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Donald Trump is venturing Thursday into what is uncharted territory for most presidential candidates: North Dakota, the heart of America’s oil boom.
And the oil industry is eager to hear what the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee is going to say at an oil conference he’s addressing Thursday afternoon in Bismarck.
The businessman has not made expansive remarks about energy policy during the presidential campaign so far, leaving many wondering where he comes down on a host of issues. Industry leaders and environmentalists have been forced to glean information from Mr. Trump’s sporadic comments, such as how he’d want to take some of the profits from the Keystone XL pipeline and how he’d back corn ethanol despite the oil industry’s opposition.
“Well, I think I do support Trump,” said Ron Ness, president of the North Dakota Petroleum Council, which is hosting the conference, when asked if he supports the candidate. “I’m looking forward to hearing his policy.”
Many oil executives previously opted to back other GOP hopefuls who had clearer and more established pro-oil positions, such as former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, both of whom dropped out of the race months ago.
“I was kind of a Marco Rubio supporter for quite a while,” Mr. Ness said.
Republican Rep. Kevin Cramer, North Dakota’s only congressman, is advising the Trump campaign and has submitted white papers encouraging policies that, as Mr. Trump might say, put America – specifically states – first.
In a recent interview, Mr. Cramer said such policies include repealing a raft of environmental regulations, including the Environmental Protection Agency’s rule cutting carbon emissions from power plants, and ensuring other countries and entities, namely the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries or OPEC, don’t put the U.S. at an oil price disadvantage.
Mr. Cramer has sponsored a bill that would create a commission to investigate whether OPEC is illegally manipulating oil prices.
“We should be prepared to make sure that everyone, to the degree that we can, is playing by the same set of rules, or at least not manipulating the rules,” said Mr. Cramer.
Some might see such policies, like other Trump foreign policy goals, as confrontational. Mr. Cramer said he isn’t prejudging OPEC but that “forming a commission sends a message to the marketplace that we’re keeping an eye out.”
North Dakota is at the heart of the U.S. oil boom. Between 2006 and 2015, the state’s oil production went from under 150,000 barrels a day to a peak of 1.2 million barrels, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.
Overall U.S. oil production nearly doubled over that same time period, with a peak of 9.7 million barrels of oil a day in April 2015. Production has since declined to about 9.1 million barrels, amid a drop in global oil prices since 2014.
Mr. Ness said that in 2006 the conference he’s hosting Thursday attracted 500 people. This year, he expects about 2,500 attendees, down from a peak of 4,300 in 2014. He expects roughly 7,500 to attend Mr. Trump’s speech.
“Certainly with the industry downturn, we think that’s fabulous,” Mr. Ness said in interview before the conference.
Mr. Trump hasn’t been entirely sympathetic to the oil industry battered by low prices.
Speaking at a rally in Dallas in September, the businessman said that he has “so many friends in the energy business,” but he went on to dismiss their recent hardships. Oil companies and related industries have faced a series of bankruptcies and have laid off thousands of people over the past year.
“They are great people, they are working. They are not as rich as they were about two months ago, but these are minor details,” Mr. Trump said, prompting laughter from the crowd. “They will be fine.”
54 Comments on "Donald Trump Address to Oil Industry"
makati1 on Thu, 26th May 2016 8:53 pm
Promise of politicians, especially campaigning politicians are mostly lies. It is the powers behind the throne that makes the decisions. That’s why I don’t pay much attention to the theatrics and bullshit.
Truth Has A Liberal Bias on Thu, 26th May 2016 9:15 pm
Trump and Hilary are the best ‘Merika’s got. Garbage in. Garbage out.
https://youtu.be/07w9K2XR3f0
Apneaman on Thu, 26th May 2016 9:59 pm
Yeah, like I’m gonna intentionally watch a Trump video ff’s. Trump is a friend to the cancer industry, although as much as possible is getting burned no matter what. I like him because he will help speed the cancer along. I just can’t stand looking at him is all – mouth like a sphincter. Except actual sphincters are cleaner.
