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It’s No Wonder Iranians Hate America
“Everyone wants to go to Baghdad. Real men want to go to Tehran.” So a senior British official was quoted as saying to Newsweek in 2002, witnessing the competitive bellicosity in the Bush administration’s runup to the war in Iraq.
This week President Donald Trump asserted his claim to be a real man as he tore up the nuclear deal with Iran. But he has inadvertently accelerated rather than delayed an inevitable process: the emergence of Iran as a major geopolitical and scientific power in a world that is no longer shaped exclusively by European and American interests.
Trump’s understanding of what he has done, a few weeks after triggering a trade war with China, is necessarily limited. He belongs to a generation of American men who, already scarred by defeat in Vietnam and oil shocks of the 1970s, felt utterly humiliated by the Iranian revolutionaries who kept Americans hostages for more than a year.
But then most who fantasize about regime change in countries they know little about never quite got decolonization: the central event of the 20th century, in which Western empires were overthrown and a majority of the world’s population assumed its right to dignity and equality in sovereign nation-states.
These Western interventionists don’t grasp why Iran came very late to decolonization, and then with a volcanic anti-Western eruption. For decades Iranians were victims of the Cold War, when the Soviet Union and the U.S. inflicted puppet regimes on many nation-states in Asia and Africa. Iran did have its own nationalist upsurge, which built up throughout Western and Soviet occupation of the country during World War II. But it was brutally suppressed by a CIA-backed coup in 1953 that deposed the country’s democratically elected leader and empowered the despotic Shah of Iran.
The tens of thousands of Americans who once lived in Tehran – some as advisers to the Shah’s notorious executioners and torturers in the secret police – may have occasionally felt the visceral hostility in the country to the Shah and his American enablers.
But they were not helped by “obtusely establishment editors,” as Kennett Love, the New York Times correspondent in Tehran, called his bosses, who like most American newspaper editors couldn’t look past the Shah’s pharaonic modernization projects to his brutality and foolishness.
Such naivete and ignorance explains why, when they finally erupted in 1979, anti-American passions shocked policymakers and opinion-formers in the U.S.
Frustrated “real men” then took to assisting Saddam Hussein in his vicious assault on Iran, which entrenched the Islamic revolutionaries in power in Tehran. They trampled upon the few shoots of liberal reform in Iran in the early 2000s, insisting on the country’s inclusion in President George W. Bush’s “axis of evil.” It is no surprise that their stampede into Baghdad helped turn Iraq into an Iranian client state.
Needless to add, during all these years of unrelentingly belligerent and incompetent American policy, Iranian nationalism osmotically grew, along with Iran’s sphere of influence in the region.
Today, that influence continues despite the economic pain caused by Western sanctions, and the commitment to self-strengthening crosses deep political divisions: It’s worth remembering that the imprisoned reform Green Movement leader, Mir Hossein Mousavi, accused the fanatically anti-West Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of “betraying” Iranian nuclear interests.
President Barack Obama tried to repair some of the damage inflicted by his inept predecessors. His nuclear deal was meant to prevent Iran from blithely scoring in open goals across the Middle East. It aimed to maintain Israel’s nuclear monopoly in the region, and to mollify Saudi Arabia’s nervous rulers.
But there was always something absurd about the American expectation that Iran should recuse itself from the proxy wars of the Middle East – that it should let its Arab rivals, for instance, decide the fate of Syria and Yemen.
Trump is now trying his hand at an old and obsessive American venture in the Middle East: bringing Iran to heel. The Iranian economy will undoubtedly suffer from his sanctions. But Europeans may step in; Iran’s close economic and political relationship with China and India can only be further strengthened. And a country that has made the fastest progress in science despite international isolation is unlikely to roll over.
U.S. sanctions deterred neither India nor Pakistan from building their nuclear capacity. In any case, the gambit of increasing the threshold of economic pain to bring about desired political change is always counter-productive. Take, for instance, Malaysia’s Mahathir Mohamad, whose only match in virulent anti-American and anti-Israel rhetoric was Ahmadinejad. Mahathir defied American pressures, which included Vice President Al Gore openly urging Malaysians to oust him, all through the devastating East Asian financial crisis in the late 1990s.
This week he is back in power at the age of 92 – yet another proof of a geopolitical reality that is rapidly becoming less and less amenable to American control. The chief impulse behind decolonization – the need for sovereignty and dignity – has led to the emergence of one new assertive power after another: China, India, Turkey, Iran.
