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In Davos, the global elite ponders on income inequality, lack of trust in leaders
The heaviest snowfall to hit Davos in decades saw heaps of snow piling up high all around this scenic Swiss Alpine resort.
It made for breathtaking sights for the thousands of business and political leaders attending the World Economic Forum meeting over the past week. The experienced skiers among them would have relished the prospects of hitting the slopes packed with fresh powder.
Yet, an excess of snowfall also raises the risk of a sudden avalanche, when snow can come crashing down without warning.
This chilling metaphor was heard several times in discussions here, signalling an underlying anxiety among participants about what lies ahead.
In the past, after all, few had forseen political shockers such as Brexit, or looming financial crises, lying ahead.
So while the news that broke this week of global stock markets hitting new highs and economic growth forecasts being raised was cheered, this was tinged with an unspoken worry about the economic, environmental, social and political fragilities that still need to be minded.
At the heart of these concerns are growing income inequalities and declining trust among the people in political systems and leaders.
A much-talked about Oxfam study released just as participants were arriving in Davos on Monday showed that 82 per cent of the wealth generated last year went to the richest 1 per cent of the global population while the poorest half saw no increase at all.
This year’s Edelman Trust Barometer Index, a dipstick into levels of trust in societies, released this week, also showed steep falls in trust in many countries, especially in the United States, which saw a 37-point drop in trust across all institutions.
“The United States is enduring an unprecedented crisis of trust,” said Mr Richard Edelman, president and CEO of Edelman, who was here in Davos. “This is the first time that a massive drop in trust has not been linked to a pressing economic issue or catastrophe like the Fukushima nuclear disaster. In fact, it’s the ultimate irony that it’s happening at a time of prosperity, with the stock market and employment rates in the US at record highs. The root cause of this fall is the lack of objective facts and rational discourse.”
Lamentably, the study also found that the media is now ranked as the least trusted institution globally, distrusted in 22 of the 28 countries surveyed. Nearly seven in 10 respondents among the general public say they are concerned about fake news being used as a weapon, and 59 per cent say it is getting harder to tell if a news item is fake or is produced by a respected media organisation.
This sharp drop stems largely from a decline in trust in media platforms, notably search engines and social media. Amid the proliferation of fake news and false information, trust in journalism has rebounded and is up five percentage points. Credible voices showing expertise have also gained trust, with journalists up 12 points, CEOs up 7 points and technical experts and analysts also seeing a rise in their trust numbers. In contrast, confidence in “people like us” as a source of reliable information has fallen to an all-time low of 54 per cent.
Noting that this is both good and bad news, Mr Edleman told a gathering of editors attending the International Media Council session, as part of the WEF meeting: “There is both a challenge, and an opportunity, for mainstream media organisations here, to help establish levels of trust in society.”
This is significant, as the lack of faith in the media feeds into the public’s inability to identify the truth (59 per cent), trust government leaders (56 per cent) and trust business (42 per cent), the Edleman survey had concluded.
Making this point in an interview with The Straits Times at the close of the week-long meeting, Minister in the Prime Minister’s Office Chan Chun Sing argued that trust has taken a hit because some governments had failed to deliver on the promise of better lives through globalisation and free trade. The spread of fake news on the Internet has also left voters wondering who or what information they could trust.
Both of these have undermined trust, he said, as workers who feel left behind wonder if it is their leaders or the media who are oblivious to the ecomomic and social problems they face, or deliberately downplaying their plight.
Either way, the political implications are serious, as a report by Swiss bank Credit Suisse released here last Tuesday, titled The Future of Politics, revealed. In it, former British Prime Minister John Major notes how a “disillusioned, disinterested, preoccupied” electorate is “shrugging its shoulders and turning away from politics”.
“In such a climate, democracy faces a threat from the rise of nationalism. This is not theoretical: in many countries it is a reality. In others, a clear and present danger.
