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Kunstler: Syriasly
“Peace with Honor” was President Nixon’s anodyne phrase for futzing around as long as possible in Vietnam to conceal the reality that the US military was getting its ass kicked by what we had initially thought was a 98-pound weakling of a Third World country. That was a half-century ago and I remember it now at age 106 thanks to my diet of kale and pepperoni sticks. Not ironically, the long struggle finally ended a few years after Nixon quit the scene, with the last straggling American evacuees waiting desperately for helicopter airlifts off the US embassy roof. And now, of course, Vietnam is a tourism hot-spot.
And so just the other day, the latest POTUS declared (in his usual way) that “we’ll be coming out of Syria, like, very soon. Let the other people take care of it now.” The utterance sent the neocon partisans in government into a paroxysm. Cries of “Say What?” echoed up and down the Great Mall. Which “other people” was Mr. Trump referring to? The United Auto Workers? Gandalf the Grey? The cast of Glee?
I doubt that the average Harvard faculty member can state with any conviction what the fuck is going on in Syria. Vietnam was like a simple game of Animal Lotto compared to the mystifying puzzle of Syria. And then, of course, once you get handle on who the players are, it’s another matter altogether to descry what US interests there might be.
One angle of the story is whether it is in America’s interest for Syria to become another failed state in a region of several other failed states. Whatever else you might say about US policy in that part of the world, the general result in places like Iraq, Libya, and Yemen has been anarchy and irresolvable factional conflict. In today’s world of nation-states, a central government is required to avoid that fate, and the embattled one in Syria happens to be the regime of Bashar al-Assad. The US has long militated for the overthrow of Assad, but I would also challenge you (and the Harvard faculty) to name any credible party or person who we have hypothetically proposed to replace him with.
You might argue that the Great Age of Nation States is winding down, that the world does not need them anymore, that they are the cause of too much strife and anguish. But then you would have to account for all the strife and anguish that occupied the world when it was composed of petty kingdoms, principalities, fiefdoms, and tribes. And, of course, following that logic you’d also have to inquire into the legitimacy of the US government — which, by the way, California is well into testing these days.
One might also propose that the battlefield of Syria, with its array of militant religious maniac armies, is just a proxy action for the tag-teams of the USA/Israel versus Russia/Iran. If so, the US has not been very clear or honest about it. Anyway, it has hardly been demonstrated that Russia is all that comfortable with Iran extending its influence to the Mediterranean Sea. I would take Russia’s presence in Syria as an attempt to block, or at least moderate, Iran’s influence there — which is one of the arguments for a US/Russia partnership in cleaning up the mess there.
That possible outcome has been hugely compromised by the RussiaRussiaRussia hysteria engineered by the neocon warhawks of the US permanent bureaucracy (a.k.a. the Deep State). The latest ploy by these players is the overcooked story of Vladimir Putin personally moving to poison the Russian/British double agent Skripal (and daughter) in Salisbury, UK. Given the extremely lethal nature of the supposed poison, Novichok, and the method supposedly used (smearing it on the Skripal doorknob), it’s hard to believe that the Skripals were able to walk to the park bench where they collapsed, nor that other persons ranging from the police to the medical examiners didn’t come into contact with the substance and fall ill. But this is the sort of cockamamie melodrama that it has come down to on our side of the gameboard.
The other part of the story worth considering is this: Syria, like other new-ish nations of the Middle East, was able to hugely increase its population in the post-WW2 era due to oil wealth (now all but gone in Syria), and other perqs of modernity like cheap grains for feeding all the newcomers. Dwindling oil revenue and severe drought (arguably induced by climate change) that caused crop failures commenced in 2006. So Syria became a workshop study in population overshoot and resource scarcity — problems that are sure to spread around other regions of the world in the years ahead. Nature’s way of correcting those imbalances is very ugly, and easily mistaken for mere politics.
82 Comments on "Kunstler: Syriasly"
Cloggie on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 3:44 pm
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/streit-in-der-union-wie-angela-merkels-macht-schwindet-a-1200914.html
Poor Merkel, her conservative cabinet ministers are attacking her around the clock, in a clear attemp to define the course of the CDU after her political demise. They openly claim that Islam does NOT belong to Germany, where the chancellorette opines it does.
