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Kunstler: Fall of the Great Pumpkin
Welcome to the witching month when America’s entropy-fueled death-wish expresses itself with as much Halloween jollity and merriment as the old Christmas spirit of yore. The outdoor displays alone take on a Babylonian scale, thanks to the plastic factories of China. I saw a half-life-size T-Rex skeleton for sale at a garden shop last week surrounded by an entire crew of moldering corpse Pirates of the Caribbean in full costume ho-ho-ho-ing among the jack-o-lanterns. What homeowner in this sore-beset floundering economy of three-job gig-workers can shell out four thousand bucks to decorate his lawn like the set of a zombie movie?
The overnight news sure took on that Halloween tang as the nation woke up to what is probably a national record for a civilian mad-shooter incident. So far, fifty dead and two hundred wounded at the Las Vegas at the Route 91 Harvest Festival (one up in fatalities from last year’s Florida Pulse nightclub massacre, and way more injured this time).
The incident will live in infamy for maybe a day and a half in the US media. Stand by today as there will be calls far and wide, by personas masquerading as political leaders, for measures to make sure something like this never happens again. That’s rich, isn’t it? Meanwhile, the same six a.m. headlines declared that S &P futures were up in the overnight markets. Nothing can faze this mad bull, apparently. Except maybe the $90 trillion combined derivatives books of CitiBank, JP Morgan, and Goldman Sachs, who have gone back whole hog into manufacturing the same kind of hallucinatory collateralized debt obligations (giant sacks of non-performing loans) that gave Wall Street a heart attack in the fall of 2008.
Europe’s quaint doings must seem dull compared to the suicidal potlatch of life in the USA, but, believe me, it’s a big deal when the Spanish authorities start cracking the heads of Catalonian grandmothers for nothing more than casting a ballot. The video scenes of mayhem at the Barcelona polls looked like something out of the 1968 Prague uprising. And now that the Catalonia secession referendum passed with a 90 percent “yes” vote, it’s hard to imagine that a good deal more violent mischief will not follow. So far, the European Union stands dumbly on the sidelines. (For details, read the excellent Roel Ilargi Meijer column on today’s TheAutomaticEarth.)
Next in the cavalcade of October traumas: the USA versus the nuclear weapons ambitions of North Korea. This has been ramping up all year, of course, but it looks to be headed for a climax now that the Golden Golem of Greatness is at the helm. Most astounding, though, is America’s new method for conducting the most sensitive matters of foreign policy. The day after Secretary of State Rex Tillerson declared that his office was in contact with North Korean officials, the Secretary’s boss, You-Know-Who, tweeted out: “I told Rex Tillerson, our wonderful Secretary of State, that he is wasting his time trying to negotiate with Little Rocket Man.”
Could this possibly be a cleverly orchestrated good cop / bad cop effort to bamboozle Kim Jung-un? Or is the US government just completely dysfunctional? Or maybe something else is afoot. Under normal circumstances, Mr. Tillerson would just resign after such a gross insult, but we must suppose that a patriotic sense of duty compels him to remain in office in case the need suddenly arises in this witching month to run over Mr. Trump with the 25th amendment — the clause in the constitution that allows a consensus of a pretty small number of national political leaders to toss out a sitting president on the grounds of derangement and incompetence. Stay tuned on that one.
Finally — well, who know what else may pop up now — there is the matter of Puerto Rico. Halloween there is not like New England, with our nippy fall mornings, steaming mugs of hot cider, and quickening fall color. It will remain 90-degrees-plus down there in the fetid, stinking ruins, with lots of still-standing water, broken communications, shattered supply lines, and very little electricity. FEMA and the US Military may be doing all they can now, but they must be on watch for the ominous blossoming of tropical disease epidemics. The story there is far from over. Trump travels there this week. That may be exactly the moment that the Deep State moves to take him down.
209 Comments on "Kunstler: Fall of the Great Pumpkin"
GregT on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 6:37 pm
” What, exactly, is the difference between a ‘crazy’ individual shooting from the 32nd floor of a hotel into a large crowd of people with conscious intent to kill and a nation’s military lobbing cruise missiles or dropping bombs onto an opposing nation’s population centers, occupied hospitals or upon other so called ‘innocents’ with the same conscious intent to kill?”