Understandably, some powerful Americans can’t adjust to this world, where they don’t feel important enough anymore. And so they petulantly tear up treaties. But it is clear that, whether going to Baghdad, Tehran or Beijing, they are more likely than ever to go nowhere.
78 Comments on "It’s No Wonder Iranians Hate America"
Duncan Idaho on Fri, 11th May 2018 8:52 am
One more time:
Iran holds the trump cards——
Davy on Fri, 11th May 2018 9:09 am
Sure Idaho, more like Iran is staring at lots of difficulties. Their war machine is overextended. Their population restless. Now they have economic difficulties to look forward too. Those are some cards.
joe on Fri, 11th May 2018 9:55 am
Davy, we live in an age where people buy things for pennies from apps like alibaba. Iran won’t suffer economic collapse because it cant sell oil, it’s just that all those pro-western young people will blame Trump for tearing up a deal that the USA signed. It was a deal with a term limit of 7 years (cause muslims can’t make treaties with kafir countries longer than 7 years), Trump could have done nothing and the deal would have expired anyway. Instead he broke a deal that was working. Soon the Saudis will announce that they want nukes in case Iran gets them. How sage will Israel be then?
joe on Fri, 11th May 2018 10:34 am
Yankee, go home!
‘https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-11/merkel-says-trump-s-iran-pullout-harms-trust-in-global-order’
The comments dovetail with Merkel’s conclusion that the U.S.’s leading role in the post-World War II order is becoming fragile and that Europe must forge its own path. In a speech Thursday honoring French President Emmanuel Macron, she said Europe can no longer count on the U.S. for military protection and must “take its destiny into its own hands.”
Go Speed Racer on Fri, 11th May 2018 11:02 am
HEY EVERYBODY, put a quarter in the jukebox!
Push F-16, and enjoy!!
https://youtu.be/vZwDL3-Ze4w
Another version….
https://youtu.be/97Nvc4znt1o
Davy on Fri, 11th May 2018 11:08 am
“Davy, we live in an age where people buy things for pennies from apps like alibaba.”
duh
“Iran won’t suffer economic collapse because it cant sell oil”
Oil is not the only variable and who says they have to crash. I said difficulties not collapse. You extremist always put words in peoples mouths.
“Instead he broke a deal that was working.”
If Iran wants to pursue its current interest in the ME which are expansionary then do you think a deal like this was going to work very long? NO. BTW, Iranians have every right to pursue their interest because everyone else is but there are always consequences for actions. This situation is no different.
Davy on Fri, 11th May 2018 11:09 am
“In a speech Thursday honoring French President Emmanuel Macron, she said Europe can no longer count on the U.S. for military protection and must “take its destiny into its own hands.”
Good for them now enough of the talk and start doing something. You see the Eurotards are always talking and rarely do anything.
Kor Caspiani on Fri, 11th May 2018 1:06 pm
Well-written article. However, majority of Iranians do not hate America! Ironically, the populations of regimes with friendly relations with the American government, such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt truly despise America. Iranians mainly hate their own government. Nonetheless, Mr.Trump tearing up the Nuclear Agreement over night accomplished what the Iranian regime has tried for four decades. Not trusting America! Average Iranians now can see a nation that discards peace treaties has no honor! Iran will survive and ultimately succeed this to become a major power. Iranians only hope to have a government that represents them with dignity and honor on the world stage.
DerHundistlos on Fri, 11th May 2018 7:52 pm
My Dad died from cancer so for the Trump administration to speak so horribly about an American hero battling brain cancer-John McCain- goes beyond anything I ever remember in American politics. And as someone who travels outside the US, Trump has done unimaginable damage to America’s standing in the world. During my last trip to Colombia, I spoke with a Colombian veteran of the Korean War. Colombia, at the request of the US, sent a large contingent of four battalions to Korea consisting of their toughest soldiers. They suffered high casualties due to their constant combat deployment, and the entire unit was awarded America’s highest decoration for despite being grossly outnumbered, the Colombian units volunteered to go behind enemy lines to save trapped American soldiers. Well, when Trump referred to Colombia, as well as other nations, as a “shit hole countries” this vet was rightfully very angry and he read me the riot act. What could I say except I am sorry and Trump does not represent the majority of Americans.
