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CFR President Says “The World Will be the Battlefield” After Iran Escalatio

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The President of the Council on Foreign Relations Richard N. Haass says that “the world will be the battlefield” following a dramatic escalation in tensions between the United States and Iran.

Fears of a wider war are rising after Iran’s Quds Force General Qasem Soleimani was killed during an airstrike near Baghdad’s airport.

Haass warned that those who thought any war with Iran would look similar to previous military campaigns were being incredibly naive.

“Make no mistake: any war with Iran will not look like the 1990 Gulf war or the 2003 Iraq wars. It will be fought throughout the region w a wide range of tools vs a wide range of civilian, economic, & military targets. The region (and possibly the world) will be the battlefield,” tweeted Haass.

He went on to assert that developments would lead to Iraqi authorities exerting great pressure on the U.S. to leave their country.

“One sure result of the US strike is that the era of US-Iraq cooperation is over. The US diplomatic & mil presence will end b/c Iraq asks us to depart or our presence is just a target or both. The result will be greater Iranian influence, terrorism, and Iraqi infighting,” said Haas.

Meanwhile, a source described as being in “close contact” with senior security officials in the Trump Administration said that Iran could respond to the killing of Soleimani by launching a massive cyberattack.

A cyberattack inside the U.S. is “the most likely way that Iran could retaliate stateside,” according to Axios.

 

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119 Comments on "CFR President Says “The World Will be the Battlefield” After Iran Escalatio"

  1. makati1 on Fri, 3rd Jan 2020 7:20 pm 

    Amerika is no longer saved/protected by two oceans. There are already terrorists in the country waiting (100s of thousands of Muslim refugees came into the US in the last 20 years) to do harm, and as the article mentions, psyber warfare is the most likely on Amerika’s antique infrastructure.

    How will Amerika survive the electrical grid going down for long periods, maybe weeks or months? Not very well. ATMs out of action. NO gas at the pumps. No heat in the winter. NO internet. No phones. No JIT deliveries to keep the stores stocked, even if they had money to buy and a way to get there. And on and on.
    Amerika is not designed to be self-sufficient nor are it’s citizens. The shock alone will kill millions the first weeks.

    https://www.cato.org/blog/trump-cut-muslim-refugees-91-immigrants-30-visitors-18

  2. asg70 on Fri, 3rd Jan 2020 7:31 pm 

    Linking to infowars = instant fail

  3. peakyeast on Fri, 3rd Jan 2020 7:40 pm 

    asg70 not necessarily. Infowars actually do have more than Alex Jones and tactical wetwipes. Once in a blue moon they have facts and news that are real and not mentioned anywhere else.

  4. dave thompson on Fri, 3rd Jan 2020 11:30 pm 

    The U$ is hell bent on perpetual war in the middle east. Or perhaps I am not understanding the idea of freedom and democracy spreading around the world?

  5. claes on Fri, 3rd Jan 2020 11:46 pm 

    dead muzzie berated Trump for using low English.

  6. Cloggie on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 12:27 am 

    “The President of the Council on Foreign Relations Richard N. Haass says that “the world will be the battlefield” following a dramatic escalation in tensions between the United States and Iran.”

    That’s announcing WW3.

    Richard Haass is jew #1 in the hierarchy of active day-to-day politics of ZOG.

    As I have said before, Trump could actively seek major conflict in order to use his presidency to ruin empire, before the deep state returns in the saddle. For a closet white nationalist this would be a rational thing to do.

    https://youtu.be/HH0AvaG3SqQ

  7. Chrome Mags on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 12:46 am 

    Trump is a master manipulator for the purposes of advancing his ego in support of his narcissism. So look at this from his perspective. He’s being impeached (but of course the Senate will give him a free ride out of it), but there’s also an election coming up and his evangelical base is partially wavering. His conclusion: Do something big and make it stick. Knocking off the Iranian he did who was worshipped by their military was a perfect target for him.

