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North Korea detonates its most powerful nuclear device yet
North Korea sharply raised the stakes in its stand-off with the rest of the world Sunday, detonating a powerful nuclear device that it claimed was a hydrogen bomb that could be attached to a missile capable of reaching the mainland United States.
Even if Kim Jong Un’s regime is exaggerating its feats, scientific evidence showed that North Korea had crossed an important threshold and had detonated a nuclear device that was vastly more powerful than its last — and almost seven times the size of the bomb that destroyed Hiroshima.
Tensions had already been running high, with Kim repeatedly defying international condemnation and increasingly blunt warnings by President Trump, and continuing to launch ballistic missiles.
But Sunday’s blast — North Korea’s sixth nuclear test but the first since Trump took office — could escalate those tensions to a new level.
Trump sharply condemned North Korea’s nuclear test, saying the country is “very hostile and dangerous to the United States.”
In a pair of tweets issued Sunday morning, Trump wrote: “North Korea has conducted a major Nuclear Test. Their words and actions continue to be very hostile and dangerous to the United States … North Korea is a rogue nation which has become a great threat and embarrassment to China, which is trying to help but with little success.”
Trump also delivered an admonishment of sorts to South Korea, saying that “appeasement with North Korea will not work” and suggesting that more severe steps must be taken to influence Kim’s regime.
China on Sunday said it “resolutely opposes and strongly condemns” the launch, adding to denunciations from South Korea and Japan.
The nuclear device that North Korea tested appeared to be so large that Vipin Narang, an expert on nuclear proliferation and strategy at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, called it a “city buster.”
“Now, with even relatively inaccurate intercontinental ballistic missile technology, they can destroy the better part of a city with this yield,” Narang said.
[ Don’t be surprised by North Korea’s missiles. Kim Jong Un is doing what he said he would. ]
North Korea’s latest nuclear test took place at exactly noon local time at its Punggye-ri testing site and was recorded as a magnitude 6.3 earthquake, according to the United States Geological Survey. It was followed eight minutes later by a 4.1 magnitude earthquake that appeared to be a tunnel collapsing at the site.
Japan immediately sent up sniffer planes to try to measure radiation levels.
North Korean state media said that the test was carried to test “the accuracy and credibility” of its “H-bomb to be placed at the payload of the ICBM.” North Korea tested its intercontinental ballistic missile for the first time in July, and its second test later the same month showed the rocket could theoretically reach Denver or Chicago.
Those launches caused Trump to tell reporters that if North Korea continued its provocations, it would feel “fire and fury.” He later tweeted that the American military was “locked and loaded.”
North Korean television on Sunday broadcast footage of Kim signing the order to detonate. Sunday’s test, part of the regime’s plan for building “a strategic nuclear force,” was a “perfect success,” the state-run Korean Central News Agency said.
Earlier Sunday, KCNA had released photos of Kim inspecting what was described as a hydrogen bomb that could be attached to an ICBM — the same device that appeared to be detonated just hours later.
All the components of the “H-bomb” were “homemade” so North Korea could produce “powerful nuclear weapons as many as it wants,” the state-run agency quoted Kim as saying.
Analysts were poring over the photos and the data Sunday, especially questioning North Korea’s claim to have produced a “two-stage thermonuclear weapon.”
David Albright, a nuclear weapons expert and president of the Institute for Science and International Security, was skeptical of North Korea’s claims and said that the photos were likely “propaganda.”
But there was no doubt that North Korea was making progress. South Korean government officials and independent nuclear scientists estimated the yield — the amount of energy released by the weapon — to be 100 kilotons. That would make it almost seven times as strong as the American atomic bomb that destroyed the Japanese city of Hiroshima in 1945.
At that level, North Korea’s nuclear device would be “very significant and destabilizing,” Albright said. “It would show that their design, whatever the specific design, has achieved a yield that is capable of destroying substantial parts of large modern cities.”
South Korea’s meteorological agency said Sunday’s explosion was as much as six times the size of the fifth test, in September last year, and 11 times the size of the January 2016 detonation.
Still, Albright doubted that North Korea had been able to make such a warhead small enough to fit onto a missile.
After firing increasingly long-range missiles, including the two that can theoretically reach the United States mainland, into the sea between the Korean Peninsula and Japan, North Korea last week sent a missile over Japan and into the Pacific Ocean, claiming it was capable of reaching Guam, a U.S. territory.
Analysts said that appeared to be a dummy run for firing an intercontinental ballistic missile on a normal trajectory over Japan and into the Pacific, instead of straight up and straight down as with its first two tests.
