition to military targets, I hope we targeted Assad’s palace in Damascus. Leave him alive but destroy his prestige. Leave him without a home, as Assad has left millions of Syrians w/o theirs.— Ari Fleischer (@AriFleischer) April 14, 2018
“In the last few months of 2018, Iran officially entered a deep recession.” Time to step up the sanctions… https://t.co/LyfHSGL4NU
— Ari Fleischer (@AriFleischer) January 10, 2019
Ari Fleischer is a liar. He was in the thick of the Bush administration’s campaign to sell the Iraq war to the American public, and to this day he continues trying to sell them on new acts of depraved US interventionism. He’s just as much a warmongering neocon inside as he was when he was behind a podium defending Bush’s wars in the press room, so it’s no wonder he wants to preserve the image of his insatiable death cult. Fleischer wants to preserve his legacy, yes, but he also wants to preserve support for the war machine whose feet he worships at, hence his ham-fisted attempt at narrative manipulation regarding the unforgivable Iraq invasion.
The responses to Fleischer’s Twitter thread have been overwhelmingly negative, though, so it doesn’t look like anyone’s buying it. In our new political landscape, where the image of George W Bush is being continually rehabilitated, that gives me a bit of hope.
These monsters lied to start a war which snuffed out a million human lives and destabilized an entire region, and they did it right in front of our faces. The fact that they’re now trying to lie about the thing we all watched them do is as insulting as it is infuriating. Never let them pull the wool over your eyes, and never forget what they did. Forgiveness is highly overrated.
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Harquebus on Thu, 21st Mar 2019 2:58 pm
“Propaganda must therefore always be essential and repetitious. It must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over.” — Joseph Goebbels
“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over… to kind of catapult the propaganda.” — George W Bush
makati1 on Thu, 21st Mar 2019 5:53 pm
When you are selling drinks, you give away salty snacks to make the customer thirsty.
When you want to sell weapons, you make the customer feel insecure. You make fake “enemies” like China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, etc. You tell countries that they are not safe from “terrorists” unless they buy your weapons by the ship load. If they don’t believe you, you send terrorists into their country to persuade them to buy.
All the US police state has to sell is debt, fear and weapons that don’t work. That is about over. The propaganda curtain is being torn aside and the real US exposed for what it is, a baby killing, plundering, terrorist organization, run by psychopaths and supported by dumbed down, brainwashed tax slaves.
makati1 on Thu, 21st Mar 2019 6:15 pm
“A defense report, revised in March 2019 for fiscal year 2017, shows what states benefit the most from defense spending.
Vote Buying. This is how and why people support perpetual war.
Anyone who does not support perpetual war is labeled “weak on defense”. And of course, no Congressmen ever turn down projects in their own district.
Finally, much defense spending is hidden. Homeland security costs are not considered
In reality, hardly any of this spending is “defense”. It’s primarily “offense”….
https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/economics/where-defense-spending-dollars-go-top-ten-states-LbS3IoGB8UWmM1hLWexxLQ/
…We need to make enemies to support perpetual war.” Nuff said. GO TRUMP in 2020!
Reverend Cleophus Robinson on Thu, 21st Mar 2019 6:49 pm
Be SILENCED ye Whore of Babylon, for inscribed on DAVY’S scalp is the Beast’s true identity and shall forever be known, DAVY, MYSTERY, BABYLON the GREAT, the FATHER of PROSTITUTES and ABOMINATIONS of the EARTH.
Mental illness on Thu, 21st Mar 2019 6:56 pm
Can you believe the noise out of this bum!! JuanP needs to be banned to return this forum to normal discussions.
“Reverend Cleophus Robinson on Thu, 21st Mar 2019 6:49 pm Be SILENCED ye Whore of Babylon, for inscribed on DAVY’S scalp is the Beast’s true identity and shall forever be known, DAVY, MYSTERY, BABYLON the GREAT, the FATHER of PROSTITUTES and ABOMINATIONS of the EARTH.”
JuanP's personality dysfunctions on Thu, 21st Mar 2019 7:00 pm
JuanP on Thu, 30th Jun 2016 4:56 pm
I think I could use my antisocial, psychopathic, sociopathic skills to convince people to vote for Trump. I can be very convincing when I want and I am excellent at manipulating people.
JuanP on Sun, 30th Aug 2015 5:40 am
…then you simply have a higher opinion of humans than I do. But what can I do? I am after all an admitted antisocial misanthrope. I just think most people suck!
JuanP on Fri, 12th Aug 2016 10:58 am
I stopped caring about humanity’s future a long time ago once I realized it was a waste of my time and energy. Now I think that it would be best for life on Earth if we ceased to exist as a species.
JuanP on Wed, 14th Sep 2016 9:59 pm
I struggle with the fact that I belong to the same species; I find myself emotionally and intellectually incapable of accepting the fact. That is why I consider myself a sui generis individual rather than a human animal.
