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Erdogan blames Saudi state for Khashoggi murder
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said the order for journalist Jamal Khashoggi’s killing came from the “highest levels” of the Saudi government but said he does not believe King Salman ordered the hit.
In an opinion piece in the Washington Post, Erdogan said that Saudi Arabia still has many questions to answer about the death of Khashoggi.
“We must reveal the identities of the puppet masters behind Khashoggi’s killing”, Erdogan wrote adding that Turkey has “moved heaven and earth to shed light on all aspects of this case”.
“We are shocked and saddened by the efforts of certain Saudi officials to cover up Khashoggi’s premeditated murder, rather than serve the cause of justice, as our friendship would require,” Erdogan said.
Khashoggi, 59, a Washington Post columnist and critic of the powerful Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, disappeared after entering the Saudi consulate on October 2.
A Turkish prosecutor said on Wednesday that Khashoggi was strangled and dismembered soon after he walked into the Saudi consulate.
The case has provoked international condemnation, but one month after Khashoggi was killed, the joint Turkish and Saudi probe has made little progress and many questions remain unanswered.
Erdogan expressed dismay that Khashoggi’s body has not been found and urged Saudi Arabia to explain who ordered the killing and also to identify the “local collaborator” to whom Saudi officials said they handed over Khashoggi’s remains.
“Unfortunately, the Saudi authorities have refused to answer those questions,” Erdogan said.
In a sign of cooperating, a top Saudi prosecutor flew to Turkey on Monday and met the Istanbul chief prosecutor, but Turkey’s justice minister has since accused the Saudis of failing to answer questions regarding the case.
“Though Riyadh has detained 18 suspects, it is deeply concerning that no action has been taken against the Saudi consul general, who lied through his teeth to the media and fled Turkey shortly afterwards,” Erdogan said.
“Likewise, the refusal of the Saudi public prosecutor – who recently visited his counterpart in Istanbul – to cooperate with the investigation and answer even simple questions is very frustrating. His invitation of Turkish investigators to Saudi Arabia for more talks about the case felt like a desperate and deliberate stalling tactic.”
Etyen Mahcupyan, a Turkish political analyst and former adviser to ex-AK Party leader Ahmet Davutoglu said that Erdogan has taken an aggressive stance in his op-ed, but has made sure to keep good relations with Saudi Arabia.
“He doesn’t want to disrupt everything and lose Saudi Arabia. Turkey does not want to lose Saudi Arabia at the end of the day,” Mahcupyan said.
“He’s kind of threatening Saudi Arabia, maybe blackmailing a bit in a soft way, but he’s giving the message that Turkey wants to go on with having good relations with Saudi Arabia.
“It gives leverage to Turkey to be used by Erdogan, but it’s not something very ideological or something that will cost him his principles. This is foreign policy.”
Erdogan also displayed more conciliatory language in the op-ed, stressing the “friendly relations” between Saudi Arabia and Turkey and stating that he had “no reason to believe that this murder reflected Saudi Arabia’s official policy”.
Erdogan has previously said that the killing of Khashoggi was planned by Saudi officials days in advance.
Hilal Kaplan, a columnist at pro-government Turkish newspaper Daily Sabah, said that with this op-ed, Erdogan is trying to keep the Khashoggi case in the international spotlight.
She noted that Turkey has done a great job in shedding light on many details as information was steadily leaked to the media over the past month.
“With this communications strategy, Turkey was able to control the narrative and keep the Khashoggi murder in the headlines while the public debate continued as the investigation moved along,” Kaplan said.
“This pressured the Saudis to accept the fact that this was a premeditated murder.
“They were in flat denial at first, but then after changing their story several times, they had to accept [this fact].”
Kaplan added that although Erdogan doesn’t mention Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman’s (MBS) name and has always emphasized his respect and good intentions towards King Salman, the Turkish president implied in the op-ed that the crown prince is the one who gave the order.