“My worry is that democracy is in retreat, stifled by its own virtues. Across Europe, nationalism has gained more than a foothold. It begins with a populism that masquerades as patriotism, but morphs into something far less attractive.”
Sharing this rather bleak view, Harvard professor Larry Summers wrote in the Financial Times: “In countries as diverse as the US, UK, Turkey, Russia, Israel and China, it appears that the governmental platform that commands the most popular support is rooted in nativism, nationalism and negativism. Populist nationalism eventually produces bad economic results, leading to more pressures for anti-establishment leadership and for extreme policies. It is far from obvious what reequilibrates the system.”
Little wonder then that this drift to populism and nationalism was a cause of much concern here among Davos participants, longstanding cheerleaders for globalisation, free trade, open borders and social inclusion. Many speakers took up the theme and called for action to address the underlying causes.
The charge was led by the youthful French President Emmanuel Macron, who said it was time to “push back against nationalism and nativism“. Delivering an impassioned, hour-long speech, from notes and without teleprompters, he called for a new global compact to address the forces that led to rising inequality and populism, noting his own battles against these in his election campaign last year.
“We have a situation where people are being told, on social and financial issues, that the answer is to do less, to cut our taxes, there is no limit, it’s a race to the bottom.”
“If we aren’t able to agree on a standard of international cooperation, we will never convince the middle class, the working class, that globalisation is good for them,” he said, calling for sweeping reforms of global tax and trade systems to ensure that globalisation works for the common man.
He also added that leaders had a duty to speak honestly with their voters about the challenges they needed to address, rather than offering them quick, easy, populist pitches, which ultimately undermined trust.
Taking up the line of argument, Swiss president Alain Berset added that the broad sweep of society needed to be convinced that globalisation works for them. “People want to feel they can control the forces of globalisaiton and change. Otherwise, they will use their vetoes at the ballot box. Most people don’t oppose openness and change. But they want to feel secure. They want access to economic opportunities.”
In Singapore, thankfully, trust levels in key institutions, from government to the media have remained high over the years, going by the Edleman findings. Trust in the media in Singapore, at 52 points, is the sixth highest in the world. Mindful of the importance of upholding this trust, the government has convened a Select Committee to study how best to address the challenge of fake news.
For, as Mr Chan noted, this intangible aspect of trust, along with delivering tangible benefits as promised, were both critical in building up the people’s belief in the system and their leaders.
“For Singapore, every generation of leadership, regardless of who forms the government, must firstly be able to deliver a better quality of life and standard of living for the people. People must have the sense that they have the opportunity to realise their dreams, especially for the next generation, their children….Then, there is the question of how you can build trust because you are upfront, forthright, honest about the challenges and options that the country has to confront together.”
“If we don’t manage these two aspects well, then we should not make any presumptions that we will garner the trust of a new generation,” he said.
This critical importance of leaders meaning what they say and saying what they mean was captured best in the closing moments of this year’s meeting. While the participants might not think much of the populist America First approach taken by US President Donald Trump, they listened patiently and applauded politely when he wrapped up his speech, which was surprisingly lacking the fire and fury that some had expected.
But they hissed in disapproval when Mr Trump described the media as “nasty, vicious, and fake”. The much respected WEF founder and executive chairman Klaus Schwab also raised eyebrows when he remarked that the American president had been “subject to misconceptions and biased representations”, and later called his rather lacklustre speech “inspiring”.
It might have been a passing comment, signifying nothing, but it also made plain how easily trust and credibility can melt away, just like the snow on the ground, as the sun emerged yesterday to glisten on the lovely Swiss Alps, as delegates made their winding way home.
70 Comments on "In Davos, the global elite ponders on income inequality, lack of trust in leaders"
onlooker on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 11:22 am
When it all comes crumbling down, many wealthy elites and so called leaders will be rightfully singled out and blamed. I would not like to be any of them as they can lose more than their status
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 11:35 am
Onlooker
Post collapse just tell the Rich man NO…One time..Then watch him stroke out while I breed his daughters! I’m going to have more kids than Stanford!
