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From Overstretch to Collapse

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In less than three decades, a mere blink of the eye in historical terms, the United States has gone from the world’s sole superpower to a massive foundering wreck that is helpless before the coronavirus and intent on blaming the rest of the world for its own shortcomings. As the journalist Fintan O’Toole noted recently in the Irish Times:

“Over more than two centuries, the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the U.S. until now: pity.”

Quite right. But how and why did this pitiable condition come about? Is it all Donald Trump’s fault as so many now assume? Or did the process begin earlier?

The answer for any serious student of imperial politics is the latter. Indeed, a fascinating email suggests that the tipping point occurred in early to mid-2014, long before Trump set foot in the Oval Office.

Sent from U.S. General Wesley Clark to Philip Breedlove, Clark’s successor as NATO commander in Europe, the email is dated Apr. 12, 2014, and concerns events in the Ukraine that had recently begun spinning out of control. A few weeks earlier, the Obama administration had been on top of the world thanks to a nationalist insurrection in Kiev that had chased out a mildly pro-Russian president named Viktor Yanukovych. Champagne glasses were no doubt clinking in Washington now that the Ukraine was solidly in the western camp. But then everything went awry. First, Vladimir Putin seized control of the Crimean Peninsula, site of an all-important Russian naval base at Sevastopol. Then a pro-Russian insurgency took off in Donetsk and Luhansk, two Russian-speaking provinces in the Ukraine’s far east. Suddenly, the country was coming apart at the seams, and the U.S. didn’t know what to do.

It was at that moment that Clark dashed off his note. Already, he informed Breedlove, “Putin has read U.S. inaction in Georgia and Syria as U.S. ‘weakness.’” But now, thanks to the alarming turn of events in the Ukraine, others were doing the same. As he put it:

“China is watching closely. China will have four aircraft carriers and airspace dominance in the Western Pacific, within 5 years, if current trends continue. And if we let Ukraine slide away, it definitely raises the risks of conflict in the Pacific. For, China will ask would the U.S. then assert itself for Japan, Korea, Taiwan the Philippines the South China Sea?

…[I]f Russia takes Ukraine, Belarus will join the Eurasian Union, and, presto, the Soviet Union (in another name) will be back…

…Neither the Baltics nor the Balkans will easily resist the political disruptions empowered by a resurgent Russia and what good is a NATO ‘security guarantee’ against internal subversion?

…And then the U.S. will find a much stronger Russia, a crumbling NATO and [a] major challenge in the Western Pacific. Far easier to [hold] the line now in Ukraine than elsewhere later” [emphasis in the original].

The email speaks volumes about the mentality of those in charge. Conceivably, the Obama administration still had time to turn things around – if, that is, it had shown a bit of flexibility, a willingness to compromise, and a willingness as well to stand up to the ultra-nationalists who had led the anti-Yanukovych upsurge and opposed anything smacking of an even-handed settlement.

But instead it did the opposite. Back in the 1960s, cold warriors had argued that if Vietnam “fell” to the Communists, then Thailand, Burma, and even India would follow suit. But the proposition that Clark now advanced was even more extreme, a super-Domino Theory holding that a minor ethnic uprising in a part of the world that few people in Washington could find on the map was intolerable because it could cause the entire international structure to unravel. NATO, U.S. control of the western Pacific, victory over the Soviets – all would be lost because a few thousand people insisted on speaking their native Russian.

Why such rigidity? The real problem was not so much a confrontation mindset as a phenomenon that the historian Paul Kennedy had identified in the late 1980s: “imperial overstretch.” Like other empires before it, the U.S. had allowed itself to become so over-extended after twenty-five years of “unipolarity” that strategists had their hands full keeping an increasingly rickety structure together. Nerves were on edge, which is why an ethnic uprising that might have been accommodated at an earlier stage of U.S. imperial development was no longer tolerable. Because the rebels had run afoul of U.S. imperial priorities, they constituted a fundamental threat and therefore had to be bulldozed out of the way.

Except for one thing: the structure was so weak that each new bulldoze operation only made matters worse. Insurgents continued to hold their ground in Donetsk and Luhansk thanks to Russian backing while the government grew more and more corrupt and unstable back in Kiev. In the Middle East, the situation was so confused that U.S. allies like Saudi Arabia and Qatar were channeling money and arms to ISIS as it rampaged through eastern Syria and northern Iraq and advanced on Baghdad. Thanks to the turmoil that U.S. policies were unleashing, millions of desperate refugees would soon make their way to Europe where they would spark a powerful nativist reaction that continues to this day. U.S. hegemony was turning into a nightmare.

It was no different in an America shaken by Wahhabist terrorism and dismayed by wars in the Middle East that went nowhere yet never seemed to end. Donald Trump rode a wave of discontent into the White House by promising to “drain the swamp” and bring the troops home. Conceivably, he could have done just that once he was in office – if, that is, he had been serious about downsizing U.S. imperialism and was capable of standing up to the CIA. But the “intelligence community” struck back by launching a classic destabilization campaign based on the theme of Russian collusion while Trump’s foreign-policy ideas turned out be even more of a mess than Obama’s.

