Missile intercepted near Riyadh

77 Comments on "Missile intercepted near Riyadh"

Cloggie on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 7:36 am 



Iran has KSA targeted, via its Houthi proxy, not because they are Sunnis, but because they a US ally, well the “house of Saud” is, the KSA population not so much. The KSA junta fears the grassroots Muslim Brotherhood, supported by Qatar. The situation of the KSA regime is precarious indeed. The last remaining US domino in the ME, together with Egypt, that also fell in the hands of the MB briefly, until the Egyptian army intervened, after the nod from Washington.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/19/america-helping-saudi-arabia-bomb-yemen-consequences

Davy on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 7:54 am 



Dumb, you don’t understand the ME. You are just broadcasting a message that fits your Eurotard Empire agenda. Your agenda is unable to take into account the intricacies of politics, economics, and religion. IOW, you are a joke parading as an expert and one who should be ignored. Anyone who uses empty links to describe complex issues is suspect as an expert. FRAUD

Cloggie on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 8:13 am 



Clogmeister, with all due respect, you don’t understand the ME, sir.

And you do, right? Well then, defeat my analysis. Should be a piece of cake for a Great Thinker like you.

Of course you won’t and instead run with your tail between your legs. As per usual.

Davy on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 8:37 am 



Dumb, your understanding of the ME revolves around mixing up facts and complex events to support your simpleton fantasy Future Eurotard Empire. The real facts of the ME don’t matter. One needs to only witness all your empty (dubious) links that just support your personal commentary. FRAUD

Cloggie on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 9:44 am 



Clogmeister, sir, your understanding of the ME revolves around mixing up facts and complex events to support your simpleton fantasy Future Eurotard Empire. The real facts of the ME don’t matter.

Davy, the ME mastermind, claims: Iran will be wiped off the map militarily

Cloggie gives a detailed analysis why it would be an extreme bad idea for the US to attack Iran, see:

http://peakoil.com/generalideas/the-economic-end-game-continues/comment-page-1#comment-408794

Davy on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 4:59 am
Cloggie on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 6:15 am

As always, Davy runs from a real debate, the intellectual lightweight that he is.

Let alone the morality of it all, why the US should even have the right to do such a thing.

But for most Americans, like Davy and boat and supertard, these considerations are null and void. We are exceptionalist and that is sufficient ground to attack.

Sound friendly advice: this is not 1941 where you could outsource the heavy lifting to the USSR. Now you are completely on your own and that should scare you.

Davy on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 10:13 am 



“Cloggie gives a detailed analysis why it would be an extreme bad idea for the US to attack Iran, see:”
Empty link dumb n dutch. Please give the words to support your assertion otherwise you are a fraud.

“As always, Davy runs from a real debate, the intellectual lightweight that he is…Let alone the morality of it all, why the US should even have the right to do such a thing.”

What are you talking about dumb? You don’t even have any words for your assertions just noise. Fraud.

You are a spitting image of the failure mad kat. Whining, crying, and gnashing your teeth in desperation for being neutered and moderated

joe on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 10:34 am 



Seriously Davy, the US couldn’t defeat Al Qeada in Iraq in the sunni triangle and resorted to buying sheiks to switch sides in awaking councils, then they sat by while Iran mopped the floor with them politically leading to a switch back and a new name (isis). How’s that turned out? It turns out the way to beat isis was to empower divisions of pro-Iran shia arab militias who now occupy kirkuk without as much as a peep from Trump.
As the missile, no such thing imho. Fake news as a cover story for Mohammad bin Salman closing Rihad airport while he rounded up all his political enemies last night. It seems there was a coup d’etat last night and nobody in the western media is talking about it.

Duncan Idaho on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 10:48 am 



And this was 1980’s technology.
Just think if they get their hands on some even 10 year old missiles?
SA would be helpless against a 10 year old sizzler.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3M-54_Klub

Davy on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 11:39 am 



Remember Fallugiah joe? Depends on how you describe defeat. Their solution of paying the local Sunni’s worked fantastic until the Shi’a screwednit all up Joe you are like dumb n Dutch being shallow on definition and motivated by anti-Americanism.