“Despite battling brain cancer with a dire prognosis, Sen. John McCain is not being treated with much respect by some of his political opponents. A White House official mocked Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and his battle with the deadly disease during a meeting Thursday, The Hill reported. And earlier a guest on Fox News Business implied that McCain, “betrayed U.S. secrets when he was tortured as a prisoner of war”. “It doesn’t matter, he’s dying anyway,” press aide Kelly Sadler said about McCain’s opposition to CIA nominee Gina Haspel at a meeting of White House communications staffers, according to an unnamed source cited by The Hill’s Jordan Fabian.”
MASTERMIND on Fri, 11th May 2018 8:09 pm
DerHundistlos
The only reason Trump won was because the elites hacked the election totals because they want endless wars, and their taxes cut..
MASTERMIND on Fri, 11th May 2018 8:25 pm
Americans are more anxious than before
Americans are becoming more anxious about their safety, health, finances, politics and relationships, a new online poll from the American Psychiatric Association finds. Compared to the results of a similar poll a year earlier, 39 percent of adults in the U.S. are more anxious today than they were a year ago.
https://theconversation.com/americans-are-more-anxious-than-before-96318
Davy on Sat, 12th May 2018 12:54 am
“American hero battling brain cancer-John McCain- goes beyond anything I ever remember in American politics.
McCain is an American lunatic who has gotten the US into proxy conflicts we would have been wise to avoid. But you don’t see that do you.
“Well, when Trump referred to Colombia, as well as other nations, as a “shit hole countries”
Get out of here liar. Where is your reference?
makati1 on Sat, 12th May 2018 12:58 am
If McCain is truly in severe pain, I hope he lasts a long time and there is no relief. Hell would be too good for him. He deserves to suffer.
Cloggie on Sat, 12th May 2018 3:15 am
HEY EVERYBODY, put a quarter in the jukebox!
Push F-16, and enjoy!!
https://youtu.be/vZwDL3-Ze4w
Another version….
https://youtu.be/97Nvc4znt1o
Creeps with gay high-pitched voices. Gloating about mass-murder and making a song about it. No other nation does that.
But these slow moving B52 bombers won’t be a match for Russian and Chinese super-sonic missiles, fired by Iranians and neither will be the US fleet in the Gulf. And once the US protector of the “House of Saud” will be belly up in the Gulf, the “House of Saud” will fall with it and the Saudi loot will be divided between Iran and Turkey.
A full scale attack by the US against Iran will eventually mean WW3, the US against the rest of the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkUK2k7Ffy0
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/editorial-trump-deals-painful-blow-to-trans-atlantic-ties-a-1207260.html
Eurasia should prepare for it and see it through and in the end divide the Anglo loot, playing into American white nationalism:
http://tinyurl.com/y8ydx6a9
The American Era is over.
Future music (press 3M22):
Mexico:
Demi Levato:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJGUbwVMBeA
Mississippi Basin:
Anastacia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x67trYfuzV0
Nazi Barbie Taylor Swift:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xg3vE8Ie_E
Jewish owned East Coast [*]:
Pink:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuAH21DkJow
[*] – in Europe also known as “Flyover Country”
DerHundistlos on Sat, 12th May 2018 3:52 am
Exceptionalist Davy:
Get a life troll.
Trump’s “shit hole countries” remark is well known, but since you like to grandstand feigning shock and outrage, here’s a link from CNN.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/11/politics/immigrants-shithole-countries-trump/index.html
Cloggie on Sat, 12th May 2018 4:27 am
As fas as I remember did the Trumpert say that he wanted immigrants from Norway (not going to happen), not from “shit hole countries”. Maybe I missed something but he never directly called countries “shit hole countries” in public.
Behind “closed doors” he did refer to “El Salvador, Haiti and certain African nations” as SH-countries.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/11/trump-pans-immigration-proposal-as-bringing-people-from-shithole-countries
Theedrich on Sat, 12th May 2018 5:43 am
The Sörös-led primal scream therapy of the Left is having its effect: Trump is being driven both by the sinistral Demonics and the IsItReal Right to threaten Iran with nuclear annihilation. In doing so, he is merely following American international policy since 1945: point a nuke gun at everyone and make them surrender.