Most sane people would find both extremely upsetting.
makati1 on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 6:50 pm
Greg, apparently most Amerikans are not sane. They whine about a few hundred, but ignore a few hundred thousand in some 3rd world country.
Sorry, but I think they deserve what is coming and it is going to be a killer shock when it happens. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving country and people.
Apneaman on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 6:55 pm
Mak, the guy in the hotel has much better aim and a way better kill ratio (who doesn’t?).
zerohedge is propaganda and of the worst sort. They go on and on about it, but their readers are the dumbest fucking white men on the planet. Most Americans are clueless to their history, but they don’t care. The corporate story feels better. Makes em feel important by association. Their fake history is all the desperate have left.
‘The Gunning of America’ takes aim at the role of guns in our history
“In her remarkable new book, “The Gunning of America,’’ historian Pamela Haag undercuts much of the charged rhetoric about the importance of firearms in the nation’s culture and history with a richly sourced, empirical look at the 19th century origins of the gun business and the men who made it.”
“Haag shows that guns became a central totem because of the hustling entrepreneurial zeal of figures like Oliver Winchester and Samuel Colt, who created a market, stoked demand, and made a mint in the process.”
“For Winchester, who was born in Boston in 1810, the gun was just another consumer good to be flogged on the market, little different than a corset, hairpin, or the men’s shirts he sold before he entered the business. (He harbored no especial love for guns as objects; he had never even fired one before he started making rifles in the late 1850s.)”
“The “Gunning of America’’ abounds with ironies. The gun as an essential component of the image of the rugged individualists who settled this country turns out to be mostly fantasy, concocted in corporate boardrooms.”
https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/books/2016/04/14/the-gunning-america-takes-aim-role-guns-our-history/l7YE3BQ4p7uxbG4Ve590ZM/story.html
Mak, don’t forget we’re talking about the same peoples who a guy successfully marketed tens of millions of “Pet Rocks” to. They will buy anything as long as you stick to the “Formula” AKA propaganda.
Dupes
GregT on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 7:00 pm
I wouldn’t go so far as to say most Makati. I know quite a few Americans who do not support the warmongering. I am hopeful that sane Americans are in the majority. The problem is, they don’t have any control over what the MIC does.
makati1 on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 7:00 pm
Papers please!
“Bad enough that we are required by law to present our “papers” – government-issued ID cards, egregiously mislabelled as driver’s licenses – whenever a government bullyboy so demands. Just as in the former East Germany, just as in the former Soviet Union – and in another place whose name it’s hardly necessary to mention. … Think of the loathsome body scanners we must pass through at airports. Think of the Mobile Biometric Driver’s License. … wants to use your smartphone and facial recognition technology it developed to convert your cell phone into a mobile, scannable and downloadable version of your “papers.” … In theory – and in technological fact – a cop would not even need to pull you over to examine your “papers.” He could simply access your phone. Without you even necessarily knowing. … Whatever else you’ve got on your phone. Texts, images, emails and Internet searches. It’s the electronic version of a free-for-all rifling of our persons and effects without our persons or effects even being aware it’s happening. …And we won’t be given the option to opt out.”
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/08/26/your-smartphone-please/#more-157697
Yep! The Amerikan Police State is well and growing.
GregT on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 7:04 pm
And to Apnea’s point above, indoctrination and propaganda are finely honed tools.
makati1 on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 7:07 pm
Greg, if they are old enough to vote or protest, they are guilty. There is no excuse for world ignorance in the age of the internet. None. Excuses don’t change things. Action does.
I have family and friends there also, but why should they be exempt? Are the innocent women, children and babies be of less concern just because we don’t know them? Because they live in some foreign country? No.
In law, anyone who is aware of a crime and doesn’t report it is an accessory to the crime and can be punished. Likewise, anyone who stands by while their country kills in their name, and does nothing to stop it, deserves the ‘punishment to come. So be it.
JuanP on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 7:38 pm
Boat, I consider a million immigrants a year a mass migration, but I think that would be a matter of opinion. I am an international migrant, but I think it would be best for the USA to close its borders and send all non citizen migrants back home. I don’t want to go back home, but I do think the USA needs to fight population growth by all means possible, including stopping all immigration.
Boat on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 7:43 pm
Three-in-ten American adults say they own a gun.
