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Kunstler: Twelve Ham Sandwiches with Russian Dressing

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So, former FBI lawyer Lisa Page declined to testify before a congressional committee because she didn’t feel like it. Apparently we’re now a rule-of-law-optional nation. Until recently, we were merely reality-optional. That was fun, but when officers of the country’s leading law enforcement agency go optional on standard legal procedure, like answering subpoenas, then we’re truly in the land where anything goes (and nothing matters).

After two years of Trump-inspired hysteria, it’s pretty obvious what went on in the bungled Obama-Hillary power handoff of 2016 and afterward: the indictable shenanigans of candidate Hillary and her captive DNC prompted a campaign of agit-prop by the US Intel “community” to gaslight the public with a Russian meddling story that morphed uncontrollably into a crusade to make it impossible for Mr. Trump to govern. And what’s followed for many months is an equally bungled effort to conceal, deceive, and confuse the issues in the case by Democratic Party partisans still in high places. It was very likely begun with the tacit knowledge of President Obama, though he remained protected by a shield of plausible deniability. And it was carried out by high-ranking officials who turned out to be shockingly unprofessional, and whose activities have been disclosed through an electronic data evidence trail.

Mr. Trump’s visit to confer with Russian President Putin in Helsinki seems to have provoked a kind of last-gasp effort to keep the increasingly idiotic Russian election meddling story alive — with Robert Mueller’s ballyhooed indictment of twelve “Russian intel agents” alleged to have “hacked” emails and computer files of the DNC and Hillary’s campaign chairman John Podesta. The gaping holes in that part of the tale have long been unearthed so I’ll summarize as briefly as possible:

1) the bandwidth required to transfer the files has been proven to be greater than an internet hack might have conceivably managed in the time allowed and points rather to a direct download into a flash drive device. 2) the DNC computer hard drives, said to be the source of the alleged hacking, disappeared while in the custody of the US Intel Community (including the FBI). 3) the authenticity of the purloined emails by Mr. Podesta and others has never been disputed, and they revealed a lot of potentially criminal behavior by them. 4) Mr. Mueller must know he will never get twelve Russian intel agents into a US courtroom, so the entire exercise is a joke and a fraud. In effect, he’s indicted twelve ham sandwiches with Russian dressing.

Tragically, the American public is led to take this ploy seriously by a morally compromised news media, especially CNN and the The New York Times. The latter outfit is so afflicted with a case of the Russian meddling vapors that it ran this laughable headline at the top of its front page yesterday: “Just Sitting Down With Trump, Putin Comes Out Ahead.” Gosh, what’s the message there? Don’t even bother talking to foreign heads of state, especially in the interest of improving relations?

The salient question that persons in authority might ask out-loud is how come so many officers of the Intel Community have not been hauled in front of grand juries to answer for their obviously incriminating behavior. Mr Mueller is perhaps too busy chasing Russian phantoms to draw up a bill of particulars against characters such as former CIA chief (now CNN shill) John Brennan, who apparently orchestrated the early chapters of the Russian meddling ruse, Bruce and Nellie Ohr, who ushered the DNC’s Steele Dossier into the FBI’s warrant machinery, fired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, who managed the Steele Dossier and its spinoff mischief as an “insurance policy” against Mr. Trump, Peter Strzok, who executed the “insurance policy,” and, of course, Ms. Page, his paramour, who decided that testifying before Congress was beneath her dignity. These and probably many others.

Tragically, also, these matters can only be fully corrected by the very Department of Justice that includes under its management the rogue FBI. Who else can formally and legally bring these cases before grand juries? The DOJ appears intent on preventing that from ever happening. Congress has so far omitted enforcing its subpoenas or using its impeachment power to dislodge obdurate DOJ officials. Mr. Trump, for now apparently, has declined to use his inherent executive powers to clean out this rats nest, say by removing secrecy shields from many of the documents at issue in the DOJ’s possession — most likely because he can’t afford to be seen “meddling” in the tangled proceedings. The net result of all this subterfuge, inaction, and gaslighting, is the defeat of the rule-of-law generally in American life. This ought to be taken seriously. If it’s asking too much of the system, then the system itself will eventually not be taken seriously, and that will be the end of the republic as we knew it.