But the Iranians, it appears, are not so ready to give in. Not even with the constant assassinations perpetrated on their scientists and officials by the Yids. The Persians are not intimidated but infuriated by Heeb criminality. They have a much higher educational level than the Saudis, and have always had a superior culture, going back to before the time of Cyrus (Kurósh) the Great (the first “Messiah” mentioned in the Bible, Isaiah 45:1). Interestingly, the name “Iran” is actually the modern form of the ancient ethnic name “Aryan.” And oddly, Iranian Shia is almost a kind of cross between Islam and Catholic Christianity. It is not the primitive Sunni form of Mohammedanism that transfixes the moneyed stooges of Saudi Arabia and other MENA countries.
If the State Department, CIA, the Joint Chiefs and other warmongering parts of the DeepState manage to propel the U.S. into a “surgical strike” against Teheran, the result may be something that not even Netanyahu can forsee. From a tiny acorn a mighty oak doth grow. For Iran is not the banana republic the historically amnesiac Swamplings imagine it is.
Davy on Sat, 12th May 2018 6:08 am
“Trump’s “shit hole countries” remark is well known, but since you like to grandstand feigning shock and outrage, here’s a link from CNN.”
Der dumbass, did he specifically mention Columbia? No, so quit being stupid. Question: where are your car keys? Next: do you know what car keys are for? Dementia is a nasty condition.
Go Speed Racer on Sat, 12th May 2018 6:46 am
Clogster,
I think when Trump was referring to
“shit hole countries”, he only meant
the phrase only applied to the countries
that ARE “shit hole countries” so no
wrong doing on that one.
Careful with insulting Taylor Swift,
that’s my girlfriend you’re talking about
we’re very close, almost engaged, so keep
it polite. We’ll do the same 4 U.
Best wishes to Holland! My sister
Trixie says hi.
https://fictionmachine.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/speedracer08.jpg
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 7:27 am
Theedrich
The left doesn’t want war with Iran. They wanted trump to stay in the nuclear deal. you dumbshit. The left is and has always been the anti war party. Its you dumbshits on the right that are obsessed with war. And what the hell does soros have to do with this? His is a 90 year old man? You are a paranoid loon.
Go Speed Racer on Sat, 12th May 2018 7:55 am
Ya know Clogster, don’t be so “down” on the
Bpmb Iran song.
So I think the real problem, is U need a
hamburger & fries to go with the song.
Here ya go:
https://pixabay.com/en/chevy-classic-car-drive-in-movie-1734754/
Then U could sing along happily,
munching your burger & fries, without
getting all upset about the message.
Cause who cares where the bombs land.
Maybe on a hospital.
https://www.iraqinews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Archival-photo-64.jpg
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 8:02 am
Richard Dawkins says England is becoming a ‘nasty little backwater’
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/richard-dawkings-england-nasty-little-backwater-brexit-uk-britain-scientists-racism-a7655136.html
Cloggie on Sat, 12th May 2018 9:07 am
Careful with insulting Taylor Swift,
that’s my girlfriend you’re talking about
we’re very close, almost engaged, so keep
it polite. We’ll do the same 4 U.
Where did I insult Taylor Swift??!!
I’m being called a Nazi 24/7 here [*], a description I carry as a badge of honor, just to sex up my uneventful life as a programmer. Taylor is my Nazi sister.lol!
The description “Nazi Barbie” comes from an ugly lesbo “feminist” (but I repeat myself) named Camilla Paglia…
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/dec/11/taylor-swift-an-obnoxious-nazi-barbie-writes-camille-paglia
…whom I fancied in the nineties, when I was still a no-nonsense liberal US-oriented yuppie, and appreciated that Paglia at least skipped the usual feminist man-hating (but quietly replaced it with a condescending attitude regarding men as “useful plumbers”).
Taylor Swift is called a Nazi Barbie, because she refused to say whom she voted for, from which libtards (probably correctly) deduced she must have voted for The Evil One.
[*] – I am not really a “Nazi”, is a rather meaningless description in 2018, preferably used as a demonisation term by people with extremely little understanding of history (Meathead comes to mind). German National Socialism was about 2 things only:
1. prevent “Jewish communism” from taking over Germany as had happened to Russia after 1917 with millions of people killed
2. Rollback Versailles Treaty and recapture German lands taken from Germany
Both are completely meaningless in the Dutch context of 2018. I am not even an authoritarian nationalist, but a pan-European.
