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Kunstler: Sleepwalkers Awoke!

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Andrew Sullivan called it “the Great Awokening” in a shrewd New York Magazine column this week. He refers, off course, to earlier episodes of American religious hysteria, namely the Great Awakening of the 1730s that featured the Rev. Jonathan Edwards raining sulfur and brimstone down on guilt-wracked New Englanders, and then the Second Awakening of the the early 1800s that spun off innumerable Protestant sects, cults, and utopian experiments. I like the term “Wokesterism” because the “ism” part acknowledges that the current hysteria makes a religion out of politics.

      Sullivan’s theory is that Wokesterism is an improvised replacement for sclerotic American Christianity, to fill the vacuum of entropic meaninglessness that pervades life in the republic these days. He says:

     And so we’re mistaken if we believe that the collapse of Christianity in America has led to a decline in religion. It has merely led to religious impulses being expressed by political cults. Like almost all new cultish impulses, they see no boundary between politics and their religion.

     Wokesterism eerily mirrors many of the harsher practices of the most severe American Protestantism. It offers its own original sin, “white privilege,” from which there is neither redemption nor hope of redemption — like the old Presbyterian hell for babies who have come into this world drenched in sin. No amount of abject apology will avail for heretics to Wokesterism. The principal aims of Wokesterism are coercion of others, persecution, and punishment of the guilty (the un-Woke). Most importantly, it requires the suspension of individual conscience in order to promote unthinking, robotic obedience and mob justice. That helps explain the disgraceful blindness of the Wokester Left, especially the educated elites who work in the news media, the computer tech sector, and other “creative class” vocations.

     One thing that Sullivan leaves out is the necessity for the Devil. That role is filled by Mr. Trump. His sinister cargo of belief, countering the Wokefullness of unicorns and rainbows, is the dark theology of MAGA, and Mr. Trump’s followers are the imps, demons, incubi and succubi of deplorable fly-over land. Wokesters will spare no effort to vanquish all this wickedness, and even lying and cheating in the service of that end is considered fair play. Hence the arrant and epic dishonesty of The New York Times.

       Interesting case in point: Yesterday’s developments in the General Flynn court case are not even present in this morning’s Times. I speak of the action on the bench of Federal Judge Emmet Sullivan. It’s been brought to his attention that the scurrilous entrapment of Gen. Flynn by Woke FBI managers entailed departures from normal, lawful procedure. Gen. Flynn was interrogated in January of 2017, and the FBI account of the interview was not written (supposedly) until August off that year. The reason that reports and memoranda must be written ASAP after an interview is for the obvious reason that much important fact may be forgotten or misremembered if not documented right away. There is actually reason to believe that earlier versions of the report exist (or did exist), and they were trashed or buried when the main interrogator-of-Flynn, Peter Strzok, was cashiered from Robert Mueller’s team in July 2017. Judge Sullivan has demanded that the FBI produce those earlier docs by today (Friday) at 3:00 pm. It will be interesting to see if the FBI complies… or not. There is also a fair chance that Judge Sullivan will throw out Gen. Flynn’s conviction based on prosecutorial misconduct.

     In the event, we could see the awesome downfall of the Archangel Mueller, and the unravelling of Wokester dreams of defeating the Devil via the Mueller inquisition. It will certainly be an embarrassment to the ardent Wokesters of the news media, who have shilled for this campaign for over two years. The General Flynn business is not the only thread unwinding in the giant tapestry of Wokester narrative. As in other epic persecutions, like the Jacobin Reign of Terror in 1790s France, and Mao Zedong’s Cultural Revolution of the 1960s, the tables are turning. The inquisitors, prosecutors, and executioners are going too face charges themselves, and harsh punishment is not out of the question.

     The defeat of Wokesterism would be a very salutary outcome for a nation that has so badly lost its bearings to the worst of human instincts: religious persecution. It could be a fatal blow to the Democratic Party, which will have to find an alternative reason for its existence than Devil-and-Demon hunting. The Devil hunters themselves could be in the dock in 2019, answering for their actual crimes against American citizens and the public interest. Even the sainted Holy Mother of Wokesterism, the Archangel Hillary, may find herself wingless in a witness chair, answering how all that schwag from Russian banksters happened to end up in her foundation’s cookie jar.

