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Noam Chomsky On Trump And The Future Of US Politics
Just how bad are things with Donald Trump in the White House? And what does having a racist, misogynist, xenophobic and erratic president who continues to enjoy unquestionable support from his base tell us about the state of US politics and the dangers to the future of democracy in the US and in the world on the whole? Noam Chomsky shares his thoughts on these and other related questions in an exclusive interview with C. J. Polychroniou for Truthout.
C.J. Polychroniou: Noam, it’s been already 14 months into Donald Trump’s turbulent White House tenure, but sometimes we still need to pinch ourselves to make sure that it’s not a nightmare that a racist, misogynist, homophobic man who apparently cares only about himself runs the world’s most powerful nation. But, really, how bad is it having Trump in the White House?
Very bad. As Trump began his second year in office, the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists advanced their Doomsday Clock to two minutes to midnight, citing increasing concerns over nuclear weapons and climate change. That’s the closest it has been to terminal disaster since 1953, when the US and USSR exploded thermonuclear weapons. That was before the release of Trump’s Nuclear Posture Review, which significantly increases the dangers by lowering the threshold for nuclear attack and by developing new weapons that increase the danger of terminal war.
On climate change, Trump is a complete disaster, along with the entire Republican leadership. Every candidate in the Republican primaries either denied that what is happening is happening or said … we shouldn’t do anything about it. And these attitudes infect the Republican base. Half of Republicans deny that global warming is taking place, while 70 percent say that whether it is or not, humans are not responsible. Such figures would be shocking anywhere, but are remarkably so in a developed country with unparalleled resources and easy access to information.
It is hard to find words to describe the fact that the most powerful country in world history is not only withdrawing from global efforts to address a truly existential threat, but is also dedicating itself to accelerating the race to disaster, all to put more dollars in overstuffed pockets. No less astounding is the limited attention paid to the phenomenon.
When we turn to matters of great though lesser import, the conclusion is the same: disaster. While Trump’s antics occupy the attention of the media, his associates in Congress have been working intensively to advance the interests of their actual constituency — extreme wealth and corporate power — while dismantling what is of value to the general population and future generations. With justice, the Republican leadership regard the tax bill as their greatest triumph. Joseph Stiglitz rightly describes the triumph as “The US Donor Relief Act of 2017,” a vast giveaway to their actual constituency — and to themselves. As he points out, the Republican leaders “are stuffing themselves at the trough — Trump, Kushner and many others in his administration are among the biggest winners — thinking that this may be their last chance at such a feast.” And “Après moi, le deluge” — literally in this case.
The grand triumph brings an extra advantage. It explodes the deficit (a trademark of Republicans since Reagan), which means that they can move on to cut away at entitlements, as the chief architect, Paul Ryan, announced happily at once. The US already ranks near the bottom of the [Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development] countries — the 35 richer and more developed countries — in social justice measures. The Republican triumph will sink it even lower. The tax scam is only the most prominent of the devices being implemented under the cover of Trump buffoonery to serve wealth and corporate power while harming the irrelevant population.
Many other policies are simply [unconscionable], such as Trump’s initiative to have the Department of Homeland Security separate children, even infants, from their mothers in order to discourage immigration — 700 families have been split in this fashion since October, a New York Times investigation found. Many of these families are fleeing from the murderous consequences of US policies: Honduras has been the main source of refugee flight since the US, almost alone, endorsed the military coup that ousted the elected president and the fraudulent election that followed, initiating a reign of terror.
We also must endure the sight of Trump wailing in terror because a caravan of victims reached Mexico, most hoping to settle there. Trump’s suggestion that these victims are threatening the security of the US is reminiscent of Reagan strapping on his cowboy boots and calling a national emergency because Nicaraguan troops were a two days march from Texas, and about to overwhelm us. It’s amazing that such performances do not evoke profound national embarrassment.
To the extent that politics is the art of the possible, would you say that Trump has been consistent so far with the promises he made to voters during the 2016 campaign?
In some cases, yes. He is fulfilling the wishes of the Evangelicals who are a large part of his voting base. He is greatly increasing the military budget, as he promised. … Most of his promises are about as close to fulfillment as his commitment to “drain the swamp,” which is now overflowing. [Scott] Pruitt’s [Environmental Protection Agency] alone is a cesspool, though its dismantling of efforts to deal with the impact of climate change are far more serious than the wholesale robbery, which seems to be a Pruitt specialty from well before he was handed the wrecking ball.
We don’t need Comey to tell us that Trump is morally unfit.