Cloggie on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 12:26 pm 



British nationalist Tommy Robinson and very popular in Germany, attending 3-year anniversary of Pegida, that is more alive than ever. They paved the way for the AfD that directly managed 12%.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAGuzIeH020

Speech Robinson 4:15.

The tide is turning in Europe.

And they are all in favor of Russia and Trump. George Soros not so much.

Davy on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 3:37 pm 



“Preparing For EU Collapse”
http://tinyurl.com/y7tz7rno
http://tinyurl.com/yd7zf8gq

“According to SPIEGEL information, the Bundeswehr played through social and political trends until 2040 for the first time. Strategists are also developing a worst-case scenario. The Bundeswehr believes that an end to the West in its current form over the next few decades is possible. This is according to information from Der Spiegel from the “Strategic Perspective 2040”, which was adopted at the end of February by the top of the Ministry of Defense and since then kept under wraps. For the first time in its history, the Bundeswehr’s 102-page document shows how social trends and international conflicts could influence German security policy in the coming decades. The study sets the framework in which the Bundeswehr of the future is likely to move. The paper does not yet provide any concrete conclusions for equipment and strength. In one of the six scenarios (“The EU in Disintegration and Germany in Reactive Mode”), the authors assume a “multiple confrontation”. The future projection describes a world in which the international order erodes after “decades of instability”, value systems worldwide diverge and globalization is stopped. “The EU enlargement has been largely abandoned, other states have left the community, Europe has lost its global competitiveness,” write the Bundeswehr strategists: “The increasingly disorderly, sometimes chaotic and conflict-prone world has dramatically changed the security environment of Germany and Europe.” In the fifth scenario (“West against East”), some eastern EU countries are freezing the state of European integration while others have “joined the Eastern bloc”. In the fourth scenario (“multipolar competition”), extremism is on the rise and there are EU partners who “even occasionally seem to seek a specific approach to Russia’s” state capitalist model “. The document expressly makes no prognosis, but all scenarios are “plausible with the 2040 time horizon,” write the authors. The simulations were developed by scientists of the Federal Armed Forces Planning Office.”

Cloggie on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 3:54 pm 



Doomer Dave, any time he needs some collapse pointer for Europe he so desperately needs, he always ends with Nicole Foss, a housewife with collapsenik opinions and housewife aura from outpost New Zealand. It is al he can find and carefully hides the link in tinyurl. Perhaps nobody verifies.

https://youtu.be/nvoFJsqF1wQ

Keep looking Doomer Dave, perhaps you find more prestigeous sources.

Tonight 24+ white folks were murdered in a Texan church.

Davy on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 4:00 pm 



Dumb n dutch, did you notice I referenced a Spiegel article that highlighted a Budeswehr report. I did that not because I believe that Europe will collapse and the US will prosper. I believe they both face collapse scenarios together. You on the other hand always talk about the US collapse and a golden Euro Age. I just moderated that delusional outlook and it sure got you upset. Cha Ching.

joe on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 4:03 pm 



Fallujah happened in worst political circumstances. Saying that the worlds most technological army could only at great effort and cost fight off a poorly armed rebel army and ultimately give it up and 13 years later see it turned over to Iranian backed militants should tell you allot about the warcrime of invading then, and failures now in the light of isis and current events. The US is clearly losing influence.

Davy on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 4:09 pm 



BS, Joe, the rebel army you talk about was a very effective force as any such force is in asymmetric warfare. The marines went in to Fallujah and cleaned house very effectively. That is a very dangerous and tough undertaking. Obviously you don’t know shit about basics ground fighting in an urban environment. You don’t know shit about the Sunni’s in that conflict either. We didn’t give up shit Joe, Iraq was never ours dumbass. Iraqis took full control of their destiny. If they are cozying up to the Iranians that is their business don’t ya think????

makati1 on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 5:52 pm 



Cloggie, the murders are just ballooning in Police State America. Faux terrorists or just frustrated Americans with guns and drugs? Time will tell.

makati1 on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 5:56 pm 



joe, the US is losing everything. And its military is NOT the “most technological”. Russia has better missiles and planes and China also has better missiles. Russia has the best air defense system in the world, bar none.

The US cannot even build a plane that works after 14 years and billions of dollars spent. Not to mention navy ships that cannot even make it across the Pacific without needing a tow. lol

Davy on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 6:08 pm 



Mad Kat, how many men are under arms on the Korean peninsulaj?