She is going to lose.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 4:22 pm
Clogg
Even if you kicked out all the muslims in Europe. Your economy is still going to be in a depression and headed for collapse. Nothing would change at all. And there is not enough time to change anything. Even if Merkel dies. Who cares. Nothing will get better and nothing will change. Are problems are not political and social. They are economic and they are being driven by energy depletion and high energy cost. Two things that political leaders have no control over.
Boat on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 4:38 pm
Mm
Your wrong, electricity costs will go down in the future because of tech and renewables. Don’t you read? This is why nuke plants and coal are struggling. The electric btu is also consumed more than oil/transportation.
Add low cost batteries to the mix and over 60 percent of the world’s midterm btu has a flat to cheaper future. Long term the electrical btu future is even brighter.
Cloggie on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 4:42 pm
“Even if you kicked out all the muslims in Europe.”
We kicked so many out, muslims 3 times, jews once. Soviets took a hike and the Americans will leave soon, probably before 2025.
In contrast to the US, we don’t waste money on stupid obsolete carriers, but spend it on a new renewable energy base. Meanwhile offshore tenders no longer require public money. In other words, the transition is de facto a reality. If fossil prices will increase in the near future, the transition speed will increase accordingly, so expensive fossil-based power generation can written off earlier. I don’t worry any longer about energy.
onlooker on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 4:52 pm
how do you figure Boat, electricity costs will go down when if it goes like you optimists hope you will have your EV revolution and you will need so much more electricity. Logic would have electricity going up in accord with supply/demand cues.
Boat on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 5:11 pm
Onlooker
EV’s are years away before making much of an impact. We’ll see when the time comes. China will be the Canary in the mine. Their lead in policy will be the first decent data getting to scale and the remifications along the path.
Boat on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 5:41 pm
Mm
http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/02/investing/firstenergy-coal-bankruptcy-trump/index.html
JuanP on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 5:53 pm
“So Syria became a workshop study in population overshoot and resource scarcity”
I agree. I don’t follow the war on Syria closely, but I do read human interest articles on how the civilian population is coping and look at the pictures of the bombed cities to imagine what it must be like to live in a completely destroyed urban environment. These are extremely useful learning tools. Live real collapse smorgasbord!
makati1 on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 6:06 pm
Lots of techie dreamers here. All are going to very disappointed with future events, I think.
That said, not one person out of the 7.6+ billion of us has any idea what the future will bring in any area under discussion. All we can do is look at the current situation, factor in the logical series of events, and make a prediction. That is what I do.
My comments are based on facts, current observation and experience with, and knowledge of, the past. If they disagree with yours, so be it. Only the future will proved who, if any, are correct.
Meanwhile, I am preparing for my expected future. Are you preparing/prepared for yours? If not, why not?
makati1 on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 6:12 pm
Juan, I don’t follow the ME chaos either. I just hope that it stays there and, if there has to be a major war, it is not in Asia.
Had the Us mainland been subjected to city bombing and the terror of war in their own backyard in WW2, the Us would not be war mongering today. Death and destruction on a large scale has to come home to America to put an end to the empire of terror. So be it. Blow-back is a bitch but well deserved.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 6:52 pm
Renewables are a scam and don’t get me started on Tesla anything….
UC Davis Peer Reviewed Study: It Will Take 131 Years to Replace Oil with Alternatives (Malyshkina, 2010)
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es100730q
University of Chicago Peer Reviewed Study: predicts world economy unlikely to stop relying on fossil fuels (Covert, 2016)
https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/jep.30.1.117
Solar and Wind produced less than one percent of total world energy in 2016 – IEA WEO 2017
https://www.iea.org/publications/freepublications/publication/KeyWorld2017.pdf
Fossil Fuel Share of Global Energy since 1990 – BP 2017
https://imgur.com/k7VecMq
Renewable energy ‘simply won’t work’: Top Google engineers
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/21/renewable_energy_simply_wont_work_google_renewables_engineers/
Top scientists show why powering US using 100 percent renewable energy is a delusional fantasy
http://energyskeptic.com/2017/big-fight-21-top-scientists-show-why-jacobson-and-delucchis-renewable-scheme-is-a-delusional-fantasy/
At this rate, it’s going to take nearly 400 years to transform the energy system
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/610457/at-this-rate-its-going-to-take-nearly-400-years-to-transform-the-energy-system/
The Curse of Energy Efficiency
https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2018/02/26/Energy-Efficiency-Curse/
IEA Sees No Peak Oil Demand ‘Any Time Soon’
https://www.wsj.com/articles/iea-sees-no-peak-oil-demand-any-time-soon-1488816002
Boat on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 6:54 pm
Mak
Thank the US for keeping the oil flowing in the ME. So far the US has not replaced the gov of Venz. How is that going. The poor are paying close to $25 per barrel as a result. P’s like those higher prices?
