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Kunstler: Hope and Change Are At Hand

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It seems unfair that the earnest polymath Elon Musk should go broke in the electric car business while Kylie Jenner becomes a billionaire at age 20 hawking lip gloss on Snapchat, but that’s how the American Dream rolls these late days of empire. Perhaps the lesson here, for all you MBA wannabes, is that Mr. Musk could switch his production facilities from cars to lip gloss. Of course, to successfully market his new line of cosmetics on social media, Elon might have to consider sexual “reassignment” surgery — unless he could persuade American men via Facebook and Twitter, that lip enhancement boosts male self-esteem almost as much as the purchase of a Ford F-450 pickup truck at a laughable fraction of the cost.

Which raises an interesting question: if President Donald Trump’s most winning personal feature is that magnificent golden hair-do, why doesn’t he (or his family) get out of the pain-in-the-ass hotel business, with all its construction and maintenance issues and dirty sheets, and just put out shampoo? He is obviously adept at Twitter marketing and surely scores high in global brand recognition.

Which raises any number of other major questions about the proper functioning of the US economy. For instance, millions of Americans, especially of Kylie J’s gen, are wasting their lives working dead-end minimum wage jobs manning (personing?) the nation’s fry-o-lator stations when they could start billion dollar cosmetic companies. After all, if you really want to be successful in this land of success stories, don’t you have to first look and feel successful? Perhaps that’s all you really need… forget all those pain-in-the-ass products with their vexing assembly-line, packing, and shipping problems. Just get America feeling great about itself, starting with the most important person in the room: YOU!

Only two things stand in the way: tattoos and blubber. At the rate our fellow citizens are adorning themselves with inky autobiographies, ever fewer will want to cover up their personal messaging with icky makeup. And the remorseless increase in body size implies a concomitant increase in available epidermal sites for said personal messaging — so maybe the tattoo industry ought to be the basis of the next American economy, not electric cars and journeys to Mars, or even lip gloss. Just think of all those empty brick-and-mortar retail spaces out there begging to become Ink Spots! I may be wrong about this, but I haven’t heard of any tattoo billionaires…yet. Who will dare to be first? (Yet another Kardashian?)

With oldest sibling Kim Kardashian-West considering a run for the White House in 2024 the nation can finally cast aside the bygone business model of a pain-in-the-ass manufacturing altogether and concentrate on the more important matters of personal grooming, branding, networking, and leveraging the unfulfilled wishes of the countless under-tattooed into an economy once again on-the-move! Imagine the effect that a President Kim K-W will have on the by-then ancient monster-of-the-east, Vladimir Putin, in their first summit meeting. We’ll have no more election trouble from those meddlesome Kremlin thugs. Maybe the pair will ride horses shirtless together in an amazing display of glasnost and international cooperation.

Don’t despair, readers, fellow Americans, and whoever else might be looking at this in the NSA back office. Hope and change are finally in the wind for real. Two hundred years of swinging pickaxes in the coal mines, sweating on the assembly line, and toiling on the loading dock are coming to an end. The singularity is almost at hand — and surprisingly not the one that Ray Kurzweil ordered. Who needs orgasmic polymorphic super-intelligence in all the parallel universes beyond the end of time when you can reach for brand supremacy here in this best of all possible worlds. Kylie J., you go girl!

Kunstler




220 Comments on "Kunstler: Hope and Change Are At Hand"

  1. Makati1 on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 7:53 pm 

    JHK has a pretty good picture of America in 2018. LOL

  2. Makati1 on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 8:06 pm 

    BTW: “A war between Iran and Israel (and its U.S.-led allies) would wreak havoc on the oil market. That’s because Iran holds a very powerful card…

    Iran could effectively shut down the Strait of Hormuz, the narrow channel connecting the Persian Gulf to global markets. It is the only sea route from the Persian Gulf to the open ocean.

    Tankers moving oil from Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, and the United Arab Emirates all have to pass through the strait. That translates into roughly 35% of the world’s oil traded by sea.”

    https://internationalman.com/articles/get-ready-for-the-third-%E2%80%9Coil-shock%E2%80%9D/

    Will Amerika be stupid enough to go to war with Iran? We shall see. Buckle up!

  3. Makati1 on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 8:41 pm 

    For Cloggie: “I’ve been writing for several years about the inevitability of Europe becoming Muslim, however, Europe’s leaders are only now beginning to grapple with the problem of Third World immigration, apparently oblivious to the fact that they cannot prevent the inevitable from happening….

