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Kunstler: Imaginary Monsters and the Uses of Chaos
The Kavanaugh hearing underscored another eerie condition in contemporary USA life that offers clues about the combined social, economic, and political collapse that I call the long emergency: the destruction of all remaining categorical boundaries for understanding behavior: truth and untruth, innocent and guilty, childhood and adulthood, public and private. The destination of all this confusion is a society that can’t process any quarrel coherently, leaving everyone unsatisfied and adrift, and no actual problems resolved.
One element of the story is clear, though. The Democratic party, in the absence of real monsters to slay, has become the party devoted to sowing chaos, mainly by inventing new, imaginary monsters using the machinery of politics, the way the Catholic Church manufactured monsters of heresy during the Spanish Inquisition in its attempt to regulate “belief.”
“I believe her” is the new totalitarian rallying cry, conveniently disposing of any obligation to establish the facts of any ambiguous matter. It was stealthily inserted in our national life during the Obama years, when Title IX “guidelines” originally written to correct imbalances in college sports funding for men and women were extended to adjudicate sexual encounters on campus. The result was the setting up of officially sanctioned kangaroo courts where due process was thrown out the window — by people who have should have known better: college presidents, deans, and faculty. That experiment produced not a few spectacular injustices, such as the Duke Lacrosse team fake rape fiasco, the University of Virginia fake rape fraternity incident (provoked by a mis-reported story in Rolling Stone Magazine), and the Columbia University “Mattress Girl” saga — all cases eventuating in punishing lawsuits against the institutions that allowed them to spin out of control.
The spirit of the kangaroo court has since graduated into business and politics where it has proven especially useful for settling scores and advancing careers and agendas dishonestly. Coercion has replaced persuasion. Coercion is at the heart of totalitarian politics. Do what you’re told, or else. Believe what we say, or else. (Or else lose your reputation, your livelihood, your friends….) This plays neatly into the dynamics of human mob psychology. When the totalitarians set up for business, few individuals dare to depart from the party line. It’s the perfect medium for cultivating mendacious ideologies.
And so many Americans may be wondering these days whether the ideas and principles that have held this country together, even through a disastrous civil war, can endure through a long emergency of exogenous events so overwhelming that we dare not even debate them publicly. These are climate change, the crack-up of a debt-based money system, the winding–down of techno-industrial economy, and the ecological destruction of the only planet that human beings call home.
Of course, the lives of societies, like everything else in a living universe, unfold emergently. Which is to say that circumstances are in the driver’s seat taking us where they will whether we like it or not. What humans can do is decide how to ride these events. For the moment, America has opted for a grand circus of sexual hysteria. It’s really an easy, lazy choice because sex is full of easily manipulated tensions and ambiguities prone to melodramatic misrepresentation.
Next on tap for this beleaguered nation will be a constitutional crisis and a financial crisis. It’s difficult to predict the order of their unfolding, except to say that these will open up a maelstrom of losses which will then be hard to either adjudicate or correct, once our system of law is compromised. As this occurs, all the raging hysteria over sex will be overshadowed by real existential issues as the people lose their homes, incomes, and futures and desperately search for a way out of more chaos than they bargained for.
16 Comments on "Kunstler: Imaginary Monsters and the Uses of Chaos"
twocats on Tue, 2nd Oct 2018 7:47 pm
kunstler has fallen completely off the deep end. the only reasonable exoneration for the whack-a-doodle connections he’s making these days is if he’s getting paid by the Mercers or Kochs. otherwise – he’s just a broken idiot – one step below alex jones – who is at least entertaining.
Roger on Tue, 2nd Oct 2018 8:04 pm
” Coercion has replaced persuasion. Coercion is at the heart of totalitarian politics. Do what you’re told, or else. Believe what we say, or else. (Or else lose your reputation, your livelihood, your friends….) This plays neatly into the dynamics of human mob psychology. When the totalitarians set up for business, few individuals dare to depart from the party line.”
Yep. The prior post proves the point.
Sissyfuss on Tue, 2nd Oct 2018 8:25 pm
Divide and conquer. You don’t suppose Trump really is a stable genius? Nah, couldn’t be.
makati1 on Tue, 2nd Oct 2018 8:40 pm
“Next on tap for this beleaguered nation will be a constitutional crisis and a financial crisis. It’s difficult to predict the order of their unfolding, except to say that these will open up a maelstrom of losses which will then be hard to either adjudicate or correct, once our system of law is compromised. As this occurs, all the raging hysteria over sex will be overshadowed by real existential issues as the people lose their homes, incomes, and futures and desperately search for a way out of more chaos than they bargained for.”
Well said! Exactly what is in America’s future. The Great Leveling is gaining speed. Are you prepared?
