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Kunstler: The Duration of What?
From The New York Times, Thursday, August 27, 2020
It’s nice to see The New York Times acting like a whipped dog after hounding the nation year upon year through thickets of falsehood and deceit to put over their hustle of systemic racism. “…some worry that local Democratic leaders are failing…” Really? Do you think that videos showing flash mobs of black looters rampaging through a Target Store, busting up cars on a dealer’s lot with baseball bats, and setting fire to a furniture shop might tell a different story? And that everybody still sane in this land knows that Democratic mayors and governors have been standing back, allowing it to happen?
The Democratic Party ought to worry that the voters are onto their game, because it looks like they’ve completely blown it only a week after anointing the most decrepit old pol in their donkey stable to run for president. Speaking of whom, Joe Biden finally crawled out from under a rock yesterday to issue a few timid peeps about the rioting, looting, and arson that went on in Kenosha, Wisconsin, for three nights running — and for three months in other cities around the country — during which he said nothing to halt the trashing of Kenosha’s downtown.
The different story that events themselves are telling voters is that young Americans act like savages when given the green light by politicians who refuse to enforce the laws against public violence, theft, and the destruction of property, and who justify all that with a fabricated narrative about systemic racism. Since Memorial Day, the Democratic Party has used the Black Lives Matter and Antifa orgs as shock troops in a stupid campaign aimed at abolishing the police. Well, now America can see exactly what happens when the police get functionally disabled by mayors and governors who order them to not do their primary job: maintaining basic civic order. The voters have seen it in Kenosha, Chicago, New York, Denver, Minneapolis, Los Angeles, Atlanta, Seattle, and Portland, Oregon.
What were the Democratic Party higher-ups thinking as all this rolled out? That they could keep posing people of color as victims while they ran amok, beat people up, robbed stores, jacked cars, and set buildings on fire? That the mayhem would continue until the nation’s morale improved? If that was actually their campaign strategy, then they’ve successfully burned down their national campaign before it even got underway. Having allowed all this havoc to be set in motion, can they stop it now? I guess we’ll see. Thursday was the first night that rioters failed to turn out in Portland after their epic 93-night siege of public buildings and once-quiet neighborhoods there. Perhaps someone told them they better knock it off in case voters connected the dots between these orchestrated antics and something Mr. Trump might point out in his nationally broadcast acceptance speech.
Street operations continued, however, in Washington DC while Mr. Trump delivered his remarks at the White House. In it, his speechwriters averred pretty crisply to those forces driving to “punish” the “wicked nation” for its sins. Meanwhile, Democratic Party water-carrier Jake Tapper over at CNN howled about the president violating the Hatch Act by using government property (the White House, where he lives) to stage a campaign event — making the CNN talking heads look ridiculous in the process. When that act ran out of steam, the panel carried on about the assembled audience on the White House lawn not wearing masks as proof of the manifest evil in the GOP ranks. (Then, a BLM mob beset Senator Rand Paul attempting to walk back to his hotel after the speech. DC police had to step in and escort him to safety.)
Earlier on Thursday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi decreed that there should be no candidates’ debates between Joe Biden and Mr. Trump — though Mr. Biden previously had agreed to it. It looked like Mommy ran out of the basement to save his skin. That can only confirm how desperate the Party is now, having set their own campaign tent on fire. Expect them to jam Joe Biden back under a rock for the duration. The question is: the duration of what? Of the interval between now and the dreadful moment in early September when they realize they must replace him at the head of the ticket, or else witness the suicide of party?
96 Comments on "Kunstler: The Duration of What?"
Outcast_Searcher on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 11:00 am
“hounding the nation year upon year through thickets of falsehood and deceit to put over their hustle of”. Gee. What does this remind me of?
Oh yes, DECADES of Kunstler hounding readers with endless falsehood and deceit over his hustle of fast crash DOOM of all types. LOL
Whether it’s selling useless information or “Y2K buckets”, he’s been VERY good at that over the years.
But let’s ignore that and pay him lots of money / support him in his uselessness, because there are political agendas to fulfill.