MASTERMIND on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 6:56 pm
Projection of World Fossil Fuels by Country (Mohr 2015)
Over 900 different regions and subfuel situations were modeled using three URR scenarios of Low, High, and Best Guess. All three scenarios indicate that the consistent strong growth in world fossil fuel (coal, oil, gas) production is likely to cease after 2025. The Low and Best Guess scenarios are projected to peak before 2025 and decline thereafter. The High scenario is anticipated to have a strong growth to 2025 before stagnating in production for 50 years and thereafter declining.
https://www.scribd.com/document/375110317/Projection-of-World-Fossil-Fuels-by-Co
MASTERMIND on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 6:58 pm
The End of the Oil Age is Imminent!
Recently, the HSBC oil report stated that 80% of conventional oil fields were declining at a rate of 5-7% per year. This means that there will be an oil shortage of ~30 million barrels per day by 2030 and ~40 million barrels per day by 2040.
http://www.scribd.com/document/367688629/HSBC-Peak-Oil-Report-2017
What is mentioned far less often is that annual oil discoveries have lagged annual production since the 1980s.
https://imgur.com/a/6dEDt
Now, this problem has nothing to do with the recent decline in the oil price, which started in 2014. This has been an on-going problem for the past 30 years. Now, the IEA is predicting oil shortages by ~2020 due to declining exploration.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/iea-says-global-oil-discoveries-at-record-low-in-2016-1493244000
Here, the IEA blames this problem on the low oil price. But, this problem started in the 1980s. The problem is geological: we are running out of conventional cheap oil. Shale and tar sands are not the answer, either. Those resources are far too expensive, compared to conventional oil, because the global economy is based on cheap conventional oil. Expensive oil is not a replacement for cheap oil.
Based upon the HSBC report and the IEA, the End of Oil Age will start around ~2020: there will be a dramatic economic depression due to exhaustion of cheap oil. This will cause a global economic collapse.
Boat on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 7:12 pm
Mm
GE’s new turbines in 2020 will be 850′. How is that for a stocking stuffer.
Boat on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 7:18 pm
PS, enough electricity to power 16,000 homes from one. Put that in your 136 yr old pipe and puff it. Lol Flaming liberal Calif Davis whimp kids.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 7:24 pm
Boat
GE is on the verge of bankruptcy..Wind and solar are not efficient enough to run our world.
Solar and Wind produced less than one percent of total world energy in 2016 – IEA WEO 2017
https://www.iea.org/publications/freepublications/publication/KeyWorld2017.pdf
Boat on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 7:34 pm
Mm
I live in the energy capital of the world. We have 18 percent wind and growing.
Boat on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 7:36 pm
Did you know Texas had just 2 percent wind just 10 years ago? Our power has gone up less than inflation and inflation has been low.
makati1 on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 7:45 pm
Boat, I don’t care if the oil flows from the ME or anywhere. When it stops, the Us killing will stop. Then the world will adjust to conditions pre-oil. If it evades a nuclear exchange, it will be worth it. The whole system can collapse today and I would not care. I’m ready. Are you?
MASTERMIND on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 8:44 pm
Boat
It takes 150 wind turbines just to power one shopping center.
http://xray.rutgers.edu/~matilsky/windmills/shopping.html
You are energy illiterate.. Another dumb hick from a state of dumb imbreads.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 8:48 pm
Boat
I dont give a shit where you live. I live in the car capital of America (Michigan)..Does that make me a car expert? Your logic is laughable. You cant handle the truth. not because you are stupid but because you are weak. That is what happens to your mind when you live in Jesus Christ fantasy land. lol
MASTERMIND on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 8:49 pm
Madkat
You are outnumbered by a thousand to one. And you think you are prepared for the end of the world. You just want to die already so you can end your pathetic old crabby ass lonely life.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 10:12 pm
One nuclear Tsar bomb, air blasted over Beijing! And 6 million oil users gone!