“The crown prince most probably knew about this, he ordered this. At least 5 of the 15 members of the death squad are in the royal guard. And the head of the death squad, [reportedly] made four calls to MBS’ office on the day of the murder,” Kaplan said.
“All evidence points to him, not anyone else.”
US media reported on Thursday that MBS described Khashoggi as a “dangerous Islamist” in a phone call with Jared Kushner and John Bolton, US President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and national security adviser respectively, days after Khashoggi’s disappearance and before Saudi Arabia publicly acknowledged his killing.
Kaplan said that the call, which was reported by the New York Times and the Washington Post, was an attempt by MBS to justify the killing of Khashoggi.
Saudi Arabia has denied the media reports.
Last week Trump said that MBS bears ultimate responsibility for the operation that led to the murder of Khashoggi.
When questioned about the possible involvement of MBS in an interview with the Wall Street Journal, Trump said, “Well, the prince is running things over there more so at this stage.
“He’s running things and so if anybody were going to be, it would be him.”
60 Comments on "Erdogan blames Saudi state for Khashoggi murder"
boney joe on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 3:40 pm
According to Davy, “There’s the possibility that the dregs of a defeated Democratic Party will just go batshit crazy and use the last of its mojo to incite actual sedition.”
At least davy has dropped all pretenses of being “neutral, fair, balanced”-LOL.
Now, let’s compare Davy’s “allegations” to reality according to Business Insider (notice a variety of reputable media sources vs. the Davy go to sources of either ZeroHedge or the Kunt).
Business Insider: Far-right extremists have killed close to 500 people in the US since 1990 — and 10% were targeted based on religion.
https://www.businessinsider.com/far-right-extremists-have-killed-500-people-in-the-us-since-1990-2018-11
Davy on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 3:50 pm
BJ, far right extremist are no better than bat shit crazy liberals. What is your point? I am looking for centrist as a voter. Is there something wrong with that?
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 3:53 pm
BJ
Great points..Davy is just another uneducated nut job right winger..He just makes up lies about the left..He will say they are just as bad without showing any proof..
Just ignore him and maybe he will have a heart attack already..
Davy on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 4:32 pm
MOB
FYI
BJ=JuanP
DUMBASS
boney joe on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 6:48 pm
I AM THE MOB: Just ignore him and maybe he will have a heart attack already.
One can only hope although institutionalization in a state facility or, if not too far gone, a rest home is more likely in the short term.
Can you imagine what your life would be like if you received a Davy brain? The cognitive dissonance alone would be enough to drive any man over the cliff.
Davy on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 6:55 pm
NUTTER ALERT
BJ = JUANp
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 7:15 pm
Davy
Takes one to know one, right?
Davy on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 7:23 pm
In your case, yes
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 7:25 pm
Winter is Coming
https://i.redd.it/5w7bzwg2g4w11.jpg
Mueller is going to bring the hammer down on the great orange haired meat puppet!
deadly on Sat, 3rd Nov 2018 11:05 pm
MBS just went on a hunting trip, hunted down an enemy and killed him.
Khashoggi should have been a violinist in an orchestra.
Nothing to see, move along.
Here we go again on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 6:47 am
SA killed him…now what!? Same as it ever was….sorry..he should of not gone into the embassy… obviously…
Cloggie on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 6:50 am
Mueller is going to bring the hammer down on the great orange haired meat puppet!
Trump has a lot of support among the white population.
You sure you want to promote this, millikike?
#300MillionFirearms
#110
Davy on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 7:03 am
“Mueller is going to bring the hammer down on the great orange haired meat puppet!”
The Mueller is being exposed as a fraud. Mueller represents dirty politics at its best.
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 8:27 am
Davy and Clogg
I just had to set my clocks back an hour for daylight savings time..
If you two could go ahead and set yours 60 years ahead, and join the rest of us, that would be great..
Sissyfuss on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 8:31 am
If Mueller had anything of import he would have revealed it by now. He’s living large on the Feds dime and refuses to give up his 15 minutes. He has McKellens ” slows.”