On trade, though the policies, insofar as they are coherent, are generally harmful, the rhetoric is not completely false. Thus it is true that China is using devices that violate World Trade Organization rules — devices that were critical to the growth of the rich societies, from England to the US and beyond, and are now banned by the investor rights agreements mislabeled “free trade agreements.” This is a textbook illustration of what economic historians call “kicking away the ladder”: First we climb up, then we kick the ladder away so that you can’t follow.
And Trump is right that the [North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA)] should be revised. Some sensible proposals have been put forth by the partners in NAFTA. For example, Canada has proposed that the revised NAFTA should ban harsh US anti-labor laws, like the right-to-scrounge laws called “right-to-work” in contemporary Newspeak. These laws are soon to become federal policy, it seems, under the reactionary Roberts Court, which was made more extreme by [Senate Majority Leader Mitch] McConnell’s shameful parliamentary maneuvers to prevent even consideration of Obama’s nomination, opening the way to the appointment of Neil Gorsuch — another gift to the far right.
The Canadian proposal was prominently reported in the major Canadian press, but, oddly, is missing from the discussions of NAFTA revision here, which keep to Trump proposals.
Allegations of collusion continue to haunt Donald Trump’s presidency, primarily over his alleged ties to Russia and Putin, and former FBI Director James Comey said in a recent interview with ABC News that Trump is “morally unfit” to be president. What’s your take on all this, and what does Trump’s disrespect for law and the fact that his base is refusing to abandon him tell us about the current state of American democracy and US politics in general?
We don’t need Comey to tell us that Trump is morally unfit. He made that abundantly clear in the primaries, if not before. The fact that the Oval Office is coming to resemble a schoolyard on a bad day may be obnoxious, but it doesn’t rank high among the misdeeds of the administration, in my opinion. … Same with his alleged ties to Russia and Putin. Much more serious is the clique that now surrounds him. It’s a sad day when one has to hope that General [James] Mattis will keep the … [rest] in check. The [John] Bolton appointment in particular should send shivers up the spine of any person.
As for Trump’s base, they are indeed quite loyal. Most Trump voters were relatively affluent and probably are fairly satisfied with the ultra-reactionary policies. Another important segment was non-college-educated whites, a group that voted overwhelmingly for Trump (a 40 percent advantage). There is a close analysis of this group in the current (Spring 2018) issue of the Political Science Quarterly. It found that racism and sexism were far more significant factors in their vote than economic issues. If so, this group has little reason to object to the scene that is unfolding, and the same with the white Evangelicals who gave Trump 80 percent of their vote. Among justly angry, white, working-class Trump voters, many apparently enjoy watching him stick his thumb in the eyes of the hated elites even if he doesn’t fufill his promises to [working-class voters], which many never believed in the first place.
What all this tells us, yet again, is that the neoliberal programs that have concentrated wealth in a few hands while the majority stagnate or decline have also severely undermined functioning democracy by familiar mechanisms, leading to anger, contempt for the dominant centrist political forces and institutions, and often anti-social attitudes and behavior — alongside of very promising popular reactions, like the remarkable [Bernie] Sanders phenomenon, [Jeremy] Corbyn in England and positive developments elsewhere as well.
Ryan, an influential architect of the Republican economic platform, announced that he is stepping down from Congress. Do you think his decision was motivated by the fear that a “blue wave” may be coming in November as a result of a growing backlash against Trump and Trumpism?
There is much talk about how this “admirable” figure, who bedazzled the media with fraudulent spreadsheets, wants to spend time with his family. Much more likely, I think, is that he decided to leave Congress because he had achieved his long-standing goals, particularly with the “Donor Relief Act of 2017” and the deficit cuts that open the way to sharp reduction of entitlements: health, social security, pensions — whatever matters to the people beyond the very privileged. And perhaps he prefers to be out of town when it becomes too hard to conceal what’s being done to the general population and someone will have to face the music.
With regard to foreign affairs, what do you consider to be the most menacing elements of Trump’s handling of US foreign policy?
Trump inherited multiple crises. His own policies have been largely incoherent, but he has been consistent in some areas, primarily the Middle East. He has provided strong support for the Saudi war in Yemen, a major catastrophe, and is exulting in the huge arms sales to the dictatorship. Last December, UN agencies warned that the Saudi blockade of Yemen could lead to “one of the largest famines in modern times.” Yemen already has the world’s worst cholera outbreak, which is not under control. The Saudi blockade is hindering desperately needed imports of food, medicine and fuel.