So the collapse intensified, which is why America is now such a helpless giant. A crazy man is at the helm, yet the best Democrats can do is put up a candidate suffering from the early stages of senile dementia, who may be a rapist to boot. No one knows how things will play out from this point on.

But two things are clear. One is that the process did not start under Trump, and the other is that it will undoubtedly continue regardless of who wins in November. Once collapse sets in, it’s impossible to stop.

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53 Comments on "From Overstretch to Collapse"

  1. makati1 on Sat, 9th May 2020 8:53 pm 

    This article says it all. “… the United States has gone from the world’s sole superpower to a massive foundering wreck…So the collapse intensified, which is why America is now such a helpless giant. A crazy man is at the helm, yet the best Democrats can do is put up a candidate suffering from the early stages of senile dementia, who may be a rapist to boot…. Once collapse sets in, it’s impossible to stop.’

    Nuff said.

  2. SocialRevolutionComing on Sat, 9th May 2020 9:56 pm 

    Don’t think you will be safe and everything will be fine in Asia when the world wide supply chain collapses.

  3. makati1 on Sat, 9th May 2020 11:08 pm 

    SRC, an with what experience/authority do you make that assertion? I would suspect…NONE!

    The ‘world-wide supply chain’ will probably contract somewhat to adjust to the new, poorer consumer situation in the West, but for some, like me, the change will hardly be noticeable. My needs are locally supplied, not international.

    Do you actually believe all the bullshit you read/see on the internet and MSM “news”? If so, you are obviously a typical brainwashed, dumbed down, Amerikan sheeple, unable to rationally think for yourself.

    Changes coming. Yes. Radical as you propose. NO. I will say that the pain of adjustment will definitely be more so in the West, and especially the “exceptional/indispensable”, deluded Amerika. Buckle up! The ride over the Amerikan collapse cliff straight ahead will be a doozy!

  4. SocialRevolutionComing on Sat, 9th May 2020 11:16 pm 

    Asians people are just stupid slave that cannot think by themselves They are just good at intimidating what Whites people do. Only loser Whites man married Asians Womens. Asians have monkey type like face. Asians are as ugly as negros.

  5. Theedrich on Sun, 10th May 2020 12:20 am 

    The latest: Big Nig Ø attacks Trump. He claims POTUS’ treatment of the ChiCom virus is “spotty.”  Only the Deranged Dem-lovers and Marxists will believe the brownie, of course, who has lately also endorsed the senile basement-dweller Biden as the favored candidate for next prez.  What next?

    The current Democratic strategy is to use pandemic panic to collapse the nation economically and blame it on Trump in order to win the presidency on 2020 Nov. 4.  The demand for infinite “testing,” constant sob stories about “Trump-caused” viral deaths, and demonization of citizens who want to reopen their small businesses, may well work.  If one is to believe the polls, a large portion of the income-secure populace is frozen in fear.  Hollywood celebrities, CEOs of China-dependent international companies, corrupt
    Dem politicoes and various ejecta from the previous administration, are used to lay down the incessant barrage against today’s White House inhabitant:

        Double, double toil and trouble;
        Fire burn and cauldron bubble.
    Scale of dragon, tooth of wolf,
    Witches’ mummy, maw and gulf
    Of the ravin’d salt-sea shark,
    Root of hemlock digg’d i’ the dark,
    Liver of blaspheming Jew,
    Gall of goat, and slips of yew
    Sliver’d in the moon’s eclipse,
    Nose of Turk, and Tartar’s lips,
    Finger of birth-strangled babe
    Ditch-deliver’d by a drab,
    Make the gruel thick and slab:
    Add thereto a tiger’s chaudron,
    For the ingredients of our cauldron.

        Double, double toil and trouble;
        Fire burn and cauldron bubble.

  6. Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 10th May 2020 12:36 am 

    “SRC, an with what experience/authority do you make that assertion? I would suspect…NONE!”

    Now that’s an interesting development! Makati demands authority before someone makes a bold claim. Next he is going to apply that standard to himself and his blooper of Michael Moorean dimensions that a renewable energy base can’t exist without fossil fuel support.

    Just wait for it… and wait… and wait…

  7. SocialRevolutionComing on Sun, 10th May 2020 1:13 am 

    We, Whites, are the superior race, we don’t look like monkey like Asians people do.

    Connecting a Dolly + Trailer!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBwFoIQHuqs

  8. Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 10th May 2020 1:30 am 

    “the journalist Fintan O’Toole”

    He is not only a journalist, he is an historian as well. He has written the best article about Brexit I have ever read:

    https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/historicus-fintan-o-toole-voor-sommige-brexiteers-is-de-eu-in-zekere-zin-nog-bedreigender-dan-de-nazi-s~b3395ced/

    “For some Brexiteers, the EU is more of a threat than the Nazis”

    O’Tool not only has pity with the Americans, he has some in store for the English as well.

    “But how and why did this pitiable condition come about? Is it all Donald Trump’s fault as so many now assume? Or did the process begin earlier?”