A 1.4Mil
B 500K
C 10MIL

MASTERMIND on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 6:11 pm 



This world is going to shit so fast i can’t imagine why anyone would want to have any kids anymore.

makati1 on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 6:32 pm 



MM, I am glad my kids are grown and are independent. I would not trade places with them for all the gold not in Fort Knox. But, they have already lived 40+ mostly happy years and probably will survive for many more. They have kids and those may only have a short life, but, that IS life in the real world. Many millions around the world don’t even live to see adulthood.

Davy on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 6:45 pm 



Wow, Mad Kat, is that how you describe your grandkids. How friggen heartless.

sidzepp on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 6:53 pm 



Meanwhile, back to the article. I imagine many of the Saudi missiles and bombs targeted innocent civilians, also.

makati1 on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 7:02 pm 



Anyone doubting the losing America should take a few minuter to read this:

“The Lockheed/Martin F-35 Turkey “One A Day In Tampa Bay””

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/11/05/the-lockheedmartin-f-35-turkey-one-a-day-in-tampa-bay/#more-162886

“Its reliance on over-the-horizon long-range detection makes its importance of a stealthy design open to debate. In order to detect an enemy aircraft it has to turn on its radar. That’s like shining a flashlight in the dark. The enemy can see exactly where YOU are.

Stealth also depends on the type of radar that is looking for it. The Russians have simply added a number of different radar wavelengths. The old longer wavelengths will detect most modern stealth designs and it’s far easier to just add more frequencies to their search radar than it is to change the aircraft as built.

The Russians have also developed infrared detection to a fine science.

Infrared is something that was probably more advanced in our planes half a century ago than it is now. It’s just not jazzy enough for the generals and admirals. It has to have more flashing lights, buzzers, and cost a lot more to suit them.

With all of the cost overruns, design flaws, and software problems, the F-35 is still unreliable. They can’t even seem to make an oxygen system that works properly. They had that figured out in the 1930’s!!! …”

Slip sliding down the slope…

makati1 on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 7:03 pm 



sidzepp, targeting civilians started in WW1. It is nothing new.

makati1 on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 7:37 pm 



“The number one reason we don’t shoot down North Korea’s missiles is that we cannot.”

http://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2017/09/no-we-cannot-shoot-down-north-koreas-missiles/141070/?oref=d-dontmiss

“Our anti-missile systems have never been realistically tested against any of these simple countermeasures. This is one reason that the Pentagon’s current director of operational testing is much more cautious in his assessments than missile defense program officials. “GMD has demonstrate a limited capability to defend the U.S. Homeland from small numbers of simple intermediate-range or intercontinental ballistic missile threats launched from North Korea or Iran,” he reports. Moreover, it is impossible, he says, to “quantitatively assess GMD performance due to lack of ground tests” and “the reliability and availability of the operational GBI’s [Ground-Based Interceptors] is low, and the MDA continues to discover new failure modes during testing.”

Yet, we have spent $40 billion on the GMD system and over $320 billion on scores of missile defense systems over the past few decades. You have to wonder exactly what these tests are for: give the troops the protection they need or give the contractors the next program payment?”
Slip sliding away…

MASTERMIND on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 8:37 pm 



Davy: madkat has no love for his own family members. He left them to die a horrible death….That he wishes happens to them almost every single day. He cant wait for it to happen…I bet he molested some of his children and grandchildren that is why he wishes them dead..to protect his secrets…

Davy on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 10:54 pm 



There is more to it than just radar. It is a systems game with air defense. This fighter is multi-role also. Yea, price is too high but it is still a performer.

“Pilots Say F-35 Superior Within Visual Range: Dogfight Criticisms Laid To Rest”
http://tinyurl.com/ybhuaesp

“You can read what the flight demo is intended to demonstrate on the handout below. I asked one of the Air Force pilots, Lt. Col. Scott “Cap” Gunn, here whether the F-35 would win when fighting close-up with an enemy fighter. His answer was simple: “Without a doubt.” Gunn told reporters at a briefing here that he had gone up against a friend in an F-16 a few months ago. Though the F-35 “performed very well,” he made clear that it hadn’t been dominant. They flew again recently and the F-16 pilot was amazed by the improvement in the F-35’s performance. “What have they done to your jet?” the pilot said, according to Gunn. “The difference is we have learned how to fly the jet… and better understand where its advantages are.”

