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Kunstler: Furor Time
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It’s only taken a week for President Trump to give the body politic an immigration enema. The aim, perhaps, was to flush out a set of bad ideas that Barack Obama had managed over eight years to instate as “normal.” Namely, that it’s unnecessary to enforce the immigration laws, or cruel and unusual to do so, or that national borders are a barbarous anachronism, or that federal laws are optional in certain self-selected jurisdictions.
But Trump’s staff sure fucked up the details carrying out his refugee and immigration ban, most particularly detaining people with green cards, and those already granted visas. The blunder provoked an impressive blowback of airport protests, and finally a stay from a federal judge, which muddied the legality of Trump’s executive order — all in all, a tactical stumble for Prez DT, who apparently omitted to consult with an array of government agencies and their lawyers before issuing the decree at close-of-business Friday. For the record, I’m down with the complaint that Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt, and Afghanistan were left off the no-come list, since those lands produce more radical Islamic maniacs than anywhere else.
The reader by now probably detects my ambivalent feelings in this bundle of issues and grievances, so let me try to clarify my basic positions: I think borders matter and they need to be protected. I think our immigration law enforcement under Obama has been deeply dishonest and damaging to our politics in ways that go far beyond the question of who gets to come here. I believe we are under no obligation to take in everybody and anybody who wants to move here. I believe we need an official time out from the high-volume immigration of recent decades. I believe we have good reasons to be picky about who we let in.
The most dishonest and damaging trope of recent years is the widely-accepted idea on the Left that illegal immigrants are merely “undocumented” — as if they were the hapless victims of some clerical error made by the government and therefore deserving of a pass. Language matters. The acceptance and repetition of this lie has in effect given permission to the Left to lie whenever it suits their purposes about all kinds of things, for instance the delusion that Russia stole the election from Hillary Clinton and that Radical Islam doesn’t pose a threat to western values (or even exist). And it is certainly true that they are assisted by legacy media giants such as The New York Times, The Washington Post, and NPR. The Times, especially is keen to provoke a national crisis that might unseat Trump, by simply declaring it so in a three-column headline:
The furor seemed rather out of proportion to the people inconvenienced by Trump’s administrative blundering: about 300 green card holders out of 300,000 travelers admitted over the weekend — even after the White House walked back its green card miscue on Sunday. And it gives the impression even to someone who is allergic to conspiracy theory (yours truly) that some organizing principle is behind it. That principle may be the deep neurosis of the Dem/Prog Left reduced to virtue-signaling in their out-of-power echo chamber. Having no coherent ideas about the immigration issue besides resistance to it, they offer only sentimental narratives: tears on the statue of liberty, “dreamers,” sanctuary cities, nation-of-open-arms, we’re-all-children-of-immigrants, and anyway North America was stolen from the Indians. The hysteria is impressive, as if the Left has come down with ergot poisoning, seeing witches (racists, homophobes, misogynists, white privilege villains, and Russians) behind every juniper shrub in the land.
I’d go as far to say that this neurosis derives from the general psychological boundary problems of the current Dem/Prog ethos. Their zeal to erase categories has resulted in lost categories of thinking — it’s all one big soup of victimization out there now and everybody better rush to cash in their victim brownie points while they still can — or as long as Senator Chuck Schumer can keep the crocodile tears flowing. From my vantage, this country would actually benefit from having firmer categories of thinking and certainly firmer categories of behavior.
What really irks the Left is any defense of Western civilization, especially in something so concrete as demographics. This defensive impulse has been deeply suppressed in the recent political life of Europe and America. On the university campuses, it’s become the equivalent of original sin. Donald Trump turned out to be a peculiar choice to lead a turnaround from all this, and his oafishness may eventually deter an effort to restore something like a self-respecting common culture. But the turnaround is coming to Europe, too, this year in a set of national elections. Expect more civil strife as the battle is joined.
70 Comments on "Kunstler: Furor Time"
onlooker on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 1:31 pm
You can come up with all the strict immigration laws imaginable and enforce them all but that will not change the fact that the planet as whole is overpopulated and that this overpopulated mass is draining and straining ever more the capacity of the planet to support life and is destabilising social cohesion and stability everywhere
Davy on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 1:52 pm
Now you are talking:
“it’s all one big soup of victimization out there now and everybody better rush to cash in their victim brownie points while they still can — or as long as Senator Chuck Schumer can keep the crocodile tears flowing. From my vantage, this country would actually benefit from having firmer categories of thinking and certainly firmer categories of behavior.”