Although governments and experts would continue to assess the technical aspects of the latest nuclear test, MIT’s Narang said the danger is significant, regardless of whether this was a lesser boosted fission device or a true hydrogen bomb, or whether North Korea had mastered the technology to deliver this accurately to a target.
“It really doesn’t matter now from a deterrence perspective,” he said. “Mated on the ICBM, you don’t want this thing anywhere near a city near you.”
Sunday’s test caused anger across the region, with South Korean President Moon Jae-in saying he would “never allow North Korea to continue advancing its nuclear and missile technologies,” according to his national security adviser.
South Korean military leaders warned North Korea that they, together with their American allies, were “fully equipped” to punish North Korea.
But President Trump later admonished the Moon government. “South Korea is finding, as I have told them, that their talk of appeasement with North Korea will not work, they only understand one thing!” he wrote in a third Sunday morning tweet.
Separately, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said he “would not tolerate” the nuclear test. Abe had spoken with Trump three hours before the test, and said afterwards that they had agreed to “increase pressure on North Korea and make it change its policies.”
The White House said that two leaders discussed “ongoing efforts to maximize pressure on North Korea.” Trump made the call from Air Force One, as he returned home to Washington from his visit to storm-battered Texas and Louisiana.
“The two leaders reaffirmed the importance of close cooperation between the United States, Japan and South Korea in the face of the growing threat from North Korea,” the White House statement said.
All eyes will nowturn to China to see if it will be angry enough to impose true punishment on North Korea.
China has expressed annoyance at North Korea’s frequent ballistic missile launches, but analysts have said Beijing probably would not take serious action unless there is another nuclear test.
China’s primary concern is stability on its borders, and it has shied away from implementing sanctions that would seriously undermine the regime in Pyongyang, analysts have said. Almost all international sanctions, such as recent bans on coal and seafood exports, rely on Chinese enforcement because about 90 percent of North Korean trade goes through China.
China’s foreign ministry said Sunday that North Korea had conducted the nuclear test “with no regard to the general objections of the international community.”
“The Chinese government resolutely opposes and strongly condemns this,” the ministry said in a statement.
“China will work together with the international community to comprehensively and completely implement the relevant resolutions of the Security Council of the UN, unswervingly push forward the denuclearization of the peninsula, and unswervingly maintain the peace and stability of the peninsula,” it said.
102 Comments on "North Korea detonates its most powerful nuclear device yet"
Go Speed Racer on Sun, 3rd Sep 2017 9:54 am
North Korea has a lot of small missiles
aimed at South Korea. It’s like a hostage
situation with the bad guy pointing a gun
at the hostage head and making demands.
We can solve this problem, by carpet bombing
North Korea. So thorough is the coverage
that nothing is left standing.
Down in Los Angeles, South Street
Carpet Warehouse has a huge sale going
on for remnants, odd sizes
and discontinued colors
AND the backer pads are on sale too.
With that much carpet available it’s
clearly time to carpet bomb North Korea.
joe on Sun, 3rd Sep 2017 10:03 am
Man this game is so simple. 1st, Korean war never officially ended, so guess what, the UN is still at war with DPRK. Second math, any war with conventional weapons leaves millions of South Koreans dead in hours/mins, just by shelling alone, no thaad for shells I’m afraid. Third who sides with DPRK? Nobody? China will never allow US troops on its border, just like Russia won’t, simple.
Fourth nukes are dangerous. Even small battlefield nukes wipe out whole divisions, so the US has no chance of defeating DPRK if they were stupid enough to invade. Fifth DPRK has nukes so they need to be started to looked on with respect, the alternatives are none. WJClinton got DPRK to come to negotiating, but Bush2 abondoned to project and his neoconservatives friends decided another more stupid path, now that laziness is bearing fruit. Seventh, do not underestimate how real and dangerous this game is.
Plantagenet on Sun, 3rd Sep 2017 10:49 am
Obama failed to denuclearize North Korea. Now its Trump’s turn.
Cheers!
Ghung on Sun, 3rd Sep 2017 11:15 am
“Obama failed to denuclearize North Korea.”
Were you expecting him to, Plant? How would you go about that?
Hello on Sun, 3rd Sep 2017 11:58 am
Amazing, they only now achieve what european scientists did 70 years ago. Suckers.
paultard on Sun, 3rd Sep 2017 12:54 pm
listen to seismic
http://ds.iris.edu/ds/nodes/dmc/tools/event/10400146
Anonymouse1 on Sun, 3rd Sep 2017 2:16 pm
Planetietard has had to go cold-turkey on its bizarre ‘obama’ fixation for the last, what, six months or so? I bet not being to able to work ‘obama’ into a post, ANY post, had you shaking so bad you could barely function. Lucky for you, the retards at washington compost came to your rescue with this tripe, giving you a much needed ‘fix’.
