Page added on August 16, 2016
If you don’t understand what’s causing a particular problem, then it’s pretty difficult to come up with an effective solution.
Author, commentator and longtime friend-of-the-site James Howard Kunstler returns to our podcast this week to discuss the importance of accurate diagnosis — in this case, of the scourge he sees as accelerating America’s downslide into economic and social decline: Racketeering.
More associated with the organized crime bosses of a century ago, it’s not a word used often these days. But that doesn’t diminish in any way its relevance to and impact on our lives today:
The disorders in politics that we’re seeing now are really expressions of the larger disorders in our economic life and our financial life. That just happens to be the avenue that the expression is coming out of. Another point I’d like to make is that the reason that people are against Hillary or dumping on Hillary or don’t like her, is because she’s a poster child for racketeering. I encourage people who are talking about our circumstances and people who are interested in the news and election, to use the word racketeering to describe what’s going on in this country. You really need the right vocabulary to understand exactly what’s going on.
Racketeering is just pervasive in all of our activities. Not just in politics but in things even like medicine and education. Obviously the college loan scheme is an example of racketeering. Anybody who has to go to an emergency room with a child whose broken their finger or something, is going to end up with a bill for $20,000. You know why? Because of medical racketeering. And so, these are really efforts to money-grub by any means necessary, often in ways that are unethical and probably illegal. Let’s use that word racketeering to describe our national situation.
And let’s remember by the way, the activities of the central banks is just another form of racketeering. Using debt issuance and attempting to control interest rates in order to conceal our inability to generate the kind of real wealth that we need to continue as a techno-industrial society.
Societies have a really hard time understanding what they’re doing, articulating the problems that they face and coming up with a coherent consensus about what’s happening, and coming up with a coherent consensus about what to do about it. Combine that with another quandary, the relationships between energy and the dead racket for concealing real capital formation. I like to reduce it to one particular formula that is pretty easy for people to understand. It’s a classic quandary: that oil priced at over $75 a barrel in today’s dollars tends to crush economies, and oil priced under $75 a barrel in today’s dollars tends to crush oil companies. There is no real sweet spot between those two places. We’re ratcheting between them and each one of them entails a lot of destruction. That’s a terrible quandary that we’re in and it’s being expressed in banking and finance…and the people in charge of those things don’t really know what else to do except continue the deformation of institutions and instruments.
48 Comments on "James Howard Kunstler: Racketeering Is Ruining Us"
makati1 on Tue, 16th Aug 2016 7:49 pm
If you do not already know, much of what is happening and the conditions surrounding current events, re:the US economy, are very similar to those in place just before the Stock Market Crash that brought on the Great Depression. Since most who experienced that event are dead, and since history is not a popular pastime either in the schools or lives of Americans, there is no way most will see what is coming to America. This time, it will make the 30s look like a stroll in the park. Are YOU prepared?
IPissOnLoser on Tue, 16th Aug 2016 9:09 pm
Kunster and Chris don’t have anything interesting to say that has not already been said.
They keep talking about price of oil and financial system like if it matters. It is a matter of math, thermodynamics and energy equation.
Both of them are not helping people that are looking for real answers and are willing to look for a real answer and are willing to read more.
Kunster and Chris lack large knowledge of the world.
For example regarding the lack of insects there is already a theory explaining that.
Google genetic entropy. The loss of species is caused by the way the genetic genome get damage during reproduction of any living forms. There is loss of information in the genome during the passing of gene during reproduction. This is why there is so many species dying right now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY98io7JH-c
makati1 on Tue, 16th Aug 2016 9:37 pm
“There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” — John Adams
Apneaman on Tue, 16th Aug 2016 9:38 pm
IPiss, I puke on your young earth creationist link. Pseudoscience. Complete fucking bunk and waste of everyone’s time. Another religitard trying to prove god with fake science. These guys rarely bring up Christ, but that’s what they are getting at. Thing is, if you need science, albeit fake, to prove Geebus, then you have no faith. Faith is belief without proof. Looks like another fake christian heading for the lake of fire.