“Make America great” means great at destroying, and that’s where the greatness ends.
Apart from the human disaster it is creating, the Saudi dictatorship, always with firm US backing, seems intent on carrying forward the Taliban and ISIS projects of destroying precious antiquities. Reviewing the systematic Saudi destruction, the chair of Yemen’s Organization of Antiquities and Museums charges that the attacks on 60 sites are “a conscious campaign to wreck Yemen’s heritage and demoralize its citizens.” Western experts agree that the destruction seems deliberate, using information provided by the [United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization] on cultural heritage sites to direct bombing attacks, with no military objective.
The US-led attack on ISIS in Raqqa destroyed the city, and nothing is being done to reconstruct or help the victims. Under the influence of [US-UN Ambassador] Nikki Haley, one of the more sinister (and, it seems, ambitious) figures in the administration, Trump has sharply cut funding to the [United Nations Relief and Works Agency], which barely keeps millions of Palestinian refugees alive. In general, “make America great” means great at destroying, and that’s where the greatness ends. It’s by no means entirely new, but is now raised to a higher level and becoming a matter of principle.
In May, Trump will presumably refuse to renew sanctions relief for Iran, as required by the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA). That does not constitute formal withdrawal, though that’s the likely effect. Even if the European signers formally persist, the consequences will be severe because of the central role of the US in the international financial system — not to speak of the danger that their persistence might arouse the ire of the unpredictable Trump, who can do a great deal of damage if crossed. Effective withdrawal might provide an opening for the new national security adviser, Bolton, a genuine war criminal who publicly calls for bombing Iran, presumably in collaboration with Israel and with tacit Saudi approval. Consequences could be horrendous.
There is much fevered debate as to whether Iran might have violated the JCPOA, contrary to the firm conclusion of [the International Atomic Energy Agency] Director General Yukiya Amano on March 5, 2018, that “Iran is implementing its nuclear-related commitments.” But we hear virtually nothing about US violations, though these have been clear enough. Thus the JCPOA commits the signers to support the successful implementation of the agreement, including in their public statements, and to refrain from any adverse effect on trade and economic relations with Iran that conflict with their commitments to successful implementation of the JCPOA. The US has been in flat violation of all of these commitments, which have serious consequences.
Unmentionable as always is the obvious way to alleviate whatever threat Iranian nuclear programs are imagined to pose: establishing a nuclear weapons-free zone in the region. The way is clear. The proposal is strongly supported by Iran, the Arab states and the world generally. But there is an impediment. It has regularly been blocked by the US, for familiar reasons: Israel’s nuclear weapons. Also ignored is that the US [and] UK have a special commitment to work for this goal, having committed themselves to it in the UN [Security Council] resolution they invoked in an effort to find some thread of justification for their invasion of Iraq.
Trumpism is one of many manifestations of the effects of the neoliberal policies of the past generation.
There is more to say about this troubled region, but there are crises elsewhere as well. One involves North Korea, and here there might be some rays of light. Trump has so far accepted the moves of the two Koreas toward improving relations, and has agreed to negotiations with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un that so far look promising. If these initiatives succeed, they might go as far as the September 2005 agreement in which North Korea pledged to abandon “all nuclear weapons and existing weapons programs.” Unfortunately, the Bush administration immediately violated all of its commitments under the agreement, and North Korea proceeded with its nuclear weapons programs. We may hope that Trump will be willing to accept success in denuclearizing the peninsula and in further steps toward accommodation. And if he wants to brag about the achievement as a demonstration of his brilliance as a deal-maker, just fine.
This by no means exhausts the foreign policy issues that should be seriously addressed — topics that would carry us far afield.
What’s your overall sense about Trumpism? What is it really all about, and do you think Trumpism is showing us the future of right-wing politics in the US?
The Democratic Party is now split between the donor-oriented New Democrat managers and a growing activist social democratic base.
Trumpism is one of many manifestations of the effects of the neoliberal policies of the past generation. These have led to extreme concentration of wealth along with stagnation for the majority. There have been repeated crashes of the deregulated financial institutions, each worse than the last. Bursting bubbles have been followed by huge public bailouts for the perpetrators while the victims have been abandoned. Globalization has been designed to set working people throughout the world in competition with one another while private capital is lavished with benefits. Democratic institutions have eroded. As already mentioned, all of this has led to anger, bitterness, often desperation — one remarkable effect is the increasing mortality among middle-age whites discovered by Anne Case and Angus Deaton, analyzed as “deaths of despair,” a phenomenon unknown in functioning societies. While there are variations from place to place, some features are common. One is the decline of the centrist parties that have long dominated political life, as we see in election after election. In the US, in recent years, whenever candidates arose from the base in the Republican primaries, the established powers were able to crush them and impose their own choice: Mitt Romney, most recently. In 2016, for the first time they were unable to do so, but they quickly rallied to the winning candidate, who proved quite willing to front for the more brutal wing of the traditional party. The real surprise in the election was the Sanders campaign, which broke with a long tradition of pretty much bought elections, and was stopped only by machinations of the Obama-Clinton party managers. The Democratic Party is now split between the donor-oriented New Democrat managers and a growing activist social democratic base.