    It could turn out to be a terrible target for the rest of us if things get out of hand and it escalates into a major war, but for Trump is was perfect and he’s likely beaming over it.

    People have to realize he feels absolutely nothing for anyone except his narcissistic state, so any kind of decision like this just has to fit his needs at the time. The knock on effects if there are any, even if all hell breaks loose he’ll blame on Iran.

  8. Paul Crestopper on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 2:48 am 

    The president has been impeached, he just hasn’t been removed from office. Infowars is a joke and so is this paranoid article. Also stop knocking down refugees you racist prick and screw off antisemite! You pussies hide behind you screen and think you’re hate is profound. It’s pathetic. Trump is parasite. Anyone who disagrees with him or his base might as well be banned from the country. How American is that?

  9. makati1 on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 2:59 am 

    Paul, Trump has NOT been impeached. The House has tried, but they have not even turned it over to the Senate where impeachment can actually happen. Not going to. Trump has five more years and may have a Republican House and Senate to rubber stamp his decrees when the election dust settles.

    Maybe there will not be an election in 2024? Do you know the real history of Germany between the world wars? Is Civil War Two and Marshal Law in Amerika’s future? Heil Trump!? We shall see.

    The Democratic head on the Deep State hydra has gone insane. It is going to be a very exciting and interesting year not to mention, decade. Pass the popcorn.

  10. Theedrich on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 4:00 am 

    Hey Paul, White-hater!  Cyberwar is good for all.  It will undercut the U.S. for good, as well as stop the tsunami of outhouselanders pouring into Whiteland.  Yid control of the mass media will be severely restrained as martial law takes effect.  Such a situation might even snap some of the drug addicts out of their haze — if not result in their death or execution.  What could go wrong?

  11. Cloggie on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 4:19 am 

    For those Americans, all 99% of them, who do not know who Richard Haass is, you can watch him here at [0:24], in this iconic video, when Carl Bernstein attempts the flight forward when he talks about “these jewish neocons who orchestrated the Iraq war and because I can say that because I am a jew”…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRlatDWqh0o

    Watch Haass looking as if he is sitting in his own XXL wet fart nickers.LOL

    For the uninitiated, until Trump, Haass was the real unelected president of the US, running day-to-day politics. Only the jewish billionaires behind the scenes are more powerful, all working overtime to brainwash whitey out of existence through third world mass immigration.

    This bunch is now going to be ticked of the geopolitical map by Eurasia and CW2. Dolfie was SO right about them!

  12. Cloggie on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 4:52 am 

    Both Iran and US deny reports that there was another air strike against Iranians:

    https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/usa-vs-iran-beide-seiten-dementieren-neuen-angriff-in-irak-a-1303613.html

  13. Davy on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 4:56 am 

    cloggo, likes his naked links in other languages. Makes it easy to hide something or embellish the truth. Its lazy too.

  14. Davy on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 5:03 am 

    “For the uninitiated, until Trump, Haass was the real unelected president of the US, running day-to-day politics. Only the jewish billionaires behind the scenes are more powerful, all working overtime to brainwash whitey out of existence through third world mass immigration.”

    Bullshit, nobody runs day-to-day politics. Groups struggle for power and most of all corporate lobbyist trade ill-gotten gains in competitive cooperation. Most of all the military is kept happy. Cloggo is so simpleton with his lame conspiracy theories of ZOG everywhere. ZOG is a force and the Jews well integrated into many walks of life but they do not run things especially at the grass roots level of localities throughout the country.

  15. Cloggie on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 5:07 am 

    “Das Boot”, the sequel. German-British rehash of the old success formula (ZDF-Sky):

    https://www.spiegel.de/kultur/tv/das-boot-im-schnellcheck-serie-feiert-free-tv-premiere-im-zdf-a-1303363.html

    Das Boot is unique in that Germans are portrayed as normal people, rather than Hollywood zombies.