JuanP on Sun, 26th Jun 2016 12:22 am
As far as I am concerned human beings are a bunch of arrogant and retarded ignorant fools and they deserve what’s coming. Call me selfish if you want, I don’t give a fuck!
JuanP on Fri, 15th May 2015 11:21 am
I did therapy for over a decade and most of it was a waste, but I had one therapist for a year who understood my issues and that helped, though I am still thoroughly screwed up.
JuanP on Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 6:57 am
They make me smile and happy and give me a brief respite from my cronic and acute depression.
JuanP on Sun, 17th Aug 2014 8:19 pm
I have suffered from cronic and acute clinical depression for most of my life, but I wouldn’t have it any other way.
JuanP on Mon, 23rd May 2016 8:53 am
I was just telling my wife yesterday that I would very willingly give my arms, legs, tongue, eyes, ears, nuts, and dick to experience life like normal people do for just one hour to know what it feels like. I have been a seriously depressed realist since I have a memory. My first memory of my life is of leaning against a tree alone in my kindergarten’s playground looking at all the other kids playing, thinking how stupid their behavior was, and wondering why I wasn’t like them. I basically don’t interact with normal people anymore. They have nothing to offer me and I don’t want to give them anything.
JuanP Trolling manifesto on Thu, 21st Mar 2019 7:01 pm
JuanP on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 7:34 am
I am back, bitches! I just got back from a surfing vacation in Costa Rica. I am recharged and refreshed, and ready to continue fucking with the Exceptionalist for the foreseeable future. Miss me much, Davy?
JuanP on Tue, 19th Mar 2019 8:44 pm
Davy, you require constant neutering and moderation. I committed to this herculean effort last summer and I am a man of my word. Otherwise, you will overrun this forum with right-wing conspiracy theories and all things Trump. At least I had the guts to recognize the error of my Trumptardian ways with one caveat. I applaud President Trump for destroying the American empire from within. Thanks to President Trump, the empire’s international reputation has been permanently fractured.
Anonymouse on Thu, 21st Mar 2019 8:01 pm
Could someone please dispatch the guys with butterfly nets and straight-jackets, industrial strength, to davyturds bayou doomstead address? And for good measure, the local SPCA to rescue any animals still left alive at the same time.
This fruitcake, delusional davy, has completely lost his mind. We can get rid of him, and his little sock army, ‘SUM’, I AM THE DAVYMOB, etc, all in one pass.
Davy’s Best Sock Ever on Thu, 21st Mar 2019 8:55 pm
“Mental illness on Thu, 21st Mar 2019 6:56 pm”
JuanO the liar on Thu, 21st Mar 2019 8:58 pm
So now JuanP has a manifesto Davy?
LMFAO at the fruit loop!
makati1 on Thu, 21st Mar 2019 9:06 pm
Anon, I quit reading any comment that is likely to be a sock puppet of the Missouri Mule. He has slipped down another step in insanity. At some point, he will lose it and go postal or just turn into a vegetable. Self imposed tress must keep his blood pressure high. Trying to protect the unprotectable US is frying the few brain cells that still function.
Perhaps he will just disappear from here soon and take his sock puppets with him. We can only hope. I enjoy debating with intelligent people and considering their point of view, but I will NOT support the US in any way. I think it deserves all that is coming.
JuanO the liar on Thu, 21st Mar 2019 11:46 pm
Davy on Sat, 29th Nov 2014 6:33 pm
I am doing better than a few months ago when I appear to be obsessed with the Mak attacks. Give me some time.
One does not overcome mental conditions overnight
I am working at it because I know most of the competent and exceptional commentators on this board find the barroom brawls immature. I will try to stick to the argument of the facts and avoid the personal attacks even if attacked.
JuanO the liar on Thu, 21st Mar 2019 11:54 pm
Oops, sorry everyone. I forgot the link.
https://peakoil.com/business/the-first-oil-exporting-casualty-of-the-crude-carnage-venezuela
Cloggie on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 2:17 am
I am fine with a contribution too bad juanO does identity theft.
Davy on Thu, 21st Mar 2019 6:01 am
Davy on Thu, 21st Mar 2019 6:06 am
Davy on Thu, 21st Mar 2019 6:11 am
What’s your problem with somebody posting articles without comments?
Oh wait, you don’t like the content.
Cloggie on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 2:35 am
An alternative to the cloggo Dunkirk 1940 version of Brexit. Gosh cloggo this is a far different view.
“Forget ‘Project Fear’, This Is What A “Hard Brexit” Could Mean For The UK”
https://tinyurl.com/y6qp2x9d Authored by Patrick Barron via The Mises Institute
Ah yes, stupid US libertarians, for whom the entire universe consists of money and economy only. Blood & soil doesn’t exist. In the meanwhile “their” country is crumbling from under their libertarian asses straight into CW2.
Countdown To America’s “Full Spectrum Dominance”
Time for an all-Eurasian alliance to take out this monster.