IPissOnApneaman on Tue, 16th Aug 2016 9:42 pm
It is not about creationist you stupid earth worth. It is about biologic and genetic. You are one of the stupidest commenter on here and you should be killed first right at the beginning of the collapse. Stupid people like you are the reasons intelligent people have given up on humans.
Apneaman on Tue, 16th Aug 2016 9:45 pm
Ipiss, the reason the species are dying is because there are too many techno industrial humans paving and cutting and digging and polluting and hunting and destroying their habitat. It’s called the 6th mass extinction and it’s on you and yours. AGW is just one part of it, but will be the final nail. The humans will go early as they rely on too many other species to make it. Mass extinction is defined as 75% or more of all living things and that includes the crops the humans eat. By mid century it will be mostly weeds and scrub on this planet. It’s the humans. It’s me, it’s you and co2 too and everyone we know and love. It’s on all of us. We caused this big fucking mess simply by being what evolution made us to be. No plan – just evolution tinkering away same as it ever was. Ended up with us – the rapicious ape. Deal with it.
IPissOnApneaman on Tue, 16th Aug 2016 9:48 pm
You are a stupid moron and annoying with your global warming. The sun is going into a sleeping mode you stupid idiot. that cannot think by himself.
Apneaman on Tue, 16th Aug 2016 9:53 pm
Too many humans. Take a look at this real time population clock.
http://www.worldometers.info/
225,000 new souls on this earth every day.
Take a look at the other clocks too.
Remember the big 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami? It killed about 1/4 million people. That day the world broke even and since then another 1/4 mil every day on & on………….
Apneaman on Tue, 16th Aug 2016 10:09 pm
How flattering you made a special handle just for me. Sorry, but your sentence was kinda incoherent – were y’all mad and typing furiously? What the fuck does the sun going into a sleeping mode (no such thing) have to do with global warming? It’s not sleeping – stars don’t sleep. Oh I get it, you’re suggesting a mini ice age is on the way? First the young earth creationist crap and now it’s sun sleeping time. Thing is you mouth breathers bring up the mini ice age thing every year for years, but the planet just keeps getting hotter. So when is year round christmas supposed to start? Hey do you have some of those awesome young earth creationist artist depictions of Jesus riding into Jerusalem on a little dinosaur? I love those.
btw it’s our global warming – it’s on you.
Apneaman on Tue, 16th Aug 2016 10:24 pm
Ipiss, “I should be killed first” by whom? Why don’t you beat the collapse rush and come find me and attempt to kill me yourself? I mean you seem so upset and all. I’m right here.
So I’m the stupid one eh?
What is this sentence supposed to mean?
“It is about biologic and genetic.”
Now unless english is your second language there is no other explanation for this other than some serious inbreeding. Did your sister-mom learn you dem letters? OMG, I hear a banjo playing.
sidzepp on Tue, 16th Aug 2016 11:03 pm
Talk of racketeering, what about the pay day loan centers and the excessive interest rates they charge. At one point in time 6% was considered usury and now state legislatures and Congress sanction these ridiculous practices. It is a further way to squeeze as much blood from the poorer segments of society.
makati1 on Tue, 16th Aug 2016 11:22 pm
Ap, you had me laughing so hard with that masterful putdown of Ipiss, my sides ached. Thanks!
makati1 on Tue, 16th Aug 2016 11:27 pm
sidzepp, how about this?
“… this fall the bank will start offering an unsecured personal loan. Similar loans from lenders like SoFi and LendingClub charge about 11% interest on average,…”
Payday loan? Nope! Goldman Sacs!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-16/33000-americans-have-deposited-18-billion-savings-goldman-sachs
Not to mention the interest on most credit card debt, which can go as high as 29+%. Al Capone must be rolling over in his grave. lol
Go Speed Racer on Tue, 16th Aug 2016 11:35 pm
What a war zone today. I am staying in my bomb shelter, with the hatch turned down tight.
makati1 on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 12:58 am
Papers please.
