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Iran says it has full control of Gulf, U.S. Navy does not belong there

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Iran has full control of the Gulf and the U.S. Navy does not belong there, the head of the navy of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, General Alireza Tangsiri, was quoted by Tasnim news agency as saying on Monday.

Tehran has suggested it could take military action in the Gulf to block other countries’ oil exports in retaliation for U.S. sanctions intended to halt its sales of crude. Washington maintains a fleet in the Gulf that protects oil shipping routes.

Tangsiri said Iran had full control of the Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz that leads into it. Closing the strait would be the most direct way of blocking shipping.

“We can ensure the security of the Persian Gulf and there is no need for the presence of aliens like the U.S. and the countries whose home is not in here,” he said in the quote, which appeared in English translation on Tasnim.

He added, “All the carriers and military and non-military ships will be controlled and there is full supervision over the Persian Gulf. Our presence in the region is physical and constant and night and day.”

Separately, the head of the Revolutionary Guards, Major General Mohammad Ali Jafari, said Iran’s enemies would not prevail in a conflict.

“The enemies are strictly avoiding any conflict with Iran because they know that it will not be beneficial for them,” Jafari said, according to Tasnim.

Tension between Iran and the United States has escalated since President Donald Trump pulled out of a 2015 nuclear deal between Iran and world powers in May and reimposed sanctions.

Senior U.S. officials have said they aim to reduce Iran’s oil exports to zero.

Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the most senior authority in the Islamic Republic, said last month that he supports the idea that if Iran is not allowed to export oil then no country should export oil from the Gulf.

reuters



58 Comments on "Iran says it has full control of Gulf, U.S. Navy does not belong there"

  1. Sum on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 8:16 pm 

    In Farsi this is called “Gonde Goozi”, direct translation means Big Fart from his mouth, this is said in reference to someone talks loud and non sense, or other words blowing hot air. The bastard supreme leader and their joker Navy National Guard chief suck ass wants to control the Persian Gulf with their inflatable rafts. You dumb shits last time you tried it did not take much to get your navy decimated, this time your regime will be destroyed from ashes of the history the same way Saddam Hussein and ISL did.

    Free and prosperous Iran forever.

  2. makati1 on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 8:33 pm 

    The Us has hit the proverbial Brick Wall, Iran. There are none of the Us 50 states bordering the Gulf, so, it has no business there other than trade. Trade, not war.

    Iran can end the Us if the Us tries to attack. Iranian missiles taking out Saudi oil ports and refineries would end the US economy overnight. They can plunge the whole world into a depression that will never end.

    Or, they can sink a few oil tankers in the channel and stop exports, also in a few minutes. Iran holds the aces in this game with China, Russia, and some EU countries at their back.

    Frustrated America is being isolated. So be it.

  3. Cloggie on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 8:46 pm 

    And… Iran is not bluffing. In the 19th and 20th century UK and US navies resp. “ruled the waves”.

    No more.

    This is the age of the hyper-sonic missile. We already saw that new reality materializing during the Falklands war. If “2nd world” country Argentina had managed to acquire a few more French Exocet missiles, Argentina would have won. US luke-warm diplomacy knew how to prevent had, although Washington didn’t really care about the “Britishness” of the islands. In fact they are more interested in the British Isles losing their Britishness, as the poor Brits are going to find out the hard way, as they choose to move away from Europe into Orwell’s Oceania, but I digress.

    If Iran really crosses the Rubicon they can decide to destroy the US navy in the Gulf, if the US decides to launch an attack against Iran from the Gulf area. The US admits that Iran almost certainly will have hyper-sonic MACH5 missiles, kindly provided by Russia and China:

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/us-general-iran-north-korea-will-have-hypersonic-weapons-25491

    Launching these missiles against for instance carriers in or near the Gulf, after these US naval vessels are being used against Iran, in an attempt to recolonize Iran, will guaranteed lead to “filet Americain”, leaving the US with the very difficult dilemma if they should escalate to the nuclear level, the only practical option left or face humiliation. If the US would nuke an Iranian city, globalism will come to a shriking halt, I doubt they will take that risk to really become the international pariah.