What all of this portends, worldwide, is far from clear. Though there are also significant signs of hope, some commentators have — with good reason — been quoting Gramsci’s observation from his prison cell: “The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.”
75 Comments on "Noam Chomsky On Trump And The Future Of US Politics"
eugene on Wed, 25th Apr 2018 7:31 pm
I just keep remembering tens of millions think exactly like Trump.
dave thompson on Wed, 25th Apr 2018 9:39 pm
Interestingly enough Chomsky will never comment on the JFK assassination or the events of 911. He kind of gets upset if asked what his views on the topics are.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 25th Apr 2018 9:56 pm
Dave
I totally understand. Personally I think they were both false flags. Due to Operation Northwoods. That pretty much settles it. And because they knew peak oil was coming. And because they made all the jets that would have intercepted the planes go off on a wild goose chase training drills. But I never tell any of my friends or family that I think it was a false flag. The reason is that people will never accept it. Its just unthinkable that your government could do something so evil. Its to big of a change for them to handle. I just tell people I know that “I question the official story”. And I leave it at that. Surveys show around half of all Americans think the government had something to do with it.
Cloggie on Wed, 25th Apr 2018 10:06 pm
Marxist club Truthout deplores the Trump presidency, no surprises here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthout
And poor, poor Chomsky is forced to witness how his tribe is losing control over America.
“a racist, misogynist, homophobic man who apparently cares only about himself runs the world’s most powerful nation.”
Highly unfair, I was not aware that DJT was homophobic.
“We also must endure the sight of Trump wailing in terror because a caravan of victims reached Mexico”
Chomsky is morally outraged that the Dems are going to be deprived of all these potentially new voters, the horror.LOL I agree with Chomsky on the irrelevence of the Putin/Russia-ties and the rejection of Bolton. Chomsky is old school Jewish Left, not neocon. He is also right on climate change. Little is to be expected from America, Europe has long taken over the lead from America in this field as well as renewable energy. But hey, renewable energy skepsis is default in America, even on this board, with a few exception like boat and Outcast. The rest is merely concerned with “proving” it won’t work: Davy, dave, makati, millimind, the list goes on. Fine with me, the greater the head start for Europe is going to be in the essential energy field, with major geopolitical implications.
For the rest I can’t disagree with much what Chomsky says, but I do disagree with blaiming solely Trump for it. It is not just Trump, it is America as a whole with its maniacal obsession with military hardware, now greatly neutralized by cheap missiles from the opponents. Or its support for KSA in Yemen.
Trump is a buffoon, but he is right in several fields:
– halting European-American decline as organized by Chomsky’s tribe
– trade-imbalance with China unacceptable
– concentrating on the US rather than empire (America First)
– vague notions on getting along with Russia, sabotaged by the deep state
– retreating from Syria, a criminal war instigated on Obama’s watch, making a mockery of the alleged moral superiority of Chomsky’s Dems.
Cloggie on Wed, 25th Apr 2018 10:12 pm
“Interestingly enough Chomsky will never comment on the JFK assassination or the events of 911. He kind of gets upset if asked what his views on the topics are.”
And since we are living in a world where 1+1=2, you can safely conclude that in both cases his tribe was responsible for the crime. That is why he wants to shut up about it. Chomsky, just another lying kosher deep stater, committed to our (white) demise.
Go get them, Benito, um Donald!
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2018/04/23/donald-trump-understands-the-problem/
MASTERMIND on Wed, 25th Apr 2018 10:45 pm
Clogg
Chomsky is a living legion. You are just jealous because you are poor white trash..Take a shower you stink like shit..
MASTERMIND on Wed, 25th Apr 2018 11:18 pm
Clogg
https://i.redd.it/wi4ptcy4u4u01.jpg
Cloggie on Wed, 25th Apr 2018 11:38 pm
European castles:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Chambord_-_19-08-2015_-_Arnaud_Scherer.jpg
American castles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xg3vE8Ie_E
[0:16]
Meet your new master, it is your old one.
