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Kunstler: #Take the Knee

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There’s a lot to complain about in this deranged republic — if it even still is one — but the burdens of being a multimillionaire football player would not be at the top of my list. Personally, I find it a little peculiar that we have to play the national anthem before any sporting event. All it really shows is how insecure we are as a nation that we have to display our love of country in this obsessive manner. Same with congressmen and their stupid flag lapel pins, or the flag in front of Denny’s chain restaurants. Are eaters of the “lumberjack slam” so disoriented when they leave the place that they need to be reminded what country they’re in? “Oh, look hon, were in the USA after all….”

What burns my ass is seeing baseball players in camo uniforms, as if they were an extension of the US military. What’s up with that? Is San Diego suddenly a theater of war? And why do US soldiers need to wear camo uniforms when shopping for eyeglasses? There used to be a distinction between battle dress and what you wore the rest of the time, even during a world war. And why on earth is it necessary to fly Air Force fighter jets over the stadium before the Super Bowl? Who authorizes the spend for that? Who are we trying to scare?

Of course, this new gale of ill-feeling stirred up by our intemperate president, the Golden Golem of Greatness, is driven by the oceanic currents of racial animus that are drowning the country more ruinously than the recent spate of hurricanes. The #Take the Knee campaign was already there, and getting hotter, even before Mr. Trump chimed in. At least he didn’t issue the usual sort of vapid nostrum about “diversity” and all of us getting along. In his blunt, blundering way, he may force the nation to clarify exactly what the beef is.

Surely it’s not about the woes of professional athletes. They are representing the grievances of a different realm in black America, perhaps the places they came from, the city ghettos or the rural backwaters of Dixieland, or maybe even boring black suburbs like Prince George County, Maryland. And the lingering question, to be equally blunt, is: how much is non-black America keeping black America down?

I say non-black because there are plenty of other ethnic groups in the mix besides the dwindling majority of “white folks.” I daresay there is as much, perhaps more real animus between Asian-Americans and black Americans than between white and black. But Asian-Americans did not enslave black Africans, so they’re off-the-hook for that original sin.

Mostly what Asian newcomers do is demonstrate that it’s possible to succeed economically and educationally in this country even if you start out with a culture and language completely alien to American ways. This is especially noticeable in places of exacting achievement like Silicon Valley. If anything, Asians complain that they do so well in school that the universities have to tamp down their admission numbers to give other ethnic groups a chance.

There seems to be so much psychological displacement in the feelings between black and white America that it is next to impossible to sort out what to do next. White Dem-Progs (formerly “liberals”) appear to be so consumed with anxious consternation over the outcome of the long civil rights struggle that they are ready to commit a sort of hara-kiri to atone for their unforgivable cis-whiteness. To some extent, they have attempted to compensate by campaigning for an ever-growing list of other “marginalized” groups in the hopes of showing some positive results for social change — it’s just easier to get significant numbers of homosexuals into the corporate executive suites than to get blacks in there — but the Dem-Progs are still left with the grinding reality of a large, dysfunctional black underclass. They certainly can’t admit that their own contrived “remedies,” such as subsidizing out-of-wedlock births, has anything to do with it, or the devastating effect of “Multiculturalism” on some sort of unifying common culture based on values that everybody can agree on.

Similarly, black America displaces their oppositionality to whatever remains of a national common culture into the memes of “systemic racism and injustice.” It has evolved insidiously in their own culture since the 1960s, probably (I believe) as a reaction to the anxiety provoked by the civil rights legislation of 1964-65. It’s really about behavior, especially in school. Are you interested in speaking English? Believe me, that would help a lot in this society. Consider this: Ella Fitzgerald was not singing black or white back in the day. She was just singing.

Kunstler



185 Comments on "Kunstler: #Take the Knee"

  1. Cloggie on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 7:55 am 

    Revised history and fantasy futures are not reality in the here and now. Get out of the easy chair and out in the world before you put your foot in your mouth. Otherwise I put my boot in your mouth digitally when you cut me down.

    Finance guys like you are easy meat. You never challenged my revisionism, because you can’t and know very well that you get your ass kicked on the very moment you try.

  2. Hello on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 8:08 am 

    >>>> You are doubting too much.