The Navy Wants to Shrink Its Aircraft Carrier Fleet
Too bad, only 10 instead of 12 easy targets. Carriers in 2019 in the possession of A are an asset of the enemy B, because these useless resources drain the fiscal resources of A. Currently the US wastes 40% of its military budget on a navy. They might as well throw that money directly in the water, at least that would save (their own) lives.
In 2019 ships, tanks, heck even planes are useless. Missiles rule. Not even missiles are safe from missiles. A Buk missile costs a fraction of a plane or ship, yet always hits the target.
With cloggo salivating on Brexit his own cherished euroland parliament is balkanizing in a CW2 much like DC’s swamp.
“European Parliamentary Bloc Suspends Fidesz As Hungary’s Feud With Brussels Deepens”
Empire dave is historically so illiterate that he simple copy-pastes “CW2” onto Europe. This one-dimensional idiot has zero understanding of history to pick an analogy of European history.
Fidesz suspended = “civil war”? Dream on. They simply move to the Right Block that is expected to win HUGE gains in the upcoming EU elections. And they are all pro-Putin. Anglosphere is sinking away into third world-nothingness. That’s OK. The greatest problem the white race has, globalist Anglo-Zionism, is solving itself. Don’t forget to turn off the light. CO2 and stuff.lol
Theedrich on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 2:56 am
The gov is riddled with lying knaves of all sorts. Power not only corrupts, it also attracts corrupt individuals of all sorts. This fact applies even to parts of the judicial branch, as the Ninth Circuit Court has shown repeatedly. “Justice” depends on power, and the mud-infected regions of the country — especially the Left Coast — wield a lot of it.
And the so-called “conservative” administrations have wrought just as much tragedy as the “liberal” ones. Geo. W. Bush was uninterested in facts; he simply wanted to “change the world” (his words), no matter what the cost. Reagan and Geo. H. before him treated post-USSR Russia duplicitously and set the scene for the increasingly dangerous antagonism with which we are now faced. (Of course, never mind that Reagan, to cut costs, also eviscerated the institutions for the insane in this country, and set millions of the mentally disturbed loose on the streets on the pretext of giving them their “rights.”)
Congress decided that not enough “sub-prime” Negroes were being given middle-class homes, and so jury-rigged the banking system to cause the financial crisis of 2008, whose consequences are irremediable.
Back in the 60s and 70s, LBJ and Nixon (with the éminence grise Robert McNamara) caused the deaths of 50,000 American men in the lost Vietnam war. And “war-hero” Eisenhower ended the Korean War only by secretly (through India) threatening China with nuclear annihilation. (Also, see James Bacques’ Other Losses: An Investigation into the Mass Deaths of German Prisoners at the Hands of the French and Americans after World War II, 3rd ed., for some other of Ike’s beneficent activities.)
Even before WW II, there was Woodrow Wilson, Ph.D., who died a madman after having gratuitously inserted the U.S. into WW I and screwed up the entire world.
Et cetera. But the history books are written by the victors.
So it is clear that monstrous crimes hidden by lies and hypocrisy are the quintessence of the American power center. G.W. Bush was simply following in that long-established Yankee tradition of using massive slaughter to enhance his own reputation and renown.
Davy on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 3:54 am
“Davy on Sat, 29th Nov 2014 6:33 pm”
What is the problem with that juanO? That was 5 years ago. A lot has changed. You have gone full postal. That is the problem. Now it is the destruction of the forum for personal reason. That is the mental illness. Glad to see you are doing some research instead of mindless goofy noise. Please find some more.
Davy on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 3:57 am
“What’s your problem with somebody posting articles without comments? Oh wait, you don’t like the content.”
cloggo, we are talking identity theft, stupid. As for naked links yea you are the worst. It is part of your deception and subterfuge. You say something then post a link saying see this is it of course without content to cover the assertion. You are a liar and a fraud but at least you contribute. Lying Juan is another story.
Davy on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 4:02 am
“Ah yes, stupid US libertarians, for whom the entire universe consists of money and economy only. Blood & soil doesn’t exist. In the meanwhile “their” country is crumbling from under their libertarian asses straight into CW2.”
Come on cloggo, many of your thousands of Brexit updates are primarily economic in nature and now you are saying that is not part of the subject. What a clown
“Empire dave is historically so illiterate that he simple copy-pastes “CW2” onto Europe. This one-dimensional idiot has zero understanding of history to pick an analogy of European history.”
Europe is one big endless CW2 cloggo. You invented civil war. War is what Eurotrads perfected. You brought war for power, greed, and exploitation to the world. WTF?? Now you howl about the US as if you are any different. LOL what a complete fraud.
Davy on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 4:10 am
“Anon, I quit reading any comment that is likely to be a sock puppet of the Missouri Mule. “
Oh but you like the fact that juanO is running cover for you. That makes your day so you are happy. Occasionally you whine about the childish behavior but as if it is my fault. This is ultimately your fault you have made an effort years ago to make this an anti-American place just like cloggo, anon, and lying juanO. I put a break on that shit and you dumbasses are gut shot. Now lying juanO is full postal. LOL Like I say VICTORY!