Cloggie on Tue, 2nd Oct 2018 10:03 pm
Kunstler is right when he predicts that social, political and financial collapse are in the cards for the short term, not “peak oil” or “climate change”. The West/US empire is unravelling as we speak. Brexit could turn into something extremely nasty. Populists committing terrorist acts and grabing power. The inevitable Grand Finale of multicult: civil war and genocide is at hand, first of all in North-America, where demographics are near a tipping point. Kunstler sounds like Alex Jones because they both express sentiments that are real. I personally had that sense of rage beginning to develop as of 2001:
https://youtu.be/VHDX7T7xllo
Pim Fortuyn 2001: “it is five to midnight, not just in the Netherlands, but in the whole of Europe… let’s throw it all out and put everything on the table… there is a fifth column here that tries to destroy this country”.
May 6, 2002, Fortuyn, the last hope of “deplorable Dutch” has been murdered one hour ago:
https://youtu.be/kYV0hz4dquE
Reactions of a shocked Dutch public: “I do not recognize my own country anymore, in 20 years time this country has gone down the drain”.
At the end of the video, satanic Muslim trash is making fun about the hit. Even the leftist journalist interviewing his own pets feels compelled to contradict them angrily.
Between 1989-1991 the greatest shitpile in world history, the USSR, was finally dismantled, almost entitely bloodless.
In the coming years, CW2 + WW3 will do the same to Anglosphere/Five Eyes/West/US empire. But the coming dissolution of the second empire will be likely very bloody. You can abolish a useless leftist economic system with the stroke of a pen, have a very difficult decade and you’re good. But you can’t do the same with the satanic leftist concept of multicult.
#AnnieGetYourGun
Cloggie on Tue, 2nd Oct 2018 10:44 pm
AfD speaker in German parliament (English subs):
https://youtu.be/aqzXnUNMej4
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 2nd Oct 2018 11:10 pm
CLogg
You are arguing with yourself..again..And your sources of amateur youtube videos are laughable..You are so dumb its cartoonish..
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 2nd Oct 2018 11:11 pm
Amazon is raising its minimum wage to $15 following pressure from Bernie Sanders
https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-raises-minimum-wage-to-15-dollars-2018-10
Cloggie on Wed, 3rd Oct 2018 12:16 am
You are arguing with yourself..again..And your sources of amateur youtube videos are laughable..
Millimob, you are not responding because you have nothing to say.
Cloggie on Wed, 3rd Oct 2018 12:55 am
178 days and no plan:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/brexit-debatte-auf-tory-parteitag-noch-178-tage-null-plan-a-1231290.html
British foreign minister Hunt wants to “revive spirit of Dunkirk”.
It is characteristic for the British that they love to portray what was in reality a desperate flight into something heroic.lol What really happened in 1940 was that the British abandoned their French allies without informing them and ran for the beaches, after they got their asses kicked in a war they and the French had declared against Germany.
The truth is that there never was a miracle of Dunkirk. Hitler didn’t kill the retreating hundreds thousands of British troops because he didn’t want to break too much porcelain. He had defeated the French and British in 6 weeks time after the French and British had prepared for an assault against the German Ruhr-area via Belgium and Holland and Hitler knew he no longer could escape a full confrontation, after initial skirmishes in Norway, also initiated by British and French. When the British and French were defeated, Hitler offered a peace deal: everybody retreating and that’s it. But Churchill knew he could count on his closet American and Soviet allies to enter the war at a convenient moment and refused.
One of the pleasant side effects of a hard Brexit will be that we can finally unload the full weight of historic revisionism onto our Anglo friends.
Even the routinely lying leftist der Spiegel, that is pro-empire, anti-Russian, pro-British and anti-Brexit, has to smirk about this insane historic comparison.
Der Spiegel reports about how the Conservatives are destroying themselves in infighting over the proper course. All the time the British pretend that they are held prison in the “USSR”, where in reality they were rebuffed two times (by de Gaulle) before they were (unfortunately) let in and now they only have to walk away and nobody is going to bomb them or send troops. But that doesn’t mean they British will get what they want.
Gradually I am getting the feeling that the EU is going to play this very hard and that they do not want to avoid a hard Brexit at all cost and that they are going to set an example with Britain about what happens when you leave. The EU can afford to play on time and I wouldn’t be surprised if they already have had secret talks with Moscow and Beijing about how the world should look like after the end of the Anglo-Zionist era.