    Quite a few years as a high tech engineer let me develop a ‘feeling’ of doubt regarding tech solutions. But I admit, I’m known to have been wrong. So let’s just wait and see.

    Immigration.
    Yes, I don’t subscribe to conspiracy. So I have my own simplified theory. Following the idea of KISS.

    1. big business is king (politics makes sure big business gets what it needs to grow)
    2. whites don’t have enough children
    3. this leaves a vacuum for workers
    4. you get immigration

  3. Davy on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 8:47 am 

    No need to challenge junk extremism cloggie. You are not worth the effort. Some things you say I read but others are the same regurgitated bile just another day. You are an extremist self promoting jerk. How’s that for easy meat.

  4. Cloggie on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 8:55 am 

    No need to challenge junk extremism cloggie. You are not worth the effort. Some things you say I read but others are the same regurgitated bile just another day. You are an extremist self promoting jerk. How’s that for easy meat.

    Davy as always chickens out from real discussions, no surprises here. He would not know where to begin how to attack “junk extremism”.

    So when do you plan to flee to Italy?

  5. Cloggie on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 8:57 am 

    1. big business is king (politics makes sure big business gets what it needs to grow)
    2. whites don’t have enough children
    3. this leaves a vacuum for workers
    4. you get immigration

    All these arguments do apply to Japan as well. Only, they have zero immigration.

    Try again.

  6. Hello on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 9:58 am 

    Not, necessarily, Clog. In Japan multi kulti is much less socially accepted than in Europe. Japanese businesses are screaming for workers but politics (people) so far resisted.

    There was an initiative in Switzerland a few years back that would restrict immigration. It was called the overpopulation initiative. Every Swiss was able to directly vote if they wanted to restrict immigration. With at least 20% foreigners and an overcrowding 8 million people on a mountainus nation I thought this was a no brainer. I was wrong. The Swiss were barraged by industry screaming foul, they need access to foreign workers if they wanted to grow. That did the trick.

    No conspiracy. People voted and they made the decision. No blaming the Jews necessary.

    That’s why I’m saying Europe and the Swiss will get what they deserve for utter stupidity.

  7. Ghung on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 10:18 am 

    Japan also has the highest debt to GDP ratio of any developed nation.

  8. Cloggie on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 10:22 am 

    Not, necessarily, Clog. In Japan multi kulti is much less socially accepted than in Europe.

    Why? Because Japan is a proud nationalist nation and most important, not burdened by that filthy Christianity junk religion. And they have no Jewish talking heads on the television and in politics.

    No conspiracy. People voted and they made the decision. No blaming the Jews necessary.
    That’s why I’m saying Europe and the Swiss will get what they deserve for utter stupidity.

    They did that as a result of their Christian (secularized) religion AND membership of “The West”, where they around the clock are exposed to multicult propaganda via the media.

    It looks like you are not going to lift one finger to defend your country.

  9. GregT on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 10:50 am 

    “It looks like you are not going to lift one finger to defend your country.”

    His country belongs to legal immigrants just as much as it belongs to him. Same as in YOUR country. Which isn’t really yours BTW. Countries do not belong to people. People belong to countries. Don’t believe me? Try issuing YOUR own currency, or stop paying YOUR taxes.

  10. GregT on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 11:06 am 

    “WEsaved your ass twice and WE are still protecting you lazy Eurotards. What’s up with that? I know you don’t deserve it. WE rebuilt your cities and industry following your cultural suicide and WE are still there to prevent you from tearing yourselves apart. Now look what WE get in appreciation a Eurotard whine fest from the Dutchman.”

    We? WTF did YOU ever do? You are so deluded Davy.

  11. Cloggie on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 11:17 am 

    His country belongs to legal immigrants just as much as it belongs to him. Same as in YOUR country. Which isn’t really yours BTW. Countries do not belong to people. People belong to countries.

    Countries belong to those people who fight hardest for it. Go ask the “Indians”.

    #GreetingsFromDarwin

  12. GregT on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 11:24 am 

    Countries belong to those people who control the money. The hand that lends, is always above the hand that borrows. Indebtedness is servitude.

  13. GregT on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 11:28 am 

    “Countries belong to those people who fight hardest for it. Go ask the “Indians”.

    Countries belong to those with the deepest pockets.

    All wars are banker’s wars.