https://outrider.org/nuclear-weapons/interactive/bomb-blast
Bye Bye Chinky eyes! LOL
makati1 on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 10:21 pm
Recent Chicago events:
“7 wounded in city shootings”
“Man killed in the Back of the Yards is identified”
“4 wounded in shootings on West, South sides”
“Chicago area teachers taking conceal carry classes, free of charge”
“Dr. Mona: Don’t downplay lead problems, or solutions, for kids in Flint water crisis”
“Feds charge 3 as rat poison-laced drugs take toll in Chicago”
“Manufacturing losses have fueled opioid addiction: ”
“Chicago has fewer murders in 2017, but 650 killed – CNN”
“Shot and wounded in 2017: 2,936 people.”
https://heyjackass.com/category/2017-stats/
Chicago is already a war zone.
Boat on Mon, 2nd Apr 2018 11:01 pm
Mm
Your car plants went to the deep South where chubby folks that go to church build cheaper cars. Eat a twinky, get some learning and get a job.
Cloggie on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 12:08 am
Chicago is already a war zone.
Yeah and not from these white anglo-saxon protestant types.
And millimind wants to import more of these gang types in his nihilistic desire to blow the country up and get his bolshevik revolution started.
Fine with me, bring it on millimind and wait to see what happens next. The rest of the world will immediately fill in the resulting power vacuum. We in Europe want whitey back and whitey has enough of third world USA anyway. Match made in heaven.
https://www.rt.com/news/387313-us-losing-leadership-eu-mogherini/
The US empire after Trump: back from 150 countries to 3-4 rump states on former US soil: SW back to Mexico, SE around Atlanta-Baltimore for Louis Farrakhan, Upstate New York for the Soros gang + Israel and majority white Heartland (area between Appalachians, Mississippi river, Red River of the South, Rockies) as a $7T/120 million junior partner of Paris-Berlin-Moscow. End good, all good.
Let’s hope we can keep the Chinese government from taking over Vancouver.
Cloggie on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 12:34 am
US drops Obama rule of 4.3 liter/100 km for new cars:
http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/usa-umweltbehoerde-kippt-regeln-zum-benzinverbrauch-von-barack-obama-a-1200943.html
Mercedes combines battery and fuel-cell:
http://www.spiegel.de/auto/aktuell/mercedes-glc-f-cell-neuer-suv-mit-wasserstoff-antrieb-a-1194242.html
Range 800 km, fueling 3 minutes. Goal: decrease dependency on still scarce H2-fueling stations.
Salman-KSA acknowledges right Israelis of a land for themselves (this is new):
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/saudi-arabien-mohammed-bin-salman-israelis-haben-das-recht-auf-ein-eigenes-land-a-1200933.html
In November the Israeli government admitted that secret connections with KSA do exist.
It looks like KSA is investing in the relationship with Washington, in defense against Turkey-Iran.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 12:35 am
Madkat
Chicago does not have a high murder rate they have high murder totals. They have the fourth highest murder rate. There are around 47 murders every day in America. So 650 out of around 17k really isn’t all that high. You are so uneducated and deluded! Stick to construction. Working with your hands because your mind is shit.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191134/reported-murder-and-nonnegligent-manslaughter-cases-in-the-us-since-1990/
MASTERMIND on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 12:41 am
Clogg
You are living in a total fantasy land..None of what you say is ever going to happen. Once the oil starts to run out the global economy is going to collapse. Along with all the worlds governments into total Anarchy! See German army leaked peak oil study below..
http://www.energybulletin.net/sites/default/files/Peak%20Oil_Study%20EN.pdf
Its going to be your own white brothers cutting your throat!
DerHundistLos on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 12:42 am
GREAT PACIFIC GARBAGE PATCH GROWING LIKE A MALIGNANT TUMOR
(CNN) A huge, swirling pile of trash in the Pacific Ocean is growing faster than expected and is now three times the size of France.
According to a three-year study published in Scientific Reports Friday, the mass known as the Great Pacific Garbage Patch is about 1.6 million square kilometers in size — up to 16 times bigger than previous estimates. That makes it more than double the size of Texas. Ghost nets, or discarded fishing nets, make up almost half the 80,000 metric tons of garbage floating at sea.
DerHundistLos on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 12:43 am
Forgot to add that 90% of the plastic pollution originates in Asia.
