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Most Americans Favor Invading Syria and Iraq
According to the Brookings Institution, only the economy is of more concern to Americans than the Islamic State.
It cites a Quinnipiac University poll released last week showing nearly 70 percent of respondents believe the Islamic States poses a direct threat to the United States.
“As economic worries gradually subside, concern about terrorism is on the rise. The survey finds that terrorism now trails only the economy on the list of top public priorities,” Brooking notes.
Remarkably, if the Quinnipiac University numbers can be believed, a majority of Americans want to send U.S. combat troops to Iraq and Syria to battle ISIS.
These sentiments translate into broad support for much more assertive policies. The Quinnipiac survey found that by a stunning margin of 62 to 30 percent, the American people now support sending U.S. ground troops to fight ISIS in Iraq and Syria. That figure includes majorities of Democrats and Independents as well as Republicans, women as well as men, and young adults as well as seniors. And 68 percent are “very confident” or “somewhat confident” that the United States and its allies can defeat ISIS.
Brookings is a foundation supported by the Rockefellers, the Ford Foundation (in other words, the CIA), bankers (Goldman, Sachs & Co., Citigroup Foundation, and J.P. Morgan Chase Foundation) and the war merchants (Raytheon, General Dynamics, and Lockheed Martin).
It is rather poignant how easily crude and transparently fake propaganda turned a war weary nation around — that is, again, if we can trust the results of the Quinnipiac survey and other corporate polls.
Corporate Media Ignores Manufactured Nature of Islamic State
Strictly avoided by the corporate media as it hypes the supposed threat to Americans by ISIS is the group’s obvious manufactured nature.
“In the wake of 9/11 US news media seldom asked about the origins of Al Qaeda — particularly how it was a product of US intelligence agencies,” writes Prof. James F. Tracy. “With the history of Al Qaeda omitted, the Bush administration was permitted to wage war on Afghanistan almost immediately following those staged attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon.
“Yet as is much the case with today’s manufactured ISIS phenomenon, that history was readily available, and its careful public examination might have implicated the United States intelligence community in the 9/11 attacks.”
Media Lens, in examining the “comic book simplicity of propaganda,” notes that the massive campaign in favor of an ISIS war has diverted “attention away from uncomfortable truths.”
The Threat of Economic Terror
One such truth cited by Brookings is the economy. The establishment scholars at Brookings insist that the economic worries of the American people are gradually subsiding, presumably in response to yet another massive propaganda campaign — one promoting the narrative that the economy is recovering.
In fact, the world faces the prospect of a financial crash of historical proportion.
“Anyone with even a minimal amount of intelligence should be able to see the massive financial bubbles that the central banks of the world have created, and anyone with even a minimal amount of intelligence should be able to see that we are heading for a massive financial implosion which will be extraordinarily painful,” writes Michael Snyder.
Snyder believes the American public as been “zombified” by dangerous propaganda.
“Instead of thinking for themselves, they let ‘the matrix’ do their thinking for them. And right now ‘the matrix’ is telling them that everything is going to be just fine in 2015.”
This same zombification process is at work in the effort to turn the war on terror into a forever war that serves the needs of the military industrial complex, its associated banks and other related corporations, and the geopolitical objectives of the global elite.
Insider think tanks fueled by corporate and bankster dollars tell us ISIS is a dire threat to the homeland when it obviously is not. So far, the only “terrorists” apprehended in America pledging allegiance to ISIS were created by the FBI and the Justice Department.
55 Comments on "Most Americans Favor Invading Syria and Iraq"
ghung on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 6:12 pm
Insanity prevails.
Plantagenet on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 6:16 pm
A strange article that blames the “banksters” and “corporate dollars” for the US war against ISiS, but sometimes neglects to mention that is the obama administration that created the power vacuum now occupied by ISIS, and the obama administration that took the US into this war, and the obama administration which is seeking approval to send US troops into ground combat.
GregT on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 6:20 pm
Obama is a politician, owned and operated by the banksters, and the corporate elite.
Plantagenet on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 6:35 pm
????
Obama is not “owned” by the banksters as you claim. Slavery in the US was abolished 160 years ago by the Republicans.
dubya on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 6:59 pm
I know Obama’s conspiracy runs deep, so deep that he convinced his predecessor to invade Saudi Arabia – I mean Afghanistan and Iraq and Pakistan. sarc off>
Now I think Obama could have done a lot more to get the west OUT of that quagmire, but I’m not entirely convinced he got us INTO it. And while we are in it the Islamic State of our making is our problem.
Perhaps just leaving the whole M.E. mess to collapse might be the sensible thing.
