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Kunstler: Impure Thoughts
What if the Corona virus turns out to be a genuine pandemic with legs, not some punk-ass, flash-in-the-pan bug like SARS… and infects hundreds of millions around the world…? And what if it happens to go logarithmic in the USA, as in China now…? And what if takes a few months, or half a year, to do that…? And what if Americans will not get on airplanes when that happens…? Or gather together in large numbers…? Or if government imposes quarantines …? Will the parties hold their nominating conventions? Might the November election have to be postponed?
Just sayin’… since nobody else seems to be talking about it. A few months ago, nobody was thinking about a disease that would virtually lock-down China’s economy, either… and now here we are. Speaking of which, that lock-down of China’s economy is already generating serious damage to global GDP, after only a few weeks. But nothing shows our detachment from reality like the recent surge in financial market indexes while the Chinese economy was busy shutting down. In particular, one must wonder: What supports the global daisy-chain of debt obligations while all this is going on?
After all, companies doing business need a revenue stream to service their revolving debts. They have to make stuff, and move stuff, and get paid for it. What happens when there is no revenue stream? The workings of this hyper-complex financial system depend utterly on the velocity of these revenue streams. They can’t just… stop! Everybody who follows these things understands that China’s banking system is 1) a hot mess of confabulated public and private lending relationships, 2) completely opaque as regards the true workings of its operations, and 3) shot through with fraud, swindling, and Ponzis. Did China’s ruling party just put its banking system in an induced coma while Corona virus plays out? How can that possibly not affect the rest of global finance, which is plenty janky, too?
The USA gets everything from car parts to pharmaceuticals from China. How long will it take for the manufacturing lock-down to show up in American daily life? What if it continues for some months going forward? You can easily draw your own conclusions.
Here’s another interesting angle on that: Corona virus might give President Donald Trump an easy out from being the bag-holder for a stock market crash and banking train wreck. The signal weakness of Mr. Trump’s term-in-office was his taking ownership of a magical mystery stock market that climbs ever-higher day after day, defying all known rules of physics as applied to money. This longest “expansion” in US history (if that’s what it was, and I’m not so sure about it) seems to have hit a speed bump last September when something broke in the short-term “re-po” lending markets, at which time (and ever since), Jay Powell’s Federal Reserve began jamming hundreds of billions of dollars into them to smash down zooming interest rates and prevent a heart attack in the system. That creation of “liquidity” — money from thin air — appears to have stabilized the situation. But then, it is a peculiar feature of our times that a lot of things have an appearance that doesn’t sync with reality.
In short, if Corona virus and its side-effects do substantially knock down the stock markets, Mr. Trump gets off scot-free on the one thing that has been really propping him up. Not only can he blame a looming market calamity on this black swan pandemic, he can then turn around and play the Franklin Roosevelt role in attempting to rescue the nation from a depression. And then, if the election has to be postponed, we will see a for-sure discontinuity in US political history, consequences as yet unknown.
Meanwhile, schemes continue apace to overthrow Mr. Trump by-hook-or-by-crook before the election, with Sedition Release 4.0 just breaking in the Roger Stone sentencing affair and four prosecutors (three of them Mueller alumni, imagine that!) staging a phony-baloney resignation huff to stir up useful idiots like Rep. Eric Swalwell on the House Intel Committee for the next go at impeachment. Understand, this wicked business is just another ploy engineered by the same combined Deep State / Lawfare scoundrels that ran RussiaGate, MuellerGate, and UkraineGate, and the real purpose of it is to stave off efforts to prosecute a pretty broad network of those same former and current officials in the FBI, DOJ, CIA, State Department, Pentagon, Obama White House, and the Clinton Foundation for seditious conspiracy and, yes, possibly even treason. Personally, I believe that the Attorney General is honestly trying to smoke out the truth in this morass of nefarious intrigues, and that neither attempts to block him by the perps and their allies, nor a visitation of Corona virus across the land, will thwart him.