DerHundistLos on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 12:50 am
@ Apeneman
Must I send out an APB to find you? You just bolted w/o saying a word. Not nice.
makati1 on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 12:55 am
“Chicago violence: Why the dramatic increases in shootings, homicides?”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/91748847-132.html
“LeVail Smith was shot following a foot chase. So were 83 others.”
http://apps.chicagotribune.com/cpd-shootings-database/
“Chicago homicide rate compared: Most big cities don’t recover from spikes right away”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/data/ct-homicide-spikes-comparison-htmlstory.html
~26 Chicago murders per 100,000 people is about three times the murder rate in the Philippines. Who is more safe? LOL
deadly on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 1:15 am
The Crusades ended in 980 CE, then Reagan was elected and a thousand years later, the Crusades have returned. The attack on Libya early on in the Reagan presidency started it all all over again.
You are going to need a thousand bases around the world to carry out the New Crusades. The neocons got a good thing going, war a-go-go.
Since the First World War, WWI, to now, it is now one hundred years of war. Date back to the Civil War, add another fifty years, the maelstrom of war creates a fog.
Hardly a surprise that a state of war exists somewhere. You have to make money somehow and selling arms has great potential for profits, a motive to sell arms, profit.
War guarantees more profit, so more war can be expected. It does pay.
Ain’t gonna be no nuclear war, everybody will lose money, won’t be able to eat hundred dollar plates of food at a nice restaurant and then take off in a private jet for a joy ride to Shanghai for some Chinese street food.
The jet stream Silk Road is worldwide stuff.
The climate change everybody talks about is producing close to record lows, so it is cold outside, not warm at all. This week could break the records for lowest temperature in over a century. Colder than hell, in other words.
I suppose unusual weather can be expected, but cold temps this time of year is too much.
That’s climate change for ya, it doesn’t care one way or the other if the weather is warm or cold, it is what it is.
The forecast calls for more arms trading and more war.
No nuclear winter expected, costs too much.
I drink to keep from crying. Never works, the breakdown happens and the bawling starts all over again. Then you can keep drinking, like you really should. lol
Babtized on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 1:53 am
I am with deadly on nuclear war. Odds are it’s not going to happen. Politicians & 1%er’s don’t want their families harmed in war.
makati1 on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 2:45 am
Food for thought:
“Why Are All the Billionaires Moving to New Zealand?”
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/a9408/billionaires-new-zealand/
“Billionaires Are Building Bunkers In New Zealand, Prepping For The Apocalypse”
https://www.inquisitr.com/3950643/billionaires-are-building-bunkers-in-new-zealand-prepping-for-the-apocalypse/
“Why Silicon Valley billionaires are prepping for the apocalypse in New Zealand ”
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/feb/15/why-silicon-valley-billionaires-are-prepping-for-the-apocalypse-in-new-zealand
“How To Prepare For and Survive a Nuclear War”
https://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/how-to-prepare-for-nuclear-war/
“Is Nuclear War Becoming Thinkable?”
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/is-nuclear-war-becoming-thinkable/
“The insistence on the part of the many in the West that Putin must be resisted by using force majeure if necessary is based on gross exaggeration of the actual threat coming from Moscow. That nuclear weapons are now apparently employable in the plans for deterrence on the part of NATO, as well as in the Russian plans for self-defense, should be a terrifying prospect for anyone who cares about what might come next.”
Then think … Trump.
makati1 on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 2:49 am
Some recent articles give Capitalism less than 10 years before it is extinct. Some suggest Socialism will replace it. I doubt there will be any major governments operational by then. Democracy is already as dead as a Dodo. Will Capitalism follow? We shall see.
Theedrich on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 3:34 am
The Deep State likes murder and mayhem. It could not care less about American lives. After something like Iraq and Syria, its spokesmen merely say, “Oh, we made a few mistakes there. Let’s forget it and move on.” Meanwhile they continue to send American soldiers to Affyland and elsewhere in Allah’s funny farms to die, lose limbs, or return with Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder leading to veteran suicides at a rate of over 20/day.
Meanwhile the oligarchs, while distracting the masses with Russophobia, are importing dross and drugs from the ThirdWorld at unprecedented rates. Both the entire Demonic Party and Repub RINOs participate in this diseased frenzy. The judicial system dreams on about Constitutional utopia and refuses to address the demographic downspiral or the criminal bribe-ocratic political system. The blind U.S. drive to control the world continues as “sanctuary” cities and states gleefully work to destroy the White race forever.