    The story-line has changed a little. Now “evil American capitalists” are involved in the plot, who intentionally do everything to increase the war. ZOG-propaganda outlet Der Spiegel rejects this “freedom of interpretation”. Both the story is much closer to the truth than many realize:

    https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html

    “President Roosevelt’s Campaign To Incite War in Europe: The Secret Polish Documents”

    Although officially neutral until Pearl Harbor, the Roosevelt government was actively but quietly supporting the British war effort and hunted for German submarines and anxious to find the pretext to enter the war, in order to colonize Europe together with ZOG-USSR and get the American Century started, the same century that is now coming to an end, but I digress. The US empire is in no way an “accidental empire”, as kosher propaganda would love to portray, but actively pursued as soon as Roosevelt was in the White House and ZOG-USA was a fact:

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/25/chamberlain-and-the-forrestal-diaries/

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/25/time-life-the-american-century/

  16. Davy on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 5:40 am 

    “New York Times Reveals America’s Weapons-Makers Drive Trump-Impeachment”
    https://tinyurl.com/vnomy45 strategic culture

    “Authored by Eric Zuesse via The Strategic Culture Foundation, A remarkably non-propagandistic news-report, in the New York Times, by Eric Lipton, Maggie Haberman and Mark Mazzetti, included powerful evidence that the impeachment-effort against US President Donald Trump is motivated, in part if not totally, by a desire by US Senators and Representatives – as well as by career employees of the US Departments of Defense, State Department, and other agencies regarding national defense – to increase the sales-volumes of US-made weapons to foreign countries. Whereas almost all of the contents of that article merely repeat what has already been reported, this article in the Times states repeatedly that boosting corporations such as Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, Boeing, and Northrop-Grumman, has been a major — if not the very top — motivation driving US international relations, and that at least regarding Ukraine, Trump has not been supporting, but has instead been trying to block, those weapons-sales — and creating massive enemies in the US Government as a direct consequence.”

  17. Davy on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 5:41 am 

    Pretty obvious the Ukraine is the deep state’s Gettysburg. The Obama’s cabal drank the worst of it and eventually took the madness as far as spying on a candidate and then the attempt to remove a President through criminal means. Clinton probably was running things with Obama struggling to maintain his place as President allowing fateful decisions, he surely knew was going to haunt him. The Ukraine is where these criminals went too far both internally and externally. Besides being a tragedy for Donbass Ukrainians it also allowed the kind of corruption to metastasize that a mafia state like Ukraine is so well known for. Many neocon Republicans are in on this too. It has all come to light now and made possible hilariously by the incompetence of the left’s hubris for power.

    It is likely this slimy behavior could have remained hidden if they just would have left Trump alone but they had to try to remove him and in doing so ensured all these terrible things would surface. What is so tragic for the Dims is Trump would likely have ensured his own defeat if left alone but instead they made him stronger. Obama will go down in American history along with Clinton as the most daring of corruption at the highest levels. Obama reputation will be completely destroyed except for the many blind lying liberals who adore him. It is obvious Obama is deeply involved in the Democratic tragedy that is the 2020 Dim race. I have never seen such incompetence as what is running today except for Tulsi. Tulsi is the real diamond in the rough and the Dims hate her. That tells you where the Dims are heading.

  18. REAL Green on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 5:58 am 

    “Australia Fire Maps: Where the Devastating Wildfires Are Burning”
    https://tinyurl.com/wod42pa Bloomberg

  19. REAL Green on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 6:06 am 

    “EDP reports first WindFloat Atlantic wind turbine connected to grid”
    https://tinyurl.com/vpwkwyy renewable energy world

    “The WindFloat Atlantic platforms are anchored with chains to the seabed at a depth of 100 m. They are designed to be transported by standard towing craft, as opposed to bottom-fixed projects that require expensive vessels to be mobilized for transport, and their on-shore assembly helps scale back logistics, financial and environmental costs associated with marine construction EDP says. These technological advantages make it viable for the project to be replicated anywhere in the world, at a much larger scale.”