    Why you ask? Because America since early 20th century is designed to do something, it no longer is capable to do: integrating the entire world in a single political entity (NWO), run from the unofficial capital of the world: Jew York City.

    America has become a 92 year old Casanova, in bed with Brigitte Bardot (in her best years): he would, if he only could.

    It’s not Donnie’s fault. Au contraire!, as they say in Denmark. For all his faults, Donnie at least has recognized this Casanova truth and has begun to draw conclusions from this insight and stopped starting empire wars and instead began to defend US industry against an industrial hegemonic China. America First! Good for him!

    He may be a bragger, a philanderer of the golden shower variety, he may be an two-legged environmental disaster, but at least he has a geopolitical vision and he is prepared to take his losses and withdraw from an untenable empire. And he is a closet white nationalist and as a consequence, he has the correct enemy: the media.

    “A few weeks earlier, the Obama administration had been on top of the world thanks to a nationalist insurrection in Kiev that had chased out a mildly pro-Russian president named Viktor Yanukovych. Champagne glasses were no doubt clinking in Washington now that the Ukraine was solidly in the western camp.”

    The whole Euro-Maidan thingy was orchestrated by the CIA under the inspiring leadership of Victoria “F*ck the EU” Nuland, the neocon (((witch))) who distributed cookies on Maidan square, during an inspection of the new US colony and later triumphantly reported in the US about this new acquisition on her watch:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2fYcHLouXY

    In the long run this Ukrainian exercise will prove to be in the interest of the EU, as Russia got down-sized by the loss of the Ukraine, preparing Russia for a more modest role in a triumvirate Paris-Berlin-Moscow on more or less equal terms, when the day will arrive that PBM will be formed in panic, once it will have become clear that China will take over from the US as the next #1.

    America is psychologically in a tail-spin, as the old century-old NWO grand strategy has failed and Americans need to reinvent themselves and seek a new role, while waking up in a rapidly darkening country, with vastly increasing ethnic tensions, where globalist Dems and de facto white nationalist Reps are developing into war parties, where the former will keep dreaming of exceptionalism and the latter will seek to save from white-America what can be saved:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGSAhNZnisk

    The famous Fukuyama “End of History” is, well, about to come to an end.

    This is extremely good news for Eurasia, where in the 21st century, Europe and China will play exactly the same role as the US and USSR played in the 20th century, conspiring to topple European supremacy of 5 centuries, c.q. toppling Anglo-Zionist supremacy.

    – China will become the new geopolitical #1 and be the ruler of the Pacific world.
    – Germany, in the famous words of UK senior politician Michael Heseltine, will “win WW2 after all”
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/24/lord-heseltine-suggests-brexit-allowing-germany-win-world-war/
    – France will once again fence above its weight and catapult itself into a leading position within PBM and achieve “French grandeur”
    – Russia will morph from being a shabby petrol station masquerading as a country (McCain), into a fully-fledged member of the European Home
    – a down-sized white American heartland will apply for membership of the PBM confederation and be allowed in.
    – as a last step in the geopolitical reconfiguration, Britain will accept defeat of the concept of GLobal-Britain and volunteer for a Norway-role within the European world.

    China may become the #1 power, but will be a lonely power. The white world, whose center of gravity will shift from NYC to PBM, will remain the first address on the planet.

    And the illustrious George Soros chosenite gang? Ah well… they will manage to convert their 100 or so Jericho missiles into ownership of Upstate New York, the New Israel… and plot for the return to global power, some day, in a couple of centuries. No hurry, as dreaming of getting somewhere is so much more fun than actually getting there.

    Must be, we’re the best!

  9. Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 10th May 2020 2:13 am 

    “China flexes its military muscle: Beijing exploits Covid crisis to assert control of strategically vital South China Sea – and the US sends three warships in response”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8304031/China-flexes-military-muscle-Beijing-exploits-Covid-crisis-assert-control-South-China-Sea.html

    Experts fear the South China Sea is where a war involving China, the United States and Russia could begin. China’s defence minister has even said his country would ‘fight at all costs’ if a war occurred with America”

    Note the use of the word “fear”. The clock is ticking towards a Chinese ultimatum for Anglo navies to get lost from the SCS, as a sort of inverse Chinese Monroe doctrine.

    “China’s escalation of war games in the region follows decades of aggression by the Communist government.”

    Haha, if you ignore Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Turkey (failed overthrow attempt of Islamist Erdogan), Egypt (overthrow MBH prez Morsi), Ukraine, Venezuela. So far China only misbehaved in Tibet. Expect more to come: Taiwan, Philippines and eventually the main prize: Australia and New Zealand.

  10. makati1 on Sun, 10th May 2020 2:14 am 

    Cloggie, I can post many articles supporting my assertion. Renewables cannot exist in any useful quantity with out FFs. In your techie blindness, you refuse to consider that fact as a fact. So be it. You dream world will never exist. The one I have described often is already in the making. You will soon see…IF you live thru the next few years.

    http://sunweber.blogspot.com/2011/12/machines-making-machines-making.html

    That is the best one, but your blinders prevent you from seeing ans accepting.