    Most likely Iran will retaliate against a US naval blockade, with a counter blockade of commercial shipping in the Gulf, which would severely hurt European interests and drive them even more into the arms of Russia. Can you say South Stream?

    https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy/news/radev-pleads-in-moscow-for-bulgarian-stream-pipeline/

    My best guess would be: no bombing or missiles but mutual blockades, driving a further wedge between Europe and the US.

  4. Cloggie on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 9:00 pm 

    Davy = Sum (“I am”) says: “this time your regime will be destroyed from ashes of the history the same way Saddam Hussein and ISL did.”

    Um Davy, the US created ISIS, it was destroyed by Russia. Please keep your facts straight.

    Hussein may indeed have been murdered by the US but the end effect was that the Shia took over in Iraq (as KSA warned against in advance that would be the likely outcome of the invasion) and effectively is now an Iranian client state. The same blunder was committed in Syria.

    If the US really pushes this through, Russia and China could give the green light to both Turkey and Iran to topple the KSA US vassal regime and divide the loot between each other.

    There is way the US will prevail in this conflict.

    And I have this little suspicion that Trump is wrecking the US empire intentionally, paving the way for the breakup of the US, using Iran as a pretext, doing his white electorate the ultimate favor and liberate them from ZOG.

    But this is all too difficult for empire dave to grasp.

  5. JuanP on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 9:01 pm 

    Cloggie “If “2nd world” country Argentina had managed to acquire a few more French Exocet missiles, Argentina would have won.”

    That is 100% true. If Argentina had had five more Exocets they would have won the Malvinas War. Of course, the British knew they didn’t, though, and that is why they risked the war and won it. I hardly ever meet anyone who understands what a close call that war was and what a critical role the French Exocet missiles played.

  6. JuanP on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 9:08 pm 

    Russia and China will not allow Iran to be destroyed. The illegal US sanctions against Iran will not succeed in their goal of removing Iran’s government. They are already strengthening it by increasing its popular support. I believe the sanctions will cause more damage to the USA than to any other country in the world, including Iran, by weakening the control the US government has over the global financial system and accelerating the development of alternatives.

  7. makati1 on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 9:19 pm 

    JuanP, I totally agree with your last post. The Us is being destroyed from within faster than any outside force could do it. It is isolating itself from the rest of the world faster and faster every day, thanks to Trump.

    I am speeding up my preps as I think some serious shit is going to happen soon. Maybe by next year. Certainly by 2020.

  8. JuanP on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 9:31 pm 

    Sum sounds like a real harum zadeh.

  9. Cloggie on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 9:40 pm 

    Meanwhile in Germany very significant reports coming in. German police is losing control over the East-German town of Chemnitz.

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/chemnitz-wie-die-polizei-eine-stadt-den-rechten-ueberliess-a-1225238.html

    A “German” of Cuban descent came to the aid of German women, who were being harrassed by muslim “refugees” and got himself stabbed to death with 25 stabbings. An Iraqi and a Syrian have been arrested. Since then the city is a state of permanent uproar and foreigners are being harrassed in turn.

    Now the German ministery of the interior is warning against a CIVIL-WAR LIKE SITUATION in Germany:

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/chemnitz-burkhard-lischka-warnt-vor-inszenierung-buergerkriegsaehnlicher-zustaende-a-1225242.html

    As I have said repeatedly, the West is rapidly approaching a 1989 of its own. In the end white people both in Europe and America won’t accept their own dispossession. It already happened in Italy (they were the first in the twenties too with their fascist response against the bolshevik threat), now a populist overthrow of the Merkel vassal regime of George Soros and his “open society program” could be immanent, followed by a Soviet-style retreat of US and UK soldiers from Germany and the rest of Germany.

    #LastDaysOfTheEmpire

  10. Cloggie on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 9:43 pm 

    …and the rest of Europe

  11. makati1 on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 9:53 pm 

    “Playing ‘Sanction-ism’ Pushes the US into Isolation”

    Exactly what I have been saying. The US is destroying itself from within and Trump is the demolition man. I suspect that he was allowed to run and win because this is exactly what TPTB want, a leveled America. It is progressing nicely.