Never mind that cybercrime is exploding, undermining large corporations and even cities. Yet Congress fiddles about not enough Negroes in big biz, women being whistled at at work, and preventing construction of the Trumpian wall. Heroin-exporting Mexico is sending us a caravan of Central American sludge to join the MS-13 murderers already here. China, remembering the Opium Wars of a century and a half ago, is clandestinely paying us back with fentanyl to kill tens of thousands of Americans each year.
Yet the political system is stalemated by the Deep State which neither party will touch. They are profiting too much from it.
The only solution to the Empire is a thermonuclear WMD in or on D.C.
Davy on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 4:04 am
Chicago is very similar to Holland but with 10 bad neighborhoods. You guys want to make it out as something horrible. The metro area of Chicago covers 10,900 sq/mi larger than half the size of Holland. The GDP is over half with a population under half. The GDP: Chicago-Naperville-Elgin, IL-IN-WI $569 billion with 9.5 million, https://tinyurl.com/ybvl8mgm. Holland GDP: The GDP figure in 2017 was $828BIL with 17MIL people, https://tinyurl.com/yaush9u7. Please quit the cherry picking and show balance.
“These Are The 10 Worst Chicago Neighborhoods For 2018”
https://tinyurl.com/ybw6ytf5
“We examined 76 of Chicago’s neighborhoods to find out the worst places to live. These ten places are a little too far downwind of Chicago in terms of quality of life: Riverdale Fuller Park Englewood West Englewood South Deering Washington Park New City Pullman West Pullman Grand Crossing”
Davy on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 4:06 am
“Some recent articles give Capitalism less than 10 years before it is extinct. Some suggest Socialism will replace it.”
Sure Billy, lets see the articles. We see what happened to one of your favourite countries, Venezuela. that went socialist.
Davy on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 4:26 am
Billy 3rd world, how about this police state apparatus? This is your favorite Asian power, any comments?
“Welcome To Xi Jinping’s Orwellian Dystopia”
https://tinyurl.com/y6wo79qr
“The announcements offer a glimpse into Beijing’s ambitious attempt to create a Social Credit System (SCS) by 2020 — that is, a proposed national system designed to value and engineer better individual behaviour by establishing the scores of 1.4 billion citizens and “awarding the trustworthy” and “punishing the disobedient”.
“Could China combine these projects to engineer society? If the Chinese Government manages to amalgamate the regional pilot projects and the immense amounts of data by 2020, it will be able to exert absolute social and political control and “pre-emptively shape how people behave,” Samantha Hoffman, an independent consultant on Chinese state security, said. “If you are aware that your behaviour will negatively or positively impact your score, and thus your life and the lives of those you associate with, then you will likely adjust your decision-making accordingly,” Ms Hoffman said.”
makati1 on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 4:47 am
Theedrich, as usual, we agree on most points. Those who actually believe that a nuclear war is not possible have their head where the sun doesn’t shine. Any major conflict between ANY of the three super powers will eventually escalate into a nuclear exchange. That means that, eventually, many nukes hit the Us mainland. Distraction of the serfs is the name of the game today. Not facts and reality. DC is insane. And the serfs expect rational decisions from them? LMAO
makati1 on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 5:57 am
If you have not read it, or not lately, you might want to pick up a copy of “1984” by George Orwell and see the future unfolding now.
““Oceania” was a nation described in George Orwell’s “1984” as being comprised of Britain (called “Airstrip One,”) and the United States. There were two other superpowers, namely Eurasia and Eastasia. …
You are witnessing the final alignment of those spheres of influence that are almost identical to the novel that Orwell wrote. …
I’m characterizing much of the population…flitting from one reality show to the next dose of Hollywood propaganda and paradigm shift labeled as “movies” and only loyal to the country as long as the handouts (labeled “entitlements”) keep flowing. …
The battle right now is to see who will align with the U.S.-British Western hegemony [Oceania] against Russia and her allies (such as Iran, Syria, etc.) [Eurasia] with China being the “top banana” in the Orient [Eastasia]. …
Oh, we’re building a wall to keep out the illegal aliens? …
A wall will work in the opposite direction as well: to keep the taxpayer-serfs in. …
All your communications are monitored: every e-mail, every telephone call. Talk to your friends in Moscow from college, and you’ll come up on a watch list. Talk to anyone outside of the U.S. and it’s a guarantee that you’ll be recorded and monitored. …
They will have three spheres, just as in the novel “1984,” and keep the flames of ethnic difference fanned just enough to make War not an eventuality, but a managed, controllable event. …
In the end, the world will not notice its enslavement, because the generations capable of creative thought and reason will have been replaced by a stultified, obedient mass of humanity only capable of acting in a manner predetermined by the rulers. (Sound familiar Americans?) The world of “1984” is forming today. The Gulags are just around the corner. They’ll have “occupants” as soon as the time is right. Not at gunpoint. The people will enter the camps of their own accord, enslaved with the baits of entitlements and material conveniences. The world of “1984” was written about years ago, but it is upon us, now, and before we know it, we will be in it.”