Anonymouse1 on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 12:58 pm
Sorry exceptionalist, you can forget all about the ‘rich’ and their daughters. The only ‘kids’ you’ll be enjoying, are of the 4-legged variety.
Cloggie on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 1:20 pm
“Post collapse just tell the Rich man NO…One time..Then watch him stroke out while I breed his daughters! I’m going to have more kids than Stanford!”
Millimind outs himself as a rapist. Why am I not surprised.
German women were well-acquinted with Marxist trash filth from the prairie and taiga. Fortunately Russia is post-Marxism and the US is about to descend in a XXL-Yugoslavia scenario.
https://youtu.be/hWQLbzxAcFQ
Cloggie on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 1:36 pm
The Davos elite, under the inspiring leadership of George Soros, is dreaming of a globalist world without borders and everybody mixed. The third world can’t believe its luck, the original western population not so much as they are on the receiving end of this western style variety of communism: crime, cost and most important: loss of identity and the perspective of a third world future.
Houston, we’ve got a problem.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 1:37 pm
I am going to turn the rich’s daughters into my personal fuck toys! Ill tell them to turn off that stupid Taylor Swift and open up wide for my bid dick! Their old man will have a heart attack when me and the fellas are riding a train on their first born blued eyed princess!
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 1:40 pm
MESSAGE TO THE RICH!
THERE’S A STORM Coming!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3CLc0IGstk
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 1:42 pm
MESSAGE TO THE RICH!
THERE’S A STORM Coming!
https://imgur.com/a/6dEDt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3CLc0IGstkCO
AND LEAVE SO LITTLE OIL FOR THE REST US!
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 1:46 pm
Message to the 1%!
https://imgur.com/a/2bKAo
Soon…
Cloggie on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 1:50 pm
But the reaction is underway. Donald Trump, the de facto president of white America, is the declared enemy of the Davos people.
Last week on German television a talkshow about the Trump presidency:
https://youtu.be/TCWIlAVo9yI
Not all guests were Trump haters, for the giewers from left to right:
Peter Rough – US Rep polit consultant, pro-Trump, Hudson Inst.
Wolfgang Ischinger – Atlanticist, organiser Munich Security Conference
Maybritt Illner – moderator, Trump hater
Georg Pazderski – spokesperson AFD, pro-Trump
Jörg Thadeusz – leftist journalist and Trump-Hater
Core message: “we underestimated Trump”
“I could very well be that Trump will secure a second term”
Let’s face it, Trump is to the US empire what Gorbachev was to the Soviet empire: its undertaker.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 1:54 pm
Clogg
Trump is the biggest globalist con mad the world has ever seen. Even when he flys to their conference you claim he is anti? You are so fucking delusional! His hats aren’t even made in America…He owns property all around the world and his wife is an immigrant….He said at davos “I want to make the rich richer” His words not mine! And he is the deep states wettest dream come true. More funding for the military machine of death and destruction! And his favorite but buddy is Nutt and Yahoo of Israel! LOL How do you like dem apples Clogg! LOL
Cloggie on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 2:02 pm
You gotta love the naivite with which certified trash like millimind are announcing their future crimes. You can’t fix bolsheviks and their horrors. He is using peak oil to justify his future crimes, just like apneaman of former fame used “climate change” as a pretext for white genocide. Millimind appeared on the scene at the very moment apneaman left. Apneaman left because his ethnic identity was revealed and linked to his message. I think 60-40 that apneaman carried out a great identity reset and reappeared as millimind, this time using peak oil as pretext for white genocide.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 2:14 pm
Clogg
White people are more easily seduced into the capitalist myth of the American dream. Unlike their brothers of color who understand how the game is rigged against them.
THERE IS ONLY ONE RACE- THE HUMAN RACE! NO BORDERS! NO WARS! ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT! EAT THE RICH!