Davy on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 1:56 pm
I want the borders tightened. Immigration cannot be stopped practically in our globalized world but it can be made to mean something and have value. I feel we have 100MIL too many people in this country per a period of decline that could leave us poor and desperate. You can give an optimist argument of progress and development but you cannot discount a collapse is always possible. Let’s not push our envelope of unsustainability. That is optimism but I am arguing we are moving into a dangerous period of decline and the last thing we need is more people. Immigrants are great people and I feel for them but I care more about my family then theirs.
The US is to blame for a significant amount of the current refugee problem so we can’t walk away from these issues. That does not mean we have to import them. We need to allow them to live in place without disrupting nations and creating more displaced people. I want to see the US get out of other countries business unless it is a multinational effort.
Soon it is going to be food and water. This is going to be a crisis without end. It is just the beginning so now it is time to get tough on this issue on both sides. Let’s stop creating the problems in the first place and secondly enforce and tighten up borders. The days of enforcing American values on the world should be consider over. They were never real values anyway. They were a Trojan horse to take control of other countries.
Hello on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 1:59 pm
I’m dissapointet with Trump. Why only ban muslim trash when you can shoot it?
penury on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 2:18 pm
But if the laws were actually enforced the poor Tech CEOS and peo9pe like Howard Schultz (starbucks) would be forced to use U,S, citizens rather than HIB workers at one third the cost. Where is your pity for poor Jeff Bezos or Microsoft or Musk or the other poor billionaires?
Cloggie on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 2:22 pm
What really irks the Left is any defense of Western civilization, especially in something so concrete as demographics.
Wow, mr Kunstler is flirting with alt-right-lite.
But the turnaround is coming to Europe, too, this year in a set of national elections.
You bet.
The third world would be the worst off if the West would seize to exist.
Better trickle down than nothing at all.
http://16315-presscdn-0-27.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/cell-phones-in-africa.jpg
Meanwhile Africa has an obesity problem.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/21/obesity-africas-new-crisis
Stop whining and think about the future of your children first.
https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/steinbach-tweet.jpg
“Germany 2030 – where are you from?”
joe on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 2:41 pm
European politics is not as open or as free as Americas. Expect huge push back from the globalists. The socialists dream of splitting the family unit fits nicely with jihadists dream of smashing a divided liberal west.
Apneaman on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 2:51 pm
The main reason that the immigration laws are not enforced is to benefit the 1% business class. I have seen it with my own eyes living in Georgia and have even been told by a white redneck supervisor of illegals for an insulation crew (part of a big construction company that was part of an even bigger corp) that the company knows that their social security cards and other documentation are bogus and simply don’t care. Sure the naive and unrealistic liberals are partly to blame for propagating the illegal problem, but there are many powerful interests who are profiting that are playing the game of condemning illegals while at the same time doing nothing about it and in fact directly profiting from it or protecting the interests of those who are. It’s called playing both ends from the middle and many wealthy conservatives and their puppet politicians do not want anything to change. In fact I would argue more cheap labour with no benefits and shitty safety is what they want. Their are plenty of laws on the books in the US and if they were practiced the number of illegals would be way smaller that today. Cheeto’s wall is just a way to whip up frenzy among stupid white men. If he was really honest and serious about illegal immigration here is what he would do: Start with the biggest employer of illegals, the parent corporations and fine them. There will be a fine for each worker and that fine will be what it costs for the government to deport them. This has an element of public shaming o it which is bad for business. Once this has been enforced with a small handful of employers and the MSM gets ahold of it the employers would be scrambling to dump their illegal workers. In addition, you let it be know that the auditors will be looking at employment records going as far back as they can go, BUT, if you fess up now, dump your illegals there will be amnesty and no financial penalty. One of the first things that would happen is there would be plenty of job openings for legal residents and citizens and the message would travel down the immigration grape vine that it’s way way tougher to find work in the US. This is what I would do if my goal was to reduce the number of illegals. Of course this will never happen because there are too many “Big Club” members profiting from illegals. You would be challenging and threatening lot of powerful people and that will never happen, so thus you get “The Wall” which is nothing more than cheap political theater.
onlooker on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 3:01 pm
Yes, it is no coincidence that comprehensive Immigration reform has not been enacted in ages. The Oligarcs like the just the way it is. Just like the Drug war has not made a dent in Marco trafficking. They like it just like it is. If it ain”t broke do not fix it
Cloggie on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 3:16 pm
Off-topic – sorry to have to break it to you Joe and the British empire fan girl from Vancouver, but the Beeb is going to air a documentary next week, admitting one of the dirty secrets of British history, namely that the Dutch invasion of 1688 into the British isles was never an “act of liberation”, invited by British Protestant sympathizers of William of Orange, but in reality a naked invasion, with no other purpose than for the Dutch to rob the British treasury in order to keep the French in check:
http://tinyurl.com/jqjfc2q
The Dutch succeeded where Napoleon and Hitler failed.