In case you didn’t get the memo retard, ‘obama’ is not what you amerikans call ‘the president’ any longer, not for near a year now fyi. The ochre ape currently ‘in charge’ (lol) is not going to have any greater luck in this regard than your man-god ‘obama’.
Cheerio retard!
paultard on Sun, 3rd Sep 2017 3:16 pm
i keep telling you guys no reason for war with NK. I’m still right.
Ron Paul had been compared to Hari Seldon of Asimov’s novel. I am somewhat a master of psychohistory myself.
please untard yourself. it’s just a cover for russian interference
onlooker on Sun, 3rd Sep 2017 3:35 pm
As another posters said something smells fishy here. In a short span of time N.Korea has dramatically increased its missile and nuclear capabilities? Ummm, this sounds like standard practice when the US is preparing some intervention or offensive. Paint the adversary as a villain and then accuse them of nasty or aggressive behavior and then portray them as a threat to US interests. Rinse and repeat.
Davy on Sun, 3rd Sep 2017 3:41 pm
Are you pro Kim now onlooker?
onlooker on Sun, 3rd Sep 2017 3:45 pm
No, I am not. By all accounts he is a disgusting human being, but that does not change the geo-political undertones of this situation
Anonymouse1 on Sun, 3rd Sep 2017 3:52 pm
Im pro-Kim exceptionalist. I am head of the local chapter of the Hair-club for Kim. Could I interest you in signing up for our weekly newsletter? All things Kim, delivered right to the comfort of your tar-paper shack’s(email account that is).
Boat on Sun, 3rd Sep 2017 4:40 pm
The short, fat black haired cheeto will be taken out by the red haired cheeto. Only with S Korea’s blessing of course. It will take a couple weeks to take out N Korans military but one has to assume S Korea will be attacked for a few days.
Go Speed Racer on Sun, 3rd Sep 2017 4:57 pm
Time to carpet-bomb North Korea.
Carpet bombing can do incredible damage.
A roll of carpet hits with so much force
it will punch thru the roof of a greyhound bus killing everybody onboard.
Also if we are bombing with discontinued
colors that are way too maroon or peach,
not to mention sculpted or shag,
their troops will run screaming from the
battlefield at all those rolls of
discontinued carpet.
Carpet bombing is the way to go.
Antius on Sun, 3rd Sep 2017 5:17 pm
What would happen if the US launched a few nuclear tipped cruise missiles at North Korea from a submerged hunter-killer submarine and then denied all knowledge…?
Go Speed Racer on Sun, 3rd Sep 2017 5:32 pm
Because of the DMZ, the blast zone could
only radiate northwards. We couldn’t have any shockwave going southwards.
We would need a nuclear bomb with a half-circle, 180 degree, half-spherical yield.
This is why carpet bombing might be the better approach.
GregT on Sun, 3rd Sep 2017 5:37 pm
“Only with S Korea’s blessing of course.”
Of course. Mass murder is always justified with somebody else’s ‘blessings’.
GregT on Sun, 3rd Sep 2017 6:07 pm
“Amazing, they only now achieve what european scientists did 70 years ago. Suckers.”
Not that what those German scientists achieved 70 years ago, was mankind’s brightest moment.
Sys1 on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 10:55 am
“What would happen if the US launched a few nuclear tipped cruise missiles at North Korea from a submerged hunter-killer submarine and then denied all knowledge…?”
What would be smart would be to nuke North Korea at the same time they launch their next missile then pretend their new devices malfunctionned and triggered is nuclear warhead too soon.
onlooker on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 6:05 pm
What the Western Media is not telling you about these latest N.Korea tests is the following:
“What the media failed to mention was that, for the last three weeks, Japan, South Korea and the US have been engaged in large-scale joint-military drills on Hokkaido Island and in South Korea. These needlessly provocative war games are designed to simulate an invasion of North Korea and a “decapitation” operation to remove (Re: Kill) the regime. North Korea’s supreme leader, Kim Jong-un has asked the US repeatedly to end these military exercises, but the US has stubbornly refused. The US reserves the right to threaten anyone, anytime and anywhere even right on their doorstep. It’s part of what makes the US exceptional. Check out this excerpt from an article at Fox News:”
http://www.makewarshistory.co.uk/?p=4217
Davy on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 6:30 pm
“What the media failed to mention was that, for the last three weeks, Japan, South Korea and the US have been engaged in large-scale joint-military drills on Hokkaido Island and in South Korea.”