Makati1 on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 7:49 pm
Planet, if you owe any bank foe anything, they “Own” you.
This article only proves how brainwashed (and stupid) the American masses are. The Ministry of Truth (“1984” ref.) is the only successful government department … lol.
Even Europe is waking up to the imperial plans to fight a war with Russia using Europe for the battleground … again. More and more European countries are sliding towards Russia and away from America. Which is only logical. Russia has resources Europe needs. America has nothing Europe needs.
“Germany Has Had Enough With US Neocons: Berlin “Stunned” At US Desire For War In Ukraine”
“EU shows little appetite for more Russia sanctions”
“Dismantle NATO Now—-It’s A Relic That’s A Hotbed For Warmongers”
Plantagenet on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 8:06 pm
@Dubya
If obama isn’t responsible for the US bombing iraq and syria, then who is? Who do you think ordered the US troops back to Baghdad? Who do you think ordered the US military to attack Syria and Iraq?
You people really amaze me. The US went to war in Iraq and Syria 8 months ago and you don’t even know who ordered the US military to go to war.
The world must seem very mysterious to you.
CHEERS!
JuanP on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 8:07 pm
“Most Americans Favor Invading Syria and Iraq”
And so do I. My preferred choice would be for all American troops to return to the USA, all American military bases, secret prisons, and torture centers abroad to be closed, and for Americans to stop all their foreign interventions.
I am, however, a realistic person and know that that will not happen. The USA will continue waging wars, invading, and destroying other countries until they completely ruin their economy and they can’t keep it up any longer.
So, every time I read that the USA is going to war with this or that country, be it Venezuela, Russia, Iraq, or whatever, I am just extremely grateful that it is not Uruguay. I already had to live through a 13 year USA backed, organized, and trained military dictatorship that kidnapped, tortured, murdered, and disappeared anyone it wished.
If history repeats itself those School of the Americas graduates would have me and the vast majority of Uruguayans to deal with because we learned our lessons and we won’t be fooled again. I wouldn’t bet a penny on the oligarchs winning this time around. Free market capitalism has been thoroughly discredited in Uruguay. My country is firmly democratic and socialist, and proud of it.
So let the USA invade all the other countries in the world if that is what they want. I am a selfish bastard and I couldn’t care less. Just don’t mess with Uruguay. I am so glad we don’t have oil!
Plantagenet on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 8:09 pm
@ Makati
Perhaps it is possible for banks to own slaves in the Philippines where you live, but here in the US that sort of thing was ended with the Civil War.
Yes, people take out loans and have to pay them back to banks. That is far different then slavery.
If you don’t know the difference between repaying a bank loan and being enslaved, then please educate yourself.
Cheers!
Hugh Culliton on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 9:10 pm
Hey Juan: do you folks have room down there for a Canadian high school teacher and his family?
dubya on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 9:10 pm
It would be impossible for me to defend Obama’s support of the continuing 2001 Iraq invasion, and the 3 trillion dollar free market intervention from that little Global Financial Crisis, another example of how deep the Obama conspiracy runs.
“Who do you think ordered the US troops back to Baghdad?”
That is very funny Planetgenenet. I assume by the use of the verb “back to” you may have some insight as to how this whole middle east goat fuck began. Of course when it “began” might involve the Muslim invasion of the Byzantine empire – but I suppose that was Obama’s fault, too, nothing to do with the guy who declared “mission accomplished”.
dubya on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 9:14 pm
Sorry about that last post, I was implying that George Bush was involved in the Bankster bailout, not the fall of Byzantium.
Northwest Resident on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 9:19 pm
Looks like the glutster is taking a break from his constant refrain of “oil glut, oil glut” and returning to his obsessive compulsive Obamaphile roots. In either case, we are forced to endure nonstop ignorance and idiot-like pontifications.
clueless on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 9:27 pm
Brainwashed and conditioned Sheeples !!!
GregT on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 9:35 pm
The rich rule over the poor, And the borrower becomes the lender’s slave. Proverbs 22:7
People have understood this for at least 2000 years lil planter.
What bridge have you been hiding under?
JuanP on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 9:36 pm
Hugh, Uruguay welcomes immigrants that can support themselves or get a job contract, but it is very hard to make a living down there and crime is rampant in the capital right now. Many First World retirees and rich people move down there. The countryside and coastal resorts are very peaceful and quiet, great places to be if you don’t need to generate income.