  14. Cloggie on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 11:36 am 

    Countries belong to those with the deepest pockets.
    All wars are banker’s wars.

    No.

    That applies only to the US post-1900.

    Wars are often fought between religions, like the devastating war between Protestants and Catholics in Europe between 1517 and 1648.

    Or the ISIS stunt. Nothing to do with bankers.

  15. GregT on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 11:47 am 

    Religion is dogma to control the masses.

    The Vatican is still one of the largest land owners in the world.

  16. GregT on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 11:52 am 

    “Or the ISIS stunt. Nothing to do with bankers.”

    Saddam threatened to sell Iraqi oil for gold dinars. We all know what happened to him. Ghaddafi was planning an African Union, backed with gold. The same. Libya’s central bank was taken over before Ghaddafi was even asssinated. It is always about the money, my friend.

  17. Davy on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 12:09 pm 

    Well, grehg, I shouldn’t have said we becuase you Canadians didn’t do much. You like to brag about WWII but you were insignificant in the big picture.

  18. Davy on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 12:12 pm 

    Grehg, your are right about deep pockets. You are selling your country off to the Chinese. You were part of that personally. You cared more about the money than your country. That stinks!

  19. Davy on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 12:21 pm 

    Religion is a personal thing grehg. Quit disrespecting people’s personal choice. You are a fine example of someone who needs religion. Your deagel solution is pretty horrible. The desire to see 280MIL Americans die to make room for your noble 3rd worlders is sick.

  20. Hello on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 12:58 pm 

    >>> They did that as a result of their Christian (secularized) religion

    na. Interpretation of the Bible (and of heretic texts, too) changes with social and environmental pressures.

    It’s not “let’s read the Bible to see what we should do”, but it’s more like “let’s find the scripture verse to justify what we’re doing”.

  21. Hello on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 12:59 pm 

    >>> Japan also has the highest debt to GDP ratio of any developed nation

    Japanese debt is mostly internal (with its own people). So doesn’t matter much.

  22. GregT on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 1:19 pm 

    “, your are right about deep pockets. You are selling your country off to the Chinese. You were part of that personally”.

    Canada was set up as a crown corporation Davy, and I have absolutely no say as to who buys what. I do not make the rules.

    More delusions.

  23. GregT on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 1:24 pm 

    “Religion is a personal thing grehg. Quit disrespecting people’s personal choice. You are a fine example of someone who needs religion. Your deagel solution is pretty horrible. The desire to see 280MIL Americans die to make room for your noble 3rd worlders is sick.”

    Again, you obviously don’t know the first thing about me, or about my beliefs.

    Deagle.com is supposedly run by an American oligarch Davy, a member of the Rockefeller Foundation. I have no say in what your owners think or do.

    More delusions.

  24. GregT on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 1:28 pm 

    And Davy,

    Canada is not my country, I do not own Canada. It does not belong to me.

  25. GregT on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 1:32 pm 

    ” You like to brag about WWII but you were insignificant in the big picture.”

    Neither you, nor I, had anything at all to do with WW2.
    WE were not even born yet. And Davy, bragging about mass murder isn’t exactly intelligent.

  26. fmr-paultard on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 1:43 pm 

    for the record, i’m not anti religion. i even accept BAU that ISIS is employing even though it’s not politically correct.

    There’s nothing different about the methods used by nazi tard extremist preachers or any other religion or ISIS.

    when facing tard extremist nazi preachers you better hope you have something better than ISIS and a good amount of modern weaponry, nukes, bio…hand guns

    I use HItchens here more for supporting women. Sometimes the application of religion leaves much to be desired.

    https://theageofblasphemy.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/teresa-hag.jpg

  27. GregT on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 2:01 pm 

    One more thing Davy. I did not sell my house in Vancouver to Asians. The people that bought my old house are American ex-pats from Maine.

  28. GregT on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 2:19 pm 

    Lovely older couple. We still keep in touch.

  29. Davy on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 2:43 pm 

    How sweet grehg, you are such a wonderful person. Did you tell them about how your find Deagel dot Com as a perfect solution to what you see as the American problem? Sicko.