And yeah, the NYT is a liberal paper, and I get sick of the endless whining in the editorial pages. OTOH, the WSJ leans very conservative, and I got so tired of it claiming that climate change was a hoax, that I quit subscribing to it maybe 5 years ago now, as a matter of principle.
So maybe both sides have political agendas, and both sides wildly exaggerate over time, as they endlessly flog their respective agendas.
And yeah, I’m a moderate with little use for the endless, often thoughtless adherence to the dogma of both sides, especially the extremes.
bochen777 on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 11:16 am
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Duncan Idaho on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 11:20 am
Relative deprivation
Relative deprivation refers to the experience of being deprived of something to which one believes they are entitled. It is the discontent felt when one compares their position in life to others who they feel are equal or inferior but have unfairly had more success than them.
A wingnut problem—
Davy on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 12:53 pm
Kunstler is a hero for any sane liberal especially the old fashion kind back when you could be proud to be called a liberal. The modern woke liberal is unhinged and delusional in almost every respect. Too much inbreeding and affluence has made them hypocritical and egotistical liars.
Davy on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 1:00 pm
Let a woke liberal run a city and this what you get:
“She Hasn’t Done Her Job”: Looting, Riots, & Mayoral Ineptitude Prompt Mass Exodus Of Chicago Residents
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/she-hasnt-done-her-job-looting-riots-mayoral-ineptitude-prompt-mass-exodus-chicago
“While mayor Lori Lightfoot continues to try and assure the public that she has everything under control, the exodus from Chicago as a result of the looting and riots is continuing. Citizens of Chicago are literally starting to pour out of the city, citing safety and the Mayor’s ineptitude as their key reasons for leaving. Hilariously, in liberal politicians’ attempt to show the world they don’t need Federal assistance and that they don’t need to rely on President Trump’s help, they are inadvertently likely creating more Trump voters, as residents who seek law and order may find no other choice than to vote Republican come November. And even though residents understand the looting and riots in some cases, they are not waiting around for it to get better on its own, nor are they waiting around for it to make its way to their house, their families or their neighborhoods…Residents of the Near North Side told a Tribune columnist that they would be moving “as soon as we can get out” and others “expressed fear” of returning downtown. The Near North Side is 70% white and 80% of residents have a college degree. The median household income is $99,732, which is about twice the city’s average.”
Abraham van Helsing on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 3:46 pm
Both Kunstler and Maher suggesting that Trump’s cards are actually rather good. Perhaps even better than in 2016. A clear Trump victory probably mean four more years… USA.
Theedrich on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 4:47 pm
So we have more fun, now from Kenosha, Wisconsin.
A reportorial site named Heavy.com has published the police and court reports on Kyle Rittenhouse, the 17-year-old shooter involved in the deaths of two people in Kenosha, Wisconsin, on Tuesday, 2020 August 25. The reports are found at https://heavy.com/news/2020/08/kyle-rittenhouse/. Firstly, the Illinois arrest report:
And secondly, as regards the charges at the Wisconsin Circuit Court:
The cellphone photos and videos of the chaotic fracas show mass confusion in which several fanatic Antifa rioters attempt to pursue and capture Rittenhouse and his gun, resulting in a desperate fight in which ends in the boy’s lethal shooting of two people and the wounding of a third. One of the deceased (Mr. Huber) had hit Rittenhouse with a skateboard and almost overcame him before being shot. The media portrays it all as a premeditated plot to kill unarmed and utterly innocent bystanders who did nothing to provoke anything. And the woke controllers of the GoFundMe website took down a page asking for bail money for the boy only a few minutes after it had been posted. Those same controllers had allowed a similar page asking for bail for arrested 𝕮𝖔𝖔𝖓 𝕷𝖎𝖛𝖊𝖘 𝕸𝖆𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗 rioters and pillagers to garner $1.3 million without ever taking their page down.
The Heavy.com site also mentions that Rittenhouse’s mother, with whom he lived, had a different surname and was Wendy Lewis, a “single mom” and health care worker. No mention is made of his father.
So we now know that this singularly unlucky 17-year-old kid and high school dropout, charged (of course) as an adult, will be convicted of first-degree murder and spend long years in prison, because the “progressive” Yid-run media want it.