  11. makati1 on Sun, 10th May 2020 2:17 am 

    SRC, your childish ignorance does not require a rebuttal. “Stupid is as stupid does” fits you 100%.

    I didn’t know minors were allowed on this site. Does your mommy know what you are doing between watching porn? LOL

  12. SocialRevolutionComing on Sun, 10th May 2020 2:23 am 

    We, Whites, also have Whites female barbie doll driving truck in the winter snow.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBQHPAWP5Nc

  13. Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 10th May 2020 2:27 am 

    More indications that the military games in Wuhan were the real source of infections:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8303979/When-did-China-know-coronavirus.html

    Wuhan airport drill for passenger with a new type of coronavirus last SEPTEMBER, French athletes falling sick in the city in OCTOBER and a warning by Bat Woman expert A YEAR ago… so when did Covid first erupt in China?

    Not that the DailyFail is going to draw that conclusion. Anglo-Zionist interests only, truth be damned.

    As per usual you can expect the French to pee in the Anglo soup and blow the whistle.lol

    Like with this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeyRwFHR8WY

    Or this:

    https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-07-30/putin-s-pal-gerard-depardieu-isnt-only-foreign-celeb-ukraines-blacklist

    Just to rub it in with empire dave: until I am convincingly instructed otherwise, for the moment I am tentatively adopting the hypothesis that the military games in Wuhan were the most likely source of the global Corona crisis, where US soldiers were intentionally and unknowingly infected with Corona, in an effort to hurt a serious geopolitical competitor in the assumption/hope that the infection would be constrained to China only.

    http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=1438

  14. Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 10th May 2020 3:16 am 

    “I can post many articles supporting my assertion.”

    So far you haven’t. All I remember is that over the years you posted a single blog-post by an old-timer who used to post here infrequently. Forgot the name and link.

    It is that guy against the combined engineering competence of the European Union.

  15. SocialRevolutionComing on Sun, 10th May 2020 3:47 am 

    We Whites have won the genetic race. Bow in front of us brown people:

    We, Whites, also have White female truck driver, dress as a fuck toy/sex object cooking ginger bread wheel loader.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuT4gg-GcQY

    We, Whites, also have Whites female barbie doll driving truck in the winter snow.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBQHPAWP5Nc

  16. makati1 on Sun, 10th May 2020 5:04 am 

    Then your memory is slipping delusional Cloggie. I have posted many articles and facts supporting my assertion over the years. You just choose to ignore them as they don’t fit into your techie dreams. Too bad. Denial of reality does not change it, as you are going to find out.

    That postage stamp sized ‘country’ you inhabit, is going down, along with the rest of the West. Metro Manila has more people. Be patient, and enjoy the ride down. I’m enjoying watching it from far shores, in the EAST. LOL

  17. Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 10th May 2020 5:36 am 

    “Then your memory is slipping delusional Cloggie. I have posted many articles and facts supporting my assertion over the years. You just choose to ignore them as they don’t fit into your techie dreams”

    How much trouble would it have been to post three of those?

    “That postage stamp sized ‘country’ you inhabit, is going down, along with the rest of the West.”

    You mean that “postage stamp” country that founded you, has an agricultural export not that far behind the US and controls the world’s microprocessor technology, is currently building the largest offshore wind park in the world and plays a leading role in the hydrogen economy, none of which will “go down”.

    That “postage stamp country”?

    I have a country, where you fled yours to the third world, to escape the impending collapse. We will lose considerable wealth, for sure, like everybody, but we will continue to exist far into future, once we have dealt with US imposed ethnic communism, after empire, somewhere later this decade.

  18. Davy on Sun, 10th May 2020 6:09 am 

    “Then your memory is slipping delusional Cloggie. I have posted many articles and facts supporting my assertion over the years. You just choose to ignore them as they don’t fit into your techie dreams. Too bad. Denial of reality does not change it, as you are going to find out.”

    LOL, I love when makato and cloggo get into it! Both of you are redundant in your binary agendas that are lower IQ. They could be higher IQ if you two extremist would be more flexible with your UpDown bullshit. I think this is why I love moderating the two of you. You are both so cocky and know it all when the reality is you are a glass half empty in agendas.

    “That postage stamp sized ‘country’ you inhabit, is going down, along with the rest of the West. Metro Manila has more people. Be patient, and enjoy the ride down. I’m enjoying watching it from far shores, in the EAST. LOL”

    LOL, makato, Holland has 3 times the GDP and the difference per capita is off the chart. Go back down to your wet market and buy some bats for your soup stock, you old bat!