Mwoahaha.
The official line is that the bloodless revolution changed the course of British history, establishing the supremacy of parliament over the crown… But TV historian Lucy Worsley, described the official version of history surrounding the installation of the Dutch prince who would be “reinvented” as a Protestant hero as one of the three biggest myths of British history… In a BBC documentary to air next week, she will describe how the revolution began with an act of treason inspired by an anti-Catholic politician and how King William III, was a foreign invader who was engaged in “spin” over his motives and whose real agenda was to prevent a French and British Catholic alliance waging war in Europe.
William’s ousting of his predecessor ensured the primacy of the Protestant faith in Britain. His decisive victory over James at the Battle of the Boyne is celebrated annually in Northern Ireland on July 12… “The Dutch prince was carefully transforming himself into a very British hero, a protestant knight in shining armour leading a glorious revolution. Not an invader. Not a usurper, but a liberator,” she said.
To sum it up: in 1672 there was a frontal attack by the Catholic British, Catholic French and German Catholic bishops to destroy the Protestant Netherlands and wipe it off the map once and for all. The country was beleaguered for 18 months and foreign troops were all over the place. Thanks to admiral Michiel de Ruyter the British were destroyed at sea…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glwnk5x1scY
…and the French were withheld long enough for Lou14 to run out of money so he no longer could pay his troops.
But William knew that the British and French could return any minute and that was the real reason for the invasion: to prevent a Franco-British alliance from attacking Holland again.
A tiny country Holland invading a big country Britain to keep it from allying with an even bigger country France for the purpose of destroying the Netherlands.
Justice at last.
Let’s hope that certain other historic lies won’t be revealed only after more than three centuries.
pointer on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 4:34 pm
“This is going to be a crisis without end”
It’ll end when we run out of humans.
shortonoil on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 5:21 pm
Vermont had a vey popular bumper sticker for many years, it went, “Welcome to Vermont, enjoy our beautiful vistas and clear running streams. Don’t forget to leave”
If the American Indians had know how to read and write, they would have benefited from one of the same. But just because they got screwed out of their land, doesn’t mean that modern white man is going to role over, and get screwed out of theirs. Sorry Snowflake, we aren’t moving out to let Tunisia in. We know how this game is played, we invented it!
penury on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 5:31 pm
I understand that the state of WASH is filing suit against Trump Coincident or trick of fate I read that Bill Gates is a cooperating person in the lawsuit.
Cloggie on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 5:41 pm
They are going to attempt to sabotage Trump wherever they can.
How dare he represent the interests of the American people, it is a disgrace!
https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/30/amazon-and-expedia-to-support-washington-state-lawsuit-on-trump-immigration-order/?ncid=rss
Amazon, Microsoft, the whole stinking globalist corporate money machine.
Davy on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 6:19 pm
Here in the nowhere of the Ozarks Trump has solid support and I am sure this is the case elsewhere in the fly over regions except in the more liberal urban areas. Even in the urban areas there is strong support. The liberals and the establishment are making a stink because they have the media in their pocket. This gives them a voice. A significant amount of people are behind Trump. The people that are wailing and whining lost the election for a reason and now they are doubling down on their failure.
I am delighted all these people are upset. I love the fact that so many Anglos in Anglosphere are bent out of shape. They have my finger for reference. The rich liberals are beside themselves finally. In the past they owned this country. They are disgusting people that inhabit places like Hollywood and an increasingly corrupted academia. Tech CEO’s act god like. They have prospered off the wealth transfer policies of the last few decades. They became affluent and then corrupt and now they are paying the price of overreach. Good riddance and adios! I was once left leaning and now they sicken me. Maybe a new left will rise from the ashes.
Davy on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 6:27 pm
“Mutiny? Acting Attorney General Orders Justice Department Not To Defend Trump Executive Order”
http://tinyurl.com/h7hbncx
“In what those with a flair for the dramatic might be allowed to call “mutiny”, Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, who is the current acting Attorney General, has given orders to Justice Department lawyers not to defend Trump’s executive order.”
makati1 on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 6:42 pm
We shall see just how many immigrants the u$ manages to deport or prevent from entering. The war in America has begun big time. The sides are evenly matched, with the elites still holding the strong cards: military, money, internet, etc.
The war game is on! Glad I am watching from 8,000 miles away. Pass the popcorn.