“Perhaps he will just disappear from here soon and take his sock puppets with him. We can only hope. I enjoy debating with intelligent people and considering their point of view, but I will NOT support the US in any way. I think it deserves all that is coming.”
LOL, I will see your end and JuanO. The fact that I am still here means I win. Lying junaO can’t shake me nor can you with your twink anno’s help. Everyday twice daily anno is here doing Davy whines. The gang is impotent. You fucks can keep at it but I still neuter your stupidity. Your lies, embellishments, and exaggerations are exposed.
I AM THE MOB on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 4:20 am
Check out the new cover of National Geographic Clogg…
The New Europeans: How waves of immigrants are reshaping a continent
https://i.redd.it/u4dpdzfosin21.jpg
I AM THE MOB on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 4:21 am
Lol I hope a bunch of white nationalists got aneurysms from that cover
I AM THE MOB on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 4:30 am
Biker gangs stand guard outside NZ mosques during first Friday prayer since massacre
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/biker-gangs-stand-guard-outside-nz-mosques-during-first-friday-prayer-since-massacre-a4096341.html
makati1 on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 4:33 am
LOL Davy, you are already gone. Mentally that is. Anon and I will dance on your grave soon.
Your sexual references are childish MOB,…er…Davy. Your entire mental view of the world is twisted and brainwashed to the point of being classified as insane, just like your desperate, warmongering, leaders in the Beltway.
You might have been a worthy adversary if you had not stooped to immature, arrogant putdowns many years ago. You cannot entertain anyone’s opinion but your own. You are a zero, Davy. You really need mental help snowflake. Pavlov’s dog had more freedom than you do.
Anon will likely leave the US before the SHTF. You are stuck. You claim an out in Italy, but there is no proof of that claim. Not that Europe is going to be better than the US. At least not much. IF the US doesn’t turn it into a war zone before then.
I got out almost 11 years ago and don’t regret a minute. I left all of that stress behind. I file a simple, half page Tax Return annually and a form to SS every two years. Otherwise, I have zero dealing in the US. No taxes. No fees. No permits. No licenses. Real freedom. Something you will not live long enough to experience.
Davy on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 4:49 am
“How To Identify A Globalist Criminal”
https://tinyurl.com/y2l4mpv8 Authored by Brandon Smith via Alt-Market.com
“push the notion that globalism is a purely “Jewish conspiracy”. And, as our social and economic structures grow more unstable, people look for easy answers and the idea is starting to gain some traction. Their claim? It’s all about the Jews, all the globalists are Jewish or somehow secretly related to Jews or are married to Jewish partners, etc. This is simply false, so let’s get this out of the way…The Jewish conspiracy narrative, I believe, is 4th generation warfare, a psychological operation, an attempt to mislead liberty movement activists away from a much deeper and darker issue. It also may be an attempt to attach the movement to white supremacy or white identity groups as if they are interchangeable.”
“The vast majority of globalists are not of Jewish origin and are not zionist in their political affiliations. While there are sectors of globalist institutions that have more Jewish people than others (such as the Federal Reserve), this does not indicate a majority or any sort of broad “Jewish conspiracy”. On the contrary, the directorial boards and memberships of most globalist institutions have a small minorities of Jews, and are majority Anglo in origin.”
Davy on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 5:07 am
“LOL Davy, you are already gone. Mentally that is. Anon and I will dance on your grave soon.”
Sure, makato, I moderate everything you say and neuter the worst of it. I have done this for years and I am going nowhere. I have outlasted apeman, greggor, and the other rabid Canadian anti-Americans. Lying JuanO is desperate as we can tell from his mentally ill sock and identity behavior IMA he has taken this forum to the lowest it has ever been. Many very smart people will not come here now because of his dirty behavior. I am going nowhere. I will see your end and I am much younger and stronger than you.
“Your sexual references are childish MOB,…er…Davy. Your entire mental view of the world is twisted and brainwashed to the point of being classified as insane, just like your desperate, warmongering, leaders in the Beltway.”
You are the bestiality freak. You and your buddies lying junaO and anon always talking about goat sex.
“You might have been a worthy adversary if you had not stooped to immature, arrogant putdowns many years ago.”
BS, I start putting you down after you started telling me that my family is fat, stupid and baby killers. WTF you think I am going to do I have a backbone. Since 3 years ago or more this is about groups of childish rabid extremist attacking me. The Canadians, who are mostly gone and the illegal alien lying Juano have been at it for years. Sometimes the rabid leftist here. In any case I am still here and many of them gone. I take the attacks as an honor BTW. The fact that I have sent lying juanO full postal is definitely VICTORY!
“You cannot entertain anyone’s opinion but your own. You are a zero, Davy. You really need mental help snowflake. Pavlov’s dog had more freedom than you do.”