“F-35 Demo Pilot: Paris Performance Will ‘Crush Years Of Misinformation’”
http://tinyurl.com/yculq22a

“He will start with an afterburner takeoff, almost immediately pointing his nose to the sky and letting the aircraft climb away essentially vertically. This impressive move is unique to the F-22 and the F-35, he said. Next, Flynn will reverse back in front of the crowd, and perform a “square loop” to show the aircraft’s instantaneous pitch capability and high angle-of-attack (AOA) maneuverability. Then he will turn around, reverse back in front of the crowd, and perform a slow-speed, high-AOA pass. Afterward, he will light the afterburner and fly straight up into the sky once again. From there, Flynn will pull up vertically in front of the crowd and execute a maximum AOA “power loop,” where the aircraft flips on its back—another signature Raptor move. Then he will initiate a spiral at 50 degrees AOA, called a “pedal turn,” which he says will be the most impressive part of the entire routine. After reversing again in front of the crowd, the last move is a maximum-G, 360-deg. turn, which highlights the maximum-rate, minimum-radius-turn capability of the aircraft, Flynn said. The F-35 in its current 3i configuration is limited to 7g; when the fighter gets its full war-fighting capability with the final 3F software, it will be able to pull 9gs. “This aircraft down low in this environment is an absolute monster,”

“Here’s what I’ve learned so far dogfighting in the F-35”: a JSF pilot’s first-hand account”
http://tinyurl.com/gsdnedc

To them, the stealth fighter is the unparalleled future of not only aeronautics, but of warfare as well. “It’s not just an airplane,” Gary L. North, a retired four-star general and former fighter pilot, told The Times of Israel on the sidelines of the conference…..The interoperability of the F-35’s electronic systems creates an “internet of the sky,” putting together all the information collected by every aircraft in the area into one complete picture that can then be relayed to ground troops and naval forces, he said. The aircraft’s advanced computer system makes the actual flying “very easy,” and allows the pilot to be “less of a technician and more of a tactician,” North said.

“Soon there will only be two kinds of aircraft — stealth fighters and targets.” Air superiority is a game of cat and mouse between aircraft and air defense systems. A stealth airplane can only operate for so long before an anti-aircraft system is developed that can find and destroy it, and an air defense system can only shoot down enemy planes for so long before a new missile or electronic countermeasure is created to neutralize it. The F-35 is a “fundamental shift” in that dynamic and will remain “predominant for decades to come,” according to North, who now serves as a Lockheed Martin executive.

Davy on Sun, 5th Nov 2017 11:04 pm 



MM, mad kat show he is heartless to people. I mean how many people here wish people to die. He then want respect as if he deserves it. Most here don’t want to see anyone die. I don’t talk about wiping a people off the earth. This is something mad kat does routinely with a passion.

makati1 on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 12:40 am 



MM, I love my family as much as you love yours. They have all been invited to join me here, but so far they refuse. They don’t want to give up their cushy life in the US even as they see it dying.

A few are like you, and a few others here, who have their heads deep in the sand pretending that it isn’t happening. I hope they change their mind before it is too late. But, they are all mature adults and have free agency to do as they choose. I cannot force them to do anything. Only give them an option. Their decision, just as I made mine.

joe on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 4:47 am 



Seriously Davy, you are debating the ‘success’ of the Second Battle of Fallujah? No way in any sense was that battle a success. Like Hue city in the end it was nothing cause regardless of defeating battlefield enemies the situation for Iraq did not change one bit, and after that ‘success’ the American and allies retreated to fortified cities leaving Iraq to what would become ISIS and Rashid militias who today are fighting it out with the net result of US ‘victory’ being Europe once again flooded with millions more of muslim refugees that Europeans were never asked for their consent to accept. US policies are evil, pro-wealthy and ignorant. The US has become exactly what it’s founders fled from and hated.

joe on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 4:52 am 



Btw, I do understand you are a patriot Davy, and I make a big allowance for that, but patriotism is not supposed to accompany ignorance. Trump turned out to be a marshmallow coward who caved to the deep state and may still get impeached anyway for mopping the floor with Jeb and the CIA/Bush family, it should have been President Sanders except Killary bought up the DNC (finally truth coming out there). The rich are selling out the world and the end of the age of oil, soon it will be like Hobbes war of all against all. Good luck dude, no more comment for you on this matter.