Postscript:  I’m advised that Lisa Page did finally testify in closed session while I was out of the country last week. However, it took an extraordinarily long time for her to comply with the request, as detailed in this Tweet from Rep. Mark Meadows.

Post-postscript: Cable TV turned into a madhouse Monday night with CNN’s Erin Burnett and MSNBC’s Chris Mathews beating the war drums like Comanches waiting on a wagon train. Putin, they screamed, is the criminal head of a hostile foreign power. If they say so, it must be true. John Brennan, ex-CIA chief, calls Mr. Trump’s behavior  “treasonous” for doubting the veracity of seventeen intelligence agencies. To me, that suggests that the US has got too many intelligence agencies and that they may be a bigger threat to liberty in America than anything that Russia has done or is doing to us.

Kunstler



197 Comments on "Kunstler: Twelve Ham Sandwiches with Russian Dressing"

  1. Theedrich on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 4:38 am 

    The U.S. is a massive criminal organization.   Everything it does is covered up with hypocrisy and lies to dupe the masses.  It murders en masse with impunity, then claims that it was all done to save the world.

    Take even just “small” and retaliatory matters like the May 2, 2011 murder of Osama bin Laden.   As usual, the truth came out only years later in the 21 May 2015 report by Seymour Hersh, “The Killing of Osama bin Laden” at https://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/ seymour-m-hersh/the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden :

    ‘Of course the guys knew the target was bin Laden and he was there under Pakistani control,’ the retired official said.  ‘Otherwise, they would not have done the mission without air cover.  It was clearly and absolutely a premeditated murder.’  A former Seal commander, who has led and participated in dozens of similar missions over the past decade, assured me that ‘we were not going to keep bin Laden alive — to allow the terrorist to live.  By law, we know what we’re doing inside Pakistan is a homicide.  We’ve come to grips with that.  Each one of us, when we do these missions, [we] say to ourselves, “Let’s face it.  We’re going to commit a murder.”’  The White House’s initial account claimed that bin Laden had been brandishing a weapon;  the story was aimed at deflecting those who questioned the legality of the US administration’s targeted assassination programme.  The US has consistently maintained, despite widely reported remarks by people involved with the mission, that bin Laden would have been taken alive if he had immediately surrendered.

    Consonant with this latter lie, the fake photo of Obama with generals and staff pretending to look anxiously at a video of the attack on bin Laden was another element added to help the Negro get re-elected.

    Today we see U.S. proxy wars going on in Syria, Yemen and all over Africa.  The same sort of truth-suppression, plausible deniability, and misinformation as that just mentioned continues to be pumped out from the DeepState and its media puppets about these bloodthirsty operations to establish a “New American Century.”  When it comes to hypocrisy, the main difference between the governments of the U.S. and Russia is that the U.S. is vastly better at covering up its crimes, which are cosmic (extinguishing the White race), as opposed to those of Russia, which are mainly human (murders, thievery, jockeying for power, etc.).

    “Targeted assassination programmes” and covert proxy wars to elect and re-elect politicians are just standard operating procedure for Yankeedom.   Since the beginning of the country, the nation has wrapped its mass murders in lies and religious babble.  Other countries like Russian and China know this.  That is why they have no intention of negotiating from any position but that of raw military strength.  And it is also why, if push comes to shove, the Manifest-Destiny dogma of the “indispensable nation” will be described as a major factor in the obliteration of another defunct criminal empire.

  2. Makati1 on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 6:06 am 

    ” Mr. Mueller must know he will never get twelve Russian intel agents into a US courtroom, so the entire exercise is a joke and a fraud. In effect, he’s indicted twelve ham sandwiches with Russian dressing.”

    That comment made me laugh, but it is only another sign of the Us’ insanity and collapse.