Two-thirds (66%) of gun owners say they own more than one firearm; roughly three-in-ten (29%) say they personally have five or more guns.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/06/22/key-takeaways-on-americans-views-of-guns-and-gun-ownership/
The number of firearms available to American civilians is estimated at around 310 million, according to a 2009 National Institute of Justice (NIJ) report.
I have owned a gun since 12 yrs old. 3 rifles, 2 shotguns. 4 pistols. I hunted and limited target practice 30-45 years ago. Just never got around to selling them.
DerHundistlos on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 7:51 pm
@ The Nationalist says, “Why do all of you “progressives” feed the hysteria with your uneducated nonsense?”
Tell me, who comprises your enemies list here?
Such nonsense.
Boat on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 7:52 pm
Yet there would be idiots that want my guns because other idiots killed with theirs.
Denial on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 7:54 pm
Mak I had to come on here and see if you are still here and were not the shooter in Vegas…..especially when I read that he was sending money to the philippines—-glad it is not but also wonder about “old guys on here ” lots of hate!
Davy on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 8:06 pm
full moon is out and the extremist are howling hate.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 8:24 pm
Mad kater!
You don’t think Nobel Prizes in Science and Economics and Lit mean anything? WOW. And you call me brainwashed..I am sorry China and Asia did so poorly. Its because they are slave states and their people do what the sweat shop owner tells them to do. And all their media and internet is controlled. sorry So many US citizens are hitting home runs with so many Nobels. While citizens in and the P’s are swimming through garbage. Little Tiny Israel publishes ten times the amount of science peer reviewed papers than your country and china combined. Oh yea thats right. Israeli’s are white. makes sense.
Boat on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 8:27 pm
JuanP on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 7:38 pm
We agree other than immigrants that came legally have contracts that need to be honored.
makati1 on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 8:40 pm
MM, nope! What does the decision of a few politicians mean in the real world? Zero. And the Nobel group is nothing but politicians these days. Those who make real achievements do not do so for some award. They do so for their personal reasons and/or money. Not recognition. Recognition is the narcissist/egoist need found in militaries, sports and politics.
makati1 on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 8:42 pm
MM, BTW: Israel could disappear today and the world would breathe a sigh of relief as long as anyone of Jewish decent went with them.
makati1 on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 8:45 pm
Denial, your name is perfect. Twisted, but perfect.
Davy on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 8:49 pm
“MM, nope!”
Mad-cat1, do you have a list of alternative awards or are these illusions in mad-cat fantasyland. In the real world there are real prizes for real achievements no matter if they are less than perfect they are still real. Your awards mad-cat fantasy.
Davy on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 8:52 pm
“sigh of relief as long as anyone of Jewish decent went with them.”
Mad-cat1, you are a disgusting individual. You want solutions to whole populations. You are a true sicko’s. First Deagel dot com and now you are pushing a Jewish solution.
makati1 on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 9:22 pm
Davy, I am not alone in my view of the real world. Billions are of the same mind. Most are cheering on the collapse of the West. Be patient. It is in progress.
“The American empire is coming to an end. The U.S. economy is being drained by wars in the Middle East and vast military expansion around the globe. It is burdened by growing deficits, along with the devastating effects of deindustrialization and global trade agreements. Our democracy has been captured and destroyed by corporations that steadily demand more tax cuts, more deregulation and impunity from prosecution for massive acts of financial fraud, all the while looting trillions from the U.S. treasury in the form of bailouts. The nation has lost the power and respect needed to induce allies in Europe, Latin America, Asia and Africa to do its bidding. Add to this the mounting destruction caused by climate change and you have a recipe for an emerging dystopia. Overseeing this descent at the highest levels of the federal and state governments is a motley collection of imbeciles, con artists, thieves, opportunists and warmongering generals. And to be clear, I am speaking about Democrats, too.
The empire will limp along, steadily losing influence until the dollar is dropped as the world’s reserve currency, plunging the United States into a crippling depression and instantly forcing a massive contraction of its military machine.