In reality I am a hard-core neo-Gaullist, who believes in the resurrection of continental Europe (together with Putin-Russia) and eclipsing the United States in the process and at the same time attracting fashy US “deplorable” white nationalist types (Taylor Swift?)…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9xHhbG3wvk
…in order to get rid of ZOG once and for all.
Cloggie on Sat, 12th May 2018 9:15 am
Richard Dawkins says England is becoming a ‘nasty little backwater’
Although I sympathize with Dawkins, for continental Europe, Brexit is a Godsend. We are “losing” the after Sweden most political correct country in Europe, paving the way for Russia and Paris-Berlin-Moscow.
With a little luck we are going to have a hard Brexit, one with no agreement at all and only angry faces, which would create the excuse for Scotland to unilaterally cancel the United Kingdom as well. Scotland rejected Brexit 62-38%.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 9:21 am
Conservatives Big on Fear, Brain Study Finds
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/201104/conservatives-big-fear-brain-study-finds
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 9:25 am
Clogg
Even the UK government conlcuded they would be worse off in every way from Brexxit…The economist predicted they are going to become a third world country..The right wing politicians who pushed it just wanted to gain power for themselves. When Brexxit passed wall street crashed by 1000 points. But I am sure a neckbeard who listens to alex jones like you, knows more than they do….
Davy on Sat, 12th May 2018 9:33 am
“Conservatives Big on Fear, Brain Study Finds”
nonsense, you sound like the board nazi and his fake racism claims
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 9:40 am
Davy
Saying nonsense for no reason and shouting insults is not an argument to refute the study I posted. Arguments are based on their merits.
Davy on Sat, 12th May 2018 9:43 am
I say it a lot here because there are too many people like you who talk out their ass. Shouting insults is something you do regularly hypocrite. No need to refute stupid besides stay on topic dope.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 10:00 am
Davy
Saying something is nonsense. Doesn’t make it true. You need to cite some evidence ie reason to refute something. Maybe you should leave the science to experts and stick to farming. And when society collapses you can just sing Koombaya and thump and drum! LOL
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 10:13 am
Clogg
When society collapses! Taylor Swift will be bending over and taking that zombie dick! And I bet she moans like a whore when they fuck her!
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 10:52 am
Cloog…This nails you! LOL
https://imgur.com/a/H81Q4dU
It’s your fault white chicks don’t want to have your tubby obese, non athletic babies.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 10:54 am
The alt right in a nutshell
https://imgur.com/a/H81Q4dU
Davy on Sat, 12th May 2018 10:56 am
Mm, saying something is nonsense in your case is saying someone like you does not deserve respect nor anything that contributes to your self-esteem. You post off topic junk too often and empty links you don’t understand. Maybe you should get back in school and try to finish then get a job. I did that and now I have the luxury of telling you that you are a stupid loud mouth kid. You need you ass kicked. It will happen just be patient then maybe you will learn something through humility.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 11:01 am
Davy
What does an empty link mean? You are to terrified to open a link.. You must have a V on your drivers license that stands for Vagina. LOL You are like a flat earther..
Davy on Sat, 12th May 2018 11:13 am
You know what it means because we have had this discussion before. Quit playing stupid. Show some sophistication. Show you have a brain. I just can’t imagine you being a PHD. That is a crock of shit.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 11:31 am
Davy
I don’t know what it means because you never explained it. Just like you won’t explain it now. its obviously just a way of you discrediting something for no reason. just admit it you are to scared you are to frightened. Science scares you..lol I am done arguing with you though, i know you will just go and Mark twain it all up anyways..
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 11:36 am
WMD Old and New Primed for Next Financial Crisis
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-05-09/wmd-old-and-new-primed-for-a-market-meltdown
Cloggie on Sat, 12th May 2018 11:51 am
“The left doesn’t want war with Iran. They wanted trump to stay in the nuclear deal. you dumbshit. The left is and has always been the anti war party. Its you dumbshits on the right that are obsessed with war. And what the hell does soros have to do with this? His is a 90 year old man? You are a paranoid loon.”
The left or right (those in Congress) do NOT decide on war. It is the neocon deep state that decides. “Under Obama” the war in Syria was initiated and “under Wilson” and “under Roosevelt”, both Dems, WW1 and WW2 US participation happened.