Cloggie on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 6:54 pm
Are you sure makati they have the military? That’s a very crucial point, perhaps THE crucial point.
Have a strong feeling that “history is on the march again”.
Fukuyama and his “End of History”, bwahaha.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_History_and_the_Last_Man
DerHundistlos on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 6:54 pm
Watch the shocking Discovery Chanel/BBC documentary posted to Youtube titled, “Conspiracy of Silence” about the widespread sexual abuse of the boys at Boystown by numerous Republican politicans and wealthy financial donors (my cousin was one of the victims). The Republicans attempted to silence the doc. by purchasing the publication rights for a monumental sum, but fortunately a few copies were leaked. This is the kind of investigative reporting we need now more than ever. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DquLnRycZms
Ghung on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 6:57 pm
Davy says; “The people that are wailing and whining lost the election for a reason and now they are doubling down on their failure.”
Yeah, Davy, keep on dismissing that majority as a bunch of wailers and whiners, since you don’t have the character to actually address their concerns. I’m deeply concerned about the direction our country is headed, utterly convinced that the new administration will make things worse, internally, create deeper divisions leading to civil war, and IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CLINTON OR ANYTHING ELSE EXCEPT THINGS AS THEY CURRENTLY ARE. Got that?
Your branding me and others as whiners is a piss-poor dismissal of others who know at least as much about these things as you pretend to. There’s absolutely nothing useful about it. But go ahead and continue to be useless. Helluva way to waste a life.
Me? I continue to try and make local change, hoping to help others around me through the shitstorm you folks are busy contributing to. That doesn’t include branding others for their rightful choices. They will turn on you just as fast as your Trump-supporting hillbillies up the road.
I’m betting you haven’t even realized that your statement, above; “They are disgusting people that inhabit places like Hollywood and an increasingly corrupted academia. Tech CEO’s act god like. They have prospered off the wealth transfer policies of the last few decades.’ describes your new president to a tee.
makati1 on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 7:04 pm
BTW: “Flashback 2006: Senators Clinton & Obama Vote For Secure Fence Act, Bush Signs Bill”
“The final roll call shows both Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton voted for the bill.(2006)
In 2008, Obama, Clinton Backed Off Border-Fence Law
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-30/flashback-2006-senators-clinton-obama-vote-secure-fence-act-bush-signs-bill
Could this be called the Obama – Clinton Two Step? lol
makati1 on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 7:08 pm
Cloggie, yep, they have the military for the same reason they have you, money. A military takeover would destroy the rest of America and its financial system. It would end the empire. Will generals slit their own throat because they disagree with their Commander in Chief? I doubt it. But, more insane events have already happened. We shall see.
Cloggie on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 7:31 pm
Nations are often born out of a (won) war. This standoff could be decisive whether or not there will be a real Amerikan nation, not just a country of immigrants as it was so far. My own nation got its profile from the 80 year war against the Catholic Spanish. Hope it won’t take that long for Amerika.
Interesting that Ghung understands the seriousness of the situation.
Hubert on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 7:35 pm
Beginning of the End. At least Trump is facing REALITY.
Cloggie on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 7:46 pm
Commie plum pudding Michael Moore and traitor of the Rust Belt not well received:
https://youtu.be/d477Sv4WEwA
Theedrich on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 8:25 pm
The Left seeks a “color revolution” in DC. Sörös and the State Dept. (remember Victoria Nuland?) succeeded in violently overturning Ukraine with their NGOs paying for and engendering “popular” protests. Sörös and his other multibillionaire pals are seeking to repeat the exploit in the U.S. It is actually a subversion of America by psychopathic megalomaniacs.
sidzepp on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 8:35 pm
Sally Yates just got her pink slip from the commander-in-tweet!
Chris Hill on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 8:47 pm
I feel bad for the people stuck in the middle of this, but it is like holding onto a bare wire when somebody is telling you they are going to turn on the switch and you just choose not to listen. It kills me how all these tech companies are going on and on about this. If they start messing with the H1b’s, a lot of the tech geniuses are going to be wearing out the company bathrooms. The only way these companies got as big as they are is to use really smart people they could get from somewhere else and pay them less and treat them worse than Americans. Mostly what we got for all of that is more ways to do the same things we’ve always done, and better ways to mine data most people would rather keep private. If it all blows up and they have to run their companies like real businesses and pay people what they are worth or move it all to the third world and deal with the problems that will cause, I for one would not be displeased.