  20. REAL Green on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 7:45 am 

    “Kurdist Rojava: A Social Model for our Future”
    https://tinyurl.com/vo7rqyq resiliance

    “The immense relevance of Rojava should now be apparent. It is one of the most impressive examples of people building a society based on the kinds of principles and practices that must be adopted if we are to make a transition to a sustainable and just society. Summarising the main elements in this remarkable venture show how closely it aligns with the Simper Way perspective: The basic social unit is the small local community which decides most of the economic, legal and social issues affecting it. The orientation is cooperative and collectivist, focused on finding the best way for the community. Both the capitalist and the state-controlled way are rejected, in favour of grass roots democratic control. Hierarchy, domination and top-down power are rejected. The community governs itself via thoroughly participatory processes. The economy is geared mostly to local self-sufficiency and is not driven by profit or market forces or the individual quest for wealth; it is driven by the intention of meeting needs. Much production is carried out via cooperatives and much productive property is publicly owned and commons. Inclusiveness is a high priority; the underdog is provided for, jobs are found for the poor and unemployed. Emphasis is given to ecological sustainability, especially to developing sustainable local agriculture. The vicious trap that is the conventional “development” ideology is avoided. That doctrine asserts that growth of GDP = development, you must compete in the global market place, you need for capital and loans to build the infrastructures investors want (so they can ship out your resources). If you accept these myths you will soon end up in impossible debt, and have to wait many decades before any benefit trickles down to your poor masses. But development in Rojava focuses on using local resources to produce basic necessities for local people with almost no dependence on capital, investors or the global economy. (See TSW: Third World Development.) Its change strategy centres on “prefiguring”, that is building new ways within the old system. Thus the centrality of cultural revolution is recognized. If people come to understand and happily opt for the new ways, then they will eagerly build and run them. Little or nothing can be achieved by ruthless vanguard parties using violence to take state power if people in general don’t have the necessary vision. Participatory control of “state-level” functions will come later as the grassroots movement strengthens. It should also be clearly evident that Rojava is confirming the basic Simpler Way claim that the required perspective for saving the planet is not Eco-socialist, it is Eco-Anarchist.”

  21. REAL Green on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 7:47 am 

    REAL Green admires and respects doctrines like the Simpler Way and Rojava Kurds but does not embrace these doctrines as such. REAL Green concern is scaling of localism. In a relative sense localism will never scale to the level many like the Simpler way adverts preach. It is not an answer for levels above a local and small group. This scale is as small as the individual because often there is no REAL Green present in ones local. It can be a lonely affair but one that is honest. The reason this is the case is the carbon trap and path dependencies that anchor the status quo firmly in a brittle climax economic and social system. What REAL Green does instead is yields to scale and forages off it. REAL Green realizes status quo scale wins if you resist it but you can adapt it locally. You will still have to pay your tribute which means you will have to delocalize as required to make a living. A rare few can withdraw in ideal circumstances into REAL Green monasteries and even these lucky ones are still trapped in a common failure.

    It is scaling that allows trap mitigation. REAL Green finds strength in scale. Small scale and low carbon gathering activities form the basis of scale mitigation. The status quo is a global late stage capitalism of overshoot of consumption and population in an Anthropocene of planetary decline. A scale mitigation strategy requires a careful transitioning to a simpler way of life. It is careful because it requires diligent wisdom of what lifestyles and tech to embrace. It is not a rejection of tech nor a counter revolution of the status quo behavior but instead a way that yields to it but in strength. The strength is the meaning that comes with low carbon capture techniques along with localizing behavior efforts. It is the hybridization of old ways that were naturally local and the benefits of the huge amount of knowledge and material the modern status quo has made possible.