  19. Davy on Sun, 10th May 2020 6:14 am 

    Typical spineless EU muddle and the cloggo wants to talk about a huge EU army. LMFAO

    “EU Defends Bowing To Communist Chinese Censors”
    https://summit.news/2020/05/08/eu-defends-bowing-to-communist-chinese-censors/

    “China has state-controlled media. There is censorship, that’s a fact,” EU foreign affairs spokesperson Virginie Battu-Henriksson told reporters in an attempt to justify bowing to the Chinese censors. Henriksson suggested that the EU reluctantly agreed to the amendment because it was better than not being able to communicate with a Chinese audience on ‘key EU issues’, including climate change, human rights and the pandemic response. It is the second time in the space of two weeks that the EU has rolled over for Chinese censorship, having previously softened criticism of the communist regime in a report documenting how governments have pushed “disinformation” about the coronavirus pandemic. The European Union was set to issue the report until Chinese officials “quickly contacted the European Union’s representatives in Beijing to try to kill the report,” according to two diplomats. The EU then “diluted the focus on China, a vital trading partner.” German conservative politician Norbert Roettgen criticised the EU’s actions, stating “I am shocked not once but twice.” “First the EU ambassadors generously adopt Chinese narratives and then the EU representative on top accepts Chinese censorship of the joint op-ed.” he added. “This story beggars belief,” another EU diplomat told Politico, asking “What is the point in letting yourself be censored?” The source urged that it was an “embarrassment” for the EU, adding: “The cost of taking a stand and defending what you believe in would have been very small.”

  20. Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 10th May 2020 7:01 am 

    “Typical spineless EU muddle and the cloggo wants to talk about a huge EU army.”

    Never spoke about a “huge EU army”, only about the integration of existing EU national armies under EU command.

    And what is “spineless” about not accusing China for the virus without proof, if it becomes clearer by the day that the Wuhan military games were probably the source of infection, courtesy US.

  21. Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 10th May 2020 7:08 am 

    “Did European athletes catch coronavirus while competing at World Military Games in Wuhan in OCTOBER? French delegation returned with fevers, after fishmonger is found to have been contaminated in December”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8291755/Did-European-athletes-catch-coronavirus-competing-World-Military-Games-Wuhan-OCTOBER.html

    “SPANISH ATHLETES DISPLAYED CORONAVIRUS SYMPTOMS FOLLOWING THE WORLD MILITARY GAMES IN WUHAN IN OCTOBER 2019”

    https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2020/05/08/spanish-athletes-displayed-coronavirus-symptoms-following-the-world-military-games-in-wuhan-in-october-2019/

    “Chinese State Newspaper Amplifies Conspiracy Theory That First COVID-19 Patient Was U.S. Cyclist”

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2020/03/26/chinese-state-newspaper-stokes-conspiracy-theory-that-first-covid-19-patient-was-us-cyclist/#3299738828dd

    Italians: “Military World Games in Wuhan in focus: “We are all sick””

    https://www.web24.news/u/2020/05/military-world-games-in-wuhan-in-focus-we-are-all-sick.html

    Now let me guess: American, Italian, French, Spanish athletes participating in the Wuhan military games have all eaten a bread roll with bat meat from the wet market.lol

  22. Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 10th May 2020 7:19 am 

    “Typical spineless EU muddle and the cloggo wants to talk about a huge EU army.”

    US army: 1.3 million

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/03/22/us/is-americas-military-big-enough.html

    EU armed personnel: 1.4 million
    (integrated in NATO, where Macron and others want NATO to become US + EU, with EU troops under EU command, not US)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Security_and_Defence_Policy

    Russia army: 0.9 million

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Armed_Forces

    And then there is that quality-of-the-troops thingy… Remember Korea, Vietnam, Somalia, Lebanon, Iraq, Syria?

    https://tinyurl.com/yc6fzcan

    WaPo: “Their Wehrmacht was better than our army”

  23. Hubbert on Sun, 10th May 2020 8:27 am 

    America is just a 3rd world.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXCouo_Ouk4

  24. Sissyfuss on Sun, 10th May 2020 9:47 am 

    Abe van Clog, the fact that the US was financing the Wuhan biolabs work means nobody is innocent and the carelessness of the lab workers adds to the shared blame. We were going to be downsized eventually so the pandemic merely accelerated the inevitability. As in war, the first victim of the pandemic is the truth. What emerges from the ashes of this plague is pure speculation which is your greatest talent, making shit up to to fit your delusions.

  25. Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 10th May 2020 10:14 am 

    “the fact that the US was financing the Wuhan biolabs work means nobody is innocent and the carelessness of the lab workers adds to the shared blame.”

    Again, you assume “carelessness within the Wuhan lab” as the true origin. YOU are speculating.

    The fact that athletes from countries allied to the US reported that they got sick from corona, as early as October, is a fact that won’t go away. Eventually the truth will come out.

  26. whoa whoa supremacist muzzies jerk i know some wrong when a pretty little white girl ran to a black man arms dead giveaway deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed giveaway we ate ribs with this dude on Sun, 10th May 2020 10:24 am 

    the knights of columbus were real headbreakers true guineas 70000 years after an irishman could not get a eff job we got the presidency may he rest in peace. the kennedies were muzie lovers so (((supremetard))) didnt’ favor them and they die slowly of boating accidents, planes, even venereal diseaase from marylin monroe

    but now the irishman is back and whitey supertard president General michael flynn (the honest one) is going to love muzzies and amputate them all. love can be in many forms and bringing muzzies closer to muhamad the pedifler to get virgins and boys is a form of ultimate love.

    one has to wonder why little tiny small big brother joe supertard never mentioned whitey supertard president michael flynn and why the investigation wasn’t about muzzies but that’s the goal, destroy muzzie lovers by going after them in some other ways – like love for putin

    cui bono? one wonder the extend of muzzie infiltration and why did little small tiny big brother joe supertard “reverted” to muzzie like whitey supertard president john brennen

    now it is ramadan and very peaceful. so far 72 kabooms and 262 went to see muhadmad the pedifler. after 15 days, 15 more to go.