Cloggie on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 5:47 am 



Seriously Davy, you are debating the ‘success’ of the Second Battle of Fallujah? No way in any sense was that battle a success.

Come on joe, don’t you know that facts are “anti-American”, well, in Davy’s view that is?

Seriously, one of the best ways to tell that the NWO is on the way out is when a hard-wired British pro-American and anti-European like joe, begins to expose the illusions of hard-wired imperialists like Doomer-Dave.

Btw, I do understand you are a patriot Davy

He isn’t, not in a long shot. To my own discredit, I thought that too for 5 full years and was soft on him accordingly. I thought he valued his European roots and that he just didn’t understand history too well, like most Americans (or Europeans for that matter).

The truth is he is 100% loyal to (((Washington))) and he would bomb Europe again, any pretext would do. Davy supports the idea that the world should be under American control. And that constant talk about “jews running a mysterious deep state”, well that’s just a “conspiracy theory”, he doesn’t fully understand.

Smarter hard-wired British like joe and even stronger Antius and TheNationalist begin to hint that they finally see through the machinations that has brought their respective countries to the brink of possible extinction, 72 years after the demise of the Austrian, who basically had the same message.

We’re making progress at this late hour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtpGPCMHwHc

Idiots like Davy support the demise of European civilization. It is high time to get tough with the likes of him.

makati1 on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 5:58 am 



Cloggie, I think Davy supports the demise of every civilization not American. That is why I stopped reading his rants and trying to rebut his delusional view of the world. I prefer to debate against someone who is not blind and deaf to reality. Even if they give me pause and cause me to rethink my position. Unfortunately, there are too many “Davys” in the US who prefer war to reason.

Davy on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 6:30 am 



“MM, I love my family as much as you love yours” mad kat, you love yourself and the idea of your self being safe and secure and all others stupid and unsafe. You want to be able to tell people you are a success and then tell them they are a failure. You are lonely and want friends but you turn on them when their agenda does not fit yours. You are always talking about murder and death so I doubt you are a very nice person your family wants to be with and probably the reason you dumped them to live in a cheap 3rd world club med.

Davy on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 6:30 am 



“Seriously Davy, you are debating the ‘success’ of the Second Battle of Fallujah?”
First Joe, Iraq was a mistake and a tragedy. Fallujah was a battle success Joe. The marines cleared a city at the cost of 100 lives and countless Iraq’s. From a battle stand point the US succeeded. It was also the beginning of the rethink on how to deal with an insurgency. Many proven changes occurred following this battle. Iraqi was not ours and at a point it needed to be handed over and back to them. That was a process that took much longer than most anticipated because of countless political mistakes. Many politicians ignorant of the reality of hatred in Iraq thought all the oil wealth could buy stability but they were wrong. The sectarian hatred could not be won. It was a political mistake and Iraq was what I call the Empire breaker. Yet, in no way was the US military beaten in combat. In fact they are highly regarded for how they embrace alternative ways to fight. One such way was enlisting the tribal Sunni to police their areas for pay. That was brilliant and would have worked until the Shia’s took the program over.

You dumbass anti-Americans only have WW2 type military reality to offer as your understanding. You anti-Americans just want the US to lose in any way you can dream up. It is already in your decision this is why you are so intellectually dishonest and why I fight you daily. Be balanced and effective or I will drop you. You are talking about me not me criticizing you.

Your countries are part of the evil Joe and yes you consented by not saying anything and then profiting on the spoils of war. You also consented by sending troops. One thing about you Eurotards you are always ready to make a buck on a bad situation and then point your fingers. You were accomplices and complicit in the Evil. In fact you Eurotards invited the Euroevil that has destroyed a planet. You are the evil ones too English Joe.