    EU leaders may not want to remember that for centuries their lands were ruled by Muslims:…

    …the South-North immigration wave signals the futility of the Caucasian minority’s attempt to maintain its supremacy in a honey-colored world. Given that white people account for only 16% of the total population, no matter how many brown people it eliminates through war and starvation, and no matter how many children white women agree to have, they are fighting an uphill battle, as any demographer could show with hard figures.”

    https://journal-neo.org/2018/07/13/the-hopeless-problem-of-white-supremacy/

    Oh, and the Us will get its share … not to mention the Latino “honey colored” immigration north.

  4. JCSR on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 8:51 pm 

    Hey, Jim. here in the small cities of New England lots of those boarded up mom&pop stores are reopening and staying open.By not your typical average white person but by people whose mommas wear burkas.Is it not Trump and his followers afraid of so much business competiters instead of fake bombers?
    Most of their customers can’t afford a car to drive out to the big box store for a loaf of bread.Times are achanging. America’s great again?

  5. MASTERMIND on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 8:54 pm 

    Madkat

    According to estimates by the Pew Forum, the total number of Muslims in Europe (excluding Turkey) in 2010 was about 44 million (6% of the total population), including 19 million (3.8% of the population) in the European Union.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe

    Enough with your fake news scaremongering stupid ignorant people like poor clogg..

    Muslims only make up 6% of the population of Europe..OMG they are being overran..

  6. Makati1 on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 9:05 pm 

    MM 2010? That was eight years ago and long before the current migration began. Do you EVER think? It appears that you do not. Maybe you don’t have the ability? Probably.

    Or do you have some masochist meed to be put down for being stupid? That also appears to be the case. You do it regularly.

    As for Europe’s Muslim population…I doubt that anyone actually knows the numbers, but they are growing daily while the number of whites are shrinking. It is only a matter of time.

  7. MASTERMIND on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 9:24 pm 

    Madkat

    2010 is less than a decade ago? Over the last century the Muslim population has only reached 6%..And you think in 8 years the number has grown substantially? You are so fucking dumb..Even your math skills are horrible..No wonder you dropped out of college..I bet you would have flunked out anyways..You did the university a favor..

  8. Roger on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 9:41 pm 

    “Over the last century the Muslim population has only reached 6%..And you think in 8 years the number has grown substantially?”

    It’s not so much the Muslim influx…as the Godless nature of the “post-Christian Europe” … a vacuum will be filled. Deny the truth and you (or your children) will accept a lie. Half of Europe welcomes the invaders with open arms … where are the men?

  9. GetAVasectomyAndLetTheHumanRaceDieGracefrully on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 9:53 pm 

    The western economies has been build by white people using their comprehensions of the law of conservation of energy and other laws of physics. If their is no energy left their is no western world and so there is no white people. White people will go extinct with peak oil.

    The white race is taking the high road now and exiting this world by stopping reproduction of white kids. Life is only pain, misery without energy.

    This is a quote from a white women that explain what white are thinking. I put this there because as I white man I agree with everything she says.

    I will say that I am a white, woman, realist. There are two thoughts in this dialogue.

    1. Those of higher intelligence realize that having less children burdens the world’s economies less than…

    2. those who have plenty of children with abandon, who benefit from welfare provided them because they cannot support their own families.

    We cannot have both.

    We cannot be a higher intelligent race and overwhelm the world with more children to save ourselves from extinction. Otherwise, we are very much like the minorities spoken of with lower IQ’s.

    We of higher intelligence, if that be the case, are not willing to contribute to a world already suffering from overpopulation in countries incapable of supporting such population booms. See the circular logic? My children are not having children simply because the world is a terrible place for our children to grow up in, nor is it very safe. Russia, China, South Korea, Iran, Syria, Poland, Germany, Morocco, France (what a bat shit crazy president they have), the UK, Spain, Sudan, Somalia, Libya, Palestine, Pakistan, India… are today experiencing turmoil that may end up with any one country the match that light’s the powder house. In the US and all over the world religious zealots, gender zealots, transgender zealots, , all supremacy zealots, race zealots, conservatives, liberals and political zealots have all lost their minds and reasoning.