  3. deadly on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 6:21 am 

    Trump can do and say anything he wants, he is a loose cannon.

    Kunstler chose the wrong meat. It should have been a pastrami sandwich, not an unclean meat such as ham. You can’t put ham on pumpernickel bread.

    It has to be as kosher as it can get with a kosher pickle to boot.

    Besides, all politicians do is talk and really never do anything else. They’re harmless until they start talking, then they’re dangerous and must be avoided at all costs.

    And who in the hell cares if the Russians meddled in the campaign to reject Hillary?

    Only the politicians who point with pride and view with alarm and they don’t count anymore.

    They are all going to burn in hell, so there is some consolation there.

    Their stupidity will get them all there, it is a win win for humanity.

  4. pointer on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 6:28 am 

    Hey, Kuntler, are you privy to the actual evidence in the hands of the Mueller, FBI and the many other US intelligence agencies? No? Then shut up.

  5. pointer on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 6:33 am 

    Isn’t it nice to see Kuntler cheerleading for America’s very own Mussolini? All that remains is for the Republicans to hand Trump all the rest of the keys to power.

  6. Davy on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 6:42 am 

    Come on pointer, you are cheerleading a corrupt liberal left that is in bed with big corporations, MSM, and deep state. Sounds more fascist to me than Trump. There would never have been a Trump except for the failures of the left and liberalism pushed by the corrupt Klintons and Obumas. What we are seeing now is the biggest criminal malfeasance in US history and it is your side pointer. This in no way condones Trump and his movement it just shows this results when you have such bad behavior. The ship is sinking but look no further than your side pointer.

  7. MASTERMIND on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 7:36 am 

    Davy

    Trump gave a huge tax break to all corporations and the wealthy..But the left is in bed with them? You just make up lies about the left..And whenever I challenge it you go silent..And who is this deep state? You have turned into a tin foil hat nutjob.

    You are a just an alt right neckbeard and proud!

  8. TheNationalist on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 7:43 am 

    John McCain goes into full meltdown again. He just never got over being probed by a Russian in the Hanoi Hilton.
    And he squeeled like a pig and told them everything they wanted.
    The 17 ‘Intelligence’ groups in the U.S. must contain some of the biggest scum bags on Earth.
    CIA anyone?
    Weapons of mass destruction anyone?
    Please give me a break, I should but Trump a fucking beer!

  9. TheNationalist on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 7:45 am 

    **Buy Trump a fucking beer or three!
    Hey mastermind what is a neckbeard anyway?, us aussies don’t understand your strange lefty american language!

  10. MASTERMIND on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 7:46 am 

    Davy

    I guess I would blame the left when the right has done this to their states..

    See household income and average credit scores..

    https://imgur.com/a/WgG4tv5

    Ouch..the south and midwest are basically a third world country..

    This is why the right has to use guns, abortion, racism, religion to win elections..there economies are failures..

  11. TheNationalist on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 7:50 am 

    Hey Mastermind, I apologise for taking the piss. I do value your opinion even if I don’t agree with you! I enjoy reading your conflicting views with Davy and the other characters on here.
    cheers
    p.s. do you think there is any common ground or do you think we are destined to trade insults forever? like the KGB and John McCain perhaps?

  12. Thenationalist on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 7:59 am 

    Hey Thedrich, sadly I must agree with everything you typed.
    This gives me no pleasure but a grim feeling that I wish more people would realise this both inside and outside of the United States before their military ‘Ïntelligence’ agencies lobby for even more power and money.
    I don’t think it is even helping the people of the United States anymore.

  13. Davy on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 8:07 am 

    Mm, your corrupt blind lying liberal left is the rich of the country for the most part. There are rich conservative too but they don’t outnumber the lefties. This is why you are such a dumb hilarious kid when you point fingers at the rich. You represent them, enable them, and fight for them. What a naive numbnut. The blue islands of lefty strength are the rich coastal areas where power and privileges have coalesced into this corruption. The interior fly over has lots of 3rd world. I live with it. It is up in your Michigan too you phony PHD.