    The gatekeeper is REAL Green Wisdom that seeks mostly less. This less is avoiding the pitfalls of tech and knowledge that are a siren song of delocalization. It is the triage of this siren song that is the basis of REAL Green wisdom because we live in a world of too much of everything complicating and disrupting harmony. We are sucked into delocalization through dopamine hits of physical and mental pleasures. REAL Green preaches a relative asceticism, stoicism, and Spartan living. The relative nature of this action is avoiding the radical and the destructive of overt disruptive behavior. Remain under the radar screen in camouflage of humility. Your delocalized status quo trapped local only allows so much deviation materially and with meaning. This is an add on not a new way for your local which includes place but also group. You can only adapt your local away from the trend of delocalization and relativisms. You cannot stop the process of decline and collapse because this is planetary and systematically path dependent. It is the nature of succession that occurs when a species and ecosystem are in a condition of being at the thresholds of overshoot. This overshoot is planetary and systematic and all the more reason it is a unbeatable trap. It is about accepting the failure of this system your local is trapped in. It is about making life boats and hospices to this condition. The lifeboats are alternative living and the hospices is the acceptance of death in a holistic way. This points to one of your most important REAL Green decisions and that is picking your local.

    What is meant by this is the embrace of collapse with green prepping. It is about the journey which is an organized retreat in force. Even though a REAL Green local is yielding to greater powers and in retreat this retreat is in force and organized. It is drawing on the energy of the stats quo to leave it into a local that is more resilient and sustainable to the coming end of the status quo of delocalization. Doctrines that are offered to those who think the status quo can be made different get lost in the futile effort of battling the trap. They think there are ways to transcend the trap and transition out of it but this is little more than those in the denial of death in terminal illness. REAL Green calls these people FAKE Greens because they are living a similar delusion as the Brown DELUSIONALIST. A brown is in science denial or the bargaining of beneficial science to create a narrative of success. A Fake Green is a step up by being honest about the science of planetary and social decline but delusional and bargaining with the science of the solutions. Both groups have not made it through the stages of grief. Both are in the neurotic condition of cognitive dissonance of existential wandering that a world of relativistic meaning requires.

    REAL Green starts with failure and its acceptance and springs forth to activity embracing a journey of green prepping that seeks proper scaling. This proper scaling offers meaning and planetary support. The meaning comes from knowing the truth and the planetary support comes from proper scaling to a planetary process of succession into a less complex and less supportive natural environment that only localism can adapt to. The planet is dying and so is civilization. REAL Green scales to this both mentally and physically and this is what offer a meaning that powers the journey. This journey is into the gauntlet of collapse in acceptance to the end that is the failure of all we have come to know through the habituation of growth materially and with the advancement of knowledge that came with that growth.

  22. Cloggie on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 7:54 am 

    “cloggo, likes his naked links in other languages. Makes it easy to hide something or embellish the truth. Its lazy too.”

    For the intellectual slow lane types… in Google Chrome you can get a decent translation of the German text.

    Lazy are merely those who only command the simpleton globalist doormat language English, that every barbarian meanwhile is able to speak.

  23. Davy on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 8:49 am 

    “For the intellectual slow lane types… in Google Chrome you can get a decent translation of the German text.”
    That’s your job fraudster. If you were really legit with your comments you would post content that supports your attempted fraud instead of naked links with personal interpretations. If this content is in a foreign language then you google translate it…of course with a link and you post it. We know how you alter and embellish text to support your narrow extremist agenda so it has to be clearly traceable.

    “Lazy are merely those who only command the simpleton globalist doormat language English, that every barbarian meanwhile is able to speak.”
    You are a guest here and this is an English language forum. If you want to sport your multilingual abilities hang out on a Eurotard forum and play your games. The reason you are here on an American forum is likely you want to avoid the monitoring from the authorities of your extremist message. IOW, it is likely you will be listed and watched. Another reason is you are Anglo deranged and seek a forum to troll an anti-Anglo message. Under most normal forum conditions, you would have been banned long ago and this is why you want minimum of moderation not the active kind. You want the password and auto limiting digital kind. A real moderator would stop your nastiness immediately.