173 Comments on "Kunstler: Impure Thoughts"
Duncan Idaho on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 10:03 am
Personally, I believe that the Attorney General is honestly trying to smoke out the truth in this morass of nefarious intrigues, and that neither attempts to block him by the perps and their allies, nor a visitation of Corona virus across the land, will thwart him.
LOL!
JuanP on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 10:09 am
Trump 2020! Trump Jr. 2024!
The Chinese are just fine. They are beating the Americans on patents which means they are a handful of years away from beating us in technology. But, guys, don’t be sad; we’ve got Boeing!
JuanP on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 10:10 am
This will make Duncan very happy:
Bloomberg Considers Hillary For Running Mate
In another classic Drudge Report scoop that is bound to dominate the Democratic Primary news cycle from now until South Carolina and Nevada, the conservative-leaning aggregator reports that Mike Bloomberg is considering Hillary Clinton as a potential running
JuanP on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 10:11 am
I wish I could move to China but they don’t take high school dropout who do nothing more than weed gardens
JuanP on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 10:14 am
Oops, I forgot a link on the patent thingy. I don’t have an education so I often talk out the ass
Duncan Idaho on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 10:18 am
“burn the Picassos to heat the house for an hour”
Trump ‘turns back the clock’ by luring drilling companies to pristine lands
“The Trump administration has offered oil companies a chunk of the American west and the Gulf of Mexico that’s four times the size of California – an expansive drilling plan that threatens to entrench the industry at the expense of other outdoor jobs, while locking in enough emissions to undermine global climate policy.”
Duncan Idaho on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 10:20 am
Bloomberg Considers Hillary For Running Mate
yep, I’m smiling
JuanP on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 10:33 am
China begins to restore business.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1179648.shtml
Trump 2020! Jr. 2024!
JuanP on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 10:41 am
Oops, sorry, how uneducated of me. My above link is naked. I am not A citizen so I can’t vote. I crossed the Rio Grande in a dingy.
JuanP on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 11:00 am
I flew in First Class, drinking French Champagne all the way (my own bottles). I was drowning in it by the time I hit Miami. I didn’t become a US citizen because I saw absolutely no benefit or profit in it for me. On the other hand, the US government would have benefited by taxing my income abroad. It didn’t seem like a fair deal. You wouldn’t understand this, Exceptionalist, but the vast majority of humanity has absolutely no interest in becoming Americans. I am not interested in voting, either. I have never voted in my life; I consider it a waste of time and energy.
Abraham van Helsing on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 11:09 am
“What it’s like to get coronavirus: Student from Wuhan reveals his three-week ordeal including 102F fever, pains ‘in every part of my body’ and a cough so bad ‘I thought I would die'”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8004615/Student-Wuhan-reveals-like-coronavirus.html
For “metric people”, 102F = 39C
Abraham van Helsing on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 11:12 am
Exactly my kinda guy:
“Macron sets out 10-year vision for EU with call for more integration
French president says EU must have effective defence policy, larger budget and integrated capital markets”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/15/emmanuel-macron-sets-out-10-year-vision-for-eu-with-call-for-more-integration
Duncan Idaho on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 11:12 am
Trump’s 29th Trip To Mar-a-Lago Brings Golf Tab To 334 Years Of Presidential Salary
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-golf-mar-a-lago-taxpayers_n_5e4712b9c5b64d860fcab86c
We must realize, this chump could not make profit from a casino
Cloggie on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 11:14 am
Go home juanPee where you belong. You don’t deserve to be American
Duncan Idaho on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 11:22 am
Trump Tweets Another Lie About One of His Favorite Enemies
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/02/trump-tweet-andrew-mccabe/
Just a suggestion– have a crony follow the Fat Boy around, and if he opens his mouth, stuff it with a BigMac– if his mouth is open, he is lying.
Might cut down on the Fat Boys problems.
Davy to juanPee on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 11:25 am
“Exceptionalist, but the vast majority of humanity has absolutely no interest in becoming Americans.”