  14. pointer on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 8:11 am 

    Davy, turn off the ceaselessly running loop in your head that makes you see all sorts of things that are not there. Where precisely in what I wrote did I “cheerlead for the left”? Just because I assert that Mueller, et.al., have concrete evidence (perhaps provided by the various parties in custody who have agreed to provide information in exchange for leniency), and that the Republicans could crown the dotard as king if they chose, does that mean I’m a corporate Democrat?

    If you do turn off that loop, you might find that others who post here might find you a bit more tolerable. And you might see that the “left” which appear as such villans is a spectrum, not rank and file party members.

  15. Davy on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 8:50 am 

    Pointer, you lefties are so obvious that there is no need to do much at all. You guys expose yourselves every comment what the liberal left has become. Until you guys take a step back and get out of your emotions you are a dead movement making noise. One needs only to see the handful of liberals here who engage in the blame and complain game then act squeaky clean to see failure. The dirt is surfacing how horrible your side has become. Until the liberal base atones for its failures you will continue to be failures. Human nature says as much. Problems must be confronted to be fixed. You may win future elections but you will destroy this country in the process. This type of corruption spells the end of the US eventually.

  16. GregT on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 8:59 am 

    “If you do turn off that loop, you might find that others who post here might find you a bit more tolerable.”

    Davy is delusional pointer, and suffers from some rather severe emotional and psychological issues. The guy needs professional help, and continues to become more unhinged by the day.

    Do your best to ignore him, or take his little outbursts with a grain of salt. Everybody else does.

  17. Davy on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 9:13 am 

    Like I said when grehggie has had a good bitch slapping he talks like a mental health professional as his defense mechanism. It happens like clock work and shows just how shallow the guy is. The truth is he has some of the worst personality issues on this board. He also has admitted to seeing a therapist.

  18. GregT on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 9:17 am 

    You haven’t neutered anybody Davy, you haven’t moderated anybody, you haven’t bitch slapped anybody, and you haven’t kicked anybody’s asses.

    Purely delusional on your part, a clear sign that you have both severe emotional and psychological issues.

  19. Davy on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 9:21 am 

    Translation: more of the comment loop the grehgger is now known for. Redundancy, shallowness, and pettiness that’s our grehgger.

  20. Davy on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 9:23 am 

    Where is your boney Juan buddy grehggie? You need gang support.

  21. pointer on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 9:29 am 

    Sounds good, Greg. Let’s make it a policy to not to respond to Davy, no matter what he posts, whether it is just random babbling, or some sort of directed attack. It is unfortunate that he indulges his delusions.

  22. GregT on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 9:33 am 

    “Where is your boney Juan buddy grehggie? You need gang support.”

    There is no gang Davy, I have never met Juan P, and I don’t need any support. Those would simply be more of your usual paranoid delusions.

    Please go and speak with a mental healthcare professional.

  23. GregT on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 9:37 am 

    “Sounds good, Greg. Let’s make it a policy to not to respond to Davy, no matter what he posts, whether it is just random babbling, or some sort of directed attack. It is unfortunate that he indulges his delusions.”

    I passed that point about four years ago pointer. I’ve had enough of this jerkoff, and I’m not going to let up until he stops fucking with everyone. Sorry.

  24. MASTERMIND on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 9:39 am 

    America may not have the tools to counter the next financial crisis, warn Bernanke, Geithner and Paulson

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/18/america-may-not-have-the-tools-to-counter-the-next-financial-crisis.html

  25. MASTERMIND on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 9:42 am 

    Davy

    Who is the party that just passed a 75% tax cut to the upper five percent? Who is the party that raised taxes on the rich to give healthcare to the poor? You dumb fuck..

  26. MASTERMIND on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 9:46 am 

    Pointer

    Davy is a Putin bootlicker..unfortunately this site is infested with alt right neckbeards..And you can’t reason with white trash like Davy..He is dumber than yeast..

    Don’t worry when the oil starts to run out here in a few years..Society will collapse and he will be beaten bloody with a brick..