    If the white race melds into the pot of other races and there are no more truly white people left, no harm… no foul. We simply did not have the tendencies toward violence as all other races. It is as simple as that. But, with that being said, my great-grandchildren, never born, will never feel the amount of violence that is about to consume this planet… and God help all of those living during that time. Truly God help them. I cannot imagine what is going to happen in just a very short time when whites are minimally represented on this planet and the blacks must defend themselves from Arabic, Hispanic, and Asian people consuming Europe and the Untied States… God help the black man then. White people will simply bow out and leave the dance early…. do you want your grandchildren to fight an impossible war to win… I don’t.

    Comment taken from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZzP2Hp_B-Q&elc=1&lc=Ugz-mhryzRTTjWF0BkJ4AaABAg.8W8G4RZGudW8ie3o-bbL-p

    The black and arab have nothing to fear. White are committing self-extinction and very soon the world will belong the stronger one. As far as white people are concern black,arab, asian can fight against each other for this planet. White are checking out

    For relaxing purpose here is this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nYvmm0Ofmc

  10. MASTERMIND on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 10:01 pm 

    Roger

    The invaders? You are paranoid loon..I guess you have to find something to hate to make yourself feel better, when you are an economic loser..

  11. Roger on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 10:07 pm 

    “The western economies has been build by white people using their comprehensions of the law of conservation of energy and other laws of physics. If their is no energy left their is no western world and so there is no white people. White people will go extinct with peak oil. … Etc.”

    Wow, what a message of hopelessness and hate. Satanic.

    There are only two types of people on earth — saved (in Christ) and condemned. All the rest is from satan.

  12. Makati1 on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 10:11 pm 

    Roger, ignore MM’s childish putdowns. He cannot help his handicap of immaturity and ignorance.

    BTW: Religious comments here will only get you ridiculed as a religious nut. Nuff said.

  13. Makati1 on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 10:17 pm 

    “Empire of Misery: America Sees War as the Solution ”

    “America sees war as the solution to every problem and so of course is always involved in war within its own borders as well. The wars on poor people, the wars on black people (who like Palestinians can be murdered with total impunity), the wars to steal even more native land, and of course the war on immigrants.”

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/empire-of-misery-america-sees-war-as-the-solution/5647433

    “We must work tirelessly to expose the crimes of Israel its apartheid system its mass incarceration and mass torture programs, its propaganda campaigns, its endless land thefts, its racism, its attacks on its neighbors, its war mongering lobbies, and schemes to steal Palestinian and Syrian oil.”

    And its control of the Us government. One of the reasons why the Us must be put down. Time for the consequences of the last 150+ years to come home.

  14. Roger on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 10:19 pm 

    “The invaders? You are paranoid loon..I guess you have to find something to hate …”

    No hate, but eyes wide open…and discerning good from evil.

    Remember your words when Abu Sayyaf comes a knocking…

  15. MASTERMIND on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 10:34 pm 

    Roger

    You are a nut job..And just because scaremongering works on you, doesn’t mean it will work on me..You stupid ignorant coward..

  16. Makati1 on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 10:40 pm 

    MM, the 9 year old. LMAO

  17. MASTERMIND on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 10:42 pm 

    Madkat

    Dont get mad I refuted your fake news scaremongering..Unlike you I question what I read..And I think for myself..Something stupid hick carpenters like you dont even know how..

  18. Makati1 on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 10:45 pm 

    “The Globalist Elite Fears Peace, Wants War”

    “The announced meeting between Trump and Putin has already produced a good result by revealing the hypocrisy of the media and politicians. The meeting has been branded as the greatest danger to humanity, according to the Western globalist elite, because of the danger that “peace could break out between Russia and the United States”.”

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/07/13/globalist-elite-fears-peace-wants-war.html

    ” Washington bases its power on force, both economic and military. But this power also rests on the posture assumed and image projected. The United States and its deep state considers negotiating with opponents to be wrong and counterproductive. They consider dialogue to be synonymous with weakness, and any concession is interpreted as surrender. This is the result of 70 years of American exceptionalism and 30 years of Unipolarity, has allowed the US the ability to decide unilaterally the fate of others.

    Today, in a multipolar world, the dynamics are different and therefore more complex….”

    If the Us is not putdown, and soon, WW3 is in the near future. Are you prepared?

  19. Makati1 on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 10:46 pm 

    Mm, you “refuted” nothing. Sorry, 9 year old loser.