  24. Robert Inget on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 11:11 am 

    “The killing of Soleimani does change things substantially. Not only was he a revered icon in Iran but a general of a nation and killing him is an overt “act of war”. Killing Osama Bin Ladin or destroying Isis would not be an act of war given that neither of them were established nations of the world. The minute you attack a person that represents a nation, you are effectively declaring war on that nation.”

    Open war, especially in the middle east where oil is a big resource and a target for making national statements, is a game changer. Iran (as a nation) is forced to respond or otherwise they will lose respect in the world………..as a nation.

  25. Robert Inget on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 12:49 pm 

    Iran ambassador to UN on Soleimani killing: ‘the response for a military action is military action’
    Kim Hjelmgaard
    USA TODAY
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/01/04/iran-iraq-united-states-qasem-soleimani-trump/2804237001/

    (IMO) This statement is yet another misdirection.
    A far less dangerous tactic would be to destroy USD. (as world exchange currency)

    I firmly believe Iran, China, Russia have had plans
    to replace the ‘buck’ with a basket of currencies featuring the euro and the yuan. Now may be the time to put such a plan to action.

    Rather than some sort of 9/11 military attack Iran and Russia will try to disrupt the basis of our economy,
    cheap oil.

    Before EVERY economic downturn we see rapid inflation of oil prices. Watch for this.

    Either by intimidation or bribery Iran will cease fire
    with Saudi Arabia, demanding slow walk all US bound exports. China plays a huge roll here.

    Currently we, the US, are exporting enough ‘oil’
    to see our consumption rise, slightly yearly.
    There’s zero sign we are able to stop exports.
    (with Venezuela under Chinese & Russian control,
    Canadian pipelines dancing as fast as they can,
    shortages of heavy crude forces us to keep exporting) There’s the RUB.

    If Asia will take US bound exports for just a year,
    the medium WTI prices will go from today’s $63 to
    over $100.

    One hundred dollar oil in this election year will drop the DOW two thousand points.

    Bottom line, if Trump can unilaterlatery, like the mob boss he is, order State Actors ‘rubbed out’ all these
    guys now know exactly who is prime target.

    When, as is the case today, Americans are forced to borrow, from foreigners, just to service our Existing Loans, removing access to low interest finally cripples our cheap oil based economy.

  26. Davy on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 12:55 pm 

    “I firmly believe Iran, China, Russia have had plans to replace the ‘buck’ with a basket of currencies featuring the euro and the yuan. Now may be the time to put such a plan to action.”
    Please explain how that is going to work Robert? Inquiring minds are curious.

    “One hundred dollar oil in this election year will drop the DOW two thousand points.”
    How did you come up with that number Robert? Inquiring minds are curious.

  27. The Board on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 3:53 pm 

    Note:

    This is an international forum. Not an ‘American’ forum.

    People are free to comment in any languages they so choose.

    Davy is a visitor in the guest only section of peakoil.com.. He is not a registered member.

    Davy does not make the rules.

    Please, do not feed the Davy troll.

  28. The board of directors on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 4:31 pm 

    Board, tell stupid to get on his meds and get off this forum because he can’t handle the pressure. He is a piece of shit whining pussy.

  29. The Board on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 4:35 pm 

    Everyone. Please, do not feed the Davy troll.

  30. The board of directors on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 4:39 pm 

    How is your chronic depression juanPee?

  31. The Board on Sat, 4th Jan 2020 4:42 pm 

    Please JuanP.

    Do not feed the davy troll.

  32. Theedrich on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 2:08 am 

    Davy wrote, “cloggo, likes his naked links in other languages. Makes it easy to hide something or embellish the truth. Its lazy too.”

    Sorry to disappoint you, Davy, but Cloggie is not the only one who speaks German on this blog. I have no problem understanding what any of our blood relatives in Mitteleuropa say or write. I can even understand the sow Frau Sau (aka Frau Sauer, aka Frau Merkel) when she speaks Christianbabble like Pelosi.