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 2:15 pm
A boss in heaven is the best excuse for a boss on earth. So if god did exist he would have to be abolished!
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 2:16 pm
Clogg
What do you think is going to happen when the oil starts to run out! The elites are trapped like rats! And they know it! Time to get the guillotines out!
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 2:19 pm
Ain’t it funny how the factory doors close, round the time that school doors close, round the time that 100k jail cells open up to greet you, like the reaper!
-RATM
peakyeast on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 2:26 pm
@MM: many of us here on PO.com has been or is the 1% – I think you are referring to the 0.1%
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 2:28 pm
Clog whenever ya see a cop beatin’ a guy,
Wherever a hungry new born baby cries,
Whereever there’s a fight against the blood and hatred in the air,
Look for me Clogg
I’ll be there!
Wherever somebodies stuglin’ for a place to stand,
For a decent job or a helpin’ hand,
Wherever somebody is strugglin’ to be free
Look in their eyes Clogg,
You’ll see me! You’ll see me! You’ll see me!
Cloggie on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 2:31 pm
“THERE IS ONLY ONE RACE- THE HUMAN RACE! NO BORDERS! NO WARS! ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT! EAT THE RICH!”
Spare me your Marxist drivel. The consequences of mixing races and religions could be observed in Ireland, Palestine, Turkey, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Ukraine, to name just a few of the most recent horrendous conflicts.
And fools like you want to enforce more mixing, leading invariably to genocide.
Next stop: USA. You yourself are announcing that conflict. Bring it on, millimind, just bring it on and make two billion Europeans, Russians and Chinese very happy by enabling for them some major geopolitical upward mobility. Exit American Era.
See you in North-America, you fool.lol
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 2:36 pm
Clogg
the reason there is on peace because the elites spread propaganda to the stupid people “Uneducaed right wing white people”..That conditions them to hate. Mix a bunch of kids together from all races. They dont’ even understand what racism even is..Racism is taught! Its not natural….
Cloggie on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 2:59 pm
“the reason there is on peace because the elites spread propaganda to the stupid people “Uneducaed right wing white people”..“
It is exactly the other way around. In the West it is the “elite” that promotes One World, globalism and anti-racism. The deplorables in contrast resist. And the resistance is growing. Won’t be long until massive violence will break out. To begin with in the US. And commie rats like you smell their chance for sadism, rape and violence. You don’t even put an effort in hiding your intentions. POS.
But Marxism is sooo 20th century. The US is an anachronism, an accident waiting to happen.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 3:18 pm
Clogg
Whats wrong with globalism? US exports to GDP have boomed every since they singed free trade agreements. The US for example sells about 40 billion dollars a year in food to mexico and Candace after NAFTA was signed.
https://imgur.com/a/8wBoc
You just proved my point. You have been convinced through propaganda that globalism is bad, that we are being flooded with migrants. None of its true you are just so dumb and fearful and you dont question the fake news…Maybe if you went to college and took an economics course you would have learned how our economy actually works.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 3:20 pm
Clogg
What happened, is that Republicans wanted a dumbed down base which would reliably vote against their economic interests every time. And they got it in spades – a dumbed down base. But now their Frankenmonster is off the leash.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 3:23 pm
Clog
See how dumb you look now for scaremonger about globalism? Just remember next time to question whatever you read or hear. and dont make arguments without any evidence. and things like getting your ass handed to you above wont happen.
Cloggie on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 3:26 pm
“You have been convinced through propaganda that globalism is bad, that we are being flooded with migrants.“
Until 1965 the US were more than 90% white. Today, whites below 10 years old are no longer a majority. Reason: the US have been intentionnally flooded with third world immigrants, no questions asked in that fake democracy of yours.
And now the chickens come home to roost and nothing can be done about it anymore, other than relocating to low risk locations.