Cloggie on Wed, 25th Apr 2018 11:46 pm
Chomsky is a living legion. You are just jealous because you are poor white trash..Take a shower you stink like shit..
Once again…
WTC7 fell with the speed of gravity > the carrying columns must have been prepared for controlled demolition during the weeks ahead of the 9/11 attacks, but after (((Silverstein))) and his Israeli security firm (((Kroll))) took over > Israel did it.
This is simple logic for every neutral bystander to follow, even for Chomsky. That’s why he covers it up, because he is kosher trash.
makati1 on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 1:57 am
In other news”
“Adm. Davidson said China is seeking “a long-term strategy to reduce the U.S. access and influence in the region,” which he claims the U.S. must maintain its critical military assets in the area. He views China as “no longer a rising power,” but rather a “great power and peer competitor to the United States in the region.” Adm. Davidson agreed with President Trump’s recent assessment on China, calling the country a “rival.”…
“China will be able to extend its influence thousands of miles to the south and project power deep into Oceania. The PLA will be able to use these bases to challenge U.S. presence in the region, and any forces deployed to the islands would easily overwhelm the military forces of any other South China Sea-claimants. In short, China is now capable of controlling the South China Sea in all scenarios short of war with the United States.” …
“A more effective Joint Force requires sustained investment in the following critical areas: undersea warfare, critical munitions stockpiles, standoff weapons (Air-Air, Air-Surface, Surface-Surface, Anti-Ship), intermediate range cruise missiles, low cost / high capacity cruise missile defense, hypersonic weapons, air and surface lift capacity, cyber capabilities, air-air refueling capacity, and resilient communication and navigation systems.”
Reminds me of Oliver: “Please sir, may I have some more?” ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$)
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-25/top-us-admiral-warns-china-now-controls-south-china-sea
“Adm. Davidson warns, that it is Beijing’s clear intent to disintegrate the seventy years of U.S. alliances and partnerships in the region.”
About time! Go for it!
deadly on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 4:52 am
Chomsky has to go back to writing on psycholinguistics.
It is not a secret that Trump is a clueless idiot. The old news now.
Noam needs to know that the US doesn’t have to be involved in conflicts in the ME. The guy got arrested during a Vietnam War protest for crying out loud.
He does raise awareness and tolerances, that’s good.
He speaks with bias, however, and is to be criticized for being biased.
The US has not done the deeds causing chaos in the Middle East, the place has been that way for centuries and it will not stop. Charles Martel knew that in the eighth century when he routed the Saracens out of southern France at Tours. There they were, gone.
The Deep Swamp players in the US just add arms and foment conflict for economic gain, war is good business and business is good. If there is significant collateral damage, it can be mitigated and accepted. ‘Worth it’ were the words Madeline Albright used. Just the way it is in the real world.
All is fair in love and war, if everybody gets involved, a war of all against all is fair game on the battlefield.
The Syrians don’t have to be at each other’s throats, but they are. People are animals, they kill each other on a regular basis. In the US, mass shootings are taking place like car bomb attacks in Baghdad.
If everybody in Syria had had weapons they would have been able to fight, wouldn’t have had to run for the hills to escape a certain death from ISIS fighters. Make a beeline trail to Germany and raise hell there too.
Germany disarmed its population during the Weimar Republic, gun control laws were enacted through a campaign initiated by Jewish intellectuals.
It didn’t work out too well for the Jews later on as time went by, so gun control will end up having a serious impact on certain ethnic groups. If nobody has any guns, they are extremely vulnerable to starvation and extirpation, genocide, enslavement. Nothing new about that.
You can’t just arm the rebels, everybody has to have a weapon to have any semblance of peace. A population of 50,000 should have at least a hundred thousand or more rifles and pistols at the ready.
Laws are useless, especially laws controlling guns.
“Stop quoting your laws, we have swords.” – General Pompey
Chomsky is compromised.
The rest of the world doesn’t really care how the arms are traded and the deaths occur.
That is how humans live these days.
Davy on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 5:33 am
“I just keep remembering tens of millions think exactly like Trump.”