  27. Davy on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 9:47 am 

    Lmfao at the pointer who can’t take his medicine. Good luck with that dumbass. I tried a different approach 2 weeks ago and yours truely gregster made it a point to attack almost every comment I made. They want to own this board. They want to whine about attacks as they attack. You want to be a part of that insanity? You just lost my respect pointer.

  28. Davy on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 9:49 am 

    Wow, grehgiee is pissed. Now it is jerkoff and the fucks are flying. I smell victory.

  29. joe on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 10:01 am 

    When did America lose its liberty? Was it when upon freeing itself from Britian it kept the institution of slavery? Was it when it stole the lands of the Philippines from from Spain, then Mexico and Cuba? Was it when it wiped out the redman? Was it during Jim crow or Vietnam or any of the other crazy things that only seem to happen in the US?
    Of course not. Americans are free. Thats why they need such a massive msm that lies to them. If they told the truth then democracy would prevent the election of warmongers. Trump is not a warmonger. He has tried very hard to speak with Americas enemies, he has kept close to Americas promise to fight the enemies of its allies. If the msm and liberals are mad at Trump, he must be doing somthing right. I just wish all the p*ssies surrounding him who claim to support him would grow a set of man – balls and fight back.

  30. GregT on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 10:04 am 

    “Wow, grehgiee is pissed. Now it is jerkoff and the fucks are flying. I smell victory.”

    As long as you choose to keep attacking others here Davy, myself included, this does not stop. Ever.

    Your choice.

  31. Davy on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 10:14 am 

    Dumbass sounds like the other stalking and pricking hypocrite and his buddy in crime, Boney juan. Both of these individuals are disgusting hypocrite.

  32. joe on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 10:24 am 

    NOPEC Bill to bust oil world open. Who needs Saudi when you’ve got the Baker?

    “House of Representatives introduced a version of the bill in May. The Senate earlier this week also brought up a draft of the legislation, which would amend the Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890. That’s the law used more than a century ago to break up the oil empire of John Rockefeller.”
    “http://www.worldoil.com/news/2018/7/18/opec-said-to-seek-legal-strategy-as-us-pushes-nopec-bill”

  33. GregT on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 10:28 am 

    “Dumbass sounds like the other stalking and pricking hypocrite and his buddy in crime, Boney juan. Both of these individuals are disgusting hypocrites.”

    JuanP also warned you Davy, that if you didn’t stop attacking him, he would retaliate. You’re obviously a very slow learner buddy.

  34. MASTERMIND on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 10:29 am 

    Christianity, along with all other theistic belief systems, is the fraud of the age. It serves to detach the species from the natural world and likewise, from each other. It supports blind submission to authority. It reduces human responsibility to the effect that God controls everything..

  35. pointer on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 10:40 am 

    Joe, Americans are not free. They are like cattle, fenced in by the militarized police and corporations beating them over the head with advertising. As long as Americans behave, and as long as they are white and conforming, they are reasonably safe. When did they lose their liberty? Well, many Americans never had any degree of liberty to speak of, and never will. A big turning point, however, was in the middle of the 20th century, when white and conforming Americans were lured out to the suburbs, became addicted to petroleum, and became stupid.

    Crazy things seem to happen only in the US? I beg to differ. The US has plenty of crazy, but where in the world has a country had regular folk gas women and children as their day job? And that is just one example of many crazy things that have happened outside of the US.

    Lastly, Joe, do not Trump’s endless lies not bother you even one bit? Is it OK with you that the so-called leader of the US makes things up and expects you to believe them? Is it that you enjoy being gas-lighted?

  36. Davy on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 10:40 am 

    Greggie Juan. I made an effort to change you doubled down on bad behavior. This is now your future. Fucks and jerk offs from being pissed off from being exposed for the fraud you are. Where is your stupid playboy buddy Boney juan now when you need him? You stupid low life’s have to attack in packs because you have weak characters.

  37. GregT on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 10:49 am 

    There is nobody on this forum with the username Greggie Juan, Davy, and you stopped attacking others here for three days. As long as you choose to continue, this does not stop. Ever.