  33. Davy on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 5:07 am 

    “Sorry to disappoint you, Davy, but Cloggie is not the only one who speaks German on this blog. I have no problem understanding what any of our blood relatives in Mitteleuropa say or write. I can even understand the sow Frau Sau (aka Frau Sauer, aka Frau Merkel) when she speaks Christianbabble like Pelosi.”

    Thee, I lived in Germany for a year and learned some German. cloggo uses subterfuge to peddle his agenda. You like some of his agenda and that is fine but his methods are often fraudulent in regards to accuracy and honesty. He will post a link and make a bias interpretation instead of showing content that proves a point.

  34. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 5:08 am 

    Here is cloggs favorite source. Just making up pure BS. Low IQ people like clogg will believe anything. And they lake impulse control. This is why DailyFail is banned by Wiki. Just like Bretbart is. No surprise both right wing sources.

    Dailymail photoshopped them in the same picture to create a story

    https://i.redd.it/8ohkoewynu841.jpg

  35. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 5:25 am 

    Italy’s Government Could Collapse Six Different Ways This Month

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-02/italy-s-government-could-collapse-six-different-ways-this-month

    Good thing they wasted all their time seething about migrants. lol

    Europe is a basket case and headed for civil war (again).

  36. Davy on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 5:49 am 

    “With Iran War Looming, Congress Has Been Left Out”
    https://tinyurl.com/rlr8cey zero hedge

    “Congress has never authorized the use of military force against Iran, and in the initial House version of the 2020 NDAA, it was explicitly noted that there is no authorization for that war. But Thursday night rolled around, and the Trump Administration attacked and killed Iran’s top general in a strike on Baghdad International Airport. An unauthorized attack, but it’s more than that, as Congress was neither consulted about nor informed of Thursday’s attack. That’s par for the course for an administration that has scorned the very idea of Congressional authority in war-making time and again. And while it may be an uphill battle to muster a two-thirds majority in the Senate to oppose the Iran War, the fact that they’re trying at all is at least indication that there is some debate that will be had on the new war. America may not have gotten this debate before the US attacked, but there will be a chance to express disapproval for the conflict. The Trump Administration likely appreciates that this war they’re careening toward would be unpopular, which is why officials have styled their killings as “defensive” actions, and why President Trump’s statement claimed he attacked the Baghdad Airport to “stop a war.” This will allow them to pretend this was something other than a plain war of choice.”

  37. REAL Green on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 6:23 am 

    “The Carbon Ranch”
    https://tinyurl.com/rwpb465 resilience
    https://tinyurl.com/wv96zvf carbon ranch picture
    https://tinyurl.com/qnrqj5g marin carbon project

    “why is society so obsessed with high technology as a solution to our problems, including climate change, when the low technology of nature could be more effective? Why not use the power of photosynthesis as a solution instead? In the op-ed, I argued that we could store carbon in soils by: (1) switching to planned grazing systems using livestock, particularly on degraded land; (2) restoring riparian and wetland zones; (3) protecting open space from development; and (4) implementing no-till farming practices. “The time has come to bundle them together into one economic and ecological whole, which I call a carbon ranch,” I wrote. “The goal of a carbon ranch is to reduce atmospheric CO2 while producing substantial co-benefits for all living things. These include local food production, improved ecosystem services, restored wildlife habitat, rural economic development, and the strengthening of cultural traditions.”

  38. REAL Green on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 6:24 am 

    The carbon ranch is in an expression of the permaculture side of REAL Green. What REAL Green does with permaculture is go hybrid with the old ways and new ways to achieve the goal of local sustainability with resilience. The side benefits are increased benefits to local wildlife plus increase in the health of soil and water through REAL Green permaculture practices. Rotational grazing with smaller stocking rates on polyculture pasture by multispecies grazing lowers machinery and chemical use. Small scale hay production with low horse power equipment is lower carbon. REAL Green intends to go electric with solar power charging of an electric tractor when available. Real Green goes further with energy production by using a sustainable wood lot for wood heat but also solar energy to heat and supply power. This energy production is hybrid and still uses the grid. It is the hope of REAL Green the grid goes greener with more renewables. The reason for the hybrid of grid and off grid strategies is the increased resilience of the two. REAL Green is realistic about power and understands the benefits of both. The grid is reliable and on demand which is useful with varied situations a REAL Green finds himself in. REAL Green also is dedicated to efficiency strategies that lower consumption foot prints. These are both technology and behavioral.