Like truth said, over three hundred million people and Trumpet is the best merica can produce – lmao. He’s exactly what one would expect during the flailing and gasping stage at the end of empire.
JuanP on Fri, 27th May 2016 12:18 am
I haven’t watched a political video in many, many years. I got better things to do and I never cared for politics. I don’t believe in democracy.
I harvested four large bags of premium organic worm castings today, planted a 4′ X 8′ raised bed, turned one of the compost piles, raked and hoed for two hours, and built a new butterfly cage.
Northwest Resident on Fri, 27th May 2016 1:23 am
I’ll pass on the video. But let me guess. He’s telling the oil industry how he’ll help get them back on their feet, leading us all to an energy independent America, that together we’ll make America great again. Whatever he thinks he needs to say to get their votes, we can be sure of that.
Hey, don’t make the mistake of thinking that Donald Trump is the best candidate that America could have produced. Whoever the next president is will preside over absolute chaos in the world, and won’t be in charge of anything — not a damn thing — just a figurehead for PR purposes while the real bosses call the shots. What intelligent, dedicated and high quality individual would want a job like that? All the smart would-be candidates are staying put doing whatever it is they’re doing for now but making their SHTF plans, just like the rest of us — that’s my guess. Which leaves only clowns, tools and/or crusaders to run for president, and that’s about what we’ve got.
Davy on Fri, 27th May 2016 5:22 am
I agree with the garbage in and garbage out of much of what is coming out of the US. There is nothing pretty about the end days of a decaying and dying empire and IMA globalism. Tell me where this decay is not happening globally and I will laugh at you. I love to laugh at the anti-Americans and their failed message especially Makati Bill whose winner and loser message died a horrible death. Asia is going down the tubes. Russia and China axis is a joke. So, as I speak about how ugly the US is I point to the fact the US is still here and doing as well or better than any of the Brics that were supposed to crush the US and the western system. The Brics are a geopolitical failure. For a few months they were looked to as the new world powers and now every one of them is in the same decline the west is in or worse. IMA like I tried to tell the anti-Americans.
Trump for me is someone that will disturb the status quo. Trump hopefully for me will turn the US isolationist enough that we start withdrawing from the world and begin our own private collapse process. There is no making America great again. This will be ugly and destructive but that is the best medicine now. We will have plenty to do at home. It appear Trump is ready to play some trade wars and make friends with traditional foes. It is my hope he manages a new relationship with Russia.
We need to turn away from the one-sided alliances in Asia and Europe. We have nothing to gain from them. These alliances were nothing more than cash cows for multiple generations of elites. They served a purpose for an earlier battles with other empires but are parasitic today for a decaying empire.
Trump is aware we are heading for hard economic times. He has said as much so he will be ready for hard times. He is a business man who has seen his own personal failures. He understands bankruptcy and the financial games. He will trash global trade agreements as nothing more than a gutting of the US but in the process gut the global system that will bring us all down. This is the best medicine now and that is forced localization and indirectly trumps policies may lead to that.
I am not talking up the guy I am just talking up his appearance in the game at this point may be advantageous for isolationism and anti-globalism. Any Trump style disruption to globalism and the status quo will accelerate the decay. The speed of this global decay is unknown but we can see who will speed it up and Trumps destructive change will likely speed it up. My point is a Trump administration will be a poison pill for the status quo.
Trump will make life harder on the entrenched establishment that sucker punched him in his rise to power yet, as is always the case in Washington, he will be absorbed into the quicksand of the status quo establishment. He will likely introduce new blood and bleed some from the entrenched establishment though. It is clear he has the support of a lot of people. He is also going to have the anger and enmity of many as is clear by the protest. This should be exciting and interesting times here in the US and not in a happy friendly way. What is important about trump is he is a catalyst of destructive change to the establishment and the global status quo. For that I am hopeful.
Kenz300 on Fri, 27th May 2016 7:16 am
The top 1% want it all….. and the RepubliCON party will give it to them………..