  30. Cloggie on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 3:05 pm 

    ” You like to brag about WWII but you were insignificant in the big picture.”
    Neither you, nor I, had anything at all to do with WW2.
    WE were not even born yet. And Davy, bragging about mass murder isn’t exactly intelligent.

    The Missouri punk is confusing Greg with the TalmudTurk. Both Davy and him are constantly bragging about the rape of Davy’s mother civilization, trying to sell it as a “liberation”.

    Both Davy and the TalmudTurk are the hardcore imperialists here, even though Davy denies it because even he realizes it is not a popular position anymore, now that the entire world hates America because of its behavior, regardless of how much Davy cries “anti-americanism”. And they will both never ever engage in a real debate about WW2 because they both know they would lose it.

    Davy, the c*cksucker of Apneaman’s tribe, loves to pretend that the Americans of 1933-1941 were constantly worrying about the well-being of the Europeans and with tears in their eyes and full of compassion with the Europeans mobilized themselves, after consultation of president Roosevelt (Americans are very democratic, you know), to come to the aid of the beleaguered Europeans to save them from “evil natzis”. And just to be on the sage side, colonized them until today.

    Let’s cut the crap.

    In February 1939 the war monger Roosevelt was caught by a journalist in saying that they Rhine river was America’s frontier.

    https://stanforddailyarchive.com/cgi-bin/stanford?a=d&d=stanford19390206-01.2.35

    Obviously he was forced to deny it.

    But it illustrates that Roosevelt and his cabal were thinking of nothing else than to get a war started in Europe in order to destroy it and get the American Century started.

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_weber.html

    David may not very smart in all things related to history (he doesn’t care since it has nothing to do with finance), but he is smart enough to follow the reasoning.

    But certain truths about America that are not too shiny, like its Deep State intentionally working at the destruction of European Man, including Davy, are to be dismissed as “anti-american”, copying the behavior of a certain minority that likewise always loves to wine about anti-semitism.

    Whatever Davy, I’m completely done with mass-murder advocates and notorious liars like you.

    And op top of that your sense of timing is outright stupid. You are defending a cause (US empire) that is with the back against the wall and shortly before its downfall.

    Macron, who was sold here as a Rothschild water carrier surprisingly received Putin first, with all egards, got along surprisingly well with anti-Swamper Trump and now wants to make the EU military sovereign. Wonder how Davy thinks he can incorporate the EU, Russia, China and Iran (to name few) into his halfway third world empire.

  31. Davy on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 3:32 pm 

    This is great I have the racist jerk pissed.

    Clog when have I bragged about the rape of Germany? I just told you we saved your ass. How is that bragging about rape? I should have said we kicked your ass since you are a Nazi jerk. We helped Europe out of a deep dark period. Most European are grateful. Sure the US got a wonderful deal out of it. Not all its efforts were altruistic. What country or people has been altruistic?

    Nope, I am not an imperialist. I am a doomer. I have a view of the world collapsing and hopefully coming together in that process to make it less bad. I will put my foot in assholes like you clog who constantly attack me and my country. Fuck each and every one of the extremist anti-Americans here. Those who are reasonable and moderate are fine. I am American culture and government critical but I am not going to put up with the shit that goes on around here and has been for 5 years now. The entire world does not hate the US. Many people here do hate the US. This site is a magnet for them. This site is just an insignificant place in the world. Maybe you are feeling you are more important than you are because this is your bully pulpit. You are feeling manic grandiosity. Clog, you are just a deranged racist jerk spouting off fantasy and revisions to suit your agenda of the golden age of Paris Berlin Moscow in a shiny 100% renewable world. What a joke.

    I am not going to engage in a WWII debate with you because your argument is one big history revision. I don’t really care anymore about the 20th century. I don’t care about the sins of the American empire. There are plenty of assholes here who only think about the sins of the American empire. IMA each and every one on this site is a part of these sins especially the stupid Canadians here. We are going into a dark century post American Empire. It is a time of a decay of our civilization and planetary destruction. We have bigger fishes to fry than worrying about poor widdle Europe and WWII. You are a fraud clog. You are also disgusting wanting a final solution for people of color. I am not crazy about other races but I am fair and honest. I have seen nothing to suggest Europeans are a super race like you want me to believe. I would rather be with white people but I respect other nationalities and races. So go fuck yourself sir.