  20. MASTERMIND on Fri, 13th Jul 2018 11:29 pm 

    Madkat

    Time for the US to be taken down..WTF? Who do you think you are? You self righteous idiot..You are a religious person on a crusade..If the US goes down it will just create a vacuum for another country to fill and they will do the same shit, possibly worse..just like when the police arrest a drug dealer, another just pops up a few days later..As long as there is money to be made, there will be fraud and conquest..Study history you ignorant loudmouth, no nothing..

  21. Makati1 on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 12:06 am 

    MM, I am one of BILLIONS who want the Us to be taken down and be unable to invade countries and kill millions of innocent people. The Us has plundered the world long enough. Time for it to end and that means that the Us has to be brought down and broken. That will mean millions of Americans will likely suffer, many will die, and most will lose their cushy lifestyle. So be it. Blow-back is a bitch, well earned by Americans. I hope it is soon. before they can start another “war” of choice.

    The death of t US is not a vacuum. It is an opening for the rest of the world to have peace. Not possible as long as rabid dog America is on the loose. It needs to be put down like any other rabid animal.

    When the Us goes down, the world will revert to a different method of trade and be a world where a country’s sovereignty is respected, not invaded. Other than the Us’ wars of choice, the world has not has wars since WW2.

    I see Americans living a life like that in most other, non western countries. Consuming ~5% of the world’s resources, not 20+%. Can you handle that, MM? I doubt it. That 22 short looks better and better doesn’t it. LOL

  22. deadly on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 12:51 am 

    Iran is going to make a deal with India to buy oil, much to the chagrin of Donald Trump. Iran can advertise their oil on Amazon and India can click on checkout. Done deal, don’t need no stinkin’ Trump to give permission.

    Madkat, there was war in the world before America. You can’t possibly be that ignorant.

    The Mongols made life miserable for the Chinese and invaded Baghdad in the thirteenth century.

    Napoleon got to Russia just in time to freeze to death. A lot of deserters on the way back home to Paris.

    America benefited with the Louisiana Purchase when Napoleon went begging for some money, conquering Europe has a cost. You can sell land that doesn’t belong to you as long as you say it belongs to you. It says so in the law somewhere. The law of the jungle rules sometimes, most times, in fact.

    Give up your land, you crazy North American indians, Manhattans, Massachusetts, Mohicans, Delaware, Ohio, get lost. Goes for you, you Apache, you, you Utes move to Nevada and California, no room for you Utes in Utah. Geronimo, Crazy Horse, Sitting Bull, Running Bear, all your land to us belong.

    Here’s some beads and trinkets, see you later.

    We’ll call.

    You gotta wonder if the leaders in Iran trust the Americans.

    Why does Trump babble so much and say absolutely nothing?

    So much fun.

  23. Makati1 on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 1:14 am 

    Deadly, in the last 70 years all wars were started by the Us. ALL of them. You are justifying their plundering, murdering and destruction of many innocent countries in the name of empire. Therefore, you deserve to share in the blow-back. Enjoy.

  24. Makati1 on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 1:26 am 

    Looks like America gets to keep its trash instead of unloading it in other countries. lol

    “Mountains Of Trash Piling Up On US Shores After China Stops Taking It”

    “Mountains of trash have been collecting at US recycling facilities shores after China stopped accepting “contaminated” materials from facilities across the country….

    What they do still accept – cardboard and metal, now has an extremely low contamination threshold of just 0.5% – a level far too low for current US recycling technology to handle. Making matters worse is that US waste handlers believe that China is on track to close its doors to all recycled materials by 2020, just 17 months from now – an impossibly short deadline…

    Other scrap importer countries such as Indonesia, Vietnam or India are incapable of absorbing the tens of millions of tons that China had previously taken….

    “The biggest issue here is that China just gave very little time for the industry to transition,” said Adler.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-12/mountains-trash-piling-us-shores-after-china-stops-taking-it

    AWWW! Too bad! NOT! This is just the beginning of China’s push-back on Us bullying.

  25. Makati1 on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 1:37 am 

    An example of Us propaganda:

    “US Propaganda: Time Magazine Takes Swipe at Thailand”

    “Time Magazine’s article titled, “Thailand’s Leader Promised to Restore Democracy. Instead He’s Tightening His Grip,” reflects Wall Street and Washington’s growing displeasure with the current Thai government and its seemingly successful efforts to pivot the nation away from US-backed proxies including the ousted regime of Thaksin Shinawatra and his Pheu Thai political party (PTP), and toward a more multipolar footing in Asia and internationally….