What do RepubliCONS believe…….. depends who is paying….. follow the money……. fossil fuels….. oil, coal natural gas…, nuclear, NRA………the top 1%
Are RepubliCONS the real EVIL DOERS………..they want to end Social Security, Medicare and access to contraception…….
RepubliCONS are the reason the middle class is shrinking……
Dredd on Fri, 27th May 2016 7:43 am
Generals Daryl & Daryl in the War on Bugs
support Donald Dump (The Peak of Antibiotic Validity – 2).
Bug drugs are made from oil (The Peak of Health And The Peak of Oil).
We must destroy us in order to save us.
Dustin Hoffman on Fri, 27th May 2016 7:59 am
The Trumpeter is a loaded pistol with a hair trigger….just what they want…PTB need someone to scare the shoot out of those upstarts out in the world.
He knows how to close the deal.
Make America Great Again…after Hope and Change…
Plantagenet on Fri, 27th May 2016 8:45 am
Feel the Bern!
Davy on Fri, 27th May 2016 8:52 am
Another sign Hillary is wrong footed:
http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2016/05/26/trumps-decision-to-debate-sanders-in-california-is-his-most-genius-move-yet/
penury on Fri, 27th May 2016 9:44 am
You can disparage Trump, you can believe that Hillary is prison bait, but then you will also accept that one of them will be your next POTUS. Perhaps, the U.S. could use a slightly different method of choosing a leader? One where someone other than the party bosses choose the winners?
PracticalMaina on Fri, 27th May 2016 9:53 am
Penury, that would be nice, at this point I dont think we could do worst with a lottery. O you have never been convicted of a violent crime, you pay your taxes, and you can spell your name? Congrats you have a 1 in 200 million chance of winning!! Currently we get to choose between 2 sociopaths…delightful
penury on Fri, 27th May 2016 10:16 am
PM I think the first test should be: anyone who wants the job is automatically disqualified.
Plantagenet on Fri, 27th May 2016 10:16 am
Don’t give up Bernie just yet. He is just one FBI indictment of Hillary away from being the presumptive D nominee.
In the short term, If the debate between Trump and Bernie goes ahead, Bernie will win the debate and then win California. The Ds would be fools to pick Hillary over Bernie then.
Go Bernie!
PracticalMaina on Fri, 27th May 2016 10:45 am
Penury…ha yes exactly.. Didn’t Washington not want anything to do with it but the other founding fathers convinced him that it was necessary for the country?
Plant, its weird I am agreeing with you, I cannot see that debate taking place though, it would be interesting to say the least.
Sissyfuss on Fri, 27th May 2016 11:38 am
To end up with these two as our final choice shows what little choice we had from the beginning. And DH, that aphorism that T-Rump has a hair trigger was pure unintentional genius. By the way, I was dusting my Hoffman the other day and now my tablet has seized up. Quite funky!
Apneaman on Fri, 27th May 2016 11:59 am
In a hyper litigious society there/s gonna be plenty of work for the lawyers as the AGW hammering and denial continues. It’s normal behaviour for the humans to lay all blame in others. Can’t be AGW, that’s a hoax, so we’ll lay it on the city – 100%.
Flooded homeowners sue Houston, alleging negligence
https://www.yahoo.com/news/flooded-homeowners-sue-houston-alleging-negligence-233819216.html
No doubt there was negligence on the part of many, but that’s not why it poured 17″ overnight and blew the old records away. That happened because the it’s 1 C warmer and the hydrologic cycle is on steroids now and the humans keep injecting it with more. So stock up on lawyers fuck heads because it’s going to keep happening.
Apneaman on Fri, 27th May 2016 1:02 pm
Well golly, let’s see what desmog has to say about sphincter mouth boy. Just fer fun.
Donald Trump Lays Out Disastrous Energy Plan, Denies Climate Science Again
http://www.desmogblog.com/2016/05/26/donald-trump-lays-out-disastrous-energy-plan
Apneaman on Fri, 27th May 2016 1:25 pm
Here we go again with the AGW jacked flooding in Texass.