Truth Has A Liberal Bias on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 10:10 pm
Fuck are you losers ever retarded.
joe on Mon, 30th Jan 2017 10:37 pm
Cloggie am I supposed to give a shit about what happened a million years ago. Thanks for the info though. You just proved to me what a bunch scum you Euros really are. All about greed and money. Better off out of the EU I reckon.
Cloggie on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 2:02 am
Whatever joe, as long as your kind disappears from the face of this earth after having started two world wars. You are the most vile (Dresden) sneaky greedy (Boer War) jealous (WW1) lying (holocaust) little weasels on this planet. Britain is the only country I hope will be overrun by the darkies… to be never heard of again.
And now get the hell out of Europe so we can swap you for Putin and begin a European army and the payback time can begin: the complete demontage of Anglosphere: Australia and New-Zealand to China, Scotland and the banks to continental Europe and Amerika split in the middle, with heartland USA strongly tied to continental Europe.
Davy on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 3:48 am
Sorry, Ghung, your majority is not a majority it is at best an equal footing. Your liberal left is fracturing into what Kunstler called a big “big soup of victimization”. Your liberals have the mistaken idea that what was going on was the right direction. Your unholy liberal bastions of wealth transfer and privilege that coopted multiple groups in an incorrect politically correct is collapsing. It was about lying politics of Clinton and Obama. It was about a bias media and a 5th column of the intelligence circles. It had everything to do with Clinton because she embodied the pay to play and the corruption that allowed any means to an end. She warped and corrupted the public by public displays of politically correct solidarity for this soup of victimization and privately embraced Wall Street and the neocons. Your groups are whiners and failures and you are whining about that. The establishment is a house of cards crashing all around itself and you a part of it.
You are the worst whiner Ghung because you did not vote. George Carlin this all you like but you did not exercise your constitutional duty and you lost. You can’t have the luxury of bitching because you were too much above the election and did not want to get your hands dirty. You are one of those righteous types that is quiet and calm avoiding the mess until you lose then it is whine and wail.
Good Ghung, make your local changes that is where you excel. I have a very high opinion of you at that level. Elsewhere you are just a stuck up liberal living among hillbillies. You are too smart for your own good. You talk about living with the little guys but you feel intellectually above them. That is probably why you live off the grid away from everyone. The masses are too messy for you. It is why your liberal elite brothers lost the election and now are going to lose the country. I live with my locals and respect them in their uneducated realism. I embrace higher issues but respect the little guy. You liberal don’t. You all think they need to be coddled and directed by superior intelligence. Look where your superior intelligence got you. Maybe what you liberals needed most was humility.
Yea, Ghung, I described the new president to a tee and that is why he is kicking ass and taking names. He understands these people and beating them at their own game. You are kidding yourself if this country could ever be change by something other than a Trump. He may not succeed but this movement is here to stay. Bend over and take your butt hurt. You asked for it. Get ready for conflict and change and not like you may have hoped for.
Davy on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 3:57 am
“Watch the shocking Discovery Chanel/BBC documentary posted to Youtube titled, “Conspiracy of Silence” about the widespread sexual abuse of the boys at Boystown by numerous Republican politicans and wealthy financial donors (my cousin was one of the victims).”
Good, der Hund, while they are at it they need to discuss the Clinton Crime families ties to pedophiles and all the trips down to the private Islands for sex. Pizza gate and all the Podesta evilness should be investigated. Maybe that was just conspiracy talk but the more one studies these people like the Clintons, Podesta and Weiner of that group we know there were disgusting things happening among these people. They thought they were untouchables and above the law. You know they were going to evil places corruption takes people. The corruption at the top on both sides must be cleaned up.
Davy on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 4:43 am
Nationalism and the tension between inconsistencies and pragmatic policy.
“U.S. Travel Ban Puts Saudi Arabia In An Awkward Position”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-30/us-travel-ban-puts-saudi-arabia-awkward-position
“In addition to creating mass chaos in America’s airports and general confusion around the world, Trump’s immigration ban is putting Saudi Arabia, a key ally in the middle-east, in a fairly awkward position. Per the Wall Street Journal, Trump’s immigration ban, which currently does not include Saudi Arabia, has put the country in the awkward position of having to manage a desire to pursue stronger ties with the U.S. at the risk of alienating key allies, like Yemen and Sudan, that will inevitably view such a move as abandoning Muslim neighbors.”