“”This case tells everyone, white and black, guilty and innocent, that an officer can verify your legal status at any time. It says that your body is subject to invasion while courts excuse the violation of your rights. It implies that you are not a citizen of a democracy but the subject of a carceral state, just waiting to be catalogued.”
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176175/tomgram:_judith_coburn,_on_the_mean_streets_of_america/#more
Shades of Nazi Germany right here in America.
Hello on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 4:53 am
Kunstler is wrong. 75 dollar oil does not kill the economy. Not even 200 does. It’s the speed of change that’s the problem.
makati1 on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 5:04 am
Hello, care to elaborate on that?
Doesn’t the ability to buy oily products determine the value of oil? Or the net energy of 2016 oil have something to do with value?
The speed of price change has little to do with petroleum’s value.
Hello on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 6:10 am
Mak:
A prefer a high stable oil price anyday over a highly fluctuating one.
A high stable oil price sends me a message: The message of moving closer to work, buying smaller car, etc, etc.
A fluctuating oil price does not induce productive change. It sends the message of “ride it out”, it will be back low soon, so no need to change.
Same for a business. With stability I can make plans. Unknowns and wildcard hamper investments.
Davy on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 7:11 am
My message has always been collapse is coming in a process. This process will likely be marked by events that represent smaller individuals collapse within the collapse process. This will happen over time and be nonlinear and linear. The nonlinear and linear will appear on different levels. We will see the steady erosions and the violent jagged reactions. The foundations of this collapse process are climate, oil, and the socio-political.
We know all about climate change and I feel we have a good handle on this board just how bad it is and how quickly it is progressing. We appear to be in the abrupt change part of the cycle. Up until now we were seeing the ocean absorb warmth and ice warming but not yet tipping into a melt phase. We are now in the time frame where physical observable reactions are occurring. The dangerous part of climate change is the food system. Infrastructure and habitability can be adapted to in the beginning of this process but the food system must grow to support so many people. We are barely supporting what we have now so if we have a flood and drought regime settle into our global food growing regions we are not going to feed 7BIL people. Likewise the oceans are dying and we are losing that important source of food. When people are not fed and or they are in food insecurity you do not have a stable society. In our global interconnected world instability will crash the system.
Oil is depleting. This appear to be a decadal process. We are now in a similar abrupt change phase for oil. We are seeing demand and supply destruction at the systematic and complex level. Oil prices are out of the range of what is needed to drive the economy with growth and what is needed to allow economic production growth. Oil has been damaged by the dysfunctional policies of the global central banks and is dangerously exposed to economic instability of possible gyrations in inflation and deflation. The oil complex is suffering from malinvestment of the early years of QE and rate repression. Global demand has not been able to maintain growth at a level necessary to maintain economic health. The rate of growth is stagnating. It takes just a small change in growth rates to affect a big change in economic demand and supply. Oil is approaching that point where its quantity of quality production is not meeting systematic economic needs. We see this in the ETP model as the dead state of oil. Oil like climate change will impact the food system and all other aspects of the system but it is food that will be the most destabilizing. We have plenty of oil for some time but not for all. We are going to see disenfranchisement of large segments of the world economy. Being interconnected means failing industries and states will eventually sink us all. It is just a matter of time.
The last aspect of collapse is the socio economic. This collapse process variable encompasses so many aspects from war to the economy. A war between Russia and or China with the US for example is a global economy killer. There will be no recovery. Mid-East wars at the level that damage oil infrastructure will not be recovered from. We have the systematic economic side of the socio-political. It is here we are seeing the destructive change of deflation and physical decay. We are seeing malinvestment of those segments that are growing. This is a process and it is systematic which makes it inclusive and pervasive. We can’t see the rot because it has infected all segments of the economy. It is approaching abrupt change because of duration. Just like there are limits to the ocean and ice masses warming there are systematic limits to the global economy. The destructive policies of the central banks are now starting to show the consequences of their actions. We are now seeing economic consequences with dysfunctional macroeconomics of currencies, markets, and the physical economy. We are seeing the effects of corruption, manipulation, and the disregard for normal fundamentals of accounting and the law. If this economy has an economic drop severe enough food will not be produced and distributed at the level needed to feed 7BIL people.