Flash Flooding Swamps the Plains, Mississippi Valley; Water Rescues Prompted From Up to 19 Inches of Rain in Texas; More Severe Storms Ahead
“Over 17 inches of rain hammered the official reporting station in Brenham, Texas, about 65 miles west-northwest of downtown Houston, shattering a record 24-hour rain event for Washington County, Texas, according to the National Weather Service.
A cooperative CoCoRaHS observer just east of the city measured 19.14 inches, having to empty his gauge once to avoid overflow, according to the NWS.”
https://weather.com/storms/severe/news/flash-flooding-texas-severe-weather-forecast-plains-may27
Deadly storms spark flooding in Houston region – 48 pictures – video
http://www.chron.com/houston/article/Storms-leave-flooded-roads-canceled-school-in-7949010.php
19 inches – The new abnormal
Apneaman on Fri, 27th May 2016 2:33 pm
Here is a perfect example of how a big media outlet is guilty of denial and spreading misinformation by omission.
Piece by the weather network on the Alberta fires.
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/alberta-fires-to-push-canadas-gdp-into-red/68216
Here are the reasons Digital Reporter
Cheryl Santa Maria (Bubblehead with a communications degree)gives for the fire:
-Forests need to burn to be healthy(true)
– Centuries of wild fire suppression (major exaggeration)
– Kindling continues to build up near communities (??? more than enough natural kindling – up to 3′ on the forest floor)
– Dry windy and hot air fueled fire development (same as with every fire)
Where is the link to AGW? Why is she trying to be so causal about it? No big whoop – nothing unusual – go back to cancer.
Let’s listen to what the man who studies this regions fires says about this fire – Mike Flannigan, University of Alberta wildland fire professor:
Fort McMurray blaze among most ‘extreme’ of wildfires: researcher
Record heat, tinder-dry conditions contributed to Alberta’s most devastating inferno, says UAlberta wildland fire professor. Expect more extremes in the future.
““I never like to attribute a single event to climate change,” Flannigan explains into his speaker phone to a U.S.-based reporter.
What he does attribute to climate change is the amount of area burned each year, which has more than doubled since the early 1970s. “This is a result of human-caused climate change. There’s a lot of year-to-year variability with area burned, but we have doubled.”
The warmer it gets, the more fire we get due to increased evaporation and evapotranspiration, he explains, with the atmosphere drawing off moisture from trees and shrubs. According to research Flannigan published earlier this year in Climatic Change, for every degree in warming, 15 per cent more precipitation is needed to offset the risk of wildfire from drying fuel. Research published in Science in 2014 also associated every degree in warming with a 12 per cent increase in lightning activity—“more lightning, more fire.”
“Fires are a natural part of the boreal forest, so we see fires all the time. With climate change, we’re just seeing more of them and the fire seasons are starting earlier,” Flannigan explains. “And at times they can be more severe, and more intense.”
“That’s already translated into longer fire seasons than historical norms. Fire season in Alberta now starts March 1, a month earlier than in the past, and his modelling predicts the fire season will lengthen by three weeks over the next 85 years.”
“What does the future look like? If things continue as they have and these models are close to what may happen … I would expect another doubling of area burned.”
https://uofa.ualberta.ca/news-and-events/newsarticles/2016/may/fort-mcmurray-blaze-among-most-extreme-of-wildfires
Seems to be quite a difference between the Bimbo and the Professor.
Apneaman on Fri, 27th May 2016 2:37 pm
Brenham Texas Record May 26 rain fall.
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/images/fxc/hgx/graphicast/image_full3.png
Apneaman on Fri, 27th May 2016 3:11 pm
Australia scrubbed from UN climate change report after government intervention
Exclusive: All mentions of Australia were removed from the final version of a Unesco report on climate change and world heritage sites after the Australian government objected on the grounds it could impact on tourism
Revealed: Guardian Australia has obtained the Unesco report Australia didn’t want the world to see. Read it now
“Every reference to Australia was scrubbed from the final version of a major UN report on climate change after the Australian government intervened, objecting that the information could harm tourism.”