“Ironically, Saudi Arabia has produced more extremists that went on to carry out attacks on U.S. soil than any of the countries directly affected by the ban. Osama bin Laden, the late head of al Qaeda, was from one of the kingdom’s most prominent business families and 15 of the 19 Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers were Saudi. Only Tunisia has contributed more foreign fighters to the Islamic State, according to a 2015 study by the Soufan Group, a security consultancy. Of course, this all comes as the ACLU is gearing up to fight the Trump administration in the Supreme Court on the basis that the new travel restrictions represent an unconstitutional ban of Muslims in direct violation of the First Amendment. Something tells us that Saudi Arabia is wishing that the millions of dollars they funneled to the Hillary Clinton campaign would have been a little more impactful.”
Cloggie on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 4:46 am
Yesterday, Dutch 20:00 news; these lefties are still loyal to the George Soros empire, now in a state of dissolution:
http://tinyurl.com/znk87zp
They show pictures from Mexico, where there are shops where you can buy inflatable Trump puppets and next “do things” to it. The tone is quasi-neutral, but they produce sentences like “what are the Mexicans supposed to do with Trump?”
After all, everybody knows that America belongs to the Mexicans, not the Europeans.
It shows the utter corruption of these Soros-lefties: they think they can have an alliance with the endless masses from the third world and use them to defeat the higher productive identitarian elements of white society and stay in power thanks to this alliance.
A similar egalitarian scheme worked in Russia-1917: use the underclasses of society (the Friday’s) to kill everybody with a brain and take over and effectively decapitate the society… with the final result a miserable useless $100/month society that has no alternative but to fall over, flat on its face.
That’s what’s going to happen to Europe and America as well if these folks aren’t going to be stopped, if necessary the (very) hard way.
What these nihilists intend to do is the complete destruction of higher European civilization and turn it into a rap-baggy pants fake society and a hell for white people…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC-Cqkq6zWc
…and effectively handing over the keys of the planet to the 1350 million IQ100 Chinese, who don’t have this self-defeating fag Christian-Marxist cancer in their bones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLliQOYMzJs
It is a pity we ran out of lions.
#LetsGoFullRoman
[part 1]
Cloggie on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 4:47 am
Now I don’t worry too much about Europe, natural born fascists all.lol, too proud to subjugate themselves to Islam, let alone to Africans…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7xqwm_c1_k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Inu_-0dcSU&t=2s
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-10/trump-s-win-prompts-hungarian-call-for-crackdown-on-soros-groups
…for whom these US media stadtholders will be easy meat once the US will descend into chaos., just like the Soviet stadtholders in Eastern Europe were finished once the Soviet Trump (Gorbatchev) gave the nod and threw the globalist towel of the central planning variety in the ring.
The real decisive question for the face of the planet of future will be what is going to happen in the US and if the continental Europeans (Paris-Berlin-Moscow) can motivate themselves to again intervene in North-America, like they (France-Holland) did in 1776.
[part 2]
Cloggie on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 4:48 am
This is what we all should want:
https://s17.postimg.org/6wwnomfpb/worldmap.jpg
But if we fail, this is going to be the alternative (painting with a very broad brush) as predicted by George Orwell-“1984”:
http://tinyurl.com/jy7ngg5
1. Christian State (orange), ultra white (Paris-Berlin-Moscow)
2. Judaic State (pink), mixed race, forced total racial integration (“Oceania”)
3. Confucian State (green), China
4. Islamic State (yellow), lead by Turkey
Turkey is where Orwell was wrong, the secular Ataturk revolution is being reversed, Turkey is not Europe.
And he was probably wrong about Australia also, that could become a prey for China, when a darkening Judaic State will loose ever more clout and unable to defend that former penal colony once known as “New Holland”.
[part 3]
Davy on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 4:57 am
“The Left Is Self-Destructing: Paul Craig Roberts Rages “The Mindlessness Is Unbearable”
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/01/30/left-self-destructing-paul-craig-roberts/
“The mindlessness is unbearable. Amnesty International tells us that we must “fight the Muslim ban” because Trump’s bigotry is wrecking lives. Anthony Dimaggio at CounterPunch says Trump should be impeached because his Islamophobia is a threat to the Constitution. This is not to single out these two as the mindlessness is everywhere among those whose worldview is defined by Identity Politics. One might think that Amnesty International should be fighting against the Bush/Cheney/Obama regime wars that have produced the refugees by killing and displacing millions of Muslims. For example, the ongoing war that Obama inflicted on Yemen results in the death of one Yemeni child every 10 minutes, according to UNICEF. Where is Amnesty International?”
“Clearly America’s wars on Muslims wreck far more lives than Trump’s ban on immigrants. Why the focus on an immigration ban and not on wars that produce refugees? Is it because Obama is responsible for war and Trump for the ban? Is the liberal/progressive/left projecting Obama’s monstrous crimes onto Trump? Is it that we must hate Trump and not Obama?”