It takes economic velocity with quality energy intensity in a stable climate to maintain such a large global population at the levels of consumption needed to maintain all those people in the arrangement this global people have chosen to live in. This comes down to a matter of overshoot. We have consumption and populations that are so high they have narrow minimums of needed economic activity. We have the foundational elements of climate, oil, and the economy that have hit limits and are in the abrupt change phase of their individual process. Our civilization is based on technology and markets and these are now at limits and there is diminishing returns to their ability to generate efficiency and innovation. This efficiency and innovation is required to maintain operating levels of our civilization in overshoot. This is a macro inertia event that will slow the growth of activity and population and eventually collapse both. At some point the momentum will go into the decline phase and when it does there will be a breaking point where populations and consumption must adjust to. This is thermodynamic and ecological. It is non-negotiable.
We likely have some time because this is a process with unknown parameters. We have a narrow window of adaptation before the generalized individual failings will combine into global failures. Adaptation will be difficult in collapse. We are at the cusp of collapse and must act now. This is a crisis that is almost critical. We must react radically as a global people. This radical reaction will end globalism so it will likely not happen. The only alternative is at the individual and community level. We have choices now. When the full blown crisis hits we will be forced into new arrangements without adaptation. It is this condition all of us should worry about.
Davy on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 7:42 am
“The Odds Of A Global Food Crisis Are Rising”
http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2016/08/the-odds-of-global-food-crisis-are.html
Davy on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 7:47 am
“Walmart’s Out-of-Control Crime Problem Is Driving Police Crazy”
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-walmart-crime/
makati1 on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 8:05 am
Hello, I suggest you get used to chaos. I do not see ‘normalcy’ any time in our future. You will have to make your decisions based on what you see happening and what you believe will happen in the future.
When events start to level out, it will be a whole new world and it will not be anything like the one you grew up in. Countries will break up, the climates will be totally different and who can guess what kind of economy there will be, IF there is one. Necessities will not include electronics or cars but food, shelter and safety.
At least that is what I expect. Or a world war with a very different ending that will make us wish for the one I describe above.
dooma on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 8:11 am
I still am in total awe at the North American medical system. Talk about daylight (or after hours) robbery.
To think such a ‘wealthy’ nation can have a system in place where if one of your loved ones gets cancer, it will ruin you financially not just emotionally
It ought to be a national shame that people there allow their government to spend a stupendous amount on military spending when they already dominate the world. Yet they have such a crooked heath system.
Que Davy….
Hello on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 8:21 am
dooma:
The US is a dictatorship, not a democracy. Very similar to most nations in Europe.
Hello on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 8:26 am
Mak:
Unfortunately the world I grew up is already long gone.
I grew up in a decent and beautiful nation with a coherent culture. It’s now become a 3rd world multi-cultural freak show.
PracticalMaina on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 10:23 am
Hello, yeah they used to lynch people from different ethnicity for trying to live their lives, now they just shoot em, much more difficult to pretend to have due process when the trial is one racist mofo like Zimmerman stalking a teen.
Cloud9 on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 11:37 am
Practical, your comment spurred my curiosity. It turns out that between 1882 and 1968, 3,446 blacks were lynched. In the 513 days between Travon Martin’s death and the Zimmerman verdict, 11,106 blacks were murdered by other blacks. Time to get over the notion that the greatest threat to a black man is a white man.
efarmer on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 12:59 pm
Life has always been unfair, Government has always been corrupted by wealthy entities influence, and War has always been lucrative for suppliers of goods and weapons. But we never had this many people on the planet to concentrate up wealth and power and turn it on the masses. Welcome to the lightning round!
Apneaman on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 1:10 pm
Hello, what planet did this golden age utopia take place on?