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 8:38 am
Davy and Clogg
Mueller was just waiting till after the mid terms..So he couldn’t be accused to influencing the elections..We both know Trump is a tax cheat that is why he wont release his taxes..
Soon..
https://imgur.com/a/l6YInBY
Davy on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 9:01 am
MOB, I like to see a clean sweep in DC on both sides. Let’s start over and maybe with three parties. The problem with Trump for me is the polarization. Radical liberals like you that have ruined the Democratic Party with your uncivil behavior are give strength by Trump’s presence. If we had someone from either side that was not such a lightning rod it would do us all good. We have serious problems ahead. We don’t need political division. That said I am not optimistic. Battle lines have been drawn. Voices of reason squelched. MOB, you are a prime example of what is wrong with politics today.
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 10:03 am
Davy
Give it a rest Grandpa..Enough with your bullshit false equivalency of “both sides” are to blame..
All you can do is parrot right wing talking points..
The main driver of the political divide is income inequality..I had a whole section on this in my manifesto..(see chart 32 below)
And which party refuses to raise wages and just gave the largest tax break to the rich ever and made the problem worse?
Both sides my arse!
https://imgur.com/a/pYxKa
Davy on Sun, 4th Nov 2018 10:58 am
“false equivalency of “both sides” are to blame..”
Sorry MOB, your data set is way too big to charge false equivalency.
All you can do is parrot right wing talking points..
?, please examples?
“The main driver of the political divide is income inequality..”
Total BS, both right and left have wealth segments but then there is the middle many of whom are independent. There is only a small number of you extremist who cause 90% of the trouble.
“I had a whole section on this in my manifesto..(see chart 32 below)”
LMFAO at the MOB MANIFESTO
“And which party refuses to raise wages and just gave the largest tax break to the rich ever and made the problem worse?”
MOB is so naïve. He doesn’t realize his liberal elite is where the big money is also. The Blue archipelago of wealthy coastal urban areas and island in the interior is where the concentration of money is. These are both conservative and liberal but here is where liberal power is. The first at the feed trough of the money slop are the ones who benefit the most from wealth. Liberals are right there too. The tax cut mostly benefited corporations anyway many of which are owned by liberals. MOB, you are an economic and finance illiterate. You are a political extremist. As a person you are a rude SLOB.
Anonymouse on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 12:59 am
Nutter Alert!
Mushmind = I AM THE DAVYTURD = The Exceptionalturd
Davy on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 4:40 am
Anonymouse can’t you see you are now irrelevant? Your gang has disbanded and you are alone to play your delusional sock cop games. You really are mentally unhinged and board noise.
boney joe on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 4:44 am
“If Mueller had anything of import he would have revealed it by now. He’s living large on the Feds dime”
Do you have special access to the strategy sessions of the states attorney? Mueller is taking down the guilty parties one by one. The guilty parties are then flipped to bolster the case against Dump. Mueller has a well deserved reputation for building bullet-proof cases with a 93% conviction rate history.
Careful with premature predictions and cheap shots or risk looking like a fool.
Davy on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 4:59 am
BJ, how about a reference for 93% conviction rate? “Guilty parties are being flipped”…LMFAO. Sure anyone can be flipped by dirty legal tricks and the flipping used as a poker game of legally devious tactics that really are little more than gaming of human nature. The truth is not so much important as the ends of a conviction or in Mueller’s case a trashing of the checks and balances of the constitution to achieving an overturning of the will of the people. Mueller has veered wildly from his original mandate of purpose and time frame. He is a mad man dressed in a suit of respectability and supported and likely directed by criminal deep state activity. I loathe his appearance when I see him. The MSM always present him as respectable and shiny white and clean. His guilty parties as guilty looking. This behavior is disgusting and the reason the Democratic Party is going down the drain.
Davy on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 5:30 am
“Papadopoulos Details Alleged Entrapment Scheme By Undercover Deep State Agents”
https://tinyurl.com/y7tslx33
“George Papadopoulos – a central figure and self-admitted dupe in the Obama administration’s targeted spying on the Trump campaign, gave a wide-ranging interview to Dan Bongino on Friday, detailing what he claims to have been a setup by deep state operatives across the world in order to ultimately infiltrate the Trump campaign.”