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2018/03/18/ww3-to-terminate-the-us-empire-aka-the-west/
Theedrich on Wed, 3rd Oct 2018 4:04 am
After Ill-Church engineered the Lusitania event, he knew he could wag the U.S. dog into saving his corrupt island from its historical enemy. So he collaborated with FDR to seduce Japan into foolishly attacking Pearl Harbor to get the American bumpkins into WW II through the back door. That was at a time before hypersonic missiles and modern computers. Today it attempts to control the U.S. by using former secret agents like Christopher Steele to corrupt the American electoral process.
But that attempt is failing, as is the entire refugee-infected British economy. As the U.S. empire declines, the anti-White UK is sinking even faster. The sooner the Island of Hypocrisy is scissored from Europe, the faster the union of Russia with Europe can emerge. Maybe the day will even come when the Judenkrankheit and Stockholm Syndrome now plaguing Western Europe have been cured. The prerequisite for that, of course, is the decontamination of Europe from the genosuicidal Anglospheric disease.
Davy on Wed, 3rd Oct 2018 4:10 am
I am a firm believer in liberal ideas on climate, environment, and social justice. Liberal ideas found in the social sciences and the hard sciences combining to reach enlightened decisions on government. This liberal force that took religion out of politics instead pursing reason to accommodate all faiths. I am now disgusted with the modern American liberal who has trashed all these ideas for a fascist power lust that now believes the end justifies the means. Let’s trash our sacred beliefs to win is their moto because winning is everything just like Robespierre:
“The attribute of popular government in a revolution is at one and the same time virtue and terror. Terror without virtue is fatal; virtue without terror is impotent. The terror is nothing but justice, prompt, severe, inflexible; it is thus an emanation of virtue.”
Maximilien Robespierre https://tinyurl.com/ycpmfppv
This nastiness is here on this board that is full of extremist liberals that attack me because I dare to moderate their filthy message. If you are not extremist you are one of them.
I have always been disgusted with the conservative science deniers, phony social justice, and total lack of concern for the environment from conservatives. The conservatives I grew up around that once I became educated I saw right through their phony values that really just represent blind uneducated beliefs and an attempt to maintain privilege. Many conservatives are white and privileged and want to stay that way. Conservatives who could care less for what is good or bad for the system and the environment. Let’s trash the commons because that is how self-made men have always done it is their thinking
What disgusts me now is the gutting of the rule of law and the constitution by the extremist liberal left. The hypocrisy of not in my back yard and do as I say not as I do on immigration. The cultural homogenization found in the extremist liberal policies of victimization and the gutting of traditional values and roles. This whining sniffling policy of resentment and hate tops anything the right wing could dream up and this is probably because the extremist right wing is uneducated. The Clinton/Obama corruption of the highest office and the election process is the climax of this vortex of corruption. The corrupt fifth column of the FBI/CIA/NSA driven significantly now by the extremist liberal left sealing in the de facto power of a group above the rule of law as specified by the constitution. The wealthy, privileged, and connected liberal left in control of the media, tech giants, and academia/science spreading their corrupted message at the very heart of what should be above politics.
I am a moderate liberal total sick of modern liberals. We had hope once for American liberalism now that is gone too. What might come next? Maybe a new force of change rejecting both sides of the corruption of modern meaning will coalesce once a crisis is full blown or maybe just an implosion? It does not look pretty because at this point in history we need our wits together and they are not.
Davy on Wed, 3rd Oct 2018 4:26 am
“Blasey Ford’s Kavinaugh Testimony Unravels After Ex-Boyfriend Refutes Key Claims”
https://tinyurl.com/ybymxjzk
“Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA) fired off an intriguing letter to Christine Blasey Ford’s attorneys on Tuesday, requesting several pieces of evidence related to her testimony – including all materials from the polygraph test she took, after her ex-boyfriend of six years refuted statements she made under oath last week. Grassley writes: “The full details of Dr. Ford’s polygraph are particularly important because the Senate Judiciary Committee has received a sworn statement from a longtime boyfriend of Dr. Ford’s, stating that he personally witnessed Dr. Ford coaching a friend on polygraph examinations. When asked under oath in the hearing whether she’d ever given any tips or advice to someone who was planning on taking a polygraph, Dr. Ford replied, “Never.” This statement raises specific concerns about the reliability of her polygraph examination results.”
“Ford’s ex-boyfriend also claims that she never told him about any type of sexual assault in almost a decade of knowing her (of which they were romantically involved for six years). “During our time dating, Dr. Ford never brought up anything regarding her experience as a victim of sexual assault, harassment, or misconduct. Dr. Ford never mentioned Brett Kavanaugh,” the ex writes, adding “While visiting Ford in Hawaii, we traveled around the Hawaiian islands including one time on a propeller plane. Dr. Ford never indicated a fear of flying. Ford’s ex goes on to note “Dr. Ford never expressed a fear of closed quarters, tight spaces, or places with only one exit,” further refuting her testimony. “She ended up living in a very small 500 sq. ft. house with one door.”