Short of a sudden and widespread popular revolt, which does not seem likely, the death spiral appears unstoppable, meaning the United States as we know it will no longer exist within a decade or, at most, two. …
Empires in decay embrace an almost willful suicide. Blinded by their hubris and unable to face the reality of their diminishing power, they retreat into a fantasy world where hard and unpleasant facts no longer intrude. They replace diplomacy, multilateralism and politics with unilateral threats and the blunt instrument of war. …
The brutality abroad is matched by a growing brutality at home. Militarized police gun down mostly unarmed, poor people of color and fill a system of penitentiaries and jails that hold a staggering 25 percent of the world’s prisoners although Americans represent only 5 percent of global population. Many of our cities are in ruins. Our public transportation system is a shambles. Our educational system is in steep decline and being privatized. Opioid addiction, suicide, mass shootings, depression and morbid obesity plague a population that has fallen into profound despair. …
The array of instruments created for global dominance—wholesale surveillance, the evisceration of civil liberties, sophisticated torture techniques, militarized police, the massive prison system, the thousands of militarized drones and satellites—will be employed in the homeland.”
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-end-of-empire/5611808
BTW: Putting down the messenger does not change the message.
Davy on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 9:31 pm
Global research is a freak site no wonder you reference it. Why not comment on your earlier final solution remark, sicko Why so much blood lust mad-cat1.
Boat on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 9:41 pm
mak,
Fortunately, the world is sweeping those like you under the rug of history. Civilisation is slowly creeping and gaining ground. The filth of your rhetoric won’t be missed.
makati1 on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 10:03 pm
Davy, truth is truth, no matter where it is posted. You can deny but it still exists. Your brainwashed mind is too fer gone for you to ever recognize truth when you see it. Only the “truth” Davy wants to believe is real.
makati1 on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 10:06 pm
Boat, not a word you printed is true. Just what you want to believe. More American bullshit from the least likely to really know what is happening in the world. The US is going down, Boat. The ship is sinking. Time to get off, IF you can.
Boat on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 10:25 pm
mak,
To move to a box in a box 20 floors up surrounded by a huge city with millions? Your own country prez asks rebels to help fight ISIS.
Sorry, my work puts me in the country buildings barns, putting kitchens in barns etc. You can look at mass humanity while I see chickens, horses, cows etc.
makati1 on Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 10:57 pm
Boat, your ‘work’ means nothing when the SHTF there. I may currently reside in a city condo, but the farm is progressing quite well. We are adding a kitchen to the workers house to accommodate their needs while building the house. They live on site during the week. Four laborers and a foreman cost ~$60 per day, plus food. How cheap are your laborers?
Not to mention that the land is TOTALLY owned, not loaned from some bank. Can you say the same? No bank or government here is going to take it if there is no money for mortgage payment or taxes, like in the US. YOU can never own any land there that the government or the bank cannot take away. None. The farm is a land grant dating back generations. Not purchased. Different rules.
makati1 on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 12:55 am
“Ask yourself: Who are these shooters modelling themselves after? Where are they finding the inspiration for their weaponry and tactics? Whose stance and techniques are they mirroring?
In almost every instance, you can connect the dots back to the military.
We are a military culture.
We have been a nation at war for most of our existence.
We are a nation that makes a living from killing through defense contracts, weapons manufacturing and endless wars.”
“All the while, the government’s war propaganda machine has grown more sophisticated and entrenched in American culture.”
“It’s estimated that U.S. military intelligence agencies (including the NSA) have influenced over 1,800 movies and TV shows.”
“That, too, was yet another example of how much the military entertainment complex – which paid $53 million of taxpayer money between 2012 and 2015 to pro sports teams for military tributes—has infiltrated American culture.
Are you starting to get the picture now?
When you talk about the Las Vegas mass shooting, you’re not dealing with a single shooter scenario. Rather, you’re dealing with a sophisticated, far-reaching war machine that has woven itself into the very fabric of this nation.”
https://rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/mass_shootings_the_military_entertainment_complexs_culture_of_violence_turn
Americans are so thoroughly brainwashed that they cannot think on their own. Mental and financial slaves to their masters who don’t give a damn about them except as animals to be drained of their wealth and blood. Servitude or revolution? We shall see.
joe on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 1:07 am
After a weekend of extremist paramilitary police action, Catalonians tired of being second class citizens want their own country. The EU is backing the royalists just as the Nazis did.
EU collapse is progressing. The imbalances caused by a single currency for a system totally out trade balance is starting to spin the EU out of control.