Kunstler



57 Comments on "Kunstler: Sleepwalkers Awoke!"

  1. Davy on Fri, 14th Dec 2018 11:54 am 

    “In the event, we could see the awesome downfall of the Archangel Mueller, and the unravelling of Wokester dreams of defeating the Devil via the Mueller inquisition.”

    When I see Mueller’s fake clean cut grandfather look I get a gag impulse. This guys is thoroughly corrupted as is this whole process. Trump may be disgusting but these folks drip dishonesty and lies.

  2. Davy on Fri, 14th Dec 2018 12:02 pm 

    My country has become an idiocracy.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BBvIweCIgwk

  3. jedrider on Fri, 14th Dec 2018 12:02 pm 

    I see two narratives unfolding that contradict one another, this despite prison sentences being handed out one after another.

    So, either Mueller is succeeding or he is not. Trump Could be an angel in disguise?
    — Nahh! —

  4. Theedrich on Fri, 14th Dec 2018 11:50 pm 

    Alas, Wokesterism does not remain domestic. Almost all of America’s wars have been, and continue to be, evangelistic enterprises.  The country’s embassadorial and military missionaries are on a divine mission to remake the world in the American democratic image, even if we have to destroy a country or two in order to save the benighted folks therin.  World War II is the prime example of this, but the Korean, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraqi, Libyan and Syrian wars, among others, also show this clearly.

    American Protestant Cretianity needs to have devils and demons to justify its own existence.  And war against incarnate but supernatural “evil” will always provide that justification.

  5. Cloggie on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 4:03 am 

    It weren’t “protestant oligarchs” who instigated WW2.

    https://tinyurl.com/y72vo83x

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/26/churchill-baruch-and-eisenhower/

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/27/churchill-stalin-alliance-as-of-1934/

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/25/bullitt-reveals-in-april-1939-that-war-has-been-decided-upon/

    http://www.fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/WSC/Waley_Cohen.html

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v07/v07p498_Okeefe.html

    (The moneymen behind Churchill, organized in a group called The Focus)

    Baruch, Meisky, Bullitt, Waley-Cohen, none of (((them))) were Protestants.

    By 1933 they had the US and USSR and now they wanted Europe as well. And got it. And they had neocon Churchill to get the job done for them.

  6. Davy on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 4:57 am 

    “American Protestant Cretianity needs to have devils and demons to justify its own existence. And war against incarnate but supernatural “evil” will always provide that justification.”

    We can thank neder for American protestantism. Funny how he whines about it when it is from the fruit of his nation and region.

  7. Cloggie on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 5:44 am 

    We can thank neder for American protestantism.

    I said: IT WERE NOT US PROTESTANTS WHO INSTIGATED WW2.

    Learn to read.

    By the turn of the century the WASPs were outcompeted by the TalmudTurks from the stetls of the Ukraine.

    Hilarious video illustrating my point: a scared conservative [*] white couple made fun of by the satanic TalmudTurk Sascha Cohen (as of [2:07])

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdKm5lBb2ek

    This is so exemplary for the state of affairs in the US.

    [*] – There is nothing to “conserve” in the US.
    Reaction is the only way forward.
    Um, make that backwards.

  8. Davy on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 5:50 am 

    “I said: IT WERE NOT US PROTESTANTS WHO INSTIGATED WW2. Learn to read.”

    Learn to read neder, American Protestantism came from northern euroland. What a fruitcake who does not see the tree that the apple dropped from. Your loins brought forth this monster and you yourself are an example of the worst of northern euro Protestantism. Even though you are an atheist you are still one of them.

  9. Cloggie on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 6:10 am 

    “American Protestantism came from northern euroland.”

    Holland was THE core country in the Protestant and capitalist revolution of the 17th century and I’m proud of it.

    It was Holland that defeated Catholic run Britain, France and Germany in 1672…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampjaar

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j21t1i_SiKI

    … and invaded Britain in 1689 in response…

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/26/bbc-british-biggest-fibs-the-glorious-revolution/

    …in order to save the Protestant revolution in Europe, by tilting the balance in Britain and made a Protestant country out of it (while plundering its financial reserves in order to keep Catholic French Lou14 in check).

    Today, almost all of the top 10 countries in wealth pecking order are capitalist-Protestant… because of its inherent Calvinist work-ethic and because of Christianity being reduced from 7/7 to Sunday only, leaving 6 days per week for work, resulting in the wealth levels we have today. Thanks to a revolution that began in Italy (Renaissance) and was completed in Holland:

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2018/03/10/the-netherlands-in-the-17th-century/

    Enter Modernity.