Considering that you are in Canada, which I consider to be one of the best countries in the world to live in, despite its recent setbacks, I would stay where you are. 😉
Canada and Uruguay have some things in common, like high literacy, socialized education and healthcare systems, and relatively modern, liberal and open minded people in general. We are more like Europe in some ways than the other American countries.
Canadians are very well liked down there, though your current PM is not and neither are his policies, but we don’t blame the people because that is an universal problem.
GregT on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 9:44 pm
“Canadians are very well liked down there, though your current PM is not and neither are his policies”
Must be some smart people down there Juan.
Makati1 on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 11:15 pm
JuanP, perhaps GregT notices that the US is taking over/absorbing Canada into the North American Union and doesn’t see their sovereignty lasting much longer? The empire needs the cheap labor of Mexico and the resources of Canada to survive. Then they will build a big ‘wall’ around the North American continent and become isolationist again. We can only hope it happens before they start another world war.
Go Speed Racer. on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 11:43 pm
Well, according to this article, IS1S is a subsidiary of the US govt. So contact your DC senator and tell them to run it better.
dave thompson on Mon, 9th Mar 2015 11:52 pm
I do not believe this article for one second. The people of the USA are sick of wars and would rather the money be spent on the people right here in the USA.
GregT on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 12:12 am
“The people of the USA are sick of wars and would rather the money be spent on the people right here in the USA.”
The only problem with that dave. Drone strikes on the US wouldn’t go over very well.
American Idiot on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 12:18 am
Average American Idiot is braindead. It really doesn’t surprise me just how much corperate media has brainwashed these Idiots into serving their needs. Check the IQ of average American Idiot. It usually comes near thd bottom.
GregT on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 12:26 am
There are fewer American idiots then there are idiots in many other countries in the world. The average American IQ of 98, is actually 11 points above the average global IQ of 87.
You might want to try a different approach, otherwise you are making yourself look like an idiot, American Idiot.
Plantagenet on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 12:55 am
@Dubya
Your suggestion that the Muslim invasion of the Byzantine Empire was obama’s fault is silly.
If you knew anything about history you’d know it was the fault of Enrico Dandolo, the Doge of Venice, who traitorously sacked Byzantium in 1204 during the fourth crusade.
GregT on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 1:22 am
I will admit though American Idiot, the planter is definitely doing it’s best to support your conclusions.
HARM on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 1:30 am
Wow, amazing how dumb and easily led by the nose Americans are. We barely managed to (mostly) extricate ourselves from that horrific quagmire, and here we are sidling up to the Military Adventurism Bar for yet another round of “Mission Accomplished”.
It looks like 62% of America has developed a permanent form amnesia, where all of our galactic Middle East f**k-ups of the past decade and a half never happened –including the power vacuum the Cheney regime created, which MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR ISIS TO GAIN TERRITORY IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Oh, wait, I forgot… according to conservative alternate history, Saddam was responsible for 9-11 and in league with Bin Laden. My bad.
ISIS is indeed brutal, barbaric and yet is still NO CREDIBLE THREAT to the U.S. They don’t even possess a navy or nuclear weapons program, unlike say North Korea. Not to mention that the Iraqi Shia and Iranians are busy driving them out of Tikrit as we speak. What’s wrong with letting Arabs kill Arabs for a while?
A new war in Iraq? Sheer idiocy for anyone who does not own preferred stock in Raytheon or Northup Grumman. Sometimes the stupidity of my fellow Americans is unbelievable…
Plantagenet on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 1:50 am
The “Cheney regime” didn’t create the power vacuum. The “Obama regime” created the power vacuum when it pulled all the US troops out of Iraq in 2010.
Didn’t take long after that for ISIS to get started, take over huge swaths of Syria and Iraq, and start sharing Youtube videos of Muslim Sharia Law in action.
Perk Earl on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 2:14 am
People who are for war should either volunteer for duty or if their older and have kids, try to talk those kids into signing up.
In fact, they should have a hotline where people can call if they are pro-war. Have military personnel taking calls and making sales pitches to join up. Let’s see just how excited they are to hit boot camp and then get sent to the ME and fight ISIS.
HARM on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 3:11 am
“The “Cheney regime” didn’t create the power vacuum. The “Obama regime” created the power vacuum when it pulled all the US troops out of Iraq in 2010.”
Riiight… and it was sheer coincidence that all those American troops were there to begin with. And invading Iraq was totally “necessary” for the protection of the U.S. from all those WMDs we found.
Plant: a perfect example of that selective amnesia I was talking about.