  27. peaceful ramadan bombathon day 17 79 kablooms 286 went to see muhadmad the pedifiler on Sun, 10th May 2020 10:28 am 

    .

  28. Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 10th May 2020 10:29 am 

    “More than 1,000 people form a half-mile long queue for free food in Geneva as coronavirus deals an economic hammer blow to notoriously wealthy haven for diplomats”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8304869/More-1-000-people-form-half-mile-long-queue-free-food-Geneva.html

    Ha, I worked there for a year in the nineties for the Red Cross. I befriended an American colleague with whom I walked every day from the Red Cross building to the WHO-HQ-building, that had a better lunch buffet:

    https://tinyurl.com/y8nn7sdq

    Prosperous city, as the illustrious Richard Snowden can confirm, who had a shabby job at the CIA. He was impressed with Swiss wealth:

    https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/permanent-record_key-takeaways-from-snowden-s-book-on-his-geneva-spying/45239584

    Poor Richard, very American, found the Swiss to be racist. Wonder what he thinks of the Russians or other Eastern Europeans.lol

    https://www.thelocal.ch/20130627/snowden-trashes-racist-swiss-on-chat-site

    Now even Geneva has large waiting lines for the soup kitchen. Glad to live in Holland with the largest harbor of the entire Atlantic world. The best food comes in in Rotterdam and is send to Dutch super markets (that still have everything) and the rest is sent to the rest of the EU. Land-locked Switzerland served last.

  29. Duncan Idaho on Sun, 10th May 2020 10:38 am 

    “There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy”

  30. SocialRevolutionComing on Sun, 10th May 2020 10:45 am 

    Even Thailand has food lines

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCK1XpP75w8

    They shut down the whole world supply chain with this COVID hoax. Politicians are just starting to realize what they did. Of course like any good politician they only react to events, they never predict anything right and act ahead. They expect them to fix anything.

  31. peaceful ramadan bombathon day 17 79 kablooms 286 went to see muhadmad the pedifiler thereligionofpeace dot cum on Sun, 10th May 2020 11:19 am 

    the knights of columbus were real headbreakers true guineas 70000 years after an irishman could not get a eff job we got the presidency may he rest in peace. the kennedies were muzie lovers so (((supremetard))) didnt’ favor them and they die slowly of boating accidents, planes, even venereal diseaase from marylin monroe

    but now the irishman is back and whitey supertard president General michael flynn (ready, rumble rumble – the honest one) is going to love muzzies and amputate them all. love can be in many forms and bringing muzzies closer to muhamad the pedifler to get virgins and boys is a form of ultimate love.

    one has to wonder why little tiny small big brother joe supertard never mentioned whitey supertard president michael flynn and why the investigation wasn’t about muzzies but that’s the goal, destroy muzzie lovers by going after them in some other ways – like love for putin

    cui bono? one wonder the extend of muzzie infiltration and why did little small tiny big brother joe supertard “reverted” to muzzie like whitey supertard president john brennen

    know who else “reverted” to a suprmaicst muzzies? prince charles no longer “defender of the faith” for the sake of (((supremetard))) but “defender of faith”. for the sake of supremacist muzzies and love of said muzzies.

    now it is ramadan and very peaceful. so far 79 kabooms and 286 went to see muhadmad the pedifler. after 17 days, 13 more to go.

  32. Duncan Idaho on Sun, 10th May 2020 11:37 am 

    1933 — Germany: Book Burning Day. 25,000 books by Jews & liberals are publicly burned by Nazis, Berlin. Also today, Socialist parties are prohibited in Nazi Germany.

  33. Duncan Idaho on Sun, 10th May 2020 12:07 pm 

    “The government leaders who failed to safeguard the nation are CDC Director Redfield; FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn; Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar; and of course, President Trump. Together, these men had the power to change the direction of this pandemic, to lessen its impact on the economy, and constrain the death toll from COVID-19. Each failed, in a series of errors and mismanagement that grew into a singular catastrophe — or as Jared Kushner described it on Fox & Friends, “a great success story.”

  34. JuanP on Sun, 10th May 2020 12:36 pm 

    Thailand has food lines

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCK1XpP75w8

    They shut down the whole world supply chain with this COVID hoax. Politicians are just starting to realize what they did. Of course like any good politician they only react to events, they never predict anything right and act ahead. They expect them to fix anything.

  35. JuanP on Sun, 10th May 2020 12:50 pm 

    My depression is acting up so I will not be commenting for a few days.