Old man drivel from the pain from being neutered. You can’t say what you want any more, makato. Not that you say much in your own words. Most of it is cherry picked BS assembled as lies. You are good at whining about propaganda as you use it.
“Anon will likely leave the US before the SHTF.”
What a dumbshit!! Anon is a west Coast Canadian LMFAO. You are so senile.
“You are stuck. You claim an out in Italy, but there is no proof of that claim. Not that Europe is going to be better than the US. At least not much. IF the US doesn’t turn it into a war zone before then.”
Who cares makato. I am staying because I don’t turn my back on family. I have turned this farm into a safe place for family to come to. I am proud of that. What have you done? You ran off to a cheap 3rd world shake by a polluted beach to lay around and die at.
“I got out almost 11 years ago and don’t regret a minute. I left all of that stress behind. I file a simple, half page Tax Return annually and a form to SS every two years. Otherwise, I have zero dealing in the US.”
I am glad you are gone and could give a shit about your little bit of social security. WOW, now we caught you in a lie “I file a simple, half page Tax Return annually and a form to SS every two years” normally you tell us you don’t file as if that is bold and powerful act. LOL what a coward.
“No taxes. No fees. No permits. No licenses. Real freedom. Something you will not live long enough to experience.”
Makato, stupid, these things you put down are things that happen when you are successful. I have no problem paying these things because I have positive income. I work and I see results. You are nothing but a beach bum old man waiting to die.
Key personality trait of lying JuanP on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 5:16 am
BTW he admits to this and this is recorded here on this board. Here is the criminals own words:
“JuanP on Thu, 30th Jun 2016 4:56 pm
I think I could use my antisocial, psychopathic, sociopathic skills to convince people to vote for Trump. I can be very convincing when I want and I am excellent at manipulating people.”
narcissistic sociopathy, or what some circles might call “psychopathy”. Criminology indicates that not all criminals are full blown narcissistic sociopaths, but most full blown narcissistic sociopaths are criminals. Some are simply more successful criminals than others, and this usually depends on their ability to blend in and mimic or manipulate normal people. Full blown narcissistic sociopaths (or psychopaths) make up around 1% of any given population, but are responsible for the vast majority of violent crimes or criminal enterprises. The lion’s share of justice system resources are used in dealing with these people, as they are four to eight times more likely than the average person to use violence in daily interactions or as a tool to gain advantage, and twenty-five times more likely to end up in prison. There is a long list of character traits that make a narcissistic sociopath, but the defining features are a complete lack of conscience and empathy, a propensity for moral relativism (the ability to rationalize any and all destructive behavior), a desperate need to be adored or admired by everyone around them, a feeling of being “more special” than most people, a feeling of superiority, delusions of grandeur or an inherent right to manage the lives of others, an obsessive need to control and manipulate, impulsive desires and deviant sexual inclinations, and elitist associations (they will only associate with people they feel are like them and are “equally superior”). A defining fact of narcissistic sociopathy is that these traits are inborn, not a product of environment. In some cases environment can play a role in activating these traits, but if a person is not born with them, they generally do not adopt them later in life because of a traumatic environment. The following documentaries linked here and here are an excellent overview of high level narcissistic sociopaths. Narcissistic sociopaths defy all forms of treatment and cannot be reformed. They have no concrete personality beyond these traits, therefore, if you remove the traits, they are left with nothing else. They are almost anti-human; while most people are born with unique personality combinations, narcissistic sociopaths have none, so they mimic the personalities of those around them, mirroring behaviors and collecting or stealing quirks.
Davy on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 5:31 am
One huge screw up. The left went from one mistake (Hillary) to another, Russiagate (Hillary spawn). The left must reinvent itself instead it is selling AOC and her fake candy of gimmie shit. I want to see renewable power pushed and environmental protection. I want to see adjustments to decline and mitigation of the consequences of late stage capitalism. Instead we get a last stand fight between rabid extremist fighting over nothing.
“Mueller-Dämmerung: It Will Not Be “The End Of Everything”, Unless…”
https://tinyurl.com/yxflem45 Authored by CJ Hopkins via The Unz Review,
“If Nietzsche was right, and what doesn’t kill us only makes us stronger, we can thank the global capitalist ruling classes, the Democratic Party, and the corporate media for four more years of Donald Trump. The long-awaited Mueller report is due any day now, or so they keep telling us. Once it is delivered, and does not prove that Trump is a Russian intelligence asset, or that he personally conspired with Vladimir Putin to steal the presidency from Hillary Clinton, well, things are liable to get a bit awkward. Given the amount of goalpost-moving and focus-shifting that has been going on, clearly, this is what everyone’s expecting.”