    This includes stronger ties with not only Thailand’s other Southeast Asia neighbours, but also with China and even Russia. China is now Thailand’s largest trading partner, unseating the US. Thailand is also systematically replacing its ageing US military hardware with Chinese, Russian and European systems including Chinese tanks and submarines, Russian helicopters and European fighter jets. There are also large infrastructure deals signed between Bangkok and Beijing extending China’s One Belt, One Road initiative through Thailand….

    Instead of objectively portraying the prime minister’s words, Campbell predictably twisted them, intentionally took them out of context, all while interjecting misinformation and lies of omission throughout the article…

    Attempts by the US and its media to disrupt this pivot have been ongoing, with Time’s article being only a more recent example.”

    Americans are brainwashed 24/7/365 and believe they know the real world. They don’t have a clue.

  26. onlooker on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 1:40 am 

    Capturing the zeitgeist of these insane times in his unique way

  27. onlooker on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 2:02 am 

    https://www.revleft.space/vb/threads/169349-1-6-billion-murdered-by-capitalism
    1.6 billion murdered by capitalism
    US champion and main beneficiary of Capitalism = Makati is right

  28. Cloggie on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 2:09 am 

    Time for the US to be taken down..WTF? Who do you think you are? You self righteous idiot..You are a religious person on a crusade..If the US goes down it will just create a vacuum for another country to fill

    You got that right, millimind, plenty of candidates waiting in the wings, like the EU and/or China…

    https://www.rt.com/news/387313-us-losing-leadership-eu-mogherini/

    …who are both around for thousands of years, where you will be remembered as the shortest-lived empire in world history. Only the Soviets managed to collapse earlier than you, chapeau to them.

    Now what happened to your anarchist revolution? Has it been cancelled? I’m sorry to hear that.

    Meanwhile Trump’s allies in the internet media are now openly flirting with civil war:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaLG365dMV0
    (read: war of secession)

    Trump insists that the Europeans eventually need to spend 4% on defense:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/11/donald-trump-tells-nato-allies-to-spend-4-of-gdp-on-defence

    There is only one reason why he would want to see that happening: he wants the Europeans to bail out white America once the shtf (CW2), exactly the scenario I have been predicting here for years:

    http://tinyurl.com/y8ydx6a9

    Trump is the undertaker of the US empire. And he is going to use a major artificial conflict with Iran to help break up the US.

  29. Cloggie on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 2:29 am 

    For Cloggie: “I’ve been writing for several years about the inevitability of Europe becoming Muslim, however, Europe’s leaders are only now beginning to grapple with the problem of Third World immigration, apparently oblivious to the fact that they cannot prevent the inevitable from happening….

    EU leaders may not want to remember that for centuries their lands were ruled by Muslims:…”

    https://journal-neo.org/2018/07/13/the-hopeless-problem-of-white-supremacy/

    Oh, and the Us will get its share … not to mention the Latino “honey colored” immigration north.

    OMG, Deena who?

    Deena Stryker, some commie lover from Philly…

    https://tinyurl.com/yda2vseh

    …and former Carter speech writer. There is nothing inevitable about immigration from third world shit holes. Before 1960 no single European would even contemplate letting the hordes in. It are these stinking US vassals in Europe who do that, but their days are numbered. America is about to descend in a civil war/war of secession, so we in Europe have our hands free to give our failed multicult “elite” the 1989-treatment:

    https://www.romania-insider.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/executie-ceausescu-evz.jpg

    Europe has thrown out Islam 3 times before and we are going to do it a fourth time. And after that it will the thundering sounds of EADS-choppers over the Mediterranean, hunting for invaders and blow them out of the water.

    …the South-North immigration wave signals the futility of the Caucasian minority’s attempt to maintain its supremacy in a honey-colored world. Given that white people account for only 16% of the total population, no matter how many brown people it eliminates through war and starvation, and no matter how many children white women agree to have, they are fighting an uphill battle, as any demographer could show with hard figures.