    Thanks for you sympathy

    J

  36. Dredd on Sun, 10th May 2020 1:01 pm 

    “From Overstretch to Collapse”

    Never try to describe ‘over’ until you master ‘under’ (On The Origin of the Genes of Viruses – 14).

  37. Davy on Sun, 10th May 2020 2:48 pm 

    My depression is acting up so I will not be commenting for a few days.

    Go to hell fuckwacks. Thanks for nothing.

  38. penury on Sun, 10th May 2020 3:06 pm 

    The fatal decay of this site is obvious today to anyone who tries to read the obvious crap that was printed.

  39. makati1 on Sun, 10th May 2020 6:01 pm 

    While Amerika steals med supplies from other countries, China supplies help and supplies.

    https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/05/11/chinas-support-for-epidemic-to-win-extensive-acclaim/

    Who will look more to China in the future than to the Terrorist US? The Philippines for one.

  40. Anonymouse on Sun, 10th May 2020 7:35 pm 

    My depression is acting up so I will not be commenting for a few days.

    Go to hell foockwacks. Thanks for nothing.

  41. makati1 on Sun, 10th May 2020 7:37 pm 

    While China steals med supplies from other countries, America supplies help and supplies.

    https://news.fake.com.ph/2020/05/11/chinas-support-for-epidemic-to-win-extensive-acclaim/

    Who will look more to America in the future than to the Terrorist Chinks? The Philippines for one.

  42. makati1 on Sun, 10th May 2020 7:38 pm 

    The China debt is on its way to the moon. Nothing can stop it now except a total collapse of the country. Suicide by printing press. Next stop, Zimbabwe and a wheel barrow of cash to buy a loaf of bread. Hmm.

  43. Anonymouse on Sun, 10th May 2020 7:40 pm 

    Exactly, Mak. 330,000,000 people are in jail in the kanada because .0002% died from something and was tested positive for the virus. It’s really an Insanity virus caught by all the petty dictators around the world who see it as a power grab.

    The total dead is the number who die from suicide and auto accidents every year there. Heart disease takes more than seven times that many but obesity is still rising in Kanada

    All I can say is, they deserve slavery if they are too lazy to stop it.

  44. makati1 on Sun, 10th May 2020 7:42 pm 

    Hmm. … the US debt is on its way to the moon…

    China’s debt is going to be OK and China will move forward as the US moved backward.

  45. Anonymouse on Sun, 10th May 2020 7:56 pm 

    In case it wasnt obvious enough, Demented davy is playing his ID theft games @ 7:40.

    Why? because he is mentally ill, thats why. And nutters do things like that. Socking, stalking and stealing the IDs of the intelligent posters all day long. With this Plandemic going on, the chances of getting him into a mental institution so he can get the help he needs, are looking pretty remote. And by help he needs, I mean a cocktail of anti-psychotics with all sorts of horrible side-effects.

  46. makati1 on Sun, 10th May 2020 8:07 pm 

    Anon, we can only hope he catches the virus and suffers very painful…

  47. Duncan Idaho on Sun, 10th May 2020 8:51 pm 

    It’s the combination of ineptitude and corruption that’s killing us.

  48. whoa supremacist muzzies jerk oh my goodness oh my daym burger going ham the cheese the fries fit so perfectly you know the difference between a weak burger and a burger that has strength when you bite the meat fills all spaces daym daym daym on Sun, 10th May 2020 9:11 pm 

    this is my master treaties. i don’t waste time on this forum. it’s lame. this treaties is about love for supremacist muzzies
    muzzie bribe went with isis to make babies and now want to go back. what the world going to. this is ok but supertard big muzzie beard SAWS swt pbuh is banned from UK and harrassed by AA.
    muzzie curse kufar in vice documentary about ramadan but subtitle is excluded for the love of supremacist muzzie. this happens in deerfield michigan. muzzie said it’s peaceful but at the end acted as if typical soft and cudly muzzies do. very ironic
    the knights of columbus were real headbreakers true guineas 70000 years after an irishman could not get a fking job we got the presidency may he rest in peace. the kennedys were muzie lovers so (((supremetard))) didnt’ extend protection to them so they died slowly of alcoholism, venerial dieases given by marilyn monroe or some boating accident.

    Stop rite here if u don’t agree with above. I’m tryna save u time cuz you’re not ready to proceed. U need to spit out the muzzie ck because it interfers with ur thinking. When you’re done enjoying muzzie ck, come back and continue