Like I care lunatic. I just love making the point you are the type of piece of shit that needs to be rooted out and disposed of. I am not a freak about nationalities like you. I just want to talk green prepping but since you are here being a troll I will see that your nose gets rubbed in it. I am going to disgrace you any opportunity I get and I enjoy it. You represent the worst of humanity and lol, by your own admission.
JuanP on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 11:28 am
“Trump’s 29th Trip To Mar-a-Lago Brings Golf Tab To 334 Years Of Presidential salary”
Lol, Duncan, huff post is a shit lib fake news network like most of your own Trump derangement
Davy on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 11:38 am
Y’all think Trump derangements Bad?
I got juanpee derangement. And I don’t even no who juanpee is. Hows that for derangedment?
Richard Guenette on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 11:44 am
Davy, I don’t know who you are and I don’t care. Unlike you, I don’t spend my life on here 24/7/365 acting like a shit disturber.
FuelShortageComing on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 12:01 pm
Western nations like Canada, UK, Australia, globalist and so on, thought they could save the debt pyramid by bring in more immigrants.
Western nations loves the China man because he is rich. So they see the China man as a way to save dying Western nations like Canada, UK. The globalist thought that immigration was the best solution to every problems the West have like low Whites birth rate, exponential out of control debt.
Guess what, their ultimate solution (mass migration) has backfire and it will now destroy Western Nation and the elites will probably be killed include his whole family in during the collapse .
Sweet justice and irony it is for me . I am laughing so hard that I pissed all over myself. I have to go now, I need to clean my underwear and pants they are full of piss.
Richard Guunette on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 12:35 pm
“Davy, I don’t know who you are and I don’t care. Unlike you, I don’t spend my life on here 24/7/365 acting like a shit disturber.”
juanPee, we know who you are and all your trolling ID theft and multiple mindless socks. You are here constantly. Unlike you, Davy can multi-task. He has a life and you don’t. Davy is here more than he would like but it is OK because his is kicking your ass, juanPee. You hate it but the 3 years of trolling as backfired on you.
Richard Guunette on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 12:40 pm
“Y’all think Trump derangements Bad? I got juanpee derangement. And I don’t even no who juanpee is. Hows that for derangedment?”
listen to juanPee whine. I guess his over 3 years of Davy derangement is backfiring. He is being beaten at his own game. I am so glad you are whining juanPee. Expect more until you are gone or until the owners make it so you can’t do all your bullshit low IQ behavior.
asg70 on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 12:48 pm
Enough with Kunstler!!!
He’s irrelevant to peak oil!
This site is a joke.
Rename it MAGA.COM.
JuanP on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 1:05 pm
“Enough with Kunstler!!!”
Please. When I read that it means somebody is lying to themselves
More Lunatic Davy ID Fraud on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 1:41 pm
Richard Guunette on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 12:35 pm
Richard Guunette on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 12:40 pm
asg70 on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 12:48 pm
JuanP on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 1:05 pm
Fact checker on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 1:44 pm
“More Lunatic Davy ID Fraud”
That is not a valid handle, juanPee
JuanP on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 4:04 pm
“Y’all think Trump derangements Bad?
I got juanpee derangement. And I don’t even no who juanpee is. Hows that for derangedment?”
ROFLMFAO! I couldn’t have said it better myself, Exceptionalist! Thanks for the best laugh of the day!
makati1 on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 4:14 pm
asg70, if the PO site is a joke, why are YOU here? Why waste your time reading jokes? Maybe you are the joke? Or a loser? Just askin’.
BTW: If peak oil is not about $$$$/capitalism/Repubs, what is it about?
Outcast_Searcher on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 4:36 pm
What if Kunstler made a CAREER out of predicting the worst possible outcome, and turned out to be constantly wrong?
Kind of like he was re his Y2K babbling absolute nonsense? Well, he gets lots of money from subscribers and selling goodies like “Y2K buckets”. But his followers just get ripped off.
Good work if you can get it, I suppose.