Davy on Sat, 12th May 2018 12:29 pm
mm an empty link is what it sounds like. It is when people like you and neder make statements and put a link after it like that is what you meant. The link represents an article that has many points. Try taking the part of the article that is relevant and showing it after the link instead of showing an empty unsupported link. How hard is that to understand? This is Pretty obvious except to someone who is intellectually lazy.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 12:55 pm
Davy
An empty link is what it sounds like? WTF? You don’t even make any sense…I am done arguing with an old crusty, uneducated farmer. Who post nothing but zerohedge articles and fringe conspiracy sites…Get an education from somewhere davy. Open your eyes and your mind. Bigotry is not something to be proud of. Either is farming and being a country bumpkin…lol
Davy on Sat, 12th May 2018 1:09 pm
Mm, obviously, I put your intellectually lazy ass on the spot. If you properly link with appropriate references from the article this will require you to think which from your nickname, millimind; says it all. This will require you to post far less junk if you want to be proper. If you continue to be improper, oops, no respectability. You are not a PHD, don’t have a masters, and likely haven’t finished your undergraduate. FRAUD
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 1:54 pm
Davy
I post scholarly sources and mainstream sources only. You post from zerohedge and shout in all capital letters…its obvious who is the educated adult here. If you want some respect than you need to earn it. and you could start by using reliable sources instead of Russian propaganda.
Davy on Sat, 12th May 2018 2:19 pm
I don’t need respect so don’t worry about that. I am here to keep people like you honest. You post junk parading as sources. You redundantly post and you post off topic. You name call and attack and then act like you don’t. I admit I do why do you act like you don’t? You and others whine about he name calling and attacks as you disrespect people with rude and nasty comments. What is the difference? You comment way too much. I comment a lot too but mainly when assholes like you need moderation. So you can act educated but you are not. You are a stupid kid parading as an academic.
Cloggie on Sat, 12th May 2018 2:30 pm
the central event of the 20th century, in which Western empires were overthrown and a majority of the world’s population assumed its right to dignity and equality in sovereign nation-states.
Yep, courtesy USA. And next the poor formerly colonized, rather than enjoy their “freedom in dignity”, embark on desperate efforts to make it to white lands to be with their former white masters again.
You need a new text writer, Bloomberg.
For the rest, surprisingly honest article from the former backers of the NWO, who were one of the first to openly admit that their 100 year old project of world empire was destined to fail:
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-09-27/america-s-new-world-order-is-officially-dead
Bloomberg has abolished the NWO idea and doesn’t believe that a new adventure will bring anything good for the US.
Trump maybe a buffoon but he is not stupid. With his America First policy he has also given up on US empire, so why this Iran adventure?
I may be wrong but the only reason I can think of is that he intentionally is targeting the power structure in the US itself (“deep state”) in enforcing a break-up of the country, the goal of white nationalists, by throwing the country in a large foreign war and as such provoking a large insurrection in the US itself.
Anonymouse1 on Sat, 12th May 2018 3:15 pm
These ‘arguments’ you keep having with your sock are getting a little weird exceptionalturd. Don’t you think you are overdoing things, just a ..little? Everyone knows your socking, so, isnt having these ‘fights’ of yours laying it on a little thick?
Maybe you should put down the internet and go outside, ‘both’ of you.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 3:47 pm
Denialism is another form of insanity that is prevalent these days. There are numerous people who haunt this site to try and refute any claim that Collapse is actually in progress. They are obviously fully aware of it, but the coping mechanism here is just to deny every piece of evidence that becomes manifest. Their screams of denial sound like the squealing of a pig beginning delivered to the butchers shop. The volume of their protestations being directly proportional to the proximity of their inevitable fate..
onlooker on Sat, 12th May 2018 3:55 pm
you got that right MM. It has already been uncovered by science that denial is a evolutionary coping mechanism. Meaning it helped us survive and thrive. Now it seems it will spell out total Doom. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8583959
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 3:56 pm
Davy
I post numerous scholarly studies. I post numerous economic articles from reliable mainstream sources. I post numerous quotes from intellectuals. I post numerous quotes from books I read…
You post 3000 word, word salad rants. And numerous zerohedge articles..
I rest my case…
MASTERMIND on Sat, 12th May 2018 4:05 pm
Onlooker
Thanks for that link. And yes we are headed for total extinction in the next decade. It wont be pretty..
https://imgur.com/a/pYxKa