I bet a few hundred years ago some Indians were expressing the same lament after the white man showed up with his disease and liquor and guns and metal and destroyed everything they had known for over 10,000 years.
What comes around goes around eh?
Boo fucking hoo cries the entitled little bitch.
It’s a self inflicted wound so stop your fucking belly aching.
Apneaman on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 1:14 pm
When I was a kid we had lots of big shiny shopping mall until them thar immigrants ruined itNall.
It’s all someone else’s fault.
The Mauling of the Malls
http://www.dailyimpact.net/2016/08/16/the-mauling-of-the-malls/
Cloggie on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 1:21 pm
The events on the Mediterranian, with hundreds of thousands of Africans risking their lives annually by trying to make it to Europe for no other reason that they are completely unable to create a liveable society by themselves, should give the BLM clowns reason to pause. Black privilege, namely the privilege to live among Europeans rather than among their sorry selves should not be taken for granted. We don’t need you for anything.
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1713275,00.html
Gold medal table Rio 2016
EU 80 (EU + Russia)
US 26
China 15
Japan 7
Australia 6
South-Korea 6
Third world: nowhere to be seen, more than half a century after the US forced the Europeans to decolonialize, remove European physical presence from the third world, to be replaced with American military bases.
Only China and Japan can somewhat compete. This medal table is examplary for achievements in most other facets of economic, scientific and cultural life.
Hello on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 1:25 pm
Ape:
As I said many times before.
The biggest mistake the Natives of America made was not to slaughter the Europeans upon arrival. They can be excused for this mistake. Because little did they know that Europeans were in limitless supply. And once they realized it, it was too late. Just like negros and arabs nowadays.
However it is unforgiving that current societies with the benefit of lessons from history are making the same mistake.
Yes, what goes around comes around. But it only comes around because of utter stupidity and ignorance of our retarded leadership. That is pretty sad.
Cloggie on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 1:40 pm
“Yes, what goes around comes around. But it only comes around because of utter stupidity and ignorance of our retarded leadership. That is pretty sad.”
It is obvious that you haven’t a clue who your leaders are and that they know precisely what they are doing: phasing out you.
The people you see are not your leaders. Presidency and Congress are merely a front for the real leaders.
Hello on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 2:42 pm
Ok, Clog. Please do enlighten me, you got my curiosity.
Cloggie on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 5:30 pm
Not on this site.
Perhaps after November.
makati1 on Wed, 17th Aug 2016 5:51 pm
clogie, the Philippines won one Bronze. A lady weight lifter, I think. But who cares? Almost all of the athletes are on drugs of some sort, and sports are a waste of time to watch, so I do not.
Third world countries have real contests called: survival. Soon America will be more interested in that contest than any Olympics.
Enjoy this one because it looks like it may be the last. What will the world be like in 4 years? 2020? Who knows? No one, but it definitely will be worse than today.
BTW: You need to look at this if you think that the “3rd world” cannot win medals.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/rio-2016/medals/countries
Kenya 7
Jamaica 5
North Korea 7
And many more.
PracticalMaina on Fri, 19th Aug 2016 10:01 am
Cloggie, did you keep the Klan tally? How the fuck do you know how many blacks were lynched in America, they dont even keep an official count of individuals killed by cops… Racist southerners of that time who attended such things could not count past 3000 is my theory.
Apneaman on Fri, 19th Aug 2016 2:33 pm
Strategic Inertia: In a 1948 State Department document, diplomat George F. Kennan offered this observation: “We have about 50 percent of the world’s wealth, but only 6.3 percent of its population.” The challenge facing American policymakers, he continued, was “to devise a pattern of relationships that will permit us to maintain this disparity.” Here we have a description of American purposes that is far more candid than all of the rhetoric about promoting freedom and democracy, seeking world peace, or exercising global leadership.