…and you like the dirty Democrats and their attempt to steal the election through the worst corruption in our history? The Mueller witch hunt that ignorantly goes after the Russians when the Democrats where in full corrupt collusion with the Russians prior to the campaign including the dumbass mueller. The intelligence services, law enforcement at the highest level, the bummer pres himself, and last but not least the most disgusting candidate ever to be fielded Killary Klinton, herself the witch. Not one stupid word from noamie on this horribleness. Noamie you are an old looser. Anyone who takes these extreme positions is a looser. Trump is a science denying fool as is many of the Republicans. We see Trump allowing the neoconservative/liberal deep state to continue the waring that has taken us dangerously close to the edge. This is a sell out on his message to get out of these never ending wars. Trump has done some good things though like immigration and trade. These are things the wealthy blind lying liberals love because it enriches their coffers while bleeding the flyover they hate so much. The worst wealth transfer is the welfare to the rich coaster not the red states who have been bled of opportunity and privilege. Yes both sides are bad noam especially the liberal side of hypocrites like so many here who wail tears of rage for Trump and not a peep on their scum and their dirty deeds. These deeds are coming out now slowly and I have seen the blind lying liberals quiet down and for good reason although some hard core blind liars continue to spout off ridiculousness.
MASTERMIND on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 6:02 am
Davy
You have read too much Zerohedge. You sound like a paranoid loon. The dems colluded with Russia now? Shut the fuck up. you are just another white trash uneducated farmer. Go back to pitching manure.
Davy on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 6:11 am
“flushed a covey” LOL, master baiter you talk too much so STFU. The reason I don’t blister you is you talk too much. You remind me of a swarm of mosquitos. It is best just to leave the swarm infested area. Too much to have to clean up. Besides greggie, nederliar, 3rd world and wee widdle weasel give you plenty of grief or is it attention? Master baiter are you attention deprived? I bet your other browser is set on porn hub because I bet you don’t get any pussy either. LOL.
Davy on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 6:22 am
Neder, how about this wonderful example of Teutonic superiority?
“Deutsche Bank Reports Disastrous Results As It Retreats From US Investment Banking”
https://tinyurl.com/yau2c6zl
“That was just the beginning, however, and as was rumored previously, the bank announced a sweeping restructuring plan, abandoning ambitions to be a top global securities firm, scaling back U.S. rates sales and trading, reducing the corporate finance business in the U.S. and Asia, and reviewing its global equities business with a view toward cutting it back, the bank said in a statement. The measures will lead to a “significant reduction” in the 97,130-person workforce this year, Deutsche Bank said. Read: massive layoffs.”
MASTERMIND on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 6:25 am
Chinese smartphone sales suffer biggest decline ever
http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/26/technology/china-smartphone-market-decline/index.html
Davy on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 6:28 am
“The Great Exodus From America’s ‘Blue’ Cities Accelerates”
https://tinyurl.com/y7se8bxv
https://tinyurl.com/y9r6wsef
“New York, Los Angeles, Chicago — the places where power and capital have traditionally congregated — have become so over-regulated, so overpriced and mismanaged, and so morally bankrupt and soft on crime that people are leaving in droves. Of course, these high-tax cities are the same places hit hardest by the removal of the SALT deduction.”
MASTERMIND on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 7:32 am
Davy
Its those high tax cities that pay the majority of the poor south and rust belts welfare. Lets look at a chart of median incomes and credit scores.
https://imgur.com/a/trZZDTi
Ouch you white trash uneducated scumbag..
MASTERMIND on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 7:37 am
Dying small rural town in America starter pack
https://imgur.com/a/Sujsj#qkDjHRs
Mark Ziegler on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 7:48 am
Do they have to keep posting that goofy picture?
TheNationalist on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 8:26 am
Chomsky is just another yid globalist feigning academic superiority.
Hang them high at noon I say.
Yee haw!
Davy on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 9:54 am
It is those high tax cities where the swindling rich parasites live that get first nab on the free money. It is where privilege and opportunity is locked in by inbred rich people who would not last long if life got tough. It is where people like you mm, are that are stupid liberal snowflakes deep in college debt but no gamefull employment. Mm, does mom still make breakfast for you? I am sure she pays all your bills because it is obvious you have paid very few bills ever in your life. It is people like you mm that represent the wasted youth that will ensure this country has no future.
MASTERMIND on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 10:16 am
Davy
You are the one who inherited your farm. I have never even got a dime from my family. Not even an allowance growing up. Its poor white trailer trash like you, that has ruined this country. Just look at your governor your sate elected. If it wasn’t for snowflake liberals inventing silicon Valley this economy and stock market would have crashed a long time ago. Now keep sharing Russian propaganda now (zerohedge)…Keep being a good Putin puppet! You will die the most horrifying death within the next decade anyways. Good luck holding down a farm when the stores run our of food. Your farm will become an easy/soft target.