What? I saw the mention of the joint-military drills all over MSM. It is well known that China and Russia proposed a double freeze that linked the end of the drills and missile tests.
Makati1 on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 6:37 pm
Onlooker, the US is getting desperate for a huge war. They know that they cannot keep juggling all of the problems they have made, for much longer. The Western financial system is collapsing. The US is losing support from its ‘allies’. The climate is changing.
TPTB need to kill off at least a few billion of us eaters as soon as possible. From what I observe, they mostly believe they can survive the war, even if it is nuclear, and level the playing field with themselves in control. Desperation sometimes breeds insanity.
We live in interesting times.
Makati1 on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 6:44 pm
Sys1, you have no clue as to the real world do you? The North Koreans will know where it came from and retaliate immediately. Not to mention that China will make sure that that does not happen. Do you really believe that the Chinese would not know who and what is in their area? This is not WW2. This is 2017 where even the fish are watched.
Makati1 on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 6:55 pm
Now they are naming fires?
“Over the weekend a mandatory evacuation order was issued for more than 700 homes in Los Angeles, Burbank and Glendale – the order has since been lifted as firefighters made gains after brief showers hit the area. La Tuna has already burned over 7000 acres and destroyed multiple homes.”
La Tuna on the West Coast, Harvey on the East Coast. Irma headed ….? A busy Fall in America, not to mention the antics in DC with the budget, debt ceiling, and Trump.
More interesting to watch than any new TV series. lol
GregT on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 7:44 pm
“It is well known that China and Russia proposed a double freeze that linked the end of the drills and missile tests.”
As they should have. Somebody needs to put an end to the military adventurism, wanton violence and destruction, and mass murdering, once and for all.
Enough is enough.
Boat on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 7:49 pm
mak,
The US is losing support from its ‘allies’.
Is that why S Korea, Japan, Vietnam, India and Australia are buying US weapons.
Same in Europe, same in the Middle East.
You need to google more.
GregT on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 8:00 pm
Boat,
Exactly what the world needs, more U.S. manufactured weapons of mass destruction.
Boat on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 8:07 pm
Until rouge nations get under control, fear will drive weapons sales. The black haired cheeto continues to drive fear.
Makati1 on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 8:13 pm
Boat, did you know that India, Egypt, Libya, The Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, etc, are ALL buying, or negotiating for, Chinese and/or Russian weapons? The list is longer but those are the ones mentioned recently.
Did you know that The Saudis and Russia are moving closer and that the US is losing most of the ASEAN and African countries? Not to mention many in South America. Even some in Europe are wavering. Not to mention the ME.
You need to Google more.
Davy on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 8:14 pm
made in Canada too hypocrite
Davy on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 8:16 pm
makat, got references. You are a big talker and shy on facts.
Makati1 on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 8:19 pm
And you continue to support it, Boat. Don’t try to blame others for your failure to do something. You pay for that military industrial complex with every cent you pay in taxes. With every dollar spent on oil. With your Petroleum Investments. Most wars are about oil these days. Iraq, Pakistan, Syria, Yemen, etc. Even the push against Russia is a about oil. Blow-back is going to be a bitch for Americans. Wait and see.
Davy on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 8:30 pm
Shut up makat, the world supports a global MIC. China and Russia have them. People across the globe own shares in these companies.
Makati1 on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 8:37 pm
Here are a few “references” for the Google impaired…Davy.
https://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2017/05/economist-explains-11
https://www.rand.org/pubs/monograph_reports/MR1119.html
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2014/0708/Russia-s-arms-sales-boom-with-Soviet-designs
https://journal-neo.org/2017/09/04/cambodias-us-backed-opposition-leader-charged-with-treason/
https://journal-neo.org/2017/09/01/changing-the-rules-in-great-game-of-us-foreign-policy-failures/
https://journal-neo.org/2017/08/28/new-silk-road-shall-bring-asean-countries-closer-to-china/
https://journal-neo.org/2017/07/31/turkey-russia-and-interesting-new-balkan-geopolitics/
Plenty more in the web. LOL
Makati1 on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 8:42 pm
The US is losing, Davy. It’s greedy capitalist system is already over the cliff waiting to fall. The stockholders of arms makers are nothing but greedy pigs with blood soaked hands. I hope they all die from the very weapons they get rich on.
I never supported the market casino and never will. It was a bad idea from the start. I can hardly wait to get up some morning and see the crash. It went down 80% in the 30’s I hope it totally ends this time. I am prepared. Are you?