Sort of brings to mind another case of a judicial conviction some while ago resulting from other highly placed Yids inciting the masses under them to condemn their scapegoat to death, and drowning out the Roman prefect with cries of “crucifige!”
Abraham van Helsing on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 5:24 pm
Kyle killed a Joseph Rosenbaum, a convicted pedophile, who happens to be Jewish. I find that impressive. Is he of German descent?
makati1 on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 5:30 pm
“Kunstler is a hero for any sane liberal…”
Gawd, Davy! I’m going to look outside and see if it is snowing! We actually agree on something! ^_^
JuanP on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 5:41 pm
“Gawd, Davy! I’m going to look outside and see if it is snowing! We actually agree on something! ^_^”
Mak, you are either with Davy or me, make up your mind!
makati1 on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 6:01 pm
JuanP, I’m with reality, no matter who sees it. I am not on a “side”.
makati1 on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 6:05 pm
“The Emergence of the Technetronic Society of Humankind”
https://journal-neo.org/2020/08/28/the-emergence-of-the-technetronic-society-of-humankind/
“The world community is being transformed. The current pandemic is only another phase of a metamorphosis set in motion decades ago. The intersection of our physical and digital lives is the battleground, where the last hopes of freedom are being bludgeoned to death. Few can see this because most people are already casualties the old world order sacrificed before the altar of liberty.”
WARNING! The facts in this article are hazardous to your delusions.
Duncan Idaho on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 6:32 pm
“anarchists, agitators, rioters, looters, and flag-burners.”
Except for looters, I accept that description.
Duncan Idaho on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 6:36 pm
The Fat Boys response?
https://i0.wp.com/media.beam.usnews.com/62/1a/347b4dd84fbfbb9e5cda51149091/151216-trumpface-4-editorial.jpg?ssl=1
JuanP on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 6:39 pm
“JuanP, I’m with reality, no matter who sees it. I am not on a “side”.”
Lighten up Mak, I was being fun. I feel so liberated these days. I am in such a good mood since my new meds kicked in.
JuanP on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 6:41 pm
journal-neo.org is a Russian government supported site Mak. While I agree with most things the Russians say and do it is still a propaganda site.
makati1 on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 6:55 pm
And ALL Amerikan supported sites are not 100% propaganda, including ALL the MSM bullshit?
I’ll take Russia(and China) any day over terrorist police state Amerika! Amerika is history. Over. Finished.
If you don’t look at ALL sides of an event, you don’t really see the big picture. Denial does not change reality.
JuanP on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 7:00 pm
Calm down Mak, I hate the US just like you, just sayin!
bochen777 on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 7:18 pm
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bochen777 on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 7:53 pm
China will take over the world. I can’t wait until they make slaves of white people.
makati1 on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 10:11 pm
B, did you ever notice that Chinese are white? lol
makati1 on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 10:11 pm
B, did you ever notice that Chinese are white, not yellow? lol
Davy on Sat, 29th Aug 2020 11:49 pm
LOFDAO at the wak.
JuanP is us
stupid
dear supertard duncan hallelujiah was said to troll SNL on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 12:57 am
please stop buying all the lib urns
Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 5:07 am
Low grade “armed conflict” in Portland where a Trump-car-caravan confronts (mostly white) BLM-rabble:
https://www.rt.com/usa/499443-portland-trump-caravan-clashes/
Trump-cars are shot at with paint-balls.
The large numbers of Trump supporters in libtard enclave Portland are (pleasantly) surprising. I still guess that Trump will win 60-40.
Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 5:44 am
BoJo has lost his Brexit momentum. Remain camp in the UK now leads 54%-40%:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8677977/Conservatives-Labour-LEVEL-new-opinion-poll.html
The EU will take notice, steer towards a (preliminary) no-deal Brexit, in anticipation of Scottish independence, a major UK recession and a Labour take-over and a government that will park the UK at least in the economic orbit of the EU. That would be the best for all.