France just passed its own version of the patriot act. Que the abuses. How long until their own gitmo. How long until muslims demand their own freedom in western Europe just like the Catalonians. Multiculturalism is dead.
makati1 on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 1:20 am
The West is committing suicide. All are deeply in debt. All are fracturing along many lines. It is only a question of time as to who will be the first domino to fall. Soon, I think.
GregT on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 3:16 am
“Full moon is out and the extremist are howling hate.”
Full moon won’t be out until the 5th, but don’t let that stop you from continuing to make shit up in your delusional, sick little mind.
Davy on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 4:16 am
The dog answers to his name.
Davy on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 4:19 am
Mad-cat1, you do not know the truth and you love in denial. You use extremism to cherry pick facts to present a distorted picture of the world. I diminish and discredit you continuously. It is my duty to the truth. You are the enemy of the truth.
Davy on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 4:25 am
Mad-cat1, the west is in charge and it will continue to mark a direction forward in conjunction with less significant Asia. Asia is now facing very serious overpopulation issues. Both the west and Asia are facing unsustainable consumption trends. It is my guess Asia will begin the worst of decline mainly because of the huge population overshoot. It is my opinion population overshoot is the biggest short term indicator of a collapse process and the next is unsustainable development. In Asia now there is both. Once the global economy starts to decline on all levels Asia with its large populations will show the greatest decay. Currently Asia has significant growth but it is a hollow mal-investment that is really just fake growth. In fact it is damaging growth that will haunt Asia. The same is true in the west but to a much lower extent because the west is not going like Asia.
Davy on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 4:35 am
“Switzerland Tops World’s Most Competitive Countries Index (Yemen Least)”
http://tinyurl.com/y936utu4
“The World Economic Forum defines national competitiveness as the set of institutions, policies and factors determining productivity levels. Switzerland grabbed top spot in the report with an index score of 5.86 out of 7, recording strong and balanced results across the most important determining factors such as health, primary education and a reliable macroeconomic environment. The United States comes second for national competitiveness, though the report notes that it needs to improve its macroeconomic environment as well as health and education, both of which scored poorly.”
makati1 on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 5:17 am
Maybe in Davy Land, but not in the real world.
makati1 on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 5:23 am
Pakistan is moving to China’s side and the new Silk Road, and the US is losing it’s grip, so the US finds an excuse to move away.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-03/mattis-nato-might-drop-ally-pakistan-connections-terrorist-groups
“So ironically, when Pakistan’s foreign minister repeatedly tells the US to stop exclusively scapegoating Pakistani intelligence for the jihadist menace, there is more truth in his words than meets the eye. The Inter-Services Intelligence agency was but one of many US partners (Saudi Arabia and Egypt were other big ones) the US joined with in funding and supplying the original jihad which helped to leave the entire region in shambles and which spawned future generations of terrorists.”
Turkey. Pakistan. Maybe KSA next? One by one…
Davy on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 6:03 am
Lucky China, lol
TheNationalist on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 6:10 am
From my humble observations Hundistlos the so called “progressives” are mostly self proclaimed, but here is a short simplification of the absurd social trends afflicting people on here:
They exhibit self hatred tendancies much like the brain washed germans after the war. In my opinion it is often linked to wayward or failed parenthood in early childhood.
They either feel or promote the idea of ” white mans burden” (European responsibilty to help or intevene in other countries). Thiscomes from an inflated sense of ego (again linked to self proclaimed “progressivesness”).
There is a tendancy towards belief in multi-cultism and globalism which is linked to their beliefs.
As you can see this makes many unwashed masses “useful idiots” in the current great game of industrialism and cross border profiteering and rackets.
I’m sorry and wish no offense (after all most of us are members of this mass of brainwashed peasants whether we like it or not).
Cheers!
Hello on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 7:56 am
>>>>> Switzerland Tops World’s Most Competitive Countries
And all this without being part of evil EU.
I very much wish the UK to become as successful as Switzerland once they quit. That will teach those megalomanic EU burocrats a lesson. 🙂
Davy on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 7:59 am
Wonderful country Hello, I have been there at least. Dozen times. My wife’s (far)northern Italy has a similiar beauty and strengths.