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176177/best_of_tomdispatch%3A_andrew_bacevich%2C_pentagon%2C_inc./#more
Cloggie on Fri, 19th Aug 2016 3:01 pm
“The challenge facing American policymakers, he continued, was “to devise a pattern of relationships that will permit us to maintain this disparity.” Here we have a description of American purposes that is far more candid than all of the rhetoric about promoting freedom and democracy, seeking world peace, or exercising global leadership.”
Fascinating, what a revelation, made by none other than apneaman!
But we are nevertheless going to maintain the fantasy that the notorious noble US deep state engaged in WW2 for no other reason than to liberate countries who had fell victim to the “Nazi boot”.
The alternative interpretation, namely that the US with its overwhelming economic weight engaged in an imperial shopping spree, is completely incompatible with Mr. X’s observation.
Cough.
And how lucky that the notoriously noble Anglos and Soviets established in a trial, that according to the #2 in the Nuremberg hierarchy senator Dodd had a staff that for 75% consisted of Jews, the evil Nazis had gassed 6 million Jews.
The crimes committed by the Nazis were so enormous that the notoriously noble Anglos and Soviets had no choice but to colonize the joint indefinately.
ghung on Fri, 19th Aug 2016 3:06 pm
Big bank whistleblower turns down reward worth millions
“A former Deutsche Bank employee has turned down his share of a $16.5 million whistleblower award to protest a lack of punishment for the bank’s top executives.
Eric Ben-Artzi, a former risk officer, is in line for the major payout after warning the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission that Deutsche Bank (DB) had inflated the value of its portfolio of exotic credit derivatives during the financial crisis.
It was a good tip: In May 2015, the SEC charged the bank with filing misstated financial reports and failing to take into account billions of dollars in potential losses. Deutsche agreed to pay $55 million to settle the charges. ….
….But the former banker, who is now vice president of risk analytics at BondIT, is angry that the fine was imposed on Deutsche’s shareholders, and not the managers responsible for the scandal. ….
… “Top executives retired with multimillion-dollar bonuses based on the misrepresentation of the bank’s balance sheet,” he wrote in an opinion piece for the Financial Times.
Meanwhile, rank-and-file employees were losing their jobs.
Ben-Artzi said a “revolving door” between the bank and the SEC helped top managers escape punishment. ….
….”I will not join the looting of the very people I was hired to protect,” he wrote. “I never intended to turn a job in risk management into a crusade.” ….”
Apneaman on Fri, 19th Aug 2016 3:21 pm
shit4brains, it’s no revelation – just to you who is running around like a chicken with it’s head cut off thinking you are enlightening the world with your fringe lunatic ravings. No one around here ever said that to liberate was the main reason although it was undoubtedly one of the results and many naive young Canadian & American boys signed up willingly for just that reason. In the US many more were drafted and thus forced. Fact remains is that your granny would have been sucking Nazi cock for many more years if not for those boys. Got that you little fucking cockroach?
Cloggie on Fri, 19th Aug 2016 4:29 pm
“No one around here ever said that to liberate was the main reason although it was undoubtedly one of the results and many naive young Canadian & American boys signed up willingly for just that reason.”
Wow, are you sure you want to make these confessions?
OK, so liberation was never “the main reason” (In reality it was never any motive whatsoever).
So what was the main reason? Conquest, what else. On whose behalf?
Shall I help our little nihilistic North-American, who can hardly carry his own weight?
https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/judea_declares_war_on_germany.jpg
Nazi cock?
The disciplined Germans (and the British) were the only ones who did not engage in rape, unlike Soviets and Anglos, the latter who raped in far greater numbers than previously known, due to media propaganda cover up.
You seriously think I could be touched by these “naiv” boys with their trouwsers on their ankles, ruining the greatest civilization ever on behalf of the most criminal race that ever lived?
https://www.amazon.de/Als-die-Soldaten-kamen-Vergewaltigung/dp/3421046336
ghung on Fri, 19th Aug 2016 6:05 pm
Cloggie said ;“The disciplined Germans (and the British) were the only ones who did not engage in rape,…”
Apnea didn’t mention rape, Cloggoid. More like Grandma ‘providing aid and comfort’ to the master race, eh? Make love, not war and all that. No greater form of compliance than guzzling the conqueror’s goo and having their bastard children.
