Peak Oil is You
Donate Bitcoins ;-) or Paypal :-)
Page added on September 26, 2015
Israel’s Opposition to the Nuclear Treaty with Iran
Relations between Iran and Israel go back almost to the foundation of the State of Israel in 1948. Iran was the second Muslim-majority country to recognize Israel as a sovereign state, following Turkey, and the two countries had very close diplomatic and even military cooperation for many decades.
After the 1953 coup, which restored the Shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, to power, relations improved further, and Israel and the CIA played a significant role in establishing the dreaded SAVAK, Iran’s intelligence organization, and training its personnel. Also, after the Six-Day War in 1967, Iran supplied Israel with a significant portion of its oil needs.
However, after the 1979 revolution, Iran severed all diplomatic and commercial ties with Israel. The Islamic government does not recognize the legitimacy of Israel as a state, but despite hostile revolutionary rhetoric against Israel, relations between the two countries have not always been too acrimonious. Indeed, during the Iran-Iraq war, in order to prevent Saddam Hussein’s victory, Israel joined the mission to Iran under U.S. President Ronald Reagan and even provided Iran with some weapons in what later on came to be known as the Iran-Contra Affair.
Iranian funding of groups like Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and Hamas, which Israel regards as terrorist organizations, and Israeli support for terrorist groups such as the Mojahedin-e Khalq Organization, the Jundullah, a militant terrorist organization based in Baluchestan that has carried out a number of deadly attacks against Iran, as well as Israeli covert operations in Iran, including assassinations and explosions, have intensified animosity between the two countries and have led to a number of tit-for-tat attacks on each other’s citizens.
The turning point from cold peace toward hostility occurred in the early 1990s, shortly after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the defeat of Iraq in Desert Storm. Before the collapse of the Soviet Union, Israel was regarded as a U.S. bulwark against pro-Soviet Arab governments.
With the collapse of the Soviet Union, Israel could no longer continue to play that role. The removal of Saddam Hussein also removed a formidable enemy. Therefore, Israel directed all its attacks against a new enemy, namely Iran.
So, it is not a mere coincidence that Israel’s intense opposition to Iran’s nuclear program coincided with the collapse of the former Soviet Union and the removal of the threat from Iraq. Although Iran’s nuclear program had developed under the late Shah with active Israeli, South African and U.S. participation, after the revolution, when Iran tried to revive her program, Israel became its most vociferous opponent. Under the Iranian reformist government of President Mohammad Khatami there were some moves for a rapprochement with the West, including the recognition of Israel, but the George W. Bush Administration rebuffed those offers.
Meanwhile, the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has been continuously warning that Iran is on the verge of manufacturing a nuclear weapon and posing an “existential threat” to Israel. As early as 1992, he predicted that Iran would be able to produce a nuclear weapon within three to five years. In 1993, he claimed that Iran would have a nuclear bomb by 1999.This has been his constant refrain ever since the early 1990s and right up to the present time.
The interesting point is that the current and some former heads of Israel’s intelligence agency Mossad have contradicted Netanyahu’s claims. They maintain that there has been no indication that Iran is moving towards the acquisition of nuclear weapons or poses an existential threat to Israel.
It is important to remember that Netanyahu has not only tried to incite war against Iran, he even made the same false claims prior to the Iraq war in 2003.
Therefore, the propaganda against the Iraqi and Iranian alleged nuclear weapons have had less to do with the existence of such weapons and more to do with the perception that those two countries were hostile to Israel and had to be attacked in order to bring about a regime change.
It should be stressed that Netanyahu’s views in no way represent the views of the majority of American Jews who are on the whole liberal and peace loving. Indeed, poll after poll has shown that the support for the nuclear deal with Iran is stronger among American Jews than among the population at large.
Netanyahu’s attempts to kill the deal with Iran have been futile and counterproductive. His intrusion into American domestic politics, and his cynical use of the U.S. Congress to undercut a major foreign policy achievement, have been acts of gross discourtesy to the president and to the American people, and a violation of diplomatic protocol.
The real reason for Israeli opposition to Iran’s nuclear program has been the fear of becoming irrelevant in the eyes of the U.S. administration as far as the Middle East is concerned. Iran’s alleged nuclear bomb also been used as an excuse to divert attention from Israel’s own nuclear arsenal and illegal expansion into occupied Palestinian territories.