    Next the success-formula was exported to the US by mostly Holland and Britain. In the 19th century, freedom-loving America was very much like Holland, until the tribe of I AM THE MOB infiltrated in America by the end of the 19th century, took over its media, finance and academia (and hence its government by 1933) and began to put America on the course of empire and international conquest. Until 2016.

    That wasn’t Protestantism, that was the Talmud-in-action.

  10. Davy on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 6:44 am 

    ”That wasn’t Protestantism, that was the Talmud-in-action.”

    American Protestantism is the issue of your northern euroland loin’s neder and it is primarily responsible for the wrecking of the planet through its historic active efforts and its intellectual bequeathment of exploitation and criminal cultural destruction from the colonial era. You are front and center of this crime against the planet on the forum here. You should be ashamed of yourself for these crimes. I am ashamed of what has come out of my country that was given to us by yours.

  11. Cloggie on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 7:07 am 

    American Protestantism is the issue of your northern euroland loin’s neder and it is primarily responsible for the wrecking of the planet through its historic active efforts and its intellectual bequeathment of exploitation and criminal cultural destruction from the colonial era.

    It is absolutely true that Protestantism was at the forefront of colonialism (not from that backwards Slavic territories where you are from). So what? It was the best thing that ever happened to the colonized darkies.

    Any idea how they were? Have a look at a tribe that recently made the news:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeBzAp3G690

    Pure.stone.age.people.

    They were all like that. Stupid stone age cannibals. What were the Europeans supposed to do with them? Turn them into financial advisors.lol? Farmers? Clerks? Military men? Men of science?

    Stuyvesant, Indians, New Amsterdam:

    https://ondisplayblog.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/encounters-in-old-manhattan-american-museum-of-natural-history.jpg

    Give me a break.

    What really happened was that in a matter of a few centuries, these stone age cannibals turned into somewhat modern people, skipping a development process of tens of thousands of years, white man had to go through on his own. Thanks to colonialism and yes, even slavery.

    Ask Anonymouse1 or Donald J. Chimp if they want to return to the bush of Africa.

    They don’t.

    No African-American wants that. What they really want is dine out on fake guilt complexes, kept alive by depressed second hand Europeans like yourself from Slavistan, whose only interest is in scoring fake moral points, born out of a very real inferiority complex, Slavs like you have against western Europeans… at the cost of the future of your own children, who you condemn to have to live in a third world shithole cuntry.

    Now go back to your goat manure, shithead and deserve yourself a cup of borscht.

    Makati once made the very valid point that before 1850, most immigrants were from western Europe. But after 1850, people from backward Eastern Europe entered the US, lowering the quality of the population. The existing population of western European stock didn’t like it one bit.

    For 40 years, there was somewhat of a “Holland mania” raging in the US:

    https://www.amazon.com/Holland-Mania-Annette-Stott/dp/0879519061/ref=sr_1_1

    In response to immigration from Eastern Europe, the existing population began to idealize Europe and 2 countries in particular were candidates to be the focal point of that admiration: Holland and Britain. But since the war of independence had been fought against Britain (with Dutch aid), Holland Mania it was to be. and lasted until the end of WW1.

    After WW1, America had changed from an inward -looking country to one that was put on an imperial, globalist path (by The Tribe). Exit Holland Mania.

  12. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 7:21 am 

    CLog

    I love you post links to entire books and don’t put them into any kind of context..

    Aren’t you going to post a link to that fat dough boy neo cons book of Pat Buchan?

    You are dumb as dirt and so desperate to prove a narrative that doesn’t exist..

    Your fantasy future is all collapsing! Why don’t you follow your leader Hitler and kill yourself now before it gets any worse?

  13. Davy on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 7:34 am 

    “It is absolutely true that Protestantism was at the forefront of colonialism”
    Well, that is a start on the road to redemption from your horrible sins of planetary and cultural destruction.

    “(not from that backwards Slavic territories where you are from).”
    So now you are calling the Czeck republic (dad’s side) in particular the Sudeten land Slavic? LOL. Besides mom is 100% German from the north. Hannover area to be exact. You are a lowland dirty German kind. The Germans don’t even claim you. Look what they did to you in WWII.

    “Now go back to your goat manure, shithead and deserve yourself a cup of borscht.”
    Translation: I hurl childish putdowns when I am wounded and whining.