    “…while the US is trying to cripple Asia by sanctioning major Asian economies, the EU is trying to find friends. Of course, allying with Asia also allows Europe to end its over-dependence on the US.

    The new EU legislation to protect EU companies from US sanctions will significantly transform the EU-US disagreement over sanctions from discursive level to institutional and constitutional levels, cementing the EU effectively with the East, leaving the US in a virtual state of isolation.”

    So be it.

  12. The last drop on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 10:14 pm 

    Uncle Sam says, “What mine is MINE, what’s yours is negotiable….”..don’t these people ever learn?

  13. energy investor on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 10:25 pm 

    JuanP,

    The Air Vice Marshall who planned the Falklands campaign for UK is an acquaintance. He told me he was aware that one Exocet would have won the war for Argentina. All the Argentinian air force needed was enough fuel for their jets to search for the Canberra.

    But the Argies’ planes only had enough fuel to fly there, deliver their Exocet and return home. No fuel to either search or fight.

    I suppose right now the UK Government will look back on the excessive cost and wonder that it was all about PR rather than common sense.

  14. Sum on Mon, 27th Aug 2018 11:33 pm 

    JuanP,
    Harm Zadeh is you, your supreme leader which operating brothel in Mashhad, Haram Zadeh is your president and foreign minister with fake smile gave 50% of the Caspian Sea to receive 11 percent and to claim victory.

    One thing all of you trolls not counting is Iranian people’s will to be free from oppression of these Mafia thieves. It is going to happen, conditions in Iran is chaotic, regime is losing the control, you bastard regime lickers will be out of work soon.
    The regime is like a paper tiger, it is going to melt and crushed the end is near.
    Please do not get offended if you are just expressing your opinion, I have no animosity about free speech, just the ones like JoanP sold their country for few dollar.

  15. deadly on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 12:33 am 

    You would think the Iranians would be better hosts, be more congenial and compassionate, show some consideration, be more tolerant, like the Americans always are.

    Shouldn’t be so defensive, be more accepting, be friends, they’ll feel better for it.

    Kill the Americans with kindness, Kill the Iranians with kindness. Can’t we all just get along?

    Hell no.

    If I were the US Navy I would listen to what Iran says and skedaddle from the Persian Gulf.
    Might as well turn tail and run, it’s the Iranians. Got to be skeered of them thar Iranians.

    Go for the gusto and get some firepower downrange. B52hs raining bombs, get your war on all over again.

    The insouciance leads to ennui.

  16. Anonymouse1 on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 1:31 am 

    Hey Sumsock, I bet you think it would be a great idea if JuanP, got, I dont, say, deported?

    I bet you think that would a great idea donthca?

  17. Cloggie on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 2:31 am 

    Wikipedia Exocet Mach 0.92.

    The latest carrier killers have up to Mach 10. The US navy top brass has admitted there is no defense against these missiles.

    Carriers and navies are so 1940-ish.

  18. Anonymouse1 on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 2:46 am 

    Carriers and navies are so 1940-ish.

    It seems carriers, are just not kosher enough for cloggen-fraud here.

    But they are exactly like you then cloggenyid. You are so 1940s yourself. The time you spent in the jewish underground, you know, hiding underground in a sewer from the SS, really made a lasting impression on you. So much so, that here we are, over 70 years later, and you still wont stop talking about it.

  19. Babak on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 2:46 am 

    Deadly every day, Iranians are great hosts and very friendly, your mistake is your assumption considering Islamic Regime as Iranian, in fact it the Mafia not Iranians, before this brutal dictatorship Iran was host to many Americans and other nationalities. America and no nation have guts to attack Iran, Iranians are the only ones can and will take care of this regime. Iranians are dying everyday (not only on Tuesdays)in the dungeons of this gang, this will stop.

  20. Anonymouse1 on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 2:48 am 

    Dav…errr. Sum, ok Babsock, give it a rest already. Really.

  21. Davy on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 4:31 am 

    gimp, when are you going to make a real comment. PO dot com is not social media. Get on your Facebook and play. Intelligent people come here to talk real issues. we don’t play kids fantasy games.

  22. makati1 on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 4:54 am 

    “Carriers and navies are so 1940-ish.”