Instead of continuing with this campaign of vilification and inciting a military attack on Iran, it would be wiser for Israel to try to reach a settlement with the Palestinians and pave the way for peaceful coexistence with regional countries, including Iran. The emergence of terrorist organizations that pose a serious threat to the entire world should bring Iran and Israel closer to fight that dangerous menace. The two countries should tone down their ugly rhetoric and violent activities against each other, and realize that dialogue and compromise always produce better results than war and bloodshed.
Meanwhile, it is time to focus on Israel’s nuclear weapons and establish a nuclear-free zone in the Middle East.
The views expressed in this article are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of, and should not be attributed to, IPS – Inter Press Service.
Farhang Jahanpour is a former professor and dean of the Faculty of Foreign Languages at the University of Isfahan and a former Senior Research Fellow at Harvard University. He is a tutor in the Department of Continuing Education and a member of Kellogg College, University of Oxford. This is the eighth of a series of 10 articles in which Jahanpour looks at various aspects and implications of the framework agreement on Iran’s nuclear programme that was reached in July 2015 between Iran and the United States, United Kingdom, Russia, France, China and Germany, plus the European Union.
59 Comments on "Israel’s Opposition to the Nuclear Treaty with Iran"
makati1 on Sat, 26th Sep 2015 9:30 pm
It was a huge mistake to give the Jews land anywhere. But then the Jews ran the Western world in those days. Still do.
Boat on Sat, 26th Sep 2015 9:31 pm
The two countries should tone down their ugly rhetoric and violent activities against each other, and realize that dialogue and compromise always produce better results than war and bloodshed.
Exactly, and no deal should have been made with Iran because of that. The US should make all aid to Israel contingent on having no nuclear weapons either along with inspections. Israel should also retract illegal expansion into occupied Palestinian territories.
Any alleged aggression needs to be handled by Russia, China, Japan, Europe etc. diplomatically. Tit for tat just won’t work anymore. It is a global world now. Get used to it.
Plantagenet on Sat, 26th Sep 2015 9:53 pm
Poor Makati—-he turned out to be just another delusional anti-semite.
Cheers!
DAVID on Sat, 26th Sep 2015 10:51 pm
Anti-Israel does not mean Anti-Semite.
yacov on Sat, 26th Sep 2015 11:00 pm
Stop blaming Israel for all Middle East problems. If Israel did not exists,then the situation in the region would be much worse then what is today. Israel in term of having positive influence on interrelation in Arab’s world, it’s not well known and appreciated in the West and especially among those they are anti semi.If was not for Israel, Arab countries by now would be devouring each other.Israel contribute allot for the stability of the region and not the other way. Look what is happening today, The Saudi the arc enemy of Israel become all of sudden friendly to Israel and cooperate with Israel on defense from Iranian threat.On the other hand Israel -Palestinian peace will never bring peace and stability in the region as the author of this article claims. It is intentionally trying to mislead the Western public in order to exert pressure on Israel to give up land to Arabs thus hasten its demise.The war between Israel and Arabs it’s not about land, It’s religious war. Arabs can’t except Jewish State in their midst on religious ground. Old talk about compromising is Western concept can be applied only among Western countries not with Arab’s culture.Islam will never compromise its religious demand, therefor I suggest to Western readers do not pay attention to the misleading articles that peace between Israel and the Arab world will be possible. The West has to help Israel to acquire its land including the West Bank and part of Jordan then possibly the Arab world might quit dreaming in defeating Israel.
Peter on Sat, 26th Sep 2015 11:02 pm
May God richly bless Israel and keep her from all harm.
Boat on Sat, 26th Sep 2015 11:10 pm
yacov,
It is intentionally trying to mislead the Western public in order to exert pressure on Israel to give up land to Arabs thus hasten its demise
There will be no Israel demise if they gave up those settlements and their nuclear arms. That is just rhetoric. Israel needs to give up on the idea of a religious war also. All religions should be open and free to operate in Israel. The same across the middle east. This is the new world, this is globalization, get used to it.