MASTERMIND on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 10:39 am
At the Fed, the Scene Is Being Set for Financial Disaster
https://www.thenation.com/article/at-the-fed-the-scene-is-being-set-for-financial-disaster/
onlooker on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 10:51 am
The harder they party in Wall St, the harder the hangover
MASTERMIND on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 11:03 am
Mexican rapper admits to dissolving students’ bodies in acid
https://nypost.com/2018/04/26/mexican-rapper-admits-to-dissolving-students-bodies-in-acid/
And this is while BAU is still in place. Just imagine after the collapse hits what brutality will ensue.
GregT on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 11:16 am
“Mexican rapper admits to dissolving students’ bodies in acid. And this is while BAU is still in place.”
BAU in Mexico isn’t the same as BAU where you live MM. but at some point it likely will be.
Anonymouse1 on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 11:19 am
Dont you think you are laying on these back-and-forths with your sock a little thick exceptionalist? Its not clear who you are trying to convince, or what you are trying to achieve by it. Don’t you think you should talking to all the nice people at the hospital instead, and not having goofy faux arguments with yourself on the interweb?
GregT on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 11:27 am
“It is where people like you mm, are that are stupid liberal snowflakes deep in college debt but no gamefull employment. Mm, does mom still make breakfast for you? I am sure she pays all your bills because it is obvious you have paid very few bills ever in your life. It is people like you mm that represent the wasted youth that will ensure this country has no future.”
And now Davy resorts to stocking and pricking Americans. What a hypocrite.
GregT on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 11:39 am
Come to think of it, Davy has openly admitted to stalking and pricking Makati1 at every available opportunity, and Makati1 has been an American for longer than Davy has been alive. Hypocrite.
MASTERMIND on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 12:32 pm
Exclusive: Ancient Mass Child Sacrifice May Be World’s Largest
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/04/mass-child-human-animal-sacrifice-peru-chimu-science/
MASTERMIND on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 12:40 pm
Greg
At the Fed, the Scene Is Being Set for Financial Disaster
https://www.thenation.com/article/at-the-fed-the-scene-is-being-set-for-financial-disaster/
Maybe you were right about the fed.
GregT on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 12:55 pm
Those who were most responsible for the GFC MM, walked away with hundreds of millions of dollars in bonuses. Just saying.
Davy on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 1:30 pm
“And now Davy resorts to stocking and pricking Americans. What a hypocrite.”
greggie, like you he pricked me first. I try to avoid both you dumbasses. You are both idiots that destroy the integrity of this board. No wonder you two play together every night. A secret romance? MM, greggie like ass fucking. It is documented on the board he wanted to ass fuck me.
Davy on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 1:35 pm
“Come to think of it, Davy has openly admitted to stalking and pricking Makati1.”
If 3rd world does not make an offensive comment he never hears from me. 3rd world is another idiot you play with nightly. You three along with the nedernazi are disgusting example of the gutter dwellers this board has become entrenched with. If you 4 would leave, forgot the widdle weasel, real intelligent conversation could be more available. Instead it is drown out by stupidity.
GregT on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 2:16 pm
“If 3rd world does not make an offensive comment he never hears from me. 3rd world is another idiot you play with nightly. You three along with the nedernazi are disgusting example of the gutter dwellers this board has become entrenched with. If you 4 would leave, forgot the widdle weasel, real intelligent conversation could be more available. Instead it is drown out by stupidity.”
As was recently pointed out Davy, it is you who is mostly at the centre of all disputes on this forum.
Makati1 is speaking out against an out of control ZOG and military industrial complex. If you were a true patriotic American you would be doing the same, instead of supporting and enabling grotesque corruption.
And Davy, both MM and makati1 are Americans. You are stalking and pricking Americans buddy. That would make you a hypocrite, plain and simple.
Davy on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 2:34 pm
Greggie, can you spell bitch and then slap because I just bitch slapped you. I have pointed this out to you before. Give the childish name calling and stalking/pricking a rest, already. Dumbass.
MASTERMIND on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 4:01 pm
Ford is basically giving up on US car business, and GM is not far behind
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/26/ford-is-basically-giving-up-on-us-car-business-and-gm-is-not-far-behind.html
Big Trucks, Big SUVs… the optimists are wrong. We aren’t going to all be driving small, fuel efficient electric vehicles any time soon. The trend is going in the wrong direction.
GregT on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 4:14 pm
“Give the childish name calling and stalking/pricking a rest, already. Dumbass.”