  32. Cloggie on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 3:49 pm 

    I am not going to engage in a WWII debate with you because your argument is one big history revision.

    Chicken.

  33. makati1 on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 6:15 pm 

    Cloggie, Americans don’t have a clue about WW1 or WW2. They got the distorted propaganda version in school. You know, where the exceptional, indispensable America was the superman who won both single-handedly. The truth being that both times they only got physically involved AFTER the Germans were losing. And AFTER their trade with Germany was cur off. Few know that America was still trading with Germany long AFTER war was declared by the UK and France. $$$$, not morals. That is the FSofA. The UK won WW1 and Russia won WW2.

  34. makati1 on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 6:16 pm 

    BTW: Anyone who ignores history is doomed to repeat it.

  35. Davy on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 6:33 pm 

    That was brilliant mkat. I guess you studied history in grade school.

  36. GregT on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 6:43 pm 

    “I just told you we saved your ass. How is that bragging about rape? I should have said we kicked your ass since you are a Nazi jerk. We helped Europe out of a deep dark period.”

    There’s that WE again. Fuck are you ever delusional Davy.

  37. Davy on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 6:46 pm 

    At least I am not a slimy sicko.

  38. GregT on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 6:48 pm 

    “Cloggie, Americans don’t have a clue about WW1 or WW2. They got the distorted propaganda version in school.”

    And Hollywood.

  39. Davy on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 6:58 pm 

    Conspiracy addict let’s hear your goofy ass version again.

  40. makati1 on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 7:00 pm 

    Greg, I forgot that Hollywood is one of the biggest departments in the FSofA propaganda mill. Almost EVERY movie produced is full of propaganda bullshit. I stopped watching them these last 15 years as it has become blatant, They insert the military or at least a military reference in most every movie. Not to mention how they exaggerate the “exceptional” American way of life. No reality anywhere.

  41. GregT on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 7:09 pm 

    ” Almost EVERY movie produced is full of propaganda bullshit. I stopped watching them these last 15 years as it has become blatant,”

    I stopped watching television for the same reason.

  42. Davy on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 7:16 pm 

    No wonder you both are so boring and out of touch, commonly referred to as dorks.

  43. makati1 on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 7:18 pm 

    No Davy, I sturdy history as a hobby and have, all of my life. The internet has thousands of documentaries that were NOT produced by the American propaganda mill. It is very informative when you get the story from the other side. It is called “education”. Something not a part of America today. For instance:

    “The Great War” BBC 1964
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxK-qR14pVg&index=1&list=PLdEBPyoq11-7H07u7iwGM_3l-_QfxFj9B

    “Battlefield” WW2 BBC 1994
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbKYbLUkIpk&list=PL8hNHC9nbLlwpq5bbCkcODDmAXXFfuSKZ

    “Soviet Storm: WW2 in the East” Russia 2012
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A6UWkK2U4s&list=PLnNmfyY_ccRHl0yAJZy3r5Nfq2-Xr22di

    Not that you will bother. It might be educational. LOL

  44. makati1 on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 7:21 pm 

    Davy, media is NOT life. It is distraction. The dumbed down Americans are mindless because they watch too much TV and not enough educational experiences or learning. TV was designed to brainwash the viewers, not educate them. Now back to your regular scheduled PROGRAMING. LMAO

  45. Davy on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 7:27 pm 

    Mkat, you are so wonderful to yourself.

  46. makati1 on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 7:29 pm 

    Davy just keeps proving his delusions and insanity with every rebuttal. It must be difficult to live in Davy World and not see reality all around. He is America’s Brainwash Poster boy. Perfect example. LOL

  47. Davy on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 7:41 pm 

    Davy world sure has you hot and bothered so it sound like a great place.

  48. fmr-paultard on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 8:37 pm 

    Werner von Braun did squat credits all went to Kubrick. Tard extremist nazi preachers are the biggest liars in history of mankind. Anything to uphold veneer of ubermensch

  49. GregT on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 9:06 pm 

    Davy world is right up there with Hogan’s Heroes, Mash, and Fantasy Island.

  50. makati1 on Wed, 27th Sep 2017 9:09 pm 

    Davy, delusions are usually ‘great places’ or they would not be called delusions. You are entertainment when I am bored. Nothing more. You don’t even register on my emotion meter.

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