JuanP on Wed, 3rd Oct 2018 10:28 am
“Coercion has replaced persuasion. Coercion is at the heart of totalitarian politics. Do what you’re told, or else. Believe what we say, or else.”
No, it hasn’t. What has changed is the need to keep appearances. Coercion and persuasion have always gone hand in hand.
I always find interesting Americans’ struggle with what the USA is and has always been, an agressive,murderous, criminal institution. I can completely relate to that discovery of the truth process because it is very similar to what I underwent with my family, church, and country. It is not easy to find out the truth when you have been systematically lied to your whole life. The pain of that personal growth is very hard to bear.
The USA has an ugly past, present, and, very particularly, future. There is nothing anyone of us can do about it other than prepare for the future. So, I choose to ignore as much of it as I can while I make my preparations, which include plans to leave the USA permanently at some point in time. What is the point in learning more? I already know too much for my own good, so, I try to spend my time gardening and teaching others how to do it. I am also now proud owner of a small part of an herbalist company that makes products with plants grown organically in the area. I am not saving the world, just entertaining myself.
boney joe on Fri, 5th Oct 2018 6:06 am
“the gutting of the rule of law and the constitution by the extremist liberal left.”
Evidence? None cited.
“The Clinton/Obama corruption of the highest office and the election process is the climax of this vortex of corruption.”
Evidence for this nonsensical fantasy? None cited.
” The corrupt fifth column of the FBI/CIA/NSA driven significantly now by the extremist liberal left sealing in the de facto power of a group above the rule of law as specified by the constitution.”
Evidence of a Fifth Column?
“The wealthy, privileged, and connected liberal left in control of the media, tech giants, and academia/science spreading their corrupted message at the very heart of what should be above politics.”
Really?
Of the 257 news/talk stations, 91 percent of the total weekday talk radio programming is conservative, and 9 percent is progressive.
Each weekday, 2,570 hours and 15 minutes of conservative talk are broadcast on these stations compared to 254 hours of progressive talk—10 times as much conservative talk as progressive talk.
A separate analysis of all of the news/talk stations in the top 10 radio markets reveals that 76 percent of the programming in these markets is conservative and 24 percent is progressive, although programming is more balanced in markets such as New York and Chicago.
As for TV, Sinclair Broadcast Group — a conservative, Trump-friendly television empire — closed a deal that allows it to reach nearly three-quarters of American households. Sinclair purchased Tribune Media Company and its 42 television stations for $3.9 billion — a merger made possible by the Trump administration relaxing regulations on broadcast ownership.
Then the right-wing One America News Network owned by the right-wing Herring Family Trust started broadcasting and now reaches 78% of all American households.
Last but not least, the “fair and balanced” network known as Fox Noise.
But according to DavyTurd, “the wealthy, privileged, and connected liberal left control the media, spreading their corrupted message is at the very heart of what should be above politics”, excluding radio and television of course.
“I am a moderate liberal ”
And I am the walrus. Been hittin’ the CoCoa Puffs too hard.
Davy on Fri, 5th Oct 2018 6:26 am
Lol, here is the substance of sloppy joes comment:
“Evidence? None cited.
Evidence for this nonsensical fantasy? None cited.
Evidence of a Fifth Column?
Really?”
When someone has no argument they do the above
“Of the 257 news/talk stations, 91 percent of the total weekday talk radio programming is conservative, and 9 percent is progressive. Each weekday, 2,570 hours and 15 minutes of conservative talk are broadcast on these stations compared to 254 hours of progressive talk—10 times as much conservative talk as progressive talk. A separate analysis of all of the news/talk stations in the top 10 radio markets reveals that 76 percent of the programming in these markets is conservative and 24 percent is progressive, although programming is more balanced in markets such as New York and Chicago. As for TV, Sinclair Broadcast Group — a conservative, Trump-friendly television empire — closed a deal that allows it to reach nearly three-quarters of American households. Sinclair purchased Tribune Media Company and its 42 television stations for $3.9 billion — a merger made possible by the Trump administration relaxing regulations on broadcast ownership. Then the right-wing One America News Network owned by the right-wing Herring Family Trust started broadcasting and now reaches 78% of all American households.”
Where is your reference for all those unsupported facts sloppy joe?
“But according to DavyTurd, “the wealthy, privileged, and connected liberal left control the media, spreading their corrupted message is at the very heart of what should be above politics”, excluding radio and television of course.”
Amazon, Google, Twitter, and the MSM fake news are all significantly controlled by the extremist liberal left. Can you deny that sloppy joe?