You are the one who is constantly accusing me of stalking and pricking Americans Davy. Yet when you do it, all is fine?
That would be hypocritical Davy. Not name calling, but a fact. ‘Greggie’, and ‘dumbass’, would both constitute childish name calling.
MASTERMIND on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 4:26 pm
Putin’s nuclear ‘doomsday machine’ could trigger 300 ft tsunamis, but the worst effects might come from the fallout
https://www.businessinsider.co.za/russia-doomsday-weapon-submarine-nuke-2018-4
300 ft Tsunamis! HOLY SHIT!
GregT on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 4:36 pm
“300 ft Tsunamis! HOLY SHIT!”
Maybe it would be a better idea for the warmongers in DC to cooperate with the Russians, instead of continuing to piss them off.
MASTERMIND on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 5:07 pm
Greg
I think war with Russia is locked in already. I mean the amount of anti Russia propaganda being spread these days is astonishing. And Americans don’t seem to scared of Russia. Scary what they might do to get everyone to fall back in line..
Davy on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 5:16 pm
Greggie, stop it already, get help with your pricking obsession, already.
GregT on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 5:43 pm
“Greggie, can you spell bitch and then slap because I just bitch slapped you.”
Does your Italian girlfriend/wife? know how much you like to use woman based derogatory remarks Davy? (If she really exists)
Somehow I doubt it, cause if she did, she’d be bitch slapping your sorry ass three ways to Sunday. Everybody knows that Italian women always wear the pants in the family, already.
GregT on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 5:47 pm
MM,
“I think war with Russia is locked in already.”
Agreed. TPTB could care less what happens to the US of A.
Antius on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 5:51 pm
This simulator shows the effects of several nuclear weapons on any city on Earth. You can choose whether you want a ground or airburst.
https://outrider.org/nuclear-weapons/interactive/bomb-blast/
A 300kt bomb would cause 280,000 casualties if detonated over central London. That’s a lot of crispy Wogs. The Tsar bomb, at over 50MT would cause 4.6 million casualties, mostly due to heat and blast effects. For people indoors, lethal blast radius is 10 miles.
peakyeast on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 5:53 pm
“Greg Spriggs, a nuclear-weapons physicist at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, said a 50-megaton weapon “could possibly induce a tsunami” and hit a shoreline with the energy equivalent to a 650-kiloton blast.
But he said it “would be a stupid waste of a perfectly good nuclear weapon.””
Unfortunately stupidity is the very hallmark of military existence in the first place – so that is no argument.
MASTERMIND on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 6:05 pm
Antius
Check out what a soviet Tsar airblast would do over Mexico City or Beijing!
makati1 on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 6:40 pm
Sales pitch or…?
“During the subsequent days, U.S.-and-allied media celebrated their side’s alleged victory; for example, on April 22nd, USA Today bannered “105 to 0: Why Syria’s air defenses failed to intercept a single incoming missile”,…
Russia on April 16th gave a detailed breakdown of the results of the U.S.-and-allied bombing, and reported here (at 1:32:30), “a total of 103 cruise missiles were targeting the Syrian targets, and 71 [missiles] were taken out.” That claim would be a 69% Syrian-and-allied (defensive) success-rate, and a 31% U.S.-and-allied (aggressive) success-rate, on this event, which was the biggest direct military confrontation between Russian and American (and French and UK) forces, ever. This was also, therefore, arguably, the actual start of World War III. …
The Russian Defense Ministry showed the wreckage of the American Tomahawk missiles and European TOOL, the Storm Shadow. At the disposal of the military were large fragments of the engines and control systems, parts of the fuselage. And many of them show visible marks from shrapnel. This proves the fact that the missiles were intercepted by air defense systems….
Although the truth about this matter might not be of much interest to voters in any country, it will matter a great deal to the ruling aristocracies in any countries, such as Turkey, which are now making decisions between buying weapons made by the U.S. side, or else buying weapons made by the Russian side. And those decisions, in turn, will factor heavily into the choosing-up-of-sides in WW III, if neither the U.S nor Russia backs down so that a full-fledged hot war between U.S. and Russia results.”
https://www.globalresearch.ca/what-was-the-success-rate-of-the-us-uk-france-april-14th-missiles-against-syria/5637890
I would believe the Russians over the pathological liar, the Us, any day.
Davy on Thu, 26th Apr 2018 6:53 pm
3rd world, global research dot com is an extremist nutter site totally anti-American biased that spreads disinformation. Who is the pathological liar?