“This is what Trump is about to do with Russiagate. When the Mueller report fails to present any evidence that he “colluded” with Russia to steal the election, Trump is going to reach over, grab that report, roll it up tightly into a makeshift cudgel, and then beat the snot out of his opponents with it. He is going to explain to the American people that the Democrats, the corporate media, Hollywood, the liberal intelligentsia, and elements of the intelligence agencies conspired to try to force him out of office with an unprecedented propaganda campaign and a groundless special investigation. He is going to explain to the American people that Russiagate, from start to finish, was, in his words, a ridiculous “witch hunt,” a childish story based on nothing. Then he’s going to tell them a different story.”
“This is the story Donald Trump is going to tell the American people. A minority of ideological heretics on what passes for the American Left are going to help him tell this story, not because we support Donald Trump, but because we believe that the mass hysteria and authoritarian fanaticism that has been manufactured over the course of Russiagate represents a danger greater than Trump. It has reached some neo-Riefenstahlian level, this bug-eyed, spittle-flecked, cult-like behavior … worse even than the mass hysteria that gripped most Americans back in 2003, when they cheered on the U.S. invasion of Iraq, and the murder, rape, and torture of hundreds of thousands of men, women, and children based on a bunch of made-up horseshit.”
Cloggie on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 5:38 am
““The vast majority of globalists are not of Jewish origin and are not zionist in their political affiliations”
True. The same argument applies to the question “was communism jewish?”. The fake argument is “yabut the number of non-jewish communists was far larger than the jewish ones”, which is true. But it ignores that the LEADERS are vastly disproportional Jewish:
https://youtu.be/-pDtgWUtdUM
Spineless anglos lost the competition with the jews early 20th century. There were anglo insurgencies: Kennedy clan, Nixon and Trump. That’s it. And Trump seems to be neutralized as well, like JFK and Nixon (killed, impeached by the kikes) were neutralized before.
England is driven into the arms of ZOG and the battle lines of WW3 are now drawn: Anglo-Zionist globalism against monoracial Eurasia.
Timber!
Expect the Anglos to lose. Down Under will change owner, Scotland will go Europe-direct, Ireland will unify and North-America will balkanize due to white nationalism and its Eurasian support.
Interesting times.
But the world will still be stuck with English as global lingua franca for centuries to come.lol
Davy on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 5:41 am
“When it comes to conventional inflation as measured by the flawed CPI or PCE baskets, by the time it does register, it will be too late to reverse it, and the consequence will be the end of the monetary system as we know it.”
“A Major Bank Capitulates: “This May Be The Time For Helicopter Money Drops”
https://tinyurl.com/y43tpyh2 zero hedge
“MMT, which as we discussed previously is merely the political camouflage for enacting helicopter money or direct debt monetization by the government, the respected Citi strategist comes to the conclusion that just because the economy now appears to be structurally depressed, it is as good a reason as any to proceed with, drumroll, helicopter money, i.e., MMT. Here is what he “found”: Most estimates of today’s neutral real policy rate for the US hover between 0.5% and 1%. For the euro area and Japan many estimates are negative. That represents a dramatic decline from the levels seen before 2000. This situation is unlikely to be reversed any time soon. Despite the fourth industrial revolution lurking in the wings, economy-wide productivity growth is stagnant at best. Ageing populations boost private saving rates and weaken the incentives to invest. Fiscal dissaving and enhanced public sector capital formation can raise the neutral real rate but are constrained, especially in the US, by already excessive general government deficits and a rising public debt burden. A lower real interest rate does, of course, make public debt servicing easier, other things being equal. If the lower neural real interest rate is the reflection of a lower underlying growth rate of potential output, fiscal space may not be enhanced significantly once both drivers of fiscal sustainability are allowed for. One implication for monetary policy is that this may be the time for helicopter money drops, a temporary fiscal stimulus funded by a permanent increase in the stock of central bank money. This makes even more sense when inflation continues to undershoot the inflation target, as is the case in the US and even more so in the euro area and Japan.”
And just like that the first official endorsement of helicopter money, pardon, MMT has arrived. It won’t be the last. As Alan Ruskin, chief international strategist at Deutsche Bank AG said during a Bloomberg interview on Wednesday, “don’t count on the hubbub over modern monetary theory dying down soon” adding that “it could get a lot bigger.” Here’s why: “What happens if the economy slows down, what happens if we go down to zero interest rates again? The Fed is going to be back in there again responding in essence to what’s gone on on the fiscal side. You get sort of an MMT-lite- type situation.” Or, alternatively, scratch the lite part and get full blown helicopter money as one government after next throw in the towel on fiscal conservatism and unleashes the biggest debt-funded spending spree in history, which as so many tragic examples in the past have shown, ends in tears. As Ruskin concluded, “The natural constraints are inflation. The question is, what point do you hit inflation?” Well, when it comes to traditional risk assets, we already have runaway inflation. When it comes to conventional inflation as measured by the flawed CPI or PCE baskets, by the time it does register, it will be too late to reverse it, and the consequence will be the end of the monetary system as we know it.