    Your choice.

  38. pointer on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 10:51 am 

    MM said: “Christianity, along with all other theistic belief systems, is the fraud of the age.”

    Agreed. The problem is that made-up stuff is a lot easier for most people to handle. That’s why Netflix binging is a thing, and discussions about a soft-landing from the petroleum age are not.

  39. MASTERMIND on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 11:11 am 

    Pointer

    I agree..And nice to meet you by the way..Its nice to know there are still intelligent independent thinkers out there..Since around 99 percent of the population is brainwashed..

  40. GregT on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 11:18 am 

    “Christianity, along with all other theistic belief systems, is the fraud of the age.”

    The biggest other ones being the beliefs in industrialism, consumerism, and technology. None of which will save humanity from the consequences of industrialism, consumerism, and technology.

  41. Davy on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 11:34 am 

    ‘Davy, and you stopped attacking others here for three days. As long as you choose to continue, this does not stop.’

    good grehgie juan, you admit to your bad behavior. I stopped for a week grehgie.
    Do you remember when you hijacked my handle? There is no reason to stop attacking the attacks. Your gang enjoys attacks. You enjoy the whining about being attacked. You guys are sick.

  42. MASTERMIND on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 11:44 am 

    Back around the turn of the century it was conservatives companies who ruled the US economy..GE, Ford, GM, Exxon, etc..

    Now its liberal companies that rule..Amazon, Facebook, Apple, Google, Microsoft etc..

  43. Davy on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 11:45 am 

    “The biggest other ones being the beliefs in industrialism, consumerism, and technology.”
    Nothing wrong with these things grehggie it is the human misuse of them.

    “None of which will save humanity from the consequences of industrialism, consumerism, and technology.”
    Grehggie, we can’t live without them now unless many people are left to die. You could give a shit because you feel you are safe up in Salmon run.

  44. MASTERMIND on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 11:54 am 

    Top Voting Machine Vendor Admits It Installed Remote-Access Software on Systems Sold to States

    Remote-access software and modems on election equipment ‘is the worst decision for security short of leaving ballot boxes on a Moscow street corner.’

    https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mb4ezy/top-voting-machine-vendor-admits-it-installed-remote-access-software-on-systems-sold-to-states

    Fake election rigged by the elites to get their tax cuts and more money for war..Fake president

  45. asg70 on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 11:55 am 

    I see Kunstler has abandoned peak-oil and turned into an alt-right blogger. What purpose does copy-pasting his garbage serve here?

  46. Davy on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 11:59 am 

    I see Kunstler has abandoned peak-oil and turned into an alt-right blogger. What purpose does copy-pasting his garbage serve here?

    Kunstler is exposing the blind lying liberal corruption and doing a great job. We know that because of the howl coming out of the extremist liberal fringe here on this board.

  47. JuanP on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 12:31 pm 

    Delusional Davy “You guys are sick.”

    Projecting again, Davy? LOL!

  48. MASTERMIND on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 12:40 pm 

    Davy

    Exposing the blind lying liberals..

    Put a sock in it grandpa..

    You are a deplorable

  49. JuanP on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 12:43 pm 

    Delusional Davy “Where is your boney Juan buddy grehggie?”

    I am here, Davy, chill out. I am not here 24/7 like you because I have a life outside of PO unlike you. I was tarping some fields and cover cropping others. It is brutal work in this heat. But don’t worry about me because I will always come back to “neuter you and bring balance to the board”. Besides, you have been spewing the same nonsense here for over five years so it’s not like I’m missing anything if I leave for a few hours. It warms my heart that you missed me; you are such a glutton for punishment. Get ready for a good “bitch slapping” in the coming hours. LOL!

  50. MASTERMIND on Wed, 18th Jul 2018 12:50 pm 

    Davy

    Only one who is blind is you who call science studies “empty links”..

    You are a moron..you are no different than clog..You fake news sharing zerohedge lunatic fringe extremist

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