Davy on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 6:43 am 



“Btw, I do understand you are a patriot Davy, and I make a big allowance for that, but patriotism is not supposed to accompany ignorance.”
Joe, you are an anti-American and I compensate for that when you say things that are rational and logical and not part of your blame and complain game. You need to look in the mirror more. You are one of those Euro’s that is here to criticize the US. Most of your comments are anti-American much like dumb n Dutch. You either don’t want to admit your own complicity in all the world’s problems or you are oblivious that you are responsible. People like you and dumb and Dutch rationalize others as the problem and you as the aggrieved.

“The rich are selling out the world and the end of the age of oil, soon it will be like Hobbes war of all against all. Good luck dude, no more comment for you on this matter.”
We are selling out the world Joe. You and I are guilty. You Eurotards invented this madness and now you want to blame it on someone anyone but yourselves. I grew up Eurotard as an American. We are your worst protégé but we are yours. Yea, we are the rich ones who are on this blog. The other 5BIL live in the poor world. Somehow I don’t think you wish me good luck. You hate Americans because you hate yourself. People who hate themselves always blame others. The alternative is to be like dumb and Dutch and mad kat. They love themselves and hate American. That is the binary shit we have on this board.

Davy on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 6:47 am 



“Idiots like Davy support the demise of European civilization. It is high time to get tough with the likes of him.”
Somehow I think I got tough on your lies and distortions dumb n Dutch. I moderate and neuter your message daily now. You are a little smarter than mad kat but not much. Remember the Korean peninsula? I think you have been muzzled and you don’t like it. LOL

TheNationalist on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 6:47 am 



The Saudis must have realised they have lost in Syria. In a fit of rage the “king” (camel fucker and modern slavery enabler) has turned on his fellow shieks who coughed up the most money for the CIA wahabist rebels.

Cloggie on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 8:09 am 



Remember the Korean peninsula? I think you have been muzzled and you don’t like it. LOL

No you haven’t, 10 million armed forces it is, standing army + reserves (conscription army).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_People%27s_Army

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Korea_Armed_Forces

Davy on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 8:31 am 



Dumb n Dutch lives in a world of fantasy. He fully believes numbers when they support his agenda and like Mad Kat he calls numbers fake that don’t. The truth is blind to human positions but dumb does not care about he truth. Dumb lives in his little Napoleon world of grand armies and greatness instead of a world of grey and ambiguity. Dumb there are not 10MIL men under arms nor could there be. Those are paper numbers like your paper fantasy world.

onlooker on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 8:44 am 



Seriously, who cares about numbers of soldiers. They might as well be wooden soldiers given the type of destruction weapons many armies have at their disposal in current times.

Cloggie on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 8:47 am 



It now finally begins to dawn in former British colony Canada (after the war it became a US colony) that the British were to blame for WW1…

http://www.eurocanadian.ca/2017/11/remembering-world-war-one-race-war-between-germanic-peoples.html#more

The one thing we would also have avoided is a race war among the three great Germanic peoples: Germany, Britain (made up of Ango-Saxons) and France (the Franks). Germany accused Britain of being race traitors. The crowds in Berlin were right. It was, and we were.

…without digging deeper into the backgrounds of the disaster.

You can read that in this book written by Scottish historians:

https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-History-Secret-Origins-First-ebook/dp/B00CPR6IWK/ref=sr_1_1

Summary here:

http://tinyurl.com/yak84doo

Davy on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 8:58 am 



Blame goes Around to everyone and failure includes your Nazi heros. You are little more than a propaganda peddler. Twisting facts and history to your end. You are a disgrace to the truth. It is easy to follow your lies of we are right and you are wrong. FRAUD

Cloggie on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 9:10 am 



Twisting facts and history to your end. You are a disgrace to the truth.

Hookay. Apparently you know what the truth is. So tell us what the truth is of WW1.

Tic-toc-tic-toc

Of course that was a joke. Lightweight Dave will NEVER EVER engage in a discussion about history because he knows he will get his sorry little ass kicked. Davy is so lightweight it would make a balloon filled with hydrogen blush.

Davy on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 9:49 am 



dumb, you interjected the topic of ww1. What does that have to really do with today and the issues we are discussing? All it is for you to blame others for your failures and talk yourself up. People who brag and shag are so boring. People who are real live reality good and bad. Can you stay on topic instead of reading your 1000 history revision references? It is the same old copy and paste BS. We are sick of your WordPress puke. You are one big snake peddler.