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/27/australia-scrubbed-from-un-climate-change-report-after-government-intervention
I wonder if when the jet setting scuba divers get to Australia and dive the reef if they will be asking for a refund cause there is nothing to see because it’s all dead – murdered by the cancer monkeys who couldn’t stop flying all over the planet looking for their next dopamine squirt.
Apneaman on Fri, 27th May 2016 3:26 pm
Collapse Beckons–Both Environmental and Economic
“The heart of the economic disorder is a world financial system that has gone rogue.”
“We are living in a ponzi scheme of credit–fiscal and environmental.”
https://kevinhester.live/2016/05/26/collapse-beckons-both-environmental-and-ecological/
Apneaman on Fri, 27th May 2016 3:56 pm
Indian officials, scientists link deadly heat wave to climate change
“The mention of climate change is conspicuously scarce in Western media coverage of India’s heat wave”
https://asiancorrespondent.com/2016/05/indian-officials-scientists-link-deadly-heat-wave-climate-change/
ghung on Fri, 27th May 2016 4:34 pm
Donald Trump’s energy plan: Regulate less, drill more:
“Donald Trump has a simple formula to get America’s energy industry back on its feet: regulate less and start drilling a lot more for oil and gas.
In his first in-depth speech about energy policy, Trump on Thursday promised to make American energy “dominance” a strategic economic and foreign policy goal of the U.S.
“America’s incredible energy potential remains untapped. It’s a wound that is totally self-inflected,” Trump said during a speech at a North Dakota oil industry conference.
Trump, who earlier in the day had secured enough delegates to clinch the GOP nomination, warned that Democratic rival Hillary Clinton will make life tougher for the energy industry.
“This is your treasure and you the American people are entitled to share in the riches,” Trump said. The event was live-streamed by ValleyNewsLife.com, the NBC and CBS affiliate for Fargo, N.D. …
…. Here’s what you need to know about Trump’s energy plan:
America first: Trump promised that the U.S. will achieve “complete” independence from foreign sources of oil.
“Imagine a world in which our foes and the oil cartels can no longer use energy as a weapon. Wouldn’t that be nice?” Trump said, adding that the U.S. is “loaded” in oil and gas resources….”
peakyeast on Fri, 27th May 2016 4:45 pm
I link current civilisation level to climate change too. Namely the start of the brief (10-15KY) and violent interglacial period that occurs about every 100KY.
Apneaman on Fri, 27th May 2016 4:54 pm
Close call for BC cancer. No worries, she’ll get em soon.
Emergency measures stave off wildfire damage to B.C. oil and gas patch
“Two major fires have burned huge swaths of forest through the heart of the oil and gas patch in northeast British Columbia and northwest Alberta without causing any damage to infrastructure.
Pipelines, compressor stations, tank farms and active wells – all processing highly flammable hydrocarbons – have at times been surrounded by the huge fires, which have destroyed over 100,000 hectares of forest north of Fort St. John.
Government and industry officials say the lack of damage caused by the Siphon Creek and Beatton Airport Road fires – which erupted a month ago in the middle of the largest gas field in North America – is a testament to how emergency planning and preparations to withstand disastrous wildfires can pay off.”
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/emergency-measures-stave-off-wildfire-damage-to-bc-oil-and-gas-patch/article30182429/
Apneaman on Fri, 27th May 2016 4:57 pm
Exxon’s Donations and Ties to American Geophysical Union Are Larger and Deeper Than Previously Recognized
Donations tied to Exxon have totaled more than $600,000 since 2001, and a former Exxon vice president sits on the AGU’s board of directors.
“The board of the American Geophysical Union (AGU) sparked a protest among member scientists when it announced last month that it would keep accepting money from ExxonMobil amid new revelations the oil giant misled the public on climate science. At issue was the company’s sponsorship of a $35,000 student breakfast at its annual conference.
What AGU president Margaret Leinen did not discuss when announcing the decision was Exxon’s other, longtime financial support and close ties to the world’s largest organization of earth scientists.