Davy on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 8:52 pm
makat, you live in a western enclave of Manila on a social security stipend. I hardly call that prepared. Worse yet, you are 75 with no health care.
GregT on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 8:52 pm
“in Canada too hypocrite”
Most of what Canada manufactures are subsystems sold to U.S. weapons manufacturers. Aircraft engines, avionics, and parts for small arms manufacturing. Not exactly weapons of mass destruction.
Davy on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 8:55 pm
Excuses for your filth grehg
Davy on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 8:57 pm
makat, do proper referencing with titles, data, and referencing. That is jiberish.
GregT on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 9:02 pm
“Excuses for your filth grehg”
I do not for one second support the manufacture of weapons of war, and I’m with mak, anybody who supports the industry, or makes a living off of it, deserves nothing less than to have those same said weapons of mass destruction turned on them.
GregT on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 9:11 pm
“The black haired cheeto continues to drive fear.”
Western mainstream media continues to drive fear. Fear sells weapons of mass destruction. Weapons of mass destruction are good for the MIC, and for the economies of nations that spend money on them. The U.S. spends more on it’s military than the next top ten nations’ military budgets combined.
Makati1 on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 9:12 pm
Davy, you keep making me older than I am. Do you or do you NOT have a reference to rebut my assertions? If you do, post them. If not, stop your bullshit. I can list 100s of references to prove my point. You cannot as there are none.
My “gibberish” can be accessed and read by clicking on any of those articles. Too lazy, or afraid of what you will read? You asked for references and I gave them to you. Do you want me to read them to you also? I stopped doing that when my kids were 6 and they could read on their own.
GregT on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 9:26 pm
“The U.S. spends more on it’s military than the next top ten nations’ military budgets combined.”
And I might add, cannot win the wars that it starts even with all of that funding. The U.S. also does not take care of it’s war ‘veterans’ that it puts in harms way, at the expense of the very people who continue to go further into debt while being put in harms way, by a government that is supposed to be for those people, by those people.
Makati1 on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 10:31 pm
“… a slow process called “ideological subversion” or “active measures”.
What this means, Bezmenov explains, is to change Americans’ perception of reality to such an degree that no American is able to draw a sensible conclusion in the interest of defending themselves, their families, communities and their country, regardless of the abundance of information available to them. It is a massive brainwashing process achieved at a very slow pace.”
““It takes about 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many (or few)? Simple: this is the minimum number of years needed to ‘educate’ ONE GENERATION of students in a target country (America, for example) and expose them to the ideology of the subverter. It is imperative that any sufficient challenge and counter-balance by the basic moral values and ideology of this country be eliminated.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-04/red-october-washington-2017
A long article well worth your time if you want to know how the US is being “leveled”. The process is about complete.
Boat on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 10:56 pm
greggiett,
Are you proud of Russian, China military sales? Do you think the poor from will be better off?
The people of N Korea go from famine to famine while the black hair Cheeto builds nuclear weapons and threatens it’s neighbors. Don’t you think N Korea would be better off being taken over by S Korea? The famines would end.
Boat on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 11:03 pm
GregT on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 8:52 pm
“in Canada too hypocrite”
Most of what Canada manufactures are subsystems sold to U.S. weapons manufacturers. Aircraft engines, avionics, and parts for small arms manufacturing. Not exactly weapons of mass destruction”.
Why are subsystems made in various countries around the world. You know?
Makati1 on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 11:09 pm
Boat, it will never happen. China will step in as they promised and the US will be driven out. Would the US want Mexico to be a Chinese or Russian controlled country? No, and neither does China want North Korea to be run by the US like South Korea is.
Makati1 on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 11:16 pm
BTW: The only articles I could find about North Korean famine were caused by a drought and now by the US embargo. Nothing caused by the NK government. At least not in the last 20 years.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/25/world/north-korea-drought/index.html
http://time.com/4274666/arduous-march-north-korea-famine/
Google…
Makati1 on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 11:20 pm
Profit, Boat, Profit. They can be made better and cheaper in other countries, than the US. Then assembled in the US and another profit is made. If Trump starts a trade war with China, you will see just how intertwined the US is with Chinese production. Things will start to disappear off the shelves at Walmart and not be replaced. Parts for many appliances and autos will be unavailable. Many industries in the US will shut down, permanently for lack of parts.
GregT on Mon, 4th Sep 2017 11:22 pm
“Why are subsystems made in various countries around the world. You know?”
Greed and corruption know no national boundaries Boat.