Fred on Sat, 26th Sep 2015 11:16 pm
Iranian never forgave Israelis who helped CIA to help Shah to regain his power after escaping from Iran when Mosadegh created his democratic government, the Mosadegh Democratic government was only Iranian Democratic government ever existed in Iran during past century.
Iran under Mosadegh could be today’s Japan, Germany, and any other free country. How Iranian could forgive the Zionist Israelis for their evil acts in Iran’s internal policy.
Jeff C on Sat, 26th Sep 2015 11:18 pm
Well, since the Exodus has proven to be completely fabricated, then the “chosen people” given the choice land are fabricated too. It’s all lies and deceptions for thousands of years.
There may be a real Jewish history, but it’s absolutely not the one the world has been sold.
There is no doubt that the land never did “belong” to them. Like us, they occupied it by killing off those who were already there, the survivors are now (their descendants) living on a tiny strip of land under occupation conditions.
Trust nothing from Israel, certainly none of their machinations to gain favored status, funds or protection.
Anything put into print in today’s media regarding Israel is going to be a far, far cry from the real truth.
dooma on Sat, 26th Sep 2015 11:38 pm
Israel is like those people who move next to an airport and then demand a noise curfew.
azy modares on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 12:06 am
Torah (Jewish holy book) say, Before the Jews, Land belongs to kanaan People and Jews killed all kannan people including women and children and take their land, Jews always in history at wars kill every body including women and children
former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney said, all Senators and House Representatives upon taking office are asked to sign a loyalty pledge to Israel (a freign country) ,’ this should be treason , also another congress woman said on kpfk.org radio,when you Running For election Jewish lobbyist send you a letter that you must singe
Zionists always try to skew anti-Zionism as anti Semitism,
Miko Peled son of famous Israel general said Isreal army is best feed terorist in the world and Israel Has 29 discrimination law
Iranian people suffered for last 90 year by their today fanatic government or England puppet King or in 1953 by USA overthrow Iran government (finally on August 2013 CIA admitted) in 1980s President Regan and Israel help Sadam Hosuin in 8year war,One million Iranian died or injured , is same as Iran help to kill or injured 9 milion American, they use Chemical attack on Iranian people and in tody value arm dealers made 100s of billion From Saudi Arabia (as Saudi finance manager said on US TV),(with afew billions can have millions water wells), als for free Kuwait, NOW you see how evil doers do their evil
Boat on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 12:58 am
History is generally written by the winners. Freedom fighter is another mans word for terrorist. War is generally started by a handful of men on both sides who don’t want to problem solve. And a hungry fish is the first in the frying pan.
Abraham on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 3:27 am
People who haven’t got enough political experience ask themselves why the white Jews in Israel keep on settling down
in Palestinian “reservations”, even against the advice of our only ally USA. The answer, or the answers are so simple. Our plan is to occupy,construct and create settlements as far and as soon as we can. That very efficient method is called in French “fait accompli”. In future, we place the World in front of “fait(s) accompli(s)” against which nobody can do anything.
Envious people say white Jews come mostly from Eastern-Europe. They say that we have nothing to do with Judaism or the Semitic folk of the Middle-East. Even if that’s true, so what ? ?….
We enjoy fully the Mediterranean limate and our welfare financed by the millionaire American Jews or the Evangelists who are our real pals. White Jews are smart. Aren’t we ?
PS: Most US and European politicians and journalists are deep in their heart Jew haters. They are later days Chamberlains.
dn32844 on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 5:58 am
An excellent and very true and honest reporting of the facts. Regretfully, in this country of the U.S. our media only reports what it is paid for, true or fall.
adamc18 on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 6:19 am
An excellent article followed by some scary comments from fanatics. If the elected government of Iran had not been overthrown by the CIA and Israel – and if US and European governments had made Israel stick to the UN plans for an Israeli/Palestinian peace agreement, lots of bad things would not have happened. Among them are 9/11, the Iran/Iraq war, the invasions of Iraq, the invasion of Afghanistan, global ‘terrorism’, Muslim radicalisation and millions of homeless refugees. It is almost certainly the greatest disaster in human history ….so far.