“The easiest and surest way for the Trump administration to stop the refugee problem, not only for the US but also for Europe and the West in general, is to stop the wars against Muslim countries that his predecessors started. The enormous sums of money squandered on gratuitous wars could instead be given to the countries that the US and NATO have destroyed. The simplest way to end the refugee problem is to stop producing refugees. This should be the focus of Trump, Amnesty, and Dimaggio.”
“Is everyone too busy hating to do anything sensible? It is very disturbing that the liberal/progressive/left prefers to oppose Trump than to oppose war. Indeed, they want a war on Trump. How does this differ from the Bush/Obama war on Muslims? The liberal/progressive/left is demonstrating a mindless hatred of the American people and the President that the people chose. This mindless hatred can achieve nothing but the discrediting of an alternative voice and the opening of the future to the least attractive elements of the right-wing. The liberal/progressive/left will end up discrediting all critics, thereby empowering those to whom the liberal/progressive/left are most opposed.”
Davy on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 5:21 am
“Hated by those who hate Russia”
http://thesaker.is/hated-by-those-who-hate-russia/
“It is highly revealing that the task force pounces on this article on this subject, because it deals precisely with distinguishing between the truth and lies, and points out that the political elite has entirely lost its ability to distinguish between the truth and lies. This abandonment of truth is far and away the greatest threat to world peace in this day. Russia is not.”
“Today’s politics are entirely beyond the irrelevant left/right and red/blue paradigm. The real issue is truth v lies, good v evil, right v wrong. The American election campaign blew this truth wide open. There was hardly any real policy debate, but reams of lies were revealed as masquerading as truth. In its wake, the unspeak designers launched the phenomenon of “fake news” in order to regain control of the narrative. The EU task force has also been set up for achieving a monopoly for the EU version of acceptable reality. The war on truth rages on after President Trump’s inauguration, and the presstitute media now intensify their campaign to brand Trump as a liar.”
“The media have been roundly exposed as liars. Yet the media claim that the exposure of their lies is a lie and that people who want the truth are lying. Those who tell the truth are blamed as liars, while the media adamantly maintain that they are the truth tellers. Confused? The world has moved from the usual conflicts in the realm of geopolitics and economics to moral and spiritual warfare. The world now witnesses an epic confrontation between the truth and lies, light and darkness, that was kept invisible for so long. A spiritual war is raging between those who choose good and those who choose to call good what is evil. “
“Yet who is prepared and equipped for this epic battle of our day? Relativism of values has rendered many, if not most, completely without solid ground and the first idea of what is good and what is evil, utterly unable to recognize truth and defend themselves against lies. They have learned no rudiments on discerning because they have grown up with no spiritual foundation”
“In the 1940s, George Orwell wrote “during times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”
Davy on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 5:31 am
Weaponized immigration, hum now that is a threat!
“Mexican Official Threatens To Combat President Trump By “Unleashing Drug Cartels”
http://tinyurl.com/gmyzd6b
“Jorge Castañeda Gutman, former Secretary of Foreign Affairs in Mexico, took things a step further during an interview on CNN with Fareed Zakaria when he suggested that Mexico’s previous cooperation with the U.S. in curbing the flow of drugs and illegal immigrants could end. Instead, the cartels could be essentially unleashed upon the U.S. – retribution for tough policies on Mexico and other immigrant-producing countries in the Latin American world.”
“The implications are astoundingly clear – Mexico would consider exporting chaos and violence into the United States as a form of payback for immigration restrictions and controls against the instability that the southern border has brought to the country for decades. Out of bitterness or desperation, or a mix of both, Mexico’s finest would apparently weaponize their most brutal elements and deliberately send them North to sow chaos – only proving the reasons for controlling the border and reigning in the deterioration of the U.S. standard of living that has been going on for such a long time now.”
Cloggie on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 5:37 am
The Left Is Self-Destructing
Wish that were true, but that would be underestimating them.
Clearly America’s wars on Muslims wreck far more lives than Trump’s ban on immigrants. Why the focus on an immigration ban and not on wars that produce refugees?
Because the left wants to realize the communist dream of One World State of Eternal Peace (a pipe dream as you can’t eliminate ethnicity/religion)… and you can’t make an omelet without breaking eggs, now can you.
The left supports the US global empire and its wars for the Good Purpose of One World.
Cloggie on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 5:49 am
Mexican Official Threatens To Combat President Trump By “Unleashing Drug Cartels
All for it.