    but now the irishman is back and whitey supertard president general michael flynn (the honest one) is going to love muzzies and amputate them all. love can be in many forms and bringing muzzies closer to muhamad the pedifler to get virgins and boys is a form of ultimate love.
    one has to wonder why little tiny small big brother joe supertard never mentioned whitey supertard president general michael flynn and why the investigation wasn’t about muzzies but that’s the goal, destroy muzzie lovers by going after them in some other ways – like love for putin
    cui bono? one wonder the extend of muzzie infiltration and why did little small tiny big brother joe supertard “reverted” to muzzie like whitey supertard president john brennen
    now it is ramadan and very peaceful. so far 73 kabooms and 269 went to see muhadmad the pedifler. after 16 days, 14 more to go. Thank you supertard glenn roberts thereligionofpeace dot com
    muzzies get extra credits during this time so when they go for your neck, muzzie only being friendly. this actual advice is not mine though
    and now the muzzielove virus with corona. corona is a (((supremetard))) beer. pay close attention, there’s a cross in the logo. so why muzzies destroy it? we need to go back to whitey supertard scientfic supremacist “thunderf00t” who should be amputated for muzzie lovin and spreading scientific supremacism. when this whitey supertard imposed self quarantine i said it smellz. that was many moons ago and i was first as usual to smell BS 20000 light years away.
    then we have whitey supertard “royal” instituiotn who ran model predicting muzzielove virus. then admited it wrong and went to boink married gf and lost job.
    ask yourslef if someone speak exclusively high british english, chances are they love muzzies? of course they love muzies and that’s why i’m pushing low english. it’s more trustworthy. muzzies benefits in all this.
    churches closed but muzzie mosque open. and all the rapes in UK was “by all ethics” no mention of muzzies which brexit about to amputate.

    Muzzie worked for mayo clinic said kill may kufar. Wonder if your parents or relatives come in hospital get “treated” by muzzies and head straight to the morgue? Yep, you can’t keep track of everything about yourself, not mentioning your relatives.
    This lockdown is a trial run, imagine what a supremacist muzzie lockdown will be like. Big sys in bags everywhere roaming the street and the rest of us are hunted door to door. Thanks to americans who stock up tons of LUKE 22:36. Bless are those who are bitter clingers. Ain’t nothing wrong with bitter clingers, I love ‘em all. This makes it easy when we amputate supremaicst muzzies starting with muzzie imams.
    Why are Americans well armed but unable to take action. The answer: the inteligensia whitey supertards love muzzie ck so much they’re like alcoholics whose sole existence is to wait for another serving of muzzie ck. If they get off the medication so called muzzie ck and lead the masses, this thing would be over in 5 minutes. One can say one muzzie ear worth $1 and people would love to go for it for sports. Instead right now they serve big sys and lock themselves at 10,000 acres and promote goatse.
    supertard big muzzie beard SAWS pbuh swt reported muzzies in ger comprise of 40% of jizya payment to the tune of 4 billion euros per month. with that money they could go REAL GREEN or FAKE GREEN, it doesn’t matter that would’d been prosperious without the rapey rapey and stabby muzzies. The scale of jizya is incredible. it’s all out in the open if you just listen to the UK muzzie andy choudary.
    muzzie sabotage airliner and got loved 1000x in the form of reporting of “union dispute”. supertard big muzzie beard SAWS pbuh swtreported it’s actually jihad.
    Then in astralia muzzie with big grin and smug looking face with a hat and meat grinder practically begged to be amputated and put on muzzie hamster wheel. cops love him 100000x more and are puzzled why he did this. i’m scratching my head too which has thinning hair
    Muzzie in NZ allah acbar and went after cop with axe. Cops loved muzzie 10000x love conquer all. No tweet AOC SAWS pbuh swt , not siri Lanka, not when muzzie shot 6 cops on philadelphia. 25 billion tweet on Christchurch though
    then there we deceptions of deep green, real green, deep deep green, fake fake green, and all the permutations of green. when AOC SAWS pbuh swt – (ZOMG i’m amazed at the technology in a sink food grinder) failed, the greta SAWS pbuh swt deception kicked in. I belived everything even the fantastic flying goat story.
    And now AOC is licking her chops with text on video “rent cancellation”. ZOMG do people have no shame at all? What does it say about the majority of hard working spanish people? This lib will set the stereotype for all spanish people.
    for many years, centuries, million, quadrillion of years since (((supremetard))) SAWS pbuh swt created heaven and earth and before supertards SAWS pbuh swt big muzzie beard and glenn roberts put up web sites, i warned tards and supertards about muzzies.
    i made no progress sort of like banging head against concrete, concrete wins everytime
    but then i “reverted” to a supremacist muzzie jerk and I’m the best of humanity allah has created. i wear a muzzie dress and i pee sitting down holding up the bathroom line. this made supertard SAWS pbuh swt have bladder infection but the love for muzzies only intensified.
    and now i have superpower, big goat SAWS pbuh swt is feeling intense heat. all stops are pulled it seems – even Robert Inget the controlled libtard opposition is deployed to censor me. but uppertard SAWS pbuh swt is not going to destroy free speech for someones love of muzzie. supertard SIS SAWS pbuh swt dropped the appeal and that’s final. it’s now as good as case law. supertard SIS SAWS pbuh is back being occupied with his bunker and learjet and auto keltecs and he said absolutely do not bother him. so it’s set in stone that uppertard SAWS swt pbuh is not going to modify this forum

  49. Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 10th May 2020 9:47 pm 

    “Anon, we can only hope he catches the virus and suffers very painful…”

    Ouch makati, that is below your normal level. What happened to your mildness-of-old-age?

  50. makati1 on Sun, 10th May 2020 9:52 pm 

    It does not work around fools…

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