Albert Kaplan on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 6:53 am
What garbage. I tried to read it, but it was impossible. The author is either so very uninformed, it is a wonder he knows what day it is. Or, he is merely a propagandist of Islam/Arabia in their war against Israel and the Jewish people.
albert on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 8:44 am
IS-rael & ISIS-rael, one and the same. This flood of muslim refugees into White CHRISTian Democratic Europe is a repeat of Israel’s actions in 1948 , terror used to depopulate areas that Israel wishes to grab for “Greater Israel” and at the same time to dilute and destroy CHRISTian Europe.
————–
Before the state of Israel was founded, the terrorist underground militias that were to become the Israel “Defense” Forces committed over 100 massacres of civilians. The atrocities intensified in the months leading up to the “declaration of indeperndence”. In March and April 1948 alone over 25 massacres were committed including infamous ones such as Tantura and Deir Yassin. Israeli leaders themselves credited these actions as of great use in getting the Palestinians to evacuate Palestine so that a Jewish state could be established without a demographic “burden” of “non-Jews” (Christains and Muslims). The massacres continued after the war with government ordered slaughters at Kufr Kassem in 1956 (see http://www.taayush.org/new/kas…, and more until the latest slaughter of 1400 in three weeks in Gaza (most of them civilians). This showed that the state of Israel is still addicted to these policies of terror.
“The Zionist version of the Palestinian exodus is a myth manufactured after the cataclysm took place. If the Zionists could show that the refugees had really fled without cause, at the express instructions of their own politicians, they would greatly erode the world’s sympathy for their plight — and, in consequence, the pressure on themselves to allow them to return. Thus in public speeches and scholarly-looking pamphlets they peddled this myth the world over. It was not until 1959 that the Palestinian scholar Walid Khalidi, exposed it for what it is. His painstaking researches were independently corroborated by an Irish scholar, Erskine Childers, two years later. Together, they demonstrated that the myth was not just a gross misrepresentation of accepted or even plausible facts; the very ‘facts’ themselves had been invented. Orders for the evacuation of the civilian population had not simply been issued, the Zionists said, they had been broadcast over Arab radio stations. One had come from the Mufti himself. This was the cornerstone of the Zionist case. Yet when these two scholars took the trouble to examine the record — to go through the specially opened archives of Arab governments, contemporary Arabic newspapers and the radio monitoring reports of both the BBC and the CIA — they found that no such orders had been issued, let alone broadcast, and that when challenged to produce chapter-and-verse evidence, the date and origin of just one such order, the Zionists, with all the apparatus of the State of Israel now at their disposal, were quite unable to do so. They found, on the contrary, that Arab and Palestinian authorities had repeatedly called on the people to stay put and the Arab radio services had consistently belittled the true extent of Zionist atrocities.”
—David Hirst, The Gun and the Olive Branch, Faber, 1977, pp. 136-7.
albert on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 8:45 am
Rabbi cheers muslim INVASION & DESTRUCTION of Europe. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0c3_1441769526#6tdYC2cP7kpD5sAx.99 Like ALL Jews, He is a CHRIST-DENIER ……. DENYING the fact that the Messiah already came.
http://www.darkmoon.me/2015/quotations-in-support-of-white-genocide/
Jewish multicultural plan to destroy Europe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QU7IoDoVX4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ
makati1 on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 8:46 am
Albert, are you Jewish by any chance? LOL
ghung on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 9:07 am
Anyone want to know why I’m not religious? As we see, above, it interferes with clarity in some fairly complete ways. We, the godless minority, are getting really tired of this crap.
bug on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 10:05 am
Well said ghung, your last line is perfect, thanks
JuanP on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 10:11 am
The creation of the state of Israel was one of the worst mistakes made in human history.
ghung on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 10:16 am
Humans’ apparent need for mythological delusion was one of the greatest mistakes of evolution.
Boat on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 10:34 am
Juan,
Good thing everyone is not a raciest like you.
Taking land should be illegal and the international community should sanction Israel for it. This is why the Iran deal is bad. Iran should be continually punished for supporting groups against Israel.
JuanP on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 11:03 am
Boat, Please explain to me how being against the creation of a nation state in stolen land is racist, you frigging ignorant moron!
Boat on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 11:32 am
JuanP,
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/662045/posts
your version?