    Exactly, Anon. Sitting ducks. They can only move at about 40 mph max. The latest Chinese carrier killer missile’s speed is about 7,600 mph. One nuclear missile can take out the whole fleet anywhere within 2,000 miles of China. Less than 20 minutes from launch to bang. And the navy has nothing to stop it. Ten missiles and the Us has no surface navy.

    r

  23. Davy on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 5:03 am 

    “Carriers and navies are so 1940-ish. Exactly, Anon. Sitting ducks.”
    Billy, then why is your wonder nation China building them? The US and its allies already are building missiles to counter the missiles you speak of. You wish carriers were 1940ish. Acting like the gimp has any kind of understanding of anything much is also another delusion.

    “They can only move at about 40 mph max.”
    LOL, billy is trying to be technical. Billy how fast do other ships move???

    “Ten missiles and the Us has no surface navy.”
    Billy, how many ships does the US have in its navy? Another joke

  24. makati1 on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 5:03 am 

    BTW: The Philippines is well inside that 2,000 mile nuclear umbrella. And Us Guam is also(~1,600 miles).

    A few islands in the SCS will not be needed in a real war. The Us Navy will not be able to get within that 2,000 mile wall. The F35 would take over two hours to fly from a carrier to the Chinese mainland.

  25. makati1 on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 5:10 am 

    Any of the above facts can easily be checked on your favorite search engine. Common knowledge to some of us. Carriers do NOT travel alone. A carrier group is at least six ships and could be as many as 15.

  26. Davy on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 5:27 am 

    Any of the above facts can easily be checked on your favorite search engine.
    Maybe that is your problem billy because you don’t check facts you spit out fantasy delusions

    Common knowledge to some of us.
    Who is “US” If you mean the gimp and the Nazi then I am chuckling.

    Carriers do NOT travel alone.
    No shit Sherlock where did you figure that out?

    “A carrier group is at least six ships and could be as many as 15.”
    You said:
    “Ten missiles and the Us has no surface navy.”
    I asked:
    “Billy, how many ships does the US have in its navy?”
    Answer the question billy. Are you in the girls bathroom with your pants down?

  27. Babak on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 6:13 am 

    What about 10 Million Iranians in the streets, what your Mafia regime is going to do for that??
    The end is near. Tic Tic Tic

    Oh Forgot Chinese cruise missile, Hezbollah, ..??
    It will not work.

  28. Davy on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 6:26 am 

    The above is clearly a nedersock. You are losing it nederloon.

  29. twocats on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 8:19 am 

    attempting to impose any blockade or sanction on the Gulf or Strait would be considered an act of war by US and lead to immediate hot war. Brutal if that happens. The only persons it would help would be hard-liners in Iran and US.

  30. JuanP on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 10:52 am 

    Energy Investor, I believe you. I originally estimated three Exocets would have made all the difference, five to be sure. I made that estimate decades ago without knowing much about weapons or war since I am not an expert by far. I just counted the most important British ships and gave myself a margin for error. It is quite amazing to think that one nonnuclear missile more or less could win or lose a war.

  31. Sum on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 12:02 pm 

    Now that you mention this, Anon1, yes deport the ugly Miami Beach playboy, JoanP, back to his shithole Uraguay. We don’t want leches in this country.

  32. Davy on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 12:24 pm 

    JuanP, just so you know I am not part of whoever is playing the sock game above. I think someone is longing for the bitch fest days. I am think neder is behind this. He has been acting particularly strange lately with the sum handle. He likely took my handle yesterday. He is also making a huge deal about this Iranian deal in relation to me. Just sayin

  33. JuanP on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 1:19 pm 

    Davy, I baited Sum, so I deserve whatever he said back, which I haven’t bothered to read. I know you’ve been baited and held back lately. Thanks for that! I am not playing games. Your holding back is making a difference, please keep it up!

  34. JuanP on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 1:49 pm 

    “Can US bring Iranian oil exports to zero.”
    https://www.rt.com/business/437040-us-iranian-oil-exports-zero/
    This article has data on recent Iranian oil exports trends.