Cloggie on Fri, 19th Aug 2016 6:52 pm
For hundred years you folks have done nothing but guzzling kosher goo and you have let your civilization going down the drain because you let them lord over you and let morph every city into a third world hell hole. How compliant is that, I am asking you. Master race you ain’t. Now every father has to pray that possom daughter won’t come home with Leroy just because daddy refused to fund the latest iPhone.
And now ghung admits himself in panic that “we are losing WW3”. At least you got that right pall. Maybe you should contemplate the consequences of that factoid and play nice with those who are going to be your overlords again soo.
Five centuries America, three as European colony, one century independent (thanks only to continental Europe) and one century as a Zionist colony. And soon a European … um … “junior partner”. If you are lucky. Alternatively the Gulag, run by BLM and Apneaman goons (“shoot first, ask questions later”).
Oh my, Moscow just released Auschwitz figures:
https://www.darkmoon.me/2016/official-german-records-of-prisoners-in-auschwitz-concentration-camp-from-may-1940-to-december-1944/
Of course a few thousand only, not 1.5 million. Interesting are the figures for the Hungarian Jews, not 450k but something like 20k transported for labor.
Putin knows everything about what really happened. You would be well advised to suck orthodox cock, otherwise he could spill the beans and make you really look bad. He will do it anyway in exchange for becoming “embedded” in Europe.
https://youtu.be/9gvbS09gN80
Putin at [16:30] – who in 2014, after Euromaidan and Crimea still expresses that there is going to be a Gaullist European Confederation, including Russia.
Oh wait, he already began to spil the beans:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/5445161/Russia-accuses-Poland-of-starting-Second-World-War.html
Already figured out who did 9/11, gjung?
ghung: “Well uh… um… uh.. yeah…um… Bush and king Abdallah explaining everything… uh …. I’m out of here, see ya!”.LOL
It is game over ghung, but you already know that.
ghung on Fri, 19th Aug 2016 11:00 pm
Game over? Not even close, as much as you need it to be.
Cloggie on Sat, 20th Aug 2016 4:10 am
ghung started a thread:
http://peakoil.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=72761
Title: “World War III is well and truly underway. And we are losing.”
Or “game over”
His words, not mine.
Most posters here are leftist internationalists.
Wanna meet a Trump voter?
https://youtu.be/LBOTk00eMT4
It is enough to watch [3:48 – 12:40] to know that the end of America is near… because the white (still) majority has enough of the cuntry. They want to see the country split up.
And we right-wingers in Europe begin to smell the opportunity to drive a wedge between the Trump voters and the Clintonites and finally get rid of the overlord and end the embarrassing sitution of a Mother Civilization being colonized by a former colony, just because this former colony hooked up with the largest criminal the world has ever seen, the USSR.
Come home, European America… in the arms of Mother Europa.
Boat on Sat, 20th Aug 2016 5:10 am
ghung on Fri, 19th Aug 2016 3:06 pm
Great story.
ghung on Sat, 20th Aug 2016 9:57 am
In his need to be dishonest and superior, once again Cloggie attributes something to me that I didn’t say. Lying sack of shit he is. Says a lot about his actual confidence level. He may convince himself that his is the superior race, and all that, but I for one don’t think he really believes it. That thread about losing the war isn’t about “game over”. Nature isn’t done kicking our asses yet; not by a long shot, but Cloggie has been ignoring the gist of that thread since post 1. Indeed, the likelihood that his beloved country will lose it’s battle with the sea grows every day by the millimeter; something his fragile mentality refuses to entertain.
Nature will kick Cloggie’s ass just as it will the rest of us. It’ll be funny when the warm Atlantic currents no longer reach his swamp of a country and he won’t have his little internet pedestal to log in on as Hans Brinker or some other faux-Dutch persona..
King Arthur has no clothes.