    “Makati once made the very valid point that before 1850, most immigrants were from western Europe. But after 1850, people from backward Eastern Europe entered the US, lowering the quality of the population. The existing population of western European stock didn’t like it one bit.”
    He is full of shit too many were from Germany, Ireland, and Italy around the time of the civil war and after. Where is your dumbass friend billy anyway? Did the lunatic JuanP run him off with his bad behavior IMA behavior you support by whining about it but loving the protection it offers you? You are one slimy stinking Nazi neder.

  14. Cloggie on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 7:54 am 

    White deplorable protests continue in continental Europe, where Americans prefer to sit on their a*:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6498733/Up-8-000-police-bolster-streets-Paris-Yellow-Vest-protesters-plan-chaos.html

  15. Davy on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 8:00 am 

    “White deplorable protests continue in continental Europe, where Americans prefer to sit on their a*:”

    Your deplorables in the US you speak lovingly about already beat you to the punch, neder, they elected Trump. Looks like you are following yet again. Remember what I told you about the leash? There should be leash laws for comments like yours.

  16. JuanP on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 8:06 am 

    The Exceptionalist has been unleashed again! LOL! God, you are so fucking full of shit, Davy, it is unbelievable!

  17. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 8:08 am 

    Clogg

    There is no evidence the protesters are on your side.. You just make up lies to try to spin everything in a positive direction..Your region if collapsing..

    Maybe if you read news other than a fake news tabloid that is banned by wiki for fake stories.. you wouldnt be so ignorant..

    I see some new BMW and VW factories coming to America soon!

    LMFAO!

  18. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 8:09 am 

    Peak oil is now..

    IEA Chief warns of world oil shortages by 2020 as discoveries fall to record lows
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/iea-says-global-oil-discoveries-at-record-low-in-2016-1493244000

    Saudi Arabia’s Energy Minister Warns of World Oil Shortages Ahead
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-minister-sees-end-of-oil-price-slump-1476870790

    Saudi Aramco chief warns of looming oil shortage
    https://www.ft.com/content/ed1e8102-212f-11e7-b7d3-163f5a7f229c

    Sleepwalking Into The Next Oil Crisis
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2018/03/23/is-the-world-sleepwalking-into-an-oil-crisis/#509edc8b44cf

  19. JuanP on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 8:11 am 

    The USA is self destroying. We still have some time here, but once the US shale bubble stops growing it will be game over. You better prepare before the bubble bursts. And, it is Americans doing all the destruction, not the Russians or the Chinese.

  20. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 8:15 am 

    I know trump is a crazy guy but if you really think about it why would they go into trade war intentionally and decline the economy?

    I could only think of 1 good reason.

    They know behind closed doors the how much oil they really have and they can forecast it so they have to go into trade war to slower demand so oil price dont spike..

  21. Cloggie on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 8:18 am 

    Hard Brexit coming nearer. It is completely irrelevant who runs the UK: May, Johnson, Corbyn or Catweazle, the EU has made up its mind, the Barnier-Raab deal is it or no deal:

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/brexit-minister-von-theresa-may-denken-ueber-alternativen-nach-a-1243908.html

    The pain of amputation will be equal on both sides, but on the European side smeared out on 7 times as many heads:

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/brexit-minister-von-theresa-may-denken-ueber-alternativen-nach-a-1243908.html

    At stake for Germany are 750,000 jobs and German investment in the UK of 120 billion euro. For Holland it is even worse.

    My counter-agument: make a u-turn to Russia and dump the produce there. Eurasian markets are insatiable.

  22. Cloggie on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 8:21 am 

    “I could only think of 1 good reason.”

    Which illustrates the minuteness of the walnut that passes as your brain.

    Trump is forced to close his borders for foreign trade because the US lost competition on world markets. He HAS to protect US business.

  23. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 8:23 am 

    Debt Worldwide Hits Record $184 Trillion, or $86,000 Per Person

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-13/debt-worldwide-hits-record-184-trillion-or-86-000-per-person

  24. Davy on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 8:30 am 

    “The Exceptionalist has been unleashed again! LOL! God, you are so fucking full of shit, Davy, it is unbelievable!”

    Good Juan, you are at least trying to limit the bad behavior and avoiding the identity theft and socks. Showing your real face is a start. Next thing to work on is your disgusting vocabulary. I would also try to say something intelligent instead of the childish putdowns.