For everyone following closely: the same days I meet Joseph Mifsud, Peter Strzok texts Lisa Page about his overseas contact: “his guy talking now.” Now new info shows that Strzok’s boss, Priestrap, was in London the day before Downer begins to try and set me up. Coincidence? — George Papadopoulos (@GeorgePapa19) November 4, 2018 Also, Congress needs to further understand why Bill Priestap, Strzok’s boss, flew into London the day before I meet Downer. Was downer being run by our intel? I believe so. — George Papadopoulos (@GeorgePapa19) November 4, 2018
Halper essentially began interrogating Papadopoulos, saying that it’s “obviously in your interest to be working with the Russians” and to “hack emails.” “You’re complicit with Russia in this, isn’t that right George” Halper told him. Halper also inquired about Hillary’s hacked emails, insinuating that Papadopoulos possessed them. Papadopoulos denied knowing anything about this and asked to be left alone. -Bongino.com
Hons: @RepMarkMeadows and @RepRatcliffe I am more than happy to deliver the $10,000 in cash I received, as part of what I believe was a sting operation to frame me in summer 2017,to your committee to examine for marked bills. This is in the interest of me being fully transparent. — George Papadopoulos (@GeorgePapa19) October 31, 2018 The two Republicans are members of a congressional task force investigating the FBI’s investigation into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. The task force interviewed Papadopoulos on Oct. 25. Papadopoulos acknowledged in his interview with Bongino that his claims about his encounters with an Israeli-American businessman named Charles Tawil were “an incredible, insane story.” “But it’s true,” he asserted. Papadopoulos told Bongino the he believes that Tawil “was working on behalf of Western intelligence to entrap me.” Papadopoulos does not have direct evidence that Tawil was working on behalf of a Western government when they met in March and July 2017. Instead, Papadopoulos is speculating based on what he says is the peculiar circumstances of his encounters with Tawil as well as his meetings with at least one known FBI informant. -Daily Caller
“If the $10,000 is traced to the Obama DOJ/administration, then we have a massive can of worms that just opened. I will make sure congress has the opportunity to review for marked bills and investigate who authorized an entrapment operation against an American citizen. — George Papadopoulos (@GeorgePapa19) November 4, 2018”
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 6:31 am
Davy
Overturning the will of the people? Trump lost by over 3 million votes..
You are so dumb and brainwashed by far right propaganda..
You are as dumb as they come..
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 6:35 am
Davy
The reason the democratic party is going down the drain is because the US economy is in a depression and headed for collapse..You can’t have an open and tolerant society, unless your living standards continuously improve..
You are so ignorant of social science..Maybe if you would have worked hard and gone to college, maybe you would have learned about these things.. But why work hard when you can just suck the teet of Mommy and daddy, like Trump..
You both are an example of someone born on third base who strolls home thinking they hit a home run.
Davy on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 6:41 am
“Davy Overturning the will of the people? Trump lost by over 3 million votes..”
Last I understood that what elections are. Trump may have lost the popular vote but he won the Electoral College. That is what was set up by the constitution wasn’t it? BTW, 3MIL votes? How accurate is that considering likely election fraud but lets assume it is accurate then we need to consider where it came from.
“It’s Official: Clinton’s Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California”
https://tinyurl.com/yba2ywte
“Democrats who are having trouble getting out of the first stage of grief — denial — aren’t being helped by the fact that, now that all the votes are counted, Hillary Clinton’s lead in the popular vote has topped 2.8 million, giving her a 48% share of the vote compared with Trumps 46%. To those unschooled in how the United States selects presidents, this seems totally unfair. But look more closely at the numbers and you see that Clinton’s advantage all but disappears. As we noted in this space earlier, while Clinton’s overall margin looks large and impressive, it is due to Clinton’s huge margin of vicBut California is the exception that proves the true genius of the Electoral College — which was designed to prevent regional candidates from dominating national elections.tory in one state — California — where she got a whopping 4.3 million more votes than Trump.”