JuanP on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 12:04 pm
Boat, don’t post no moronic links. I am not going to follow some stupid link. Write down your explanation. A coherent, well reasoned one, you stupid retard. I am still waiting!
onlooker on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 12:11 pm
I read that is was either a US project the state of Israel or in fact more esoteric then that is that the Rothchilds had a hand in it. Wonder which of the two possibilities?
Boat on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 12:12 pm
JuanP.
Racists don’t reason well. There are competing views with your assessment.
JuanP on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 12:36 pm
Boat, still waiting!
GregT on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 1:58 pm
Boat,
Seeing as Juan is the racist one here, I imagine that wouldn’t object to him bringing a few of his kin to live with you in your home town? Say a couple of thousand or so.
GregT on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 2:01 pm
“The creation of the state of Israel was one of the worst mistakes made in human history.”
Billions of people would agree with you Juan.
Boat on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 2:08 pm
GregT,
The US has 60 million foreign born immigrants living here now. Some illegal, some legal. Sustainability is my concern, not where they come from. My neighborhood is very diverse and even in new subdivisions diversity is apparent. Ya’ll need to grow up and mature.
GregT on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 2:19 pm
I’m not racist Boat, I don’t have a problem with immigration. Every single one of us here in North America are immigrants, except for first nations peoples. The US has over 300 million immigrants.
GregT on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 2:24 pm
And also Boat,
Ya’ll? I’m guessing that would be slang for you all? As in; You all need to grow up and mature. If you were referring to me, the last time I checked I was only one person.
GregT on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 2:35 pm
You Boat, sound exactly like what people around the world refer to as an ugly American. You’re (not your) giving decent Americans everywhere, a bad name.
Get your (not you’re) head out of your (not you’re) ass.
ghung on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 2:55 pm
onlooker said: “I read that is was either a US project the state of Israel or in fact more esoteric then that is that the Rothchilds had a hand in it. Wonder which of the two possibilities?”
Much of present day Israel was purchased from the Ottomans by the Rothschilds; not “stolen” from the Palestinians, who didn’t even own much of the land they occupied. They were eventually “evicted”. Some of the Rothschilds weren’t even Zionists, just landlords who preferred Jewish tenants.
Boat on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 3:06 pm
GregT,
Ya’ll is southern for you all. As a Texan you heae that around here. Ya’ll as in you and Jaun P.
If promoting the idea of a diverse population as being good makes me an ugly American, I will be ugly proudly.
makati1 on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 8:16 pm
ghung, you speak of the Rothschilds as being past tense. I think you will find them in the thick of things today as well. Just wealthy enough (trillionaires?) to keep their family and it’s wealth out of sight. And their manipulations under the radar.
Truth Has A Liberal Bias on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 10:39 pm
@Plant
The Jews in Israel are not Semitic. They’re Ashkenazi. If one is antiIsraeli they are antiashkenazi not antisemitic. Try keep up with the modern times you fucking retard.
Truth Has A Liberal Bias on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 10:44 pm
Oh and btw, Israel is a fucking shit hole full of just as many racists and terrorists as all the other shit hole countries in the region. If Iran nuked israel and Israel nuked Iran I couldn’t possibly care less.
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2015/09/25/israeli-mothers-to-be-crave-idf-warrior-sperm/
Truth Has A Liberal Bias on Sun, 27th Sep 2015 11:07 pm
America is a living joke
http://app.debka.com/p/article/24909/A-Chinese-aircraft-carrier-docks-at-Tartus-to-support-Russian-Iranian-military-buildup-
BTW this little move with Iran Russia and China getting behind their local thug Assad really fucks over Israel. I suspect Israel will soon be evacuating the non combatants. The ones with money anyway. The rest can find their own way or die in place. It won’t be long now until little dead Jewish toddlers start washing up on European beaches.
Keith_McClary on Mon, 28th Sep 2015 12:36 am
If you don’t believe that all Jews are born (in NYC, Chicago, Miami or wherever) with a right to “redeem” and “Judaize” Palestine, you are obviously a racist.
JuanP on Mon, 28th Sep 2015 6:11 am
Boat, Thank you for calling me a racist. I feel really proud of it, I consider it the highest honor. What would get me really worried and concerned would be if a stupid ignorant retarded mother pleasuring asshole like you agreed with me or liked me. Then I would have to start wondering where I went wrong. Enjoy your day, son of a whore!