  25. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 8:37 am 

    Clogg is dreaming of a white peckerwood Christmas!

  26. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 8:51 am 

    Clogg

    Trade wars don’t protect business you uneducated dimwit..They just cause inflation..

    It was the Taft tariffs during the depression that pro longed it and lead to a shooting war with Germany..

    I guess you must not have learned about that watching your amateur youtube videos about WW2..Which makes sense why you wont get your ideas verified by an independent historian..

    You cant handle truth is why..You know deep down though its all a delusion and mental illness..

  27. Cloggie on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 8:52 am 

    Your deplorables in the US you speak lovingly about already beat you to the punch, neder, they elected Trump.

    BS. Putting a cross on a ballot paper doesn’t count as resistance. Every European country had grassroots populist parties since the seventies. Americans were lucky that a billionaire volunteered to jump onto the soap box, otherwise Rep-voters would still be bragging about their Chinese girlfriend, just to show how PC they are.

  28. Cloggie on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 8:57 am 

    Yellow Vests live:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm7-8WhA05A

  29. Cloggie on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 9:05 am 

    Doesn’t sound like economic recession to me:

    https://cleantechnica.com/2018/12/13/us-co2-emissions-increase-by-3-in-2018-says-trumps-own-administration/

    “US CO2 Emissions Increase By 3% In 2018, Says Trump’s Own Administration”

    https://cleantechnica.com/2018/12/14/volkswagen-releases-a-few-specs-about-its-upcoming-id-sedan/

    “Volkswagen Releases A Few Specs About Its Upcoming ID Sedan”

    The #VWID offers a #range of up to 550 km for the price of a modern Golf Diesel, and will come on the market as a 100% #emissionneutral #eCar. /JS

    https://cleantechnica.com/2018/12/14/renewables-are-the-cleanest-the-cheapest/

    “Renewables Are The Cleanest & The Cheapest”

  30. Davy on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 9:08 am 

    “BS. Putting a cross on a ballot paper doesn’t count as resistance.”
    Sure it does, it is how it is supposed to be when it turns to yellow jerseys the system is broke. Euroland is broken neder and you are going down. We will follow you. Please make room when you get there.

    “Every European country had grassroots populist parties since the seventies.”
    Sure neder, its called governing by committee and this is why euroland gets little done except make good food and wine.

  31. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 9:09 am 

    We Don’t Mine Enough Rare Earth Metals to Replace Fossil Fuels With Renewable Energy

    A new scientific study supported by the Dutch Ministry of Infrastructure warns that the renewable energy industry could be about to face a fundamental obstacle: shortages in the supply of rare metals.

    https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/a3mavb/we-dont-mine-enough-rare-earth-metals-to-replace-fossil-fuels-with-renewable-energy

    Warning of shortage of essential minerals for laptops, cell phones, electric cars, solar panels, wiring
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/03/170320110042.htm

    Air pollution is choking solar energy around the world
    https://www.popsci.com/smog-reduces-solar-energy?fbclid=IwAR1SxAnksG5YAEgj3doGEptc6zoYoQtFvqmH3SHM6RSIaIYY49qGak4IVbI

  32. Cloggie on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 9:13 am 

    Price development electricity storage like with computer storage:

    https://cleantechnica.com/2018/12/07/envision-energy-says-ev-battery-cell-costs-will-fall-below-50-kwh-by-2025/

    “Envision Energy Says EV Battery Cell Costs Will Fall Below $50/kWh By 2025”

    During my student days I had a shitty job at Eindhoven Airport air freight terminal to earn money for a Commodore 1541 drive. If I remember well they costed 1000 hard Dutch guilders at the time. Storage volume: a lousy 170 kB.

    Today you can buy 2 GB hard drives for less than 100 euro. 5 times cheaper for 10,000 times more storage.

    I’m not suggesting that we’ll witness that spectacular a development, but prices do come down rapidly.

  33. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 9:17 am 

    Trump is a pluto populist..He has made more money for himself and his family than any president in history..His voter are dumber than dirt…And here is proof

    The majority of Trump supports 56% believe in “Pizzagate”..That Hillary Clinton is running a child pedophile ring out of the basement of a pizza parlor

    https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/12/27/belief-conspiracies-largely-depends-political-iden

    You just can’t make this stuff up..Trump supports have got to be the dumbest Americans in the history of the country..Idocrocy on steroids!