ExxonMobil Exploration is recognized by AGU as a top donor, and some of that money was raised by two longstanding AGU members who are Exxon employees: Carlos Dengo, a former company vice president and a member of AGU’s board of directors, and Exxon scientist Pinar Yilmaz.
In all, donations tied to Exxon have totaled a little over $620,000 from 2001-15 and less than half was secured by Dengo and Yilmaz. Both are listed in AGU’s annual reports among the top 10 living AGU donors for their bundling efforts, the practice of gathering contributions. Both have also personally donated to AGU in much smaller amounts, according to Dana Rehm, AGU’s director of communications. Dengo contributed as recently as 2015.”
http://insideclimatenews.org/news/26052016/agu-american-geophysical-union-exxon-climate-change-denial-science-sponsorship
peakyeast on Fri, 27th May 2016 5:05 pm
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/abrupt/data2.html
quote:
Why do glacial periods end abruptly?
Notice the asymmetric shape of the Dome Fuji temperature record, with abrupt warmings shown in yellow preceding more gradual coolings (Figure 3). Warming at the end of glacial periods tends to happen more abruptly than the increase in solar insolation. There are several positive feedbacks that are responsible for this. One is the ice-albedo feedback. A second feedback involves atmospheric CO2. Direct measurement of past CO2 trapped in ice core bubbles show that the amount of atmospheric CO2 decreased during glacial periods (Figure 3), in part because more CO2 was stored in the deep ocean due to changes in either ocean mixing or biological activity. Lower CO2 levels weakened the atmosphere’s greenhouse effect and helped to maintain low temperatures. Warming at the end of the glacial periods liberated CO2 from the ocean, which strengthened the atmosphere’s greenhouse effect and contributed to further warming.
Apneaman on Fri, 27th May 2016 5:15 pm
My man
On Climate, Trump Promises To Let The World Burn
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2016/05/26/3782434/trump-let-the-world-burn/
And while we’re waiting for AGW consequences to destroy civilization, Big Daddy Trump can start EPA roll backs that will help cull the dead weight – you know the unborn and those with respiratory illness. Fuck em and their stupid puffers – drain on the system. Luvs me some Trump.
Air pollution linked to 16,000 premature births, costs US over $4.3 billion – study
https://www.rt.com/usa/337697-16000-premature-births-air-pollution/
Breathless
“Asthma is a chronic disease that affects nearly 6.5 million American children. Although asthma rates have increased worldwide, in America it has exploded. Asthma rates in the U.S. increased 75 percent from 1980 to 1994; and another 15 percent between 2001 and 2010. The largest increase reported was among children up to four years of age—160 percent.”
“Those who live within a radius of 30 miles of a coal-fired power plant experience the most harmful effects from the facilities’ toxic emissions that include ozone, nitrogen, oxides, acidic aerosol and fine particulate matter in the air. These emissions are known to cause children to develop asthma or trigger asthma attacks. Amazingly, 68 percent of African Americans live within 30 miles of a coal-fired power plant.
Beyond the impact of coal-fired power plants and the nearly unavoidable exposure to high pollen counts, the EPA is convinced increased levels of ozone, the result of climate change, is the primary contributor to the explosion in asthma rates.”
“Asthma cost the US about $56 billion in medical costs, lost school and work days, and early deaths in 2007.”
http://www.blackvoicenews.com/2016/05/24/breathless/
For conservatives it’s a major sin to kill a baby in the womb, but poisoning them with fossil fuel fumes is A-OK. Good fer da economy N stuff.
Apneaman on Fri, 27th May 2016 5:39 pm
Starting to get fun
Multi-Day ‘Siege of Storms’ Follows Exxon Shareholder Meeting
“Outside the meeting, a 13 foot long ice statue spelling out the words — #ExxonKnew — rapidly melted in the sweltering heat of an atmosphere roiled by the powerful climate-altering forces fossil fuel entities like Exxon had already unleashed upon the airs of our world.