Too bad so many doom mongers never learn.
makati1 on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 5:04 pm
Outcast, if you think doom is not upon us, you are in deep denial of reality. No one can open your eyes but you. The pain will be worse for those who do not prepare.
The US is disintegrating as we type. Has been for decades, but it is getting too bad to be covered up by bullshit and propaganda. Keep your head up your ass. At least it will be safe…for now.
Davy on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 5:09 pm
So true makato. So true.
JuanP on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 7:31 pm
Mak, look around you and tell us where the virus is? Who’s economies are shuttered? Right…Asia
bochen777 on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 8:22 pm
Many thought at first that this was just to slow China down a few years, but in actually the CIA developed COVID-19 to end all of China, both the Chinese leaders/government and the Chinese people… This infection was engineered to reinfect with even more deadly rate rather than gain immunity to those who recovered. It hides in plain site for up to 24 days with no symptoms and false negative testings , it only targets Chinese DNA, and it was designed to permanently end not only the Chinese government or the Chinese nation but rather than entire Chinese civilization and Chinese race!
https://archive.is/wip/Hv6Hm
https://cryptome.org/2020/02/CIA-biovirus-2019.pdf
“This is not a time for pessimism; this is a time for optimism.” — Trump at Davos Jan 2020
“The West is Winning!” — Pompeo Feb 2020
“The Coronavirus is good for America, will bring US jobs back” — Wilber Ross US Secretary
“Takedown of Xi” — Steve Bannon
JuanP on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 8:40 pm
“bochen777”
somebody is drinking the spiked Kool Aid! LOL
Anonymouse on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 8:41 pm
“bochen777”
Another obviously deranged individual
bochen777 on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 8:41 pm
JuanP are you Davy == ShortOnOil?
makati1 on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 8:43 pm
Davy, Asia, is 48 countries. Want to prove your lack of education again? still only 3 cases in the Ps and one death. There are at least 15 cases in the US and growing. They are going to start testing all US flu victims for the new virus. I bet the coronavirus numbers in the US jump when they do. We shall see. Meanwhile, deaths in the US from the regular flu, this year, passed 12,000 weeks ago. Worrying about the wrong things? Its called brainwashing by the USMSM.
bochen777 on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 8:45 pm
makati1 so you really thing in the greatest geopolitical war for hegemony of the west vs east that the CIA wouldn’t or didn’t do COVID19? This was the biggest move on the board after the failed Trade and Tech war. If the CIA DIDN”T do this virus then they AREN”T earning their keep. Do you really think if America gonna risk biowar that they won’t go for the kill? THis is the end of CHina
JuanP on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 9:23 pm
“JuanP are you Davy == ShortOnOil?”
Yeap. I’se Davy == ShortOnBrains.
Davy on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 9:28 pm
“Meanwhile, deaths in the US from the regular flu, this year, passed 12,000 weeks ago. Worrying about the wrong things? Its called brainwashing by the USMSM”
So true makato. So true. Mostly I’m rea l stupid tho.
I can’t help myself.
makati1 on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 9:31 pm
Davy, I presume the CIA was the releaser. So? Does that mean a blow-back on the US is not possible, even likely? Think again. It is already beginning. The US is a losing/dying country. It will try everything to keep power, but lose in the end. It cannot do anything successfully anymore.
So, a few hundred, even a few thousand, deaths in China is going to kill China’s rise to the top? LMAO! You cannot be serious!
“Between eight million and nine million people die in China every year.” Google
Maybe you should take a look at what China’s shutdown is doing to the Western economies today and what it will mean in the future for Western survival?
Did you know that >80% of the drugs used in the US come from China? And their drug companies are closed. Where will Amerika get its antibiotics, diabetic meds, heart meds, etc.?
Do you know that most electronic components/parts come from China? Ask Apple about China’s importance.
Do you see the collapse of the US economy if it lasts much longer? I do. And, it is just what the One Worlder’s want. The Great Leveling. Buckle up! The road ahead in Amerika is going to get much more dangerous!