Davy on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 4:39 am
You guys know me I am a flag waiver. That flag is upside down in a sign of distress. I am also dedicating to fighting anti-American abuse on this site. It is agenda driven and shows defects of intellect. In almost every case the anti-America open their mouths the drool of hypocrisy comes out with the stutter of agenda. In most cases I can show a corresponding example from these anti-American’s own nest. All nests have shit in them. Some worse than others. America generally has the most nest shit. I just despise the “your shit stinks and my does not attitude here”.
That said I am at a loss of words for any support for what the Americans are doing in the world with these war and their military. I have no support for the warrior culture. The MIC industrialization is unconsciousable. This is truly evil and something that must end and soon. We are consuming and wasting so many resources in a final blowout of BAU.
This final blow out should be dedicating the final critical resources to mitigation and adaptation actions and policies. Even these actions and policies are only going to help make the pain, suffering, and death a little kinder and gentler. We are facing a carrying capacity breach of billions that will require excess deaths over births by the tune of millions. Some analysis says 200MIL for a generation (http://www.paulchefurka.ca/Population.html).
How can one country that could do so much good do so much bad in this respect? The rest of the world is guilty but the degree is off the charts when one looks at spending and military involvement of the Americans. There is no support I can give for this. It is wrong and on the global scale with wrong rankings it is at the top. I will say this when the world start coming apart will this military muscle be put to better or worse uses. That is yet to be seen. Let’s admit we will need security and crisis management that requires military. It is not too late for a change.
Rodster on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 5:05 am
This is the same Michael Synder who’s concerned that the Russians have modernized their military while the US is cutting back. Hypocrite author !
American Idiot on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 5:15 am
This stupid country is beyond bankrupt. I have no clue how it keeps going. The real problem isn’t even oil, It’s WATER.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7h6mS7x-Rg
forbin on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 6:05 am
“Most Americans Favor Invading Syria and Iraq”
Well give them a gun and sent them across !
Geeessh !
Forbin
Satori on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 6:30 am
“Most Americans Favor Invading Syria and Iraq”
I wonder if the headline would ever be
“Most Americans Favor Sending THEIR Sons to Die in Syria and Iraq” ???
chicken hawks are a dime a dozen
Davy on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 6:39 am
Most Americans do not understand war and its consequences. It is distant and abstract. They are touched by it when the dead and maimed come home. I have a Purple Heart highway near me. Americans hate people that behead people. They don’t care about the complexities. They don’t have time for it. Most Americans are pre-occupied in survivals or are lazy couch potatoes eating junk food and watching stupid TV.
MSM propaganda is feeding them this horror. I am not convinced it is entirely true. There is so much photo shopping of the news today. What the hell can you believe? All I know is BAU is insane and most cultures are corrupted to varying degrees with no hope of a decouple from an insane globalized trap. Fasten the seatbelts folks the storm clouds of the shit storm are off in the distance.
American Idiot on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 8:00 am
Average American Idiot has no clue what a real war even looks like and too stupid to even care.
ghung on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 8:38 am
Pentagon: 7 in 10 Youths Would Fail to Qualify for Military Service
“The quality of people willing to serve has been declining rapidly,” the U.S. Army Recruiting Command’s commanding general says
Approximately 71% of the 34 million 17-to-24-year-olds in the U.S. would not qualify for military service because of reasons related to health, physical appearance and educational background, according to the Pentagon.
The ineligible typically includes those who are obese, those who lack a high school diploma or a GED, convicted felons, those taking prescription drugs for ADHD and those with certain tattoos and ear gauges, the Wall Street Journal reports, though some requirements can be waived….”
My nephew is a Marine recruiter and says it’s actually worse than that. About 80% of those that come in don’t even qualify to take the ASVAB (Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery) and about 25% of highschool graduates don’t pass. Note that the passing score (varies by military branch) is quite low. For reference, I’m not the brightest bulb on the tree and scored in the top 1%, and since then the test was ‘renormalized’, in 2002 (AKA: dumbed down,, and note the date).
Truth is, the vast majority of those who advocate sending more troops to the middle east couldn’t or wouldn’t go themselves.
Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery (ASVAB)
Davy on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 8:47 am
Yea G, but that number will improve with a sinking economy when skilled people can’t find civilian jobs and or the military cuts back. The military will always be an option for many of the best talent. That time is nearing IMHO. So I see little problem ahead because the economy is a dead man walking.
R1verat on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 8:51 am
It’s all good & well to support war until your ass is the one getting shipped out!
gdubya on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 9:02 am
Thanks planet, that was worth a laugh, too. So it is Obama’s fault that we are in the ME, because it his fault tht we pulled out of the ME.
Now I understand.