Davy on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 6:01 am
“Jim Rickards Exposes The Myth Of MMT”
https://tinyurl.com/yxk7cuok Authored by James Rickards via The Daily Reckoning
“Today, I’m going to show you what I believe to be the real problem with MMT. Again, it’s easy to see why so many politicians on the Democratic side would be such big supporters of MMT. Some or all of them have come out in support of the following programs: Free college tuition, student loan forgiveness, Medicare for all, free child care, universal basic income (UBI) and a Green New Deal. Some support them all. Needless to say, that’s going to cost a lot of money. Just consider the Green New Deal alone. I’m not going to go through every detail of it. But in essence it would spend trillions of dollars, for example, building high-speed rail. The idea is to cut down dramatically on air travel. It would also convert nearly every single structure in the country to solar power. I wrote this article from a house that’s running on solar power. But it’s very expensive to put the system in. I have a big system, but it barely covers my house. And every time I look at it, I say, “Oh, we’re going to do this for every house in the country? Good luck with that.” Some analysts have estimated that the Green New Deal would cost around $97 trillion. That’s trillion, not billion — or nearly five times annual U.S. GDP. When critics hear that a Green New Deal could potentially cost something like $97 trillion, or proposals for Medicare for all, free tuition, free child care or guaranteed basic income, they say, “That all sounds nice, but we just can’t afford it.” That’s their main argument — that no matter how desirable these programs might be in theory, we just can’t afford them. Most criticism of MMT falls along those lines. Even the Keynesians like those I mentioned earlier, who generally favor large amounts of government spending to stimulate the economy, have come out against MMT. Besides that claim that we can’t afford it, even the Keynesians say MMT would be highly inflationary. If you printed that much money and start handing it out to people, demand would outstrip the output capacity of the economy and you’d get high inflation. But the MMT advocates have an answer to these objections. They’re not the least bit intimidated by critics who say we can’t afford it. They say, “Yes, we can, and Modern Monetary Theory proves it. Just print the money and monetize the debt. Japanese debt is 2.5 times the United States’ debt, and China’s is higher than ours.” They haven’t collapsed, so we can take on far more debt than we have today. Furthermore, QE did not create much inflation. In fact, the Fed would like to see more inflation than it has. It still can’t produce a sustained 2% inflation rate after all these years. You might think the argument is ridiculous. After all, do we really want to become Japan? But in important ways, the MMT crowd has the upper hand in the debate.”
Davy on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 6:42 am
Oops, sorry everyone. Wrong links again.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-21/how-identify-globalist-criminal
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-21/mueller-dammerung-it-will-not-be-end-everything-unless
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-21/major-bank-capitulates-may-be-time-helicopter-money-drops
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-21/jim-rickards-exposes-myth-mmt
Davy on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 6:49 am
Where Defense Spending Dollars Go: The Top Ten States
http://tinyurl.com/y2fokbfq Zero hedge
“Vote Buying
This is how and why people support perpetual war.”
“Anyone who does not support perpetual war is labeled “weak on defense”. And of course, no Congressmen ever turn down projects in their own district.”
“Finally, much defense spending is hidden. Homeland security costs are not considered “defense”.”
“Perpetual War
In reality, hardly any of this spending is “defense”. It’s primarily “offense”.”
“We need to make enemies to support perpetual war.”
Davy on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 6:58 am
Catastrophic Flooding In Midwest Could Last “For Months”, Threatens US Food Production
http://tinyurl.com/y2fxh8x7 zero hedge
“The worst flooding disaster in the history of the Midwest is just getting started, and as this crisis unfolds we are all going to be feeling the pain. The “bomb cyclone” that recently brought hurricane-force winds and blizzard conditions to the middle of the nation was the spark that set off this catastrophic flooding, and now all of the snow from one of the snowiest winters in decades is going to be feeding into rivers that have already shattered all-time flood records. As you will see below, most of the Great Plains and Upper Midwest is currently covered by more than 10 inches of snow, and all of that water has to go somewhere. As all of that snow melts, we are going to witness an agricultural disaster that is far beyond anything that we have ever seen before in modern American history.”
“Food production in the United States is going to be way, way down this year. Prices at the grocery store are immediately going to start rising, and they are going to keep rising all year long. So now is the best time to stock up and to get prepared for what is coming. Our breadbasket has been absolutely devastated, and things are only going to get worse. The mainstream media seems to think that this is just another in a long string of major natural disasters that has hit our nation in recent years, but the truth is not so simple. This disaster is going to have a dramatic impact on our ability to grow our own food, and even if everything went perfectly from this point forward we are talking about a recovery that would take many, many years.”
Davy on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 7:06 am
US Housing Hits A Brick Wall: “The House Price Deceleration Is Staggering”
http://tinyurl.com/yxo29mz6 zero hedge
“RedFin puts out a monthly home sales report, which contains a lot of great data. The chart below shows Feb 2018 year-over-year price growth, which was off the charts, compared to Feb 2019 year-over-year growth, which was very weak.”
“This y/y growth deceleration is staggering, especially in the high-flying regions.”