    Americans like you and Davy are hopeless. You are the only people on this planet who cultivate a glee about their own demise. Zero racism, as if this spinelessness were a good thing. It isn’t. “Racism”, the kosher smear-word for healthy self-preservation and preference for your own kind, is universal on this planet, even blacks have. It is a recipe for your own demise if you don’t cultivate it. This is a Darwinian planet and those who refuse to fight go under. White America is about to receive a major hair-cut. The very fact that many here have a refuge is a clear indication of what is about to happen and no, it ain’t got nothing to do with “peak oil”, but everything with social destabilization and threat of civil war.

    Mud shark Deena Stryker can go f* herself.

  30. Makati1 on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 2:41 am 

    Cloggie, you are the dreamer/denier of reality. The Caucasian race is blending in with the colors. Another generation or two and all there will be are permanent tans everywhere. White Europe and America are fading away.

    Glee about demise? Nope! I do see the future for what it is. The end of humanity, probably in this century. We sealed our fate long ago and now we keep putting more nails in our coffin.

  31. onlooker on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 2:46 am 

    Frankly, all of you with your tribalism disgust me. How petty and pathetic we humans can be. The entire Titanic ie Human race is sinking and all we can is fight each other. We may actually deserve extinction

  32. Cloggie on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 2:46 am 

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/06/25/sanders-nielsen-incidents-suggest-new-us-civil-war-underway-column/729141002/

    “Is America headed toward a civil war? Sanders, Nielsen incidents show it has already begun”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-Uuqv3kogc

  33. Cloggie on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 3:27 am 

    “Brexit will trigger the collapse of two-party politics”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-5952835/PETER-OBORNE-predict-Brexit-trigger-collapse-two-party-politics.html

    Peter Oborne/DailyMale believes that the current mega-crisis in British politics has the potential to overthrow the entire British political establishment.

    My opinion: this Brexit-drama is really about identity and the question “who are we?” Are we loyal Europeans or loyal Anglos? Britain is split in the middle about the question. The older ones prefer Anglosphere, the younger ones are happy enough with Europe. The older ones, with the British empire in mind, think they are too good to be “just another European country”.

    One thing is certain, this conflict is not going away any-time soon. The best compromise would be a Brexit-lite, basically what May proposes.

    For us continental Europeans the British are not interesting. Interesting are coming developments in North-America, where the Democratic Party is rapidly turning into a neo-bolshevik party and the Republicans are becoming the White Party.

    Timber!

    We must hurry up with our EU-army and do what The Donald says and rapidly increase our war-budget… in order to prepare it for intervention in North-America and restore 1492-1939 European power, including Russia.

    Peace is over.

  34. Makati1 on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 4:10 am 

    Cloggie. That EU army isn’t going to happen. That $% is even less likely. Debt stalks the West and will prevent any real change until the collapse. I hope you are preparing for a much lower lifestyle. It is getting closer every day.

  35. Makati1 on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 4:10 am 

    …4%…

  36. Cloggie on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 4:21 am 

    Actually makati, EU debt is decreasing for a couple of years now:

    https://goo.gl/images/AkTCqx

    An increase from 1.5 to 3-4% is doable.

    After all, Europe does not need to defeat the US army, “only” intervene between warring factions.

    EU + Russia = 640 million.

    We have the numbers.

  37. Makati1 on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 5:03 am 

    “An increase from 1.5 to 3-4% is doable.” No it is not, Cloggie. It will never happen. The EU will break up and maybe NATO also in the near future. All that is holding it together is lies and the money printing press. Numbers mean shit. After the collapse you will live in an 1800s Europe. Wait and see.

  38. MASTERMIND on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 5:39 am 

    Clogg

    The only thing Europe is headed for is bankruptcy and collapse..Do you want me to cite the World Bank number again?

  39. MASTERMIND on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 5:40 am 

    Madkat

    You think there will be peace without the US? You are so ignorant of history and human behavior..There were plenty of wars well before the US was even created..You are self serving, self righteous moron..You move half way around the world and are still upset you got ran out of town here and your wife left you..

  40. MASTERMIND on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 5:44 am 

    Clogg

    Europe’s GDP will be zero within the next decade..And Russia’s oil production is peaking around 2020..Both of you are on the road to ruin..You dumb ignorant buffoon.