‘Siege of Storms’ Batters Texas
By Thursday, the day after Exxon’s shareholder meeting, an expansive trough had extended down from Canada and over Texas. Exploiting this hole in an increasingly weakened Jet Stream cool, Arctic airs plunged south. Crossing the Great Plains into Texas, this unstable atmospheric mass came directly into confrontation with a super-heated, moist flow rising off the Gulf of Mexico and Pacific Ocean.”
“Both the big Jet Stream dip and the extreme moisture content in the airs over Texas were not normal. Both were new features enabled by a human-forced (Exxon-forced) warming of the world. For with global temperatures early this year spiking to 1.4 C above 1880s values, the planetary atmosphere is now enabled to contain about a ten percent higher moisture load than during the late 19th Century. It’s a weird new atmosphere that is now capable of producing storms with previously unimaginable heights of 70,000 feet over temperate Latitudes. And as the current El Nino fades and a temporary 0.2 to 0.4 C dip in global temperatures takes place in the cyclical transition to La Nina, some of that added, unprecedented excess of atmospheric moisture is bound to fall out in the form of never-before-seen rainfall events.”
https://robertscribbler.com/2016/05/27/multi-day-siege-of-storms-follows-exxon-shareholder-meeting/
Apneaman on Fri, 27th May 2016 5:58 pm
Trump acknowledges climate change — at his golf course
The billionaire, who called global warming a hoax, warns of its dire effects in his company’s application to build a sea wall.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-climate-change-golf-course-223436
GregT on Fri, 27th May 2016 6:02 pm
Scientists puzzled by slowing of Atlantic conveyor belt, warn of abrupt climate change
27th May 2016
“Scientists are increasingly warning of the potential that a shutdown, or even significant slowdown, of the Atlantic conveyor belt could lead to abrupt climate change, a shift in Earth’s climate that can occur within as short a timeframe as a decade but persist for decades or centuries.”
https://news.mongabay.com/2016/05/scientists-concerned-slowing-atlantic-conveyor-warn-abrupt-climate-change/
onlooker on Fri, 27th May 2016 6:30 pm
Yes and this halting/slowing of the Atlantic Conveyor threatens a mini-ice age in the Northern Hemisphere. So if we do not bake we freeze. Good grief what is a mortal being to do.
makati1 on Fri, 27th May 2016 7:08 pm
onlooker, perhaps the slowing of the conveyor belt and the resulting drop in temps for Europe will be offset by the warming Arctic? Just guessing. Or maybe it will just bring bigger swings in weather that makes surviving there impossible? Mother Nature is bringing out her big guns and we are toast.
onlooker on Fri, 27th May 2016 7:11 pm
My understanding Mak, is this would mean really freezing temps in the northern areas of the Northern Hemisphere not amendable to modern humans. Eventually the warming would overwhelm this but none of it would be very to anybodies liking I presume. Your right we are all now truly at the mercy of Mother Nature.
Apneaman on Fri, 27th May 2016 7:27 pm
mak, Scribbler was answering a comment about ice ages earlier:
” robertscribbler / May 27, 2016
So Streiber’s book was an interesting work of science fiction that hit on a few basic truths about climate change. One is that increasing temperatures increase the height of the troposphere and coordinate storm heights.
Where Strieber was dead wrong is that there’s no way we get another ice age. We’ve already pushed the ice ages back by hundreds of thousands of years. In human terms its likely that we’ll never see an ice age again.”
https://robertscribbler.com/2016/05/26/atlantic-tropical-storm-bonnie-may-be-second-2016-cyclone-to-form-before-hurricane-season-start/#comment-80822
Too much CO2. Anyone can ask him for the nitty grity details – the man knows his stuff better than me and will answer any questions you have. Uhh, that’s anyone but me. Scribby gave me the boot (go figure?) a few months back. I disagreed with him on “alternative energy” so he accused me of being a fossil fuel shill. Apparently he’s never read any of my comments regarding the FF industry on this site – fucking tard. Still a great source for meteorological and climate info in spite of his politics.
onlooker on Fri, 27th May 2016 7:30 pm
Good to know AP what I will not freeze my balls off hehe.