    LMFAO!

  34. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 9:19 am 

    Clogg

    Its all wish thinking..

    Just like the flying car of the future!

    LMFAO!

  35. Cloggie on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 9:20 am 

    “Yabut, you need fossil fuel for heavy transport!”

    No you don’t:

    https://cleantechnica.com/2018/12/12/hydrogen-is-competing-with-batteries-overhead-lines-for-rail-energy/

    French-made hydrogen train operational in Northern Germany.

    Look, it works!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ael-31dOULY

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2018/12/08/germany-the-worlds-first-major-renewable-energy-economy/

  36. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 9:22 am 

    Clogg

    Dont worry we will be mining asteroids soon and flying through galaxy on solar powered hoover boards!

  37. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 9:24 am 

    CLogg

    Ships, planes and trucks are what powers this world..You moron..

    Hey clog I have some magic beans I would love to sell you..

  38. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 9:26 am 

    CLogg is like a 12 year old child..LOOK IT WORKS..We are saved! LOL

    I just laugh when I see his nonsense like Hydrogen trains..Because its pure ignorance of how our complex societies work..

  39. Cloggie on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 9:30 am 

    VW e-vehicles demonstrated in the US:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCgdpifvfsY

    With storage cost of lower than $50/kWh by 2025 only absolute morons (like our mobster) will deny that e-vehicles are going to take over in a couple of years. 40 kWh battery and range of 500 km would cost less than $2,000

    Sell your shares Shell, BP and Exxon now to some sucker, like the mobster! (not that he has any money.lol)

  40. Davy on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 9:33 am 

    you gov dot com is a liberal rag and a political corporation. It would be like me talking about one of the conservative rags Koch brothers supports. Omagine how disturbed you would be. LOL Come on MOB you can do better

  41. Davy on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 9:35 am 

    “French-made hydrogen train operational in Northern Germany. Look, it works!”

    did you ask them where they got their hydrogen from?

  42. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 9:52 am 

    Davy

    YouGov is an international Internet-based market research and data analytics firm, headquartered in the UK, with operations in Europe, North America, the Middle East and Asia-Pacific.[2]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouGov

    You gov one of the highest quality polls there are in the entire world..

    Enough with your ad hom logical fallacies..Proving once again that right wingers are morons who can’t handle reality

  43. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 9:55 am 

    Davy

    If you can use a source other than zerohedge for a day..I will give you a lollipop!

    LMFAO!

  44. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 9:57 am 

    CLogg

    Considering you can’t take an EV out of the city..They are pretty much useless to the majority..

    And they are crap cars that are super expensive..

  45. Davy on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 10:34 am 

    “YouGov is an international Internet-based market research and data analytics firm, headquartered in the UK, with operations in Europe, North America, the Middle East and Asia-Pacific.[2]”
    All the more reason to find them suspect as bias.

    “You gov one of the highest quality polls there are in the entire world..”
    Sure they do for extremist liberal.

    “Enough with your ad hom logical fallacies..Proving once again that right wingers are morons who can’t handle reality”
    What?…translation: sounds good but I don’t know what I am saying

  46. Davy on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 10:37 am 

    “If you can use a source other than zerohedge for a day..I will give you a lollipop!”

    Tell you what MOB can you keep track of where I visit so we can have an third party audit. LOL. I think you are pissed because you have egg on your face. BTW, posted one article that was by ZH I believe. The others were different sources. Please check for me

  47. Davy on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 10:40 am 

    “Considering you can’t take an EV out of the city..They are pretty much useless to the majority..”

    They will be game changers MOB especially in euroland but not as wonderful as neder wants to portray them.

  48. Davy on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 10:43 am 

    I even surprise myself sometimes with how stupid I am. Y’all must be blown away.

  49. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 11:31 am 

    Davy

    How is that proof of bias? How do bias a online poll?

    See this is what happens when you lie..it just snowballs..

    Your denials are baseless and don’t even make sense anymore..

    You can’t handle reality that is why you only link zerohedge..Because you are an extremist peddling an agenda..

  50. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 15th Dec 2018 11:34 am 

    Davy

    There won’t be any game changers because a lithium ion battery has 1/100 the energy density of fossil fuels..A tesla model 3 battery weights 1200 lbs and is equal to five gallons of gasoline..

    See davy next do some research before asserting something in absolute terms..and then you wont make such an ass of yourself..

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