Davy on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 6:12 am
“Australia Looks To Take The Lead In The Hydrogen Boom”
https://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Renewable-Energy/Australia-Looks-To-Take-The-Lead-In-The-Hydrogen-Boom.html
“Dubbed the Asian Renewable Energy Hub, the $20B project is set to become the world’s largest wind-solar hybrid with the vast amounts of renewable energy generated used to produce hydrogen for export. It is a classic example of the hydrogen economy finally taking off, with some experts predicting that hydrogen could soon become a globally traded energy source, just like oil and gas… However, given the challenges of transporting hydrogen, the first phase of the Kalbarri project at first aims to blend the hydrogen directly with natural gas in order to lower its carbon footprint… Phase one of the project could be complete in just two years. The second phase of the Kalbarri project will see the gas compressed and supercooled, just like LNG, and then exported to Asian nations like Korea, Japan, and Singapore. The hydrogen exports could kick off in four years and take another three years to scale. The third phase of the project actually has the local residents most excited: Using the hydrogen to manufacture green steel for export. Given that steel production accounts for ~7% of global carbon emissions, steel made from renewable energy is expected to become a multi-billion industry as countries move to decarbonize. Kalbarri could be exporting green steel in a decade or less.”
Davy on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 6:44 am
“China’s ‘Debt-Trap’ Diplomacy With Third-World Nations”
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16396/china-debt-trap-diplomacy
“The economic benefits, however, of some of these deals between China and poor “Third World” countries in Africa and Latin America are questionable. A few of these bilateral packages appear contrived to imprison already impoverished states into realms of permanent economic vassalage to China…The BRI networks clearly intend to benefit China, either by stimulating an enormous increase in commerce, or, when debts cannot be repaid, by appropriating whatever assets China selects. China, as the world’s largest importer of oil, will be able to diversify its sources of petroleum as a consequence of several bilateral BRI deals. China most likely also hopes to secure political benefits through BRI arrangements…Critics of China’s BRI program point out that Chinese loan agreements lack transparency and that contracts sometimes serve China’s interests in a racketeering way, oblivious to local concerns. Sri Lanka, for instance, after having failed to meet its debt obligations to China, ceded the port of Hambantota to Beijing. Venezuela delivers oil to China instead of its worthless currency. Ecuador, in the first full year of Xi’s presidency, already was exporting 90% of its oil to China, perhaps even below the world market price. In addition, Ecuador cannot seem to prevent the rape of its marine life just on the edge of its sovereign maritime economic zone by hundreds of Chinese fishing boats near the Galapagos Islands. “They just pull up everything!” said a sea captain who asked not to be named…An additional shortcoming of the massive outlay of Chinese loans that finance infrastructure projects are that host nations are forced to put up with what CCP Chairman Xi calls “Chinese characteristics.” When Beijing settles on an infrastructure project, large numbers of Chinese workers arrive in the host country, establish their own living area, complete the project and then leave. There is little or no hiring of local workers or training of locals in skills that could exact a benefit from the extended presence of China’s skilled professionals. Some Chinese teams even bring their own chefs and rarely engage in social activities with the citizens of the host nation…The ultimate objective of the global dimension of China’s BRI enterprise appears to be geared toward replacing the existing political, military and economic dimension of the West’s liberal democratic order — again not surprisingly — with one dominated solely by the Communist Party of China.”
Cloggie on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 7:21 am
Thanks Davy for the hydrogen link. I thought renewables were a niche? Forget it, rhetorical.
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2020/08/30/australia-on-course-to-become-1-green-steel-producer/
“Australia on Course to Become #1 Green Steel Producer”
Davy on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 7:32 am
Fooled you again wak. ROFLMAIO
All of ‘Juan’s post in this thread were made by me. Not one of the comments under his name was the real thing. You are so easy to fool old man. You want to know what that is?
Because you are old and dumb and going to die any hour now. Unlike myself, who is really intelligent and edukated.
So easy to fool with my JuanPPeee posts. I do them to prove how dumb you are, and it works every time.
Victory!!!
Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 8:04 am
Portland could become to the US what Sloviansk was to Ukraine or Vukovar to Yugoslavia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfxM6A762Gg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5zymYLGHEw
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8678107/Trumps-Portland-caravan-drives-city-thousands-attend-rallies-supporting-president.html
“Man ‘in a Patriot Prayer hat’ is shot dead in Portland during violent clashes between Trump supporters and BLM: Chaos on the 95th night of unrest after caravan of 600 cars waving MAGA flags drove into the city and confronted protesters”
Davy on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 8:32 am
“Thanks Davy for the hydrogen link. I thought renewables were a niche? Forget it, rhetorical.”