Get educated and come back with a real comment, not bullshit.
bochen777 on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 10:08 pm
makati1, but you need to look at the bigger picture, sure it will harm US and have some blowback but the CIA has calculated it is acceptable levels because it still NET benefits the US far more to have a collapsed and weakened China, this gives US the change to compel allies to re-route their supply chains to avoid China, in order to isolate China. Sure it will have some pains for America and the world, but that is something the US has strategically calculated that it is willing to take the short term hit for the long term restoration of hegemony. Don’t forget the big net picture!
bochen777 on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 10:13 pm
Even broken clock is right twice a day, Kunstler may have called it correctly this time I’m afraid
Mick on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 11:26 pm
I think you might be on to something bochen777 all you said sounds very plausible and will work out perfect timing for the orange orangutans 2020 election postponement
Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 16th Feb 2020 12:56 am
“makati1 so you really thing in the greatest geopolitical war for hegemony of the west vs east that the CIA wouldn’t or didn’t do COVID19? This was the biggest move on the board after the failed Trade and Tech war. If the CIA DIDN”T do this virus then they AREN”T earning their keep.. Do you really think if America gonna risk biowar that they won’t go for the kill? THis is the end of CHina”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ugly_American_(pejorative)
It is better that this kind of people disappears from the face of this earth. The sort of people that invents nukes and uses it. The sort of people that sets countries up for war and afterwards sets up a “war-crimes tribunal” and invents a holohoax. The sort of people that telecrashes planes into buildings, kill thousands, blame camel jockies to create the pretext to invade the Middle-East in an attempt to capture the planets oil resources. I have little doubt that this was indeed a CIA black opp to “stop China”. And they expect no blow-back.lol
America rose out of the blue like a meteor in the 2nd half of the 19th century, for one reason only: OIL.
In the first half of the 21st century it will disappear as fast as it rose, in a parabolic trajectory, like a piece of firework, sizzling out.
The 20th century in between was the American Century.
https://www.amazon.com/Jewish-Century-Yuri-Slezkine/dp/0691119953/ref=sr_1_2
How did Voltaire, the great thinker of the Enlightenment put it again?
In his ”Letter of Memmius to Cicero” (1771), Voltaire, in the pose of an ancient Roman reporting on the Jews, wrote: ”They are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race.’‘
https://www.nytimes.com/1990/09/30/books/l-voltaire-and-the-jews-590990.html
That “some day” could be now if we don’t get rid of them, as well as their little water carriers like empire dave, joe esquire and siss, who can’t stop being fascinated by that sinister power amalgam called Anglo-Zionism.
Expect a furious reaction from the Chinese once this is all over, perhaps by the end of 2020 or beyond.
bochen777 on Sun, 16th Feb 2020 1:17 am
“Abraham van Helsing”: the Chinese civilization has lasted 5000 years… Chinese are builders and traders, never good at battle or conquering… so it may be time for them to bring out the DF-41, even the odds, “equalize” the entire world, and take their chances starting back from zero once the whole world is back to the stone age, before it is too late, whilst they can still have the option of using their Dengfeng-41. The Pentagon is already working on defences against hypersonic missiles, this means there is only a short window of oppurtunity before China loses “MAD” capabilities. China should archive their genetic code and civilization culture in a sort of “seed vault” underground and exercise the ultimate “reset” option… This COVID-19 is already mutating, it will be back year after year, targeting only Chinese/Asian DNA, in a couple centuries or generations will wipe all out leaving just the white race. This was designed to be a race ender, not merely to knock China off its development path for a year or two. The only way to win against such maddness is to execute the ultimate option of last resort and hit the ultimate reset button and wait it out another 5000 years.
Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 16th Feb 2020 4:05 am
bochen777 and his “body fluids” is dr. Strangelove. Thinks he can control everything, where in reality he is siting on a ticking diversity time bomb that can explode any minute (CW2), for instance because China will no longer deliver all the free goodies at the US doorstep and all the darkies go wild.