“If you take California out of the popular vote equation, then Trump wins the rest of the country by 1.4 million votes. And if California voted like every other Democratic state — where Clinton averaged 53.5% wins — Clinton and Trump end up in a virtual popular vote tie.”
Davy on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 6:56 am
“The reason the democratic party is going down the drain is because the US economy is in a depression and headed for collapse..”
More stupidity from the board economic illiterate. We are not in a depression, stupid. Nobody but the dumbest think this kind of talk. That is not to say we are not in deep shit.
“You can’t have an open and tolerant society, unless your living standards continuously improve..”
More nonsense, while it is likely wealth inequality will destroy a tolerant society there is a time factor involved. It does not happen overnight as you would like. MOB, you are so far invested in an immediate collapse to justify your joyride of quitting work and antifa-ing. You will say anything to indicate a complete collapse is near. It won’t be long you will be broke and destitute unless you are living in mom’s basement which is probably the case and if so she needs to kick you out. Just more extremism from a board extremist fool.
‘You are so ignorant of social science..Maybe if you would have worked hard and gone to college, maybe you would have learned about these things..”
I did go to college and graduated cum laude in Finance. Every indication I see is that you didn’t although you have said you are a Chemistry PHD LMFAO.
“But why work hard when you can just suck the teet of Mommy and daddy, like Trump..”
OOoo, you hurt me MOB, LOL, when you say such things I say mission accomplished and another extremist fool is wounded and whining.
“You both are an example of someone born on third base who strolls home thinking they hit a home run.”
You don’t know shit about my life MOB. I have told you some of it but not the whole story. I have told more in the past until this place become toxic with extremist.
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 7:03 am
Ocasio-Cortez Calls Trump Impeachment a ‘No Brainer’
https://www.westernjournal.com/ocasio-cortez-calls-trump-impeachment-no-brainer/
Cloggie on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 8:22 am
This airhead passes as a Dems “hopeful”:
https://goo.gl/images/wmKWr7
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 8:36 am
Clogg
She is a cutie and a socialist! Which means free loving!
Something your ass doens’t know anything about..
LMFAO!
Davy on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 8:41 am
MOB, so now you are a socialist? I thought you were an antifa?
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 8:57 am
My grandfather fought the Nazi’s..
Now it’s my turn!
Cloggie on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 9:10 am
I have hou deloused before you can say Hitler.
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 9:42 am
Trump is a clownish and embarrassing tool of the kleptocrats. His faux populism is a sham. Only the rich like his tax cuts, his refusal to raise the minimum wage and his effort to destroy Obamacare. All he has left is hate.
-Chris Hedges
Duncan Idaho on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 11:01 am
“All he has left is hate.”
Seems like a Repug campaign strategy.
Seems to be working with the Right.
Davy on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 12:20 pm
“All they has left is hate.”
Seems like a dem campaign strategy.
Seems to be working with the extremist liberal left.
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 12:26 pm
Davy
Real sophisticated argument..
You Jesus freaks and god believers are as dumb as they come..