Davy on Fri, 27th May 2016 8:12 pm
Apehole, one of these days you will figure out that poor manners and rude behavior close doors on you. You think you are a rock star but you are nothing special. Just show people respect and be more modest and people won’t slam he door in your face.
Apneaman on Fri, 27th May 2016 9:06 pm
onlooker, I think it’s possible that they will get some very cold winters in Europe as it slows down.
Apneaman on Fri, 27th May 2016 9:29 pm
Missouri cock biter, don’t need any advice from a deranged and dysfunctional merican person like you. Guess what? You do not get to decide what is poor manners and rude behavior. You do not set the standards for me or anyone else. Wadda you think you’re the Miss Manners of peakoil.com? Let me guess – self appointed once again eh? Should start your own blog. What an out of control control freak you are. If you want to play Miss Manners with your own kids that’s your prerogative, but otherwise fuck off.
BTW, you have mentioned me being a rockstar about 50 times. Not me and not anybody else – just you, over and over and over. Freudian slip much? Nothing I can do for ya there. You’ll just have to learn to deal with your jealously on your own.
Davy on Fri, 27th May 2016 9:54 pm
Apehole, this is not about me it is about you. You are good but you could be better if you slowed down a gear. There is no reason to badger people unless provoked. Your message will be stronger by being less forceful. You have an important message but you need a different delivery or you are nothing more than just another angry voice.
Sissyfuss on Fri, 27th May 2016 10:44 pm
Davy,Apey. Come on guys. In the immortal words of Mr King,(Rodney, not Martin), can’t we all just get along? And would you please stop beating me fellas, it’s really starting to hurt.
Apneaman on Sat, 28th May 2016 12:03 am
Mama breaking it down.
Another Central Texas bridge buckled by floodwaters
http://keyetv.com/news/local/another-central-texas-bridge-buckled-by-floodwaters
Flooding opens giant sinkhole in road north of Houston
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-weather/article/Flooding-opens-giant-sinkhole-in-road-north-of-7949114.php
peakyeast on Sat, 28th May 2016 3:00 am
@Dave & Apneaman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DmYLrxR0Y8
GregT on Sat, 28th May 2016 3:24 am
If it weren’t for the propaganda and indoctrination peaky, peace and friendship would be much easier to achieve.
JuanP on Sat, 28th May 2016 8:45 am
I have been reading on the Gulf Stream slowing down for at least ten years. This not something new. Scientists have been aware of this for over a decade.
In Miami Beach we have already experienced increased sea levels due to this issue at least twice. IIRC, The first time was in 2006 and the second time in 2011-2012.
The oceans’ currents take about two millennia to circulate all the water in the world’s oceans around. The Gulf Stream-Atlantic Conveyor current is where it all starts. It is like the pump that gets the global currents going. It has slowed and stopped in the past, and I have read reports that it could actually reverse in an instant without any notice. My understanding is that when this happens, as it likely will, it will change the global seawater circulation systems in completely unpredictable ways.
This is mostly a Northern Hemisphere issue so far, affecting mostly Atlantic Europe and North America, but if the Gulf Stream slows significantly for a long time, stops, or reverses completely the consequences would be undoubtedly global. A change of that magnitude would completely alter weather patterns everywhere on the planet.
Apneaman on Sat, 28th May 2016 9:56 am
OK, Sissyfuss
anything for you bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjtEYt6l2Cs
Kenz300 on Sat, 28th May 2016 9:58 am
Big Oil Could Have Cut CO2 Emissions In 1970s — But Did Nothing
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/big-oil-emissions_us_573c9d81e4b0aee7b8e8a046
Oil Giants Spend $115 Million A Year To Oppose Climate Policy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/oil-companies-climate-policy_us_570bb841e4b0142232496d97
The Kochs Are Plotting A Multimillion-Dollar Assault On Electric Vehicles
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/koch-electric-vehicles_us_56c4d63ce4b0b40245c8cbf6