The only open question is whether whites will manage to escape by revolting or get trapped in the USSR-2.0.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 3:32 pm
IMF chief warns Trump’s tax cuts could destabilise global economy
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jan/26/imf-chief-warns-trumps-tax-cuts-could-destabilise-global-economy
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 3:35 pm
Clogg
Whits are a minority if you count mix all of the other minorities together. If you count white vs black or white vs Mexican there are still 2 white people for every one minority. Once again you are not putting things into proper context..Because you do know homework and dont question propaganda. Your scaremonger and gas lighting doesn’t work on intelligent people.
Mad Kat on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 5:24 pm
Cloggie, MM has a short attention span and a short time reference. Anything that happened before he became cognizant*, did not happen. That means that he only sees the last 15-20 years for reference. We have decades more, but that doesn’t count in his mind.
* cognizant: knowledgeable of something especially through personal experience. M-W
“Over one million immigrants will arrive in the United States next year, according to the US Census Bureau, with future projections showing that the nation may add up to another 49 million new residents from overseas over the course of the next 35 years. … Back in 1970 less than 1 in 21 Americans were born overseas; however, this figure has now grown to one in seven, with around 80 million Americans being either immigrants or the children of immigrants.”
https://www.us-immigration.com/us-immigration-news/us-immigration/over-one-million-immigrants-to-come-to-us-in-2016/
He has not experienced the time line we have. No perspective other than what he is told by his masters. He still assumes that you have to have a piece of paper from some over priced, for profit, diploma mill to be intelligent and understand the world. Totally brainwashed.
He cannot prove you wrong so he resorts to name calling and put-downs. Childish. Like another on here.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 5:29 pm
Madkat
One million new immigrants into a country with 325 million people is just a rounding error in mathematics! Nice try gas lighting like clogg and fear mongering! If you dont compare to the number of immigrants against the current population or future population your argument is baseless. Once again proving why you didnt stay in college and had to go work with your hands!
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 5:31 pm
Madkat
Stop trying to scare poor clogg he is worried and paranoid enough! He might take it out on his wife/sister!
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 5:36 pm
Madkat
When I dropped that genius Socrates quote yesterday on you! LOL You were so triggered!
Madkat after being destroyed by MM
https://imgur.com/a/Uq7sE
Mad Kat on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 5:43 pm
Triggered? You sound like that other deluded person called “Davy”. I was just pointing out your stupidity, nothing more. An out-of-context quote means nothing. I understand how to read, write and speak correct English. I think you missed that class or failed it.
Mad Kat on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 5:50 pm
BTW: Did you fail math also MM? 1 in 7 means 14.29%, or about 46,400,000 immigrant Americans, ALREADY there and another ~49,000,000 by the time you are 65. Not to mention intermarriages that will dilute the whiteys continually. A country of permanent tans is the new America future. Not that the US is likely to exist in 35 years. Certainly not in today’s form. Maybe a dictatorship? I won’t be here in 35 years to see it but you might. lol
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 5:50 pm
Madkat
I am half you age that means you have to try to keep up with my times and lingo not the other way around! And why are you trying to scare poor old clogg. You know just spitting numbers out without putting them into context will scare him…And you know he wont fact check anything and if he does he doesnt know how to vet his sources properly.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 5:52 pm
Madkat
Not true..Here is a chart on immigration from Bloomberg
https://imgur.com/a/VA6QH
Stop gas lighting!
fmr-paultard on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 6:04 pm
((mm)) duterte is giving aswangland muslims self rule.
Abu Huraira reported Allaah’s Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allaah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.
sahih muslim
Mad Kat on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 6:14 pm
”
First published in 2005, updated in January 2015 and April 2017. The US opioid crisis broadly defined bears a relationship to the export of heroin out of Afghanistan. There were 189,000 heroin users in the US in 2001, before the US-NATO invasion of Afghanistan. By 2016 that number went up to 4,500,000 (2.5 million heroin addicts and 2 million casual users).”