Steve O on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 10:12 am
“The “Cheney regime” didn’t create the power vacuum. The “Obama regime” created the power vacuum when it pulled all the US troops out of Iraq in 2010. ”
The troops were pulled because the Iraqi government would not agree to allow US forced to be stationed in their country after December 31, 2011. To continue to have troops would have requiring overthrowing the government and re-occupying the country.
GregT on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 10:14 am
“Americans hate people that behead people.”
They also hate people that unplug babies from their incubators, people that harbour terrorists and stockpile weapons of mass destruction, people that live in intricate networks of caves, and people that stand in the way of capitalism and mass consumerism.
In other words, they hate pretty much whomever they are told to hate, without question.
BobInget on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 10:48 am
USD is on a tear. Puling even with the euro.
This would normally be construed as typical pre-war reactionary BS. Just yesterday
European Central banks began a Trillion eu
bond buying program designed to stimulate
Euroup’s flagging deflationary economies.
Since Republican Senators hijacked Iranian
nuclear talks, that ‘Doomsday Clock’ moved
ahead a minute.
We ‘might’ go top war in the MiddleEast is like saying the sun ‘might’ come up Wednesday morning. ‘We’ are already at war
with IS. Call it conflict you wish, this is an international war for control of oil resources.
Most here won’t remember our “Police Action” in Korea. That’s what we called it,
a ‘police action’.
Iran is taking over Iraq’s defenses.
Translated, Iran (and Russia) could control
Iraq’s oil supplies.
It’s way late to be sending US troops back to Iraq in any great numbers.
It’s way late for Israel to bomb Iran. They could try nuclear weapons but that would spoil the oil and everyone (still alive) would be pissed at Jews world-wide. Just as people are judging innocent Muslims today.
I don’s see any good outcome here, do you?
Make plans.
BobInget on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 11:10 am
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/10/nydn-blasts-iran-letter_n_6836392.html
This so called ‘letter’ will tear the GOP and Americans apart.
Blowback from the Islamic World is far more serious. Our ONLY allies now in the region
are Israel and Saudi Arabia.
Having already fought two wars for this ‘odd couple’, Is it time to cut them lose?
We could still manage by buying up China’s
loans in Nigeria, Ecuador and Venezuela.
Today we could even buy distressed Canadian oil companies. Two hundred billion spent this way would insure a steady (oil) supply in our hemisphere.
Instead, we get really insane and try, once again the failed tactic of war.
http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/james-j-puplava/oil-money-and-war
Plantagenet on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 11:15 am
@Dubya
Yes it is ironic. Obama campaigned in 2008 on a pledge to end the war in Iraq and after pulling out all US troops from Iraq in 2010 has now stumbled and bumbled his way into two new wars in….Syria AND Iraq.
You know what they say—those who won’t learn from the past are bound to repeat it.
PeterEV on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 12:55 pm
There was a movie parody on Richard Nixon where the actor president said with deep conviction: “When you go ’em by the balls, their hearts and minds will surely follow.” Europe stays warm and cooks their food using significant amounts of Russian Natural Gas. If I were European, “3 hots and a warm cot” sure beats the hell out of swallowing our BS over the Ukraine.
I saw depicted in the Exxon 2015: A View to 2040, where Europe’s energy demand is predicted to far exceed their own internal production by several factors. Europe in general is hurting.
If war breaks out with Russia, how can we safe guard our own energy supplies that come in from Venezuela, Mexico, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, etc. **AND** guarantee we can make up any losses from Russia to Europe??? Supertankers and refineries are mighty big targets. I’m sure Russia can hit the broad side of a refinery and a supertanker or two. We really need to rethink our strategies and tactics.
If we are going to fight ISIS, we need to have our act together. So far, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. and our other wars and policies say we don’t. We ended up with a lot of unintended consequences such as ISIS.
Plantagenet on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 1:46 pm
@PeterEV
There is no “if we are going to fight ISiS” about it. Obama has already taken the US to war with ISiS for six months now and has asked Congress for authority to send in ground troops.
I suggest you read a newspaper occasionally—-they print all the latest news. Its fascinating.
Apneaman on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 1:52 pm
PeterEV.
Ignore the talking Plant. He is the resident Fuck Tard here.
Plantagenet on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 1:54 pm
@apeman
Your potty mouth is overflowing. Please flush before it dribbles out again.
Cheers!
Plantagenet on Tue, 10th Mar 2015 1:57 pm
AND Peter, allow me to repeat the thought I wrote before we were so rudely interrupted….the US is bombing ISIS right now. The facts are clear—-Obama took the US into a war against ISIS 6 months ago.