  41. Davy on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 6:00 am 

    “Is America headed toward a civil war? Sanders, Nielsen incidents show it has already begun”

    It has started but it is political and it will be nonviolent. When I say nonviolent I mean there will likely no military involved. We are going to have protest and acts of individual violence. We may see more homegrown terrorism. I am not say that the military will not be involved in 10-15 years when global civilization could crash then we may see martial law. What I am saying is all the board anti-Americans who salivate over a second American civil war are pissing in the wind. There are too many power centers in the US. There may be this liberal/conservative divide but that is just superficial. The real divide is regional and corporate. It is religious and race based. There is no unity of forces to allow a civil war. The extremist are just making noise and pose little threat to the integrity of the country. Those of you who preach this nonsense don’t know the country anyway.

  42. Davy on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 6:06 am 

    “Frankly, all of you with your tribalism disgust me.”

    DITO, this board should be called peak racism and dumbass old men.

  43. MASTERMIND on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 6:07 am 

    Davy

    Just wait till the oil starts to run out in a few years..American’s will go bonkers and start shooting everyone..They will lose all hope and then they will have nothing to lose..It will be a bloody mess..

    I hope you get what you deserve you rich little bitch..Your generation lead us to annihilation..You failed.

  44. Davy on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 6:16 am 

    “JHK has a pretty good picture of America in 2018. LOL”

    3rd world, at least we talk about our problems. These things are no allowed in Asia. You will wake up one day in a daze when SHTF all around you.

  45. Makati1 on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 7:25 am 

    Two delusional sock puppets arguing with each other is hilarious! Perhaps you should consider this: “China Has Been Preparing For A Trade War For Over A Decade”

    “When we mention China in the world of alternative analysis, several issues always arise: China’s expanding debt burden, government spending on seemingly useless infrastructure programs like “ghost cities,” China’s central bank and its corporate subset misreporting financial figures regularly, etc. All of these things fuel the notion that when a global fiscal disaster inevitably takes place, it will emanate first from China. They also give the American public the false impression that a trade war against China will be easily won and that China will immediately falter under the weight of its own veiled instabilities….

    The argument that China is somehow dependent on U.S. markets and consumers in order to keep its economy alive is simply a lie….

    The problem of swiftly growing Chinese debt is presented often as the key argument against the nation surviving a global economic reset or trade war, with its “shadow banking” system threatening to unleash a long hidden credit crisis and stock market plunge. But this is not the complete story….

    Notorious globalist George Soros revealed a few darker details of what the IMF calls the “global economic reset” in an interview in 2009; these details included a diminished American economy, a diminished dollar and for China to become a new economic engine for the world….

    …while China has placed itself to survive (not necessarily to thrive) during the chaos. The same cannot necessarily be said for the U.S., which suffers from the Achilles Heel of total dependency on the dollar’s primacy.”

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2018/07/13/china-has-been-preparing-for-a-trade-war-for-over-a-decade/#more-179654

    Nuff said.

  46. JuanP on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 7:47 am 

    This article is both boring and depressing. When I become Supreme Leader of the World I will declare tattoos and lip gloss illegal and send Kylie J, Davy, MM, and Kim K to my Mars penal colony. Let’s get the assholes of our planet!

  47. JuanP on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 8:06 am 

    Mak “”The argument that China is somehow dependent on U.S. markets and consumers in order to keep its economy alive is simply a lie.””
    Exports are only 20% of China’s GDP; exports to the USA are 20% of total exports. Chinese exports to the USA are 4% of China’s GDP, equivalent to a few months worth of Chinese GDP growth. Other markets are available; there are a few billion people living outside the USA.
    I am in favor of tariffs for many reasons, but mostly because they encourage localization, which I think increases resiliency. I think the tariffs will have an efficiency cost, of course, but could be for the better in the long run for all parties involved. I hope the tariffs become permanent and grow globally. I agree with Trump on the tariffs, though maybe not for the same reasons.

  48. Davy on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 9:10 am 

    Bonehead and 3rd world making noise meanwhile intelligent people seek the truth which is always somewhere in between.

  49. Davy on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 9:14 am 

    Bonehead. What other markets are available ? Your understanding of global economics is similiar to the other board drop out. Did you read that 3rd world, yea you. If what you say is true then why are the Chinese taking this trade battle so seriously. You two are hilariously stupid. This happens to extremist who take these things emotionally.

  50. joe on Sat, 14th Jul 2018 9:45 am 

    “https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/northern-hemisphere-in-grip-of-unprecedented-heatwave-853740.html”

    There may not be time for any of your visions to occur.

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