Cloggie on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 9:58 am 



As I predicted Lightweight-Dave weasels his way out of a discussion he knows he would lose anyway.

We are sick of your WordPress puke.

Really? Until recently you used to praise me into high heavens for my renewable energy knowledge as expressed in my blog.

But if it contradicts standard western/US empire propaganda concerning history, Davy boy gets mad and begins to foam and display further signs of intellectual impotence.

Angry Dave is one big walking billboard for the empire. It is as if Davy tries to sell 1950s vacuum cleaners in 2017.

joe on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 10:21 am 



Cloggie, one thing that’s certainly doomed is your vision of a strong Europe. People see how the EU did nothing to stop Spain from steam rolling Catalonians institutions, it certainly made London clap for joy and put Sinn Fein and the SNP on notice. Politically its a long term mistake. Then again we probobly don’t have a long term to worry about at the rate things seem to be heating up.

Davy on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 10:29 am 



Dumb, I appreciate your renewable energy contribution partially. You have turned the whole issue into a cult and mixed it up with you fantasy racist Nazi Empire talk. I can sort through the drivel and the BS to get some good information. I have to do the same with MSM. You are still dumb and oblivious to reality. You, like your friend Mad Kat live the deadly serious game of self advancement with a corresponding agenda of hate. You destroy the truth with history revisions and statements of fact in regards to a fantasy future. SAD

Cloggie on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 11:05 am 



Cloggie, one thing that’s certainly doomed is your vision of a strong Europe. People see how the EU did nothing to stop Spain from steam rolling Catalonians institutions

Why should they? It is entirely a matter between right-wing Madrid and globalist Barcelona. Barcelona lost. The EU is a contract between national states, not secessionist wannabees. Brussels displayed the same attitude vis-a-vis Scotland. Secession does NOT mean automatic membership of the EU. Neither for Scotland nor for Catalonia. The Catalans should be content with the high level of autonomy they already enjoyed.

You are still dumb and oblivious to reality. You, like your friend Mad Kat live the deadly serious game of self advancement with a corresponding agenda of hate. You destroy the truth with history revisions and statements of fact in regards to a fantasy future.

Standard MSM/Antifa empty talk: “nazi”, “hate”. You have no respect for yourself, your civilization or the future of your children, who have to live in third world USA, just because coward PC leftist daddy didn’t have the balls to stand up for their interests. You are such a spineless weasel and you entirely deserve the future you are creating for yourself and your country: after the fall of the $, GDP/capita lower than Romania.

Cloggie on Mon, 6th Nov 2017 1:16 pm 



Cloggie, one thing that’s certainly doomed is your vision of a strong Europe.

Standard Anglo wishful thinking.

https://www.socialeurope.eu/my-hero-of-the-year

Europe, USA, China? Let’s Hear It For The EU

I would like to nominate the average, everyday EU citizen as the “Hero of the Year.”… just recently the European Commission has boasted that “the European economy has entered its fifth year of recovery” and that growth in the eurozone will be even  stronger than previously forecast. Indeed, growth in the European Union has outstripped that of the United States over the last two years, now standing above 2% for the Union as a whole and at 2.2% for the euro area…  It [EU] has as many Fortune 500 companies as the US, India and Russia combined (140)… While there are clear differences between member states, there is an identifiable “European Way” that has become the global leader in supporting economic fairness and a strong middle class… The EU also has been the world’s leader in reaching another crucial goal – environmental sustainability… Indeed, one of Silicon Valley’s dirty little secrets is that its companies don’t create that many jobs. Facebook employs only about 12,000 direct, full-time employees. Google and Apple directly employ around 70,000 each, and Uber, Airbnb and Twitter employ about five to ten thousand direct employees each. These are small-time job creators compared to traditional economy companies like BMW, Mercedes, Bosch, Volkswagen, Ford, IBM and Siemens, which each employ hundreds of thousands of people… Germany’s Mittelstand generates 25m jobs; Facebook, Google, Amazon, and Apple combined have total employment less than one percent of that… Europe’s social capitalism is clearly the global leader in several crucial dimensions more so than either China’s state capitalism or America’s Wall Street-Silicon Valley capitalism.