“Very few regions escaped a significant deceleration with some prominent regions like San Jose and San Francisco even getting crushed on a year-over-year absolute basis.”
“The only thing that even comes close to this sharp of deceleration was circa-2007.”
“It was data like these I have been tracking that led to my call last year that there was no way the Fed could continue to hike in 2019.”
“For certain housing and related names, this is a killer unless prices re-accelerate quickly.”
Dredd on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 7:07 am
We don’t miss Bush II or his lies (The State of The Onion Script – 3) and we won’t miss Trump and his lies either.
Davy on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 7:18 am
“US GDP May Be Hit By The Boeing 737 MAX Fiasco”
http://tinyurl.com/y5eyo8p4 zero hedge
“With US GDP in Q1 already tracking at a barely positive 0.4% according to the Atlanta Fed and expected to barely hit 2.0% for the full year (according to the double-dovish Federal Reserve), it wouldn’t take much to push the US economy into a contraction in the current quarter (in which stocks have staged their biggest 3 month move since 1987), and perhaps in the second one, ending the second longest expansion of all time with a recessionary whimper.”
“if the issues are not resolved in a timely manner and production of the 737 MAX needs to be halted for an extended period of time, it would take about 0.15% off the level of GDP, or about 0.6%-point off the quarterly annualized growth rate of GDP in the quarter in which production is stopped.”
I AM THE MOB on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 7:22 am
As Brexit remains in limbo, Yale’s Stephen Roach says the ‘imperfect’ EU may not survive
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/22/stephen-roach-on-future-of-european-union-brexit-global-economy.html
Good bye Europe!
Davy on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 7:24 am
Interest Rates Sputter… Is U.S. Economy Next?
http://tinyurl.com/y49orjs2 zero hedge
“The Federal Reserve wasn’t quite as hawkish as investors expected. The result: Treasury bond yields (interest rates) fell sharply.”
This wasn’t just any old reversal, though. It occurred along the same long-term downtrend line that produced reversals in the years 2000 and 2007.”
“Interest rates can provide insight into the economy long before pundits begin reporting on it. Could the recent decline in interest rates be a signal that the economy is beginning to sputter? At a minimum, it’s worth watching!”
“Stay tuned!”
I AM THE MOB on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 7:25 am
Davy
Please stop spamming this site with ZeroIQ articles..You far right loon..
I know you need your safe space that is why you always share articles from the same place over and over again..
Its just click bait fear porn..
Mentally ill JunO post MOB on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 7:29 am
“I AM THE MOB said Davy Please stop spamming this site with ZeroIQ”
You are not very clever, MOB, and can’t distinguish identity theft
Davy said Interest Rates Sputter… Is U.S. Economy Next? http…
I AM THE MOB said As Brexit remains in limbo, Yale’s Stephen R…
Davy said “US GDP May Be Hit By The Boeing 737 MAX Fiasco” h…
Dredd said We don’t miss Bush II or his lies (The State…
Davy said US Housing Hits A Brick Wall: “The House Pri…
Davy said Catastrophic Flooding In Midwest Could Last “…
Davy said Where Defense Spending Dollars Go: The Top Ten Sta…
Davy said Oops, sorry everyone. Wrong links again. https://w…
lying JuanO on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 7:33 am
I approve of all your references lying JuanO just disapprove of your cowardly identity theft. You are a pussy and can’t behave properly. I guess you can’t help it. Again “VICTORY” it is an honor to see you go full postal and irrelevant. You whole friggin life is under my control now and I will see you miserable for it. ROTFLO
More Davy Sock Puppetry on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 7:38 am
Mentally ill JunO post MOB on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 7:29 am
lying JuanO on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 7:33 am
I AM THE MOB on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 8:51 am
The Scariest Video On Youtube (Yes this is a REAL classroom)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxMt0p_C0p0
Cloggie on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 8:51 am
Indonesian airliner Garuda cancels Boeing 737 max order:
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-47662967
No worries, Airbus, Russian and Chinese companies standing to jump into the 5000 plane market gap.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed/2018/11/26/new-russian-mc-21-aircraft-can-compete-with-boeing-and-airbus-models-report-says/amp/
Duncan Idaho on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 9:13 am
The Scariest Video On Youtube (Yes this is a REAL classroom)
Yes, ignorance on that level is hard to believe.
But our Cabbages For Christ can be that stupid.
Davy on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 9:55 am
Things are heating up!
“Marines Seize Pacific Island As Training For War With China”
https://tinyurl.com/y347zln5 zero hedge
Davy on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 10:59 am
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U1mlCPMYtPk
Cloggie on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 11:28 am
Things are heating up!
“Marines Seize Pacific Island As Training For War With China”
https://tinyurl.com/y347zln5 zero hedge
US walking straight into the WW3 knife, that will terminate empire.
Davy on Fri, 22nd Mar 2019 11:39 am
They were only pretending to seize that islet clogged.
Lighten up dumbass