Davy on Mon, 28th Sep 2015 7:09 am
Truth with a Liberal Bias another example of a low life ugly Anti-American. Just so happens he is from Montreal. Why do Canadians hate America when they are so similar? Is it because they hate themselves but it is easier and more palatable to hate the bully south of the boarder?
You ugly anti-Americans think backing the ugly America into a corner is not going to bight you in the ass? Think again, if the US goes down we all go down. The US is too powerful and connected to go down without taking everyone down too. You should at least have some brains to recognize that.
On the subject of Assad, Putin, and the US. I hope Putin and the US find a way to work together. What better mechanism than war for Putin, a megalomaniac war pig, and the US leadership, megalomaniac war pigs, to find common ground. Let’s war together if we can’t get along on those lower human behaviors like economics, social issues, political issues, and basic human compassion. As bad as it is to cooperate on the level of war it is better than war between the US and Russia.
apneaman on Mon, 28th Sep 2015 4:35 pm
Oh goodness Davy, nobody should criticize the empire lest that causes it to collapse and then we will suffer by extension. Getting desperate Davy in your censorship crusade? A regular Joe McCarty Jr. Collapse is a done deal and only the details remain. No Davy the only collapse you are trying to prevent is that of your fragile psyche and its reliance on a fantasy. The jealously argument has also been heard before from you and you have even accused folks of money jealously on more than one occasion. Just another rich kid bragging that he is better because he has more – that’s what that is. You can’t shake that either. You can pretend your fair and balanced reformer bullshit all day long, but I’m not buying it. You’re still defending and justifying empire and the 1%ers who run it – you know, your parents. You are not a commoner like the rest of us. You can pick up a phone at anytime and get out of any bad situation that would ruin most. If it’s about to get real bad you can put your kids on the family plane and get them out – the rest of us can’t. You can join them too. Leave the farm experiment and walk away while the rest of us pick up the pieces. That is the privilege of wealth and also at the root of your bias. 1%ers and their kids are the last fucking people I would ever take advice from. Unless I wanted an investment tip in some highly profitable blood soaked venture.
Davy on Mon, 28th Sep 2015 4:55 pm
Ha, finally the ape man breaks his silence and with a bang. Ye ha! Good boy, let out your bile. You fucking CanAdians are dumb as a jar of dirt. You know ape man you sound like an idiot when you get pissed.
Is that what you want a mud fest or do you want some intelligence. You can choose.
apneaman on Mon, 28th Sep 2015 5:07 pm
intelligence? I’m a grade 9 dropout and I could run intellectual circles around you and your redundant long winded stream of thought (only 3) essays. I do not think daddy got his money’s worth for your college education. Or maybe he did as the whole point is only to legitimize the managerial class and make you proficient in number crunching to facilitate BAU for empire.
Davy on Mon, 28th Sep 2015 5:34 pm
Wow the king of the apes pulls the “I am smarter than you card” and the money card. I love when I piss the blowhards off. Anyone who says he is smart is obviously lacking some self esteem. I can’t help it if you could not make a living and now live with mom. I did good for myself on the other hand. I can understand how that would bother you. Go cry to your buddies here on this board they love you. Your so popular with the other uglies.
He ha, the ape man is pissed.
apneaman on Mon, 28th Sep 2015 6:30 pm
I live with my mom? thats news to me since she lives 20 k away in a different town. Taking a page off nony and plant and making shit up now I see. I never said I was smart, just that you are not, not for all your advantages and overpriced education. You will never know if you could have made it on your own Davy as you were born with a silver spoon. You could have been born a blind drooling retard and still would have done quite well for yourself given the family wealth. It was decided before you left the womb. Me, I’m blue collar and I don’t even need to work anymore. Haven’t had to for years, I just don’t go around bragging about it cause I know that things could have turned out differently quite easily. Work hard? Yes, but if not for luck, for a chance meeting, my life could be very different indeed. It’s sad to see people in their 50’s still impressed with the same things, still playing the same game. I can imagine 50,00 years ago, a son of the neanderthal tribal chief bragging to the other kids that he is better because his necklace has more sea shells on it than the other neanderthal kids have.
Only your bullshit bothers me Davy.