“Chinese are builders and traders, never good at battle or conquering”
That is what the Chinese have in common with Americans:
WaPo May 1985: “Their Wehrmacht Was Better Than Our Army”
“The Pentagon is already working on defences against hypersonic missiles”
Everybody is. How about you concentrating on designing a plane that doesn’t crash out the sky, you creep?
Davy on Sun, 16th Feb 2020 5:21 am
Always the anti-American conspiracy theories creep in to events like this because they are so tasty. This forum is a rabid extremist anti-American place. I am the only one with any objectivity left. Boch is just another one of those extremist looking for a tasty theory. It is more obvious this was a mistake by the Chinese who are notorious for industrial sloppiness. They build good stuff too but their push for growth makes them sloppy. Yea, I would not put it past a rough CIA element but probably not because this type of attack has genetic footprint easy for the Chinese to find out. The blowback is huge for the US with the infection but also the hit to the economy for a pathogen. The dangers of a conflict with the Chinese huge if they determined it was an American bio weapon. It is not a good way to go after an adversary. We can expect this virus to settle into he US population probably by next fall but could be much sooner. The US is less urbanized and more suburban so this will slow the spread. The below is just speculation but it does point to an Asian weakness for this virus.
“Hubei Doctors Warn Of Even-Deadlier Coronavirus Reinfection Causing Sudden Heart Attacks”
https://tinyurl.com/vcsbw8k zero hedge
“With SARS (sudden acute respiratory syndrome), another coronavirus, researchers discovered that one of the ways the disease attaches itself is through an enzyme known as ACE2, a ‘functional receptor’ produced in several organs (oral and nasal mucosa, nasopharynx, lung, stomach, small intestine, colon, skin, lymph nodes, thymus, bone marrow, spleen, liver, kidney, and brain). ACE2 is also “abundantly present in humans in the epithelia of the lung and small intestine, which might provide possible routes of entry for the SARS-CoV,” while it was also observed “in arterial and venous endothelial cells and arterial smooth muscle cells” – which would include the heart.This has led some to speculate that Asians, who have higher concentrations of ACE2 (per the 1000 genome project) may be affected to a greater degree than those of European ancestry, who produce the least of it – and have largely been the asymptomatic ‘super spreaders’ such as Diamond Princess coronavirus victim Rebecca Frasure.”
Davy on Sun, 16th Feb 2020 5:30 am
“bochen777 said JuanP are you Davy == ShortOnOil?”
Blochen much of my comments are ID theft by JuanP. He has been trolling me now for 3 years. If you are new you just need to look for mindless comments with obviously bad spelling and perverted subject material and that is JuanP. Most of the stupid socks are JuanP too. I go to bed early so generally anything Davy after 8:00PM is JuanP. The dumbass has ruined the forum for respectable people. I troll him back but wish this site would institute some basics of password protected handles. Trolling is a waste of time except in my case where it is self-defense. I have made it clear to juanPee if he ignores me I will ignore him. That is the best it can get between us. Maybe since you are on the other private side of this forum you can bring that up in a topic over there. I believe the site owners would get much more traffic with some basics of protection. Refer to this:
“Cloudflare is one of the last bastions of free speech. It is very sad that the admin of this site doesn’t seem to want to take the trouble to log in to his server dashboard and active a few presets, enforcing posters to post under a unique username/password combination. That doesn’t eliminate garbage under fake identities, but at least it stops identity theft and that would make a hell of a difference. If possible, you could also enforce that one IP-address can only post under a single identity. Please admin, invest an hour of your time to get this right.”
This is from the troll JuanP last night:
Davy said “Meanwhile, deaths in the US from the regular flu,…
JuanP said “JuanP are you Davy == ShortOnOil?” Yeap. I’se Dav…
Davy said Oops, sorry y’all. I spelt Neb rong.
Davy said Y’all listan too deb. Shes obv. a real smart felle…
More Davy sock puppetry and lunacy said Nobe (Davy) on Sat, 15th Feb 2020 8:38 pm
bochen777 on Sun, 16th Feb 2020 5:39 am
I’ve read the archives Davy.
You started it.