All that patriotic Europeans should hope for is Islamic terrorist attacks with 100 dead/day to quickly get rid of the multicult and its supporters (reopen the Schwitz for all I care, that’s where hard core commie traitors belong anyway, hi Friday!).
Likewise patriotic Americans should hope for massive darkie violence, like from Mexican drug cartels. Go for it Mechico!
Migration is slow motion territorial conquest and nothing else, which the promoters of the multicult (hi George!) know all too well.
Well, well, well, life is getting interesting again, far more interesting than programming your iPhone all day.lol
20th Century Fox 24/7… starring you! (bring your own script).
Hubert on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 5:51 am
@Davy pizzagate/pedogate: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate
DARK AGES AMERICA:
PARTI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaPnu9LciuI&t=17s
PARTII: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXTwHCEBLyc&t=11s
Davy on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 5:55 am
“New Rasmussen Poll Reveals Silent Majority Approves Of Immigration Ban”
http://tinyurl.com/z2lq569
“While vocal, and often violent, disaffected Hillary protesters may get a lot of media attention, a new Rasmussen poll out today reveals that the silent majority of Americans, men and women who don’t have time to protest 24 hours a day because they actually go to work to provide for their families, support Trump’s temporary immigration ban from 7 mostly-Muslim countries in the Middle East and Africa. In fact, per the new poll, 57% of likely U.S. voters actually approve of the ban while only 33% were opposed.”
“The refugee ban is supported by 82% of Republicans and 59% of voters not affiliated with either major party. Democrats are opposed by a 53% to 34% margin. The numbers are nearly identical for the temporary ban on visas from these seven terrorist-plagued nations. Men and women are in general agreement on both measures. Younger voters are slightly less supportive than their elders are. Blacks oppose both bans more than whites and other majority voters do.”
“That said, many legal scholars have asserted that Trump’s immigration ban will stand up against Constitutional tests, with GWU professor Jonathan Turley saying the ban can’t be viewed as a “Muslim ban” given the “vast majority of Muslims around the world are not affected by the limitations placed on these seven countries.”
Cloggie on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 6:19 am
Wow, Canadians growing a pair, never thought I would live to witness that. So it weren’t Muslims after all?!
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/quebec-mutmasslicher-attentaeter-soll-in-kanada-rechtsextreme-hetze-verbreitet-haben-a-1132459.html
A right-wing Canadian extremist! What you not say! I would have guessed they have more living dinosaurs in Canada than right-wingers. Life is full of surprises.
Ok, he is a Frog (Alexandre B.), not a Brit-derivative, but still.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3Wb9kcWIAAuU9C.jpg:large
Cloggie on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 6:27 am
Euro-Canadians making fun of the gender baloney…
http://www.eurocanadian.ca/2017/01/sexual-identity-in-trudeau-canada.html
…and the total disaster that is feminism (as if we haven’t more than enough males on this planet):
http://www.eurocanadian.ca/2016/11/kathleen-wynne-man-thing-i-think-i-love-you.html
Leftism once had a role to ensure that workers wouldn’t not stay behind too much. But that kind of leftism has been made superfluous now that most workers have a telly, a car, a weight problem, seen a plane from the inside and the kids can go to college. The left made itself superfluous and should have rolled over and died.
But now the left has discovered a new target to elevate: the entire third world at the cost of aging whitey. thanks, but no thanks. Lift yourself third worlder!
Cloggie on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 6:33 am
America according to the global Left:
http://tinyurl.com/jeavk2n
Midnight Oil on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 7:18 am
Like Trump get a hoot about the details…the Fuhrer gave an order, he expects it to be obeyed! Jawohl, mein All Knowing One…
Sissyfuss on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 11:09 am
Someone show me a political system designed to organize and ameliorate the ongoing collapse of modern civilization. While we slide to the right, the real slide is down, ever down. The actors on the stage of leadership all seek to impose their visions regardless of results and still the path is down, ever down. No one knows the way out of this conundrum, but we can’t let the aimlessness reveal itself or our identity will be discounted. Perhaps our collective direction is that of down and out. Time will tell.
Ghung on Tue, 31st Jan 2017 11:50 am
Davy said; “You are the worst whiner Ghung because you did not vote.”…. and other misstatements about me. Seems he feels, like the Trump cabal, that it’s ok to lie about others and forward falsehoods. And they aren’t “my liberals”, but considering Davy’s inability to see beyond his limited binary thinking, I’ve come to expect that.
As I said numerous times, I voted, I don’t support either party, and the only side I choose is my own dedication to real truths, and the oath I took to support and defend the Constitution.
You never took that oath, did you Davy?