You were warned.
alain gargasson on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 6:06 am
The energy transition is a physical impossibility so a big scam. technology will always need mineral resources and energy. In Brazil the Carajas mine produces 120 million tons of iron and, uses thousands of tons of explosive, the excavator and the 250 ton CAT truck will work with a water engine? transported by rail (900kms – 4 locos, 330 wagons – 40,000 tons), exported by 400,000t ore carrier in China (150litres / Km of heavy fuel oil). How to do it without oil? In agriculture for example you replace the energy of agricultural machinery by what other energy, knowing that today you need on average 100l / ha of diesel, and irreplaceable phosphates whose peak is expected in twenty years? Just an example for wind turbines, completely sustainable , the world produces 5 billion cement, how to do?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtIgcNR5ulc
Davy on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 6:38 am
“You are witnessing the final alignment of those spheres of influence that are almost identical to the novel that Orwell wrote. …”
Identical is a extrem Billy 3rd world.
“I’m characterizing much of the population…flitting from one reality show to the next dose of Hollywood propaganda and paradigm shift labeled as “movies” and only loyal to the country as long as the handouts (labeled “entitlements”) keep flowing. …”
How much is “Much” or is much just another extremist view of the US while you allow the otherside free passage into your fantasy agenda wonderland.
“The battle right now is to see who will align with the U.S.-British Western hegemony [Oceania] against Russia and her allies (such as Iran, Syria, etc.) [Eurasia] with China being the “top banana” in the Orient [Eastasia]. …”
Sorry, much more complex than your intellectually light melodrama supporting your anti-American agenda. Does not work in the real world. Today we have a globalized world where money flows trump nation states on many levels
“Oh, we’re building a wall to keep out the illegal aliens? … A wall will work in the opposite direction as well: to keep the taxpayer-serfs in. …”
Please, spare me. They is a reason for taxes Billy 3rd world. Most of us would rather live in a 2st world country. Some of our taxes are going to support you. Imagine that, you are whining about something that benefits you.
“All your communications are monitored: every e-mail, every telephone call. Talk to your friends in Moscow from college, and you’ll come up on a watch list. Talk to anyone outside of the U.S. and it’s a guarantee that you’ll be recorded and monitored. …”
Billy 3rd world, I already showed you it is worse in Asia
“They will have three spheres, just as in the novel “1984,” and keep the flames of ethnic difference fanned just enough to make War not an eventuality, but a managed, controllable event. …”
Explain that one, LOL.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 6:42 am
Theo and Madkat
You both are tin foil hat lunatics. And are in “Deep States” of paranoia…Just blame everything on politics you both are retards and missing the energy equation.
pointer on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 7:12 am
alain, Great video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtIgcNR5ulc It’s amazing what you can do with a bit of petroleum.
All, Perhaps would a more precise model of the world be that no one is really in charge, and that there are just factions of troublemakers and profiteers all pressing their agendas?
MASTERMIND on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 7:49 am
The richest Americans get a $33,000 tax break under the GOP tax law. The poorest get $40.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/03/30/the-richest-americans-get-a-33000-tax-break-under-the-gop-tax-law-the-poorest-get-40/?utm_term=.daa4bc1f62d4
joe on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 9:31 am
The war machine has always existed, since Cain killed his brother men have been fighting. Wanna stop war? Destroy humanity. People blame the US, its not their fault they are the worlds leading murderers right now, it’s human nature, the other countries are just jealous. They wish they could zap families in their homes using supertech drones like Obama did, the Saudis are starving to death millions of children in Yemen, and people think the war is in Syria, its against all non – Sunni muslims, Christianity is next! Read Revelations, the muslims are supposed to win and terrorise all sinners until God comes down and throws them into hell.