Davy on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 8:06 am
Maybe more to the Las Vegas Shooter. It sure does not sound right to me this old worn out guy could stage this kind of attack.
http://tinyurl.com/ybq9zukt
makati1 on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 8:11 am
China / Pakistan:
“Pakistan is leaving the U.S. behind and teaming up with China as its new arms partner to build an arsenal of defense materials.”
http://www.foxnews.com/world/slideshow/2011/03/21/pakistans-updated-military-arsenal.html#/slide/hatf2__ap_
“China today put its enduring bonhomie with Pakistan on display — screening a video of air force pilots from both countries flying war planes together for the first time.”
http://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/china-and-pakistan-pilots-fly-jets-in-joint-combat-exercise-shaheen-vi/ar-AAszjqv
“For the first time ever, a Pakistani fighter pilot has flown a Chinese warplane during joint combat exercises between the two Asian nations. The exercises, which lasted through most of September, took place in Xinjiang, the westernmost province of China that borders Pakistan.”
https://sputniknews.com/military/201709281057793796-china-pakistan-air-joint-exercises/
“The “game changer”, which government officials, military generals, diplomats, journalists and a host of other observers refer to, is the $46 billion >China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) project, a highway which is to run from Kashgar in China to Gwadar in Balochistan, on the edge of the Persian Gulf, in Pakistan.”
http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/The-new-game-changer-in-Pakistan/article14342869.ece
Asia is uniting under China.
Davy on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 8:23 am
What about India mad-cat1. That’s Asia last I looked. I am glad China will be in bed with the Pakies. They are a black hole of trouble.
TheNationalist on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 8:44 am
The U.S. losing influence in Pakistan is a bit like being burgled and finding only your crapper missing.
fmr-paultard on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 9:33 am
according to eurotard here are list of counries and orgs opposing america
germany, france, canada, bostwana, russia, china, phils, vietnam, cambodia, south africa, venezuela, puerto rico, mexico, mozambique, spain, sweden, hollan, nertherland, hungary, chzechosolavaia, bosnia, romania, + 100 others
orgs:
nato, asean, opec, OAS, warsaw.
we’re doomed
joe on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 9:35 am
2 countries directly responsible for 9-11. Pakistan hosted and funded the Taliban and al qaeda, Saudi Arabia the ‘brains’ supplied safe houses funding for its operatives and diplomatic cover. The neocons like Jeb Bush, Dick Cheney and (former world bank president) Paul wolfowitz allowed this to happen by ignoring direct cia warnings. They hoped the attack would firm up support for the coming pillage of Iraq and reform and redrawing of the sykes Pichot nations which Israel struggles to deal with because it was never part of the Anglo French plan, Palestine like much of 1910s middles east was of very mixed ethnic-racial and religious heritage and was never intended that any nations were supposed to dominate. It was intended that the great powers of the time would simply replace the authority of the Ottomans who at the time still had a Caliph-Sultan for sunni muslims to bend the knee to. Had oil never disturbed the human consciousness its likely that system would have survived more or less intact to this day and the earth would have reached its human carrying capacity and things would be very different. Alas oil, money and greed have brought us to where we are. We cry for Las Vegas, but all of us are responsible in some way for the series of hurricanes helped along by climate change which have done so much more harm and killed so many more.
JuanP on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 10:19 am
Joe, the country most responsible for 911 is the USA.
If Americans weren’t murdering and abusing people
all over the world they wouldn’t have been attacked.
GregT on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 10:28 am
“It sure does not sound right to me this old worn out guy could stage this kind of attack.”
That would be because of your paranoid, delusional, sick little sad excuse of a mind.
GregT on Wed, 4th Oct 2017 10:39 am
“Pakistan hosted and funded the Taliban and al qaeda, Saudi Arabia the ‘brains’ supplied safe houses funding for its operatives and diplomatic cover. The neocons like Jeb Bush, Dick Cheney and (former world bank president) Paul wolfowitz allowed this to happen by ignoring direct cia warnings.”
The CIA was responsible for the rise of both the Taliban and Al Qaeda. The Neo-cons made it clear in their PNAC document “Rebuilding America’s Defences: Strategies, Forces And Resources For A New Century” that in order to sell further ME wars to the American public, a catalyzing event would be necessary like a “New Pearl harbour”.
“We cry for Las Vegas”
Not everyone cries for Vegas. Davy, for one, can’t figure out why people are getting so upset. The sick fuck that he is.