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-spoils-of-war-afghanistan-s-multibillion-dollar-heroin-trade/91
America’s “Opium War” on Americans.
Davy on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 6:26 pm
“BTW: Did you fail math also MM? 1 in 7 means 14.29%, or about 46,400,000 immigrant Americans, ALREADY there and another ~49,000,000 by the time you are 65. Not to mention intermarriages that will dilute the whiteys continually. A country of permanent tans is the new America future.”
billyT, we are still better off than your overpopulated island. There is no telling how many more immigrants will come here so quit speculating. I have no problem with people of color. I guess you do. I wonder if your Filipino friends know you look down upon them. You are disgusting.
Mad Kat on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 6:31 pm
Perspective for those with reading problems…
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2018/01/27/chain-migration/#more-168828
Enjoy! (Not the porn ads… lol)
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 6:32 pm
Who cares about fucking immigrants we are going to die soon when the oil starts to run out and the global economy collapses. It wont matter if you are an immigrant or a central banker!
Mad Kat on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 6:50 pm
MM…”I am half you age that means you have to try to keep up with my times and lingo not the other way around!”
Why do I have to do anything, let alone try to keep up with what is used as “lingo” today, you know. It is a bastard language used by the uneducated, you know. I am not going to lower myself to your level so you can understand, you know. Like, why should I? Get educated.
Mad Kat on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 6:53 pm
Davy, your broken record about population is trash talk, not facts. So stop looking stupid.
Mad Kat on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 7:06 pm
fmr, that is a good thing. He is trying to get peace and get rid of the US ‘advisors’ infesting the Ps.
http://gulfnews.com/news/asia/philippines/philippines-duterte-offers-muslim-self-rule-1.2060485
I hope the US fails in its attempts to block its passage, as I know they will try. They still ‘own’ some of the Ps government bots.
Davy on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 7:08 pm
100MIL in the space of Arizona:
https://tinyurl.com/yc8ehp9q
billyT, pretty amazing stuff except for you who lives in it.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 7:23 pm
Barclay’s Oil Industry Spending Cuts!
We’re now past the point of no return, that finite period in time when the world could have, but failed to, reinvest in energy development to arrest declines. This survey of 200 major oil producers indicates that in 2015/2016 oil companies globally halved their spending. If you think that’s bad, wait there’s more. Remember outside of shale, oil projects take years to develop and bring online.
https://imgur.com/a/1AhMQ
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 7:25 pm
Madkat
I earned a PhD from Michigan in Quantum Chemistry….You don’t even have a degree and you are scolding me on education? Geez old man your mind is collapsing faster than the USA! It looks like its going to be a nail bitter which one implodes first! LOL
GregT on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 7:28 pm
‘we are still better off than your overpopulated island.”
“we are going to die soon”
Just out of curiosity, how many of you are sharing that body? Sounds like quite a few.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 7:42 pm
Barclay’s Oil Industry Spending Cuts
We’re now past the point of no return, that finite period in time when the world could have, but failed to, reinvest in energy development to arrest declines. This survey of 200 major oil producers indicates that in 2015/2016 oil companies globally halved their spending. If you think that’s bad, wait there’s more. Remember outside of shale, oil projects take years to develop and bring online.
https://imgur.com/a/1AhMQ
Mad Kat on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 9:36 pm
MM… Phd = ‘piled higher and deeper’ as in bullshit! Your very immaturity and ignorance is open to everyone here. Don’t pretend to be what you are not. Liars are not welcome in the society of honest people or here.
An intelligent person would never post the shit you do. Or put down anyone for their personal ideas or beliefs, as you constantly do. Get a job at McDonalds, if you can, and get out of mom’s basement and your girlfriends pocketbook. Grow up.
Mad Kat on Sat, 27th Jan 2018 9:39 pm
Greg, I think there are a few here that are definitely skitzo. MM & Davy come to mind. Maybe he thinks he is a king. I understand that they talk in the plural. Delusional.