What makes you think it isn’t? Not like the world is covered in hydrogen yet. I doubt it will ever be more than another energy vector for both storage strategies, a additive for Nat Gas, and a transport option especially for big trucks, trains, and maybe aviation.
Davy on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 8:35 am
“Portland could become to the US what Sloviansk was to Ukraine or Vukovar to Yugoslavia”
Oh dear, the cloggo is really mentally masturbating hard today. cloggo, we are talking a hundred rabble-rousers seeking a media spotlight. Not going anywhere expect it might lose the rabid left an election. Talk about some stupid fucks, the woke left is really blind and stupid.
Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 8:44 am
Exactly what Bill Maher is afraid of happened in Portland earlier today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qkAzg20O5E
Euros against the rest.
Perhaps our European-American brothers in North-America rethink their classical stance vs Europe, after all their origin:
https://radixjournal.com/2018/01/america-a-view-from-the-french-new-right/
“AMERICA—A VIEW FROM THE FRENCH NEW RIGHT”
Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 9:01 am
Priceless hilarious comment from YouTube uploader:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2eUvd9olyE
“Portland is a War Zone – ANTIFA Squares Off With MAGA Supporters”
Forum kids club on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 9:10 am
PPee juan, come out and play. Tell us muzzie stories, PPee. We think you are so cool.
REAL Green on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 11:47 am
PPee juan doesn’t feel like playing with us Davy.
Duncan Idaho on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 12:23 pm
The problem with liberal hysteria about Trump is that it isn’t rooted in class analysis.
Duncan Idaho on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 12:24 pm
“People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage.”
– John Kenneth Galbraith
JuanP on moderated side on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 12:31 pm
Re: What the Huawei, WeChat and TikTok bans all have in comm
Unread postby REAL Green » Sun 30 Aug 2020, 13:29:54
bochen777 wrote:
Real Green, he can’t hear you, you are also named on his ignore list …..
REAL Green wrote:
JuanP, you are the wussy who puts people on the ignore list. What a joke. A real man will stand up and debate instead of cowering in fear. I am not on any other ignore list I know of.
the board on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 12:32 pm
JuanP on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 11:47 am
“PPee juan doesn’t feel like playing with us Davy.”
Why would I want to play with a lunatic? Instead I am going to insult you and take you down. Welcome to hell, juanPee.
Davy on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 12:33 pm
“The problem with liberal hysteria about Trump is that it isn’t rooted in class analysis.”
Dumbcan, at least you realize you are hysterical.
Davy on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 12:35 pm
Hey, Dumbcan, your boys out in Portland are murdering people. I bet you are proud.
JuanP on the moderated side on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 12:44 pm
Re: What the Huawei, WeChat and TikTok bans all have in comm
Unread postby REAL Green » Sun 30 Aug 2020, 13:43:12
bochen777 wrote:
I’m not JuanP
REAL Green wrote:
LIAR
JuanP on the moderated side on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 12:57 pm
Re: What the Huawei, WeChat and TikTok bans all have in comm
Postby REAL Green » Sun 30 Aug 2020, 12:56:11
bochen777 wrote:
Shorty == Real Green Stop using dup accounts
REAL Green:
JuanP, you have been outted on the unmoderated side and still you choose to bring your insanity over here! It is not hard to figure out your trolling activity of ID theft and sock spam.
Fat Mexican bastard on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 1:16 pm
I would like to lodge a complaint please. There is much nasty language used by posters here.
Why is everyone so unfriendly and rude?
Such a bunch of fuckin’ cunts
makati1 on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 1:18 pm
Stop with your whining fag boy!
bochen777 on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 1:26 pm
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China
zero juan on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 2:04 pm
Fuck face luantic
bochen777 said df41.ch China
makati1 said Stop with your whining fag boy!
Fat Mexican bastard said I would like to lodge a complaint please. There i…
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REAL Green on Sun, 30th Aug 2020 2:50 pm
Dumbcan can’t see are comments Davy. Dumbcan has us on ignore.