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 12:27 pm
Simple really….when the World Economy Collapses everything shuts down…the end… We’re talking about grids down all over the world and 7.5B people dropping like f*** flies in short order. The collapse will be absolutely horrible..There is no collapse or horror movie ever produced that has even come close to imagining what the collapse of BAU might look like. I’m talking about every corporation and every social program going bankrupt at once. I’m talking about people eating people. I’m talking about the Worst Catastrophe to ever happen in the history of mankind. Nothing has ever, or will ever come close…(Meadows, 1972) (Motesharrei, 2014) (Turchin, 2010) (Ehrlich, 2013) (Turner, 2014) (Korowicz, 2012)
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/apocalypse-soon-has-civilization-passed-the-environmental-point-of-no-return/
https://www.nature.com/articles/463608a
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800914000615
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3574335/
https://www.scribd.com/document/379418787/Is-Global-Collapse-Imminent-An-Updated-Comparison-of-The-Limits-to-Growth-with-Historical-Data-Turner-2014
http://www.feasta.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Trade-Off1.pdf
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 3:06 pm
The wealth of America’s three richest families grew by 6,000% since 1982
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/31/us-wealthiest-families-dynasties-governed-by-rich?fbclid=IwAR16ZD6b_g8YEPuVFJItb0UPK-rfZbntFuezR9YR68C7VyVTbod9Kq0q5zw
At least it’s all gathered in a few places for us to take
boney joe on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 4:21 pm
Davy is always the ugly, predictable hater and fear monger
It’s all he and his morally bankrupt Republicon party have left.
Hell, his party has butchered 500 innocent Americans since 1990, yet he whines about Democrats. Let’s see 500 dead to 0. That’s it in a nutshell.
Davy on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 4:58 pm
None of the posts after 7:00 am today were mine.
Anyone that is a regular here knows that I take several hours off once every three years or so to stock up on food and supplies. Today was that day.
Davy on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 5:29 pm
Jesus taught us to love our enemies.
You are my enemy boneyjuan, so I love you with all my heart.
Davy on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 5:47 pm
“NUTTER ALERT” JUANP PUPPEERING
boney joe on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 4:21 pm Davy is always the ugly, predictable hater and fear monger
It’s all he and his morally bankrupt Republicon party have left. Hell, his party has butchered 500 innocent Americans since 1990, yet he whines about Democrats. Let’s see 500 dead to 0. That’s it in a nutshell.
Davy on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 5:47 pm
“NUTTER ALERT” JUANP IDENTITY THEFT
Davy on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 4:58 pm None of the posts after 7:00 am today were mine.
Anyone that is a regular here knows that I take several hours off once every three years or so to stock up on food and supplies. Today was that day.
Davy on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 5:29 pm
Jesus taught us to love our enemies. You are my enemy boneyjuan, so I love you with all my heart.
Davy on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 6:13 pm
“NUTTER ALERT” JUANP SPIRITUAL FRAUD
Jesus did not teach us to love our enemies, he taught us that true spiritual leaders like me can hate anyone I want. So there.
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 6:16 pm
For the first time since the Cuban crisis, nuclear war threat is real – Stephen Cohen
https://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/443105-us-arms-treaty-russia/
Stephen Chohen: “…the United States left the even more important Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, Bush withdrew in 2002. That was the bedrock of Russian and American national security. That was folly.”
Russia has played this badly since the beginning, and the beginning was the US abrogation of the ABM treaty in 2002.
They underestimated the relentless nature of the Pentagon. It is a Terminator, it has a prime directive, and it will not stop.
Now Russia looks up, and almost out-of-the-blue and without their consent, finds itself surrounded by ABMs and other first strike weapon systems, and sees also that the United States has cavalierly TRASHED Mutual Assured Destruction and replaced it with Nuclear Primacy.*
The Russian caught on way too late. Could they have done something, earlier? I don’t know, but I do know they sleepwalked themselves right into their hopeless situation.
Mother Russia is going to be annihilated soon..
boney joe on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 7:33 pm
Davy: “The pipe bombs sent to the leaders of the Democratic party is a false flag attempt by Democrats to throw the election.”
Where did Davy obtain this “breaking news” conspiracy? From none other than Rush “The Drugster” Limbaugh.
But no worries. I’m always “neutral, fair, and balanced”.
Of course, Davy, we know, we know the truth by now. You big faker.
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 7:50 pm
BJ
Davy is a nut job fear monger who is obsessed with zerohedge..I guess he needs a site like that to match his distorted worldview..
boney joe on Mon, 5th Nov 2018 10:20 pm
IAM:
He’s a very sick and twisted individual, that’s for sure, but fairly mainstream for a Republicon, brother.
I have concluded that an essential element of being a Republicon is self-loathing.