  35. Anonymouse1 on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 1:50 pm 

    See Juan, ‘sum’ is just the excpetionalturd playing his sock-games.

    Davyturd also has, his sock, running sock-puppets. And the turd has not been ‘holding’ back in the least. Have you seen the spam ‘mushmind’ cranks out. Its off the charts.

    Sorry everyone, if you though the exceptionalturd was going to calm down some……NOT happening. Insanity and delusions dont cure themselves. They dont even take a day off, even when they claim otherwise.

    Speaking of sock puppets, ‘Energy Invester’, is also a sock puppet. One of nonys (many) socks.

  36. JuanP on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 1:57 pm 

    Anon, I pick my fights one at a time. Whoever Sum is, he is not worth fighting with for me at this time. If he shows any sign of intelligence or the slightest inkling of understanding then I might find him more interesting and choose to fight with him, but he hasn’t yet. He is like MM, just another fool not worth fighting with. Davy is a worthy adversary, these fools are not. Whether they are socks or not doesn’t really matter to me. Ignorant fools don’t bother me.

  37. Boat on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 2:17 pm 

    2 cat

  38. Boat on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 2:22 pm 

    What if the US left the blockade to the rest of the world. It’s not like the US needs the oil. Let China and Europe deal with the loss of oil and an instant collaspe of their economies. Hehe, you think Irans actions would be viewed favorable?

  39. JuanP on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 3:04 pm 

    Boat “It’s not like the US needs the oil.”
    The USA is the second largest oil importer in the world after China. Closing the Persian Gulf would send oil prices through the roof which would send the US economy into a recession in no time. The US economy is a house of cards full of speculative bubbles ready to burst at this time, and a recession would start a chain reaction that would bankrupt the USA and the majority of Americans. If you play with fire you are going to get burned. If the US government had any brains they would leave Iran alone.

  40. MASTERMIND on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 3:11 pm 

    Boat

    The US does need the oil you moron

    We imported over 6 million barrels of oil a day last year

    Source: EIA
    https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRNTUS2&f=A

  41. Ebne Moljam on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 5:39 pm 

    JuanP (Mullah’s Bitch), I have loaded bunch of USO so no worries when the oil goes sky high I will make all the money I spent on helping Iranian factory workers on strike. What are you going to do without oil export your masters are not going to pay you?

  42. JuanP on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 6:19 pm 

    It seems I have unleashed the Iranian exile community in the USA with my comments! LOL! They remind me of Miami’s Cuban exiles, a bunch of fanatic, rabid dogs. Truth is a bitch, suckers!

  43. Anonymouse1 on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 6:23 pm 

    Exile communtity, sure. Its the same dude(davyturd), swapping handles.

    Same person, same dumbass.

    Sigh.

  44. Ebne Moljam on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 6:34 pm 

    I Wish Mullah’s cared and loved Iran as much as Fidel castro’s dog loved Cuba. But these bastards are ruthless enemies of Iran, but this will end.

  45. makati1 on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 8:23 pm 

    A slew of “new” contributors all have the “Davy” tag. lol

  46. Dooma on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 11:16 pm 

    A few islands in the SCS will not be needed in a real war. The Us Navy will not be able to get within that 2,000 mile wall. The F35 would take over two hours to fly from a carrier to the Chinese mainland

    You made a funny Mak. the F35 is an expensive showpiece with more flaws than a skyscraper

  47. makati1 on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 11:28 pm 

    Dooma, I wondered if anyone would pick up on that. Not to mention that the last two new navy ships never reached their assigned port without breaking down. If Russia and China can stall long enough, the US will self-destruct.

  48. Sum To Be on Tue, 28th Aug 2018 11:58 pm 

    Unbelievable how many here are loving dictatorships and the losers, I guess you must be one to love one.

  49. Dooma on Wed, 29th Aug 2018 12:57 am 

    Sum, feeling unloved? If you can touch your arsehole with your penis, you can always go fuck yourself..

  50. Go Speed Racer on Wed, 29th Aug 2018 12:58 am 

    Michael Savage was explaining the Iranian
    clergy rule the country, highly separated
    from the people, and they are a walled-off
    and ingrown bunch of goons.
    And that’s why all their officials
    look the same.

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