    REAL Green is based on localism because that is the proper human scale but REAL Green is realistic and understands a REAL Green Ranch must dwell in a delocalized world that is carbon intensive. This delocalized world is with people too who live on demand and discretionary in regards to consumption. Many people do not factor in resilience, sustainability, and permaculture into their daily decisions but REAL Green does. Activities are reflected on in this regard by REAL Green. A trip to town is carbon intensive so the trip is multi-tasked. Food waste is minimized by feeding animals what is left. Localism means focusing on doing things at home avoiding road trips for enjoyment yet REAL Green realizes significant others are not REAL Green so there is flexibility to accommodate significant others who don’t embrace REAL Green. This includes low carbon travel because REAL Greens point is localism enhances the Ranch and travel diminishes it. That said some educational trips are beneficial and embraced. Conservation strategies are embraced. Lights are turned off when not in use. Showers are done as needed instead of as a routine.

    Consumerism is reduced but also adapted. REAL Green embraces a decline paradigm so it is green prepping. Consumerism is REAL Greens access to a bounty of high-quality material for the REAL Green Ranch. REAL Green collects and stores the best material and tools for future use. These items have longevity built in. An emphasis is on low tech and simplicity. A REAL Green farm will have plenty of hand tools but also exceptional high-tech tools like solar, batteries, and digital tools. REAL Green understands we are carbon trapped and path dependent so industrial agriculture is accepted as necessary in the fabric of the gradient of decline of a world in overshoot. This means REAL Green does not try to replace industrial agriculture but offers seeds of change for the local for when planetary and social decline drives the local into less affluence. REAL Green behavior is an add on for anyone including industrial ag.

    Green prepping and low footprint living for the benefit of the planet is good and offers meaning. It does not come cheap because it is hybrid and redundant for increased resilience and sustainability. Hyper efficiency of the status quo seeks to drive cost down by whatever means. REAL Green instead seeks to lower cost rationally when applicable in this regard. A solar system is not cheaper than all electric but the resilience has a value. Low stocking rates make an operation less efficient in regards to scale with volume but low stocking rates benefit the environment. Vegetables are cheaper at Walmart but the taste and benefit of having food sources locally has value. REAL Green uses the status quo to leave it so the value in that mentality is primarily about localizing delocalization. Scale is the basis of REAL Green. Humans are not scaled properly and this is primarily the problem with behavior and environmental degradation. Since our environment is now a delocalized Anthropocene to inhabit, one must adapt but also mitigate. The mitigation is localizing the damage delocalization does.

    Ultimately REAL Green is about the wisdom of less. The reason less is the focus is the fact that we are faced with too much from the delocalized world. Costs drive us to delocalize because economies of scale and comparative advantage offer cost advantages. Cheap energy allows transport that harms a local both with products introduced but also the delocalizing ability to leave the local. REAL Green balances these demands with localism and resilience in mind. Currently REAL Green localism is not even on the radar screen and for those who read these words REAL Green may be considered nutter. That will change as the collapse process intensifies. Since REAL Green is behavioral it is about the meaning that comes with increasing the strength and survivability of a local. REAL Green does not have to be a ranch but permaculture should be a component. Real Green can be a trade and might include travel like life found in sailing. Scale dictates REAL Green value.

  39. The Board on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 6:28 am 

    Cloggie is free to post comments in any language he so chooses. There are no rules on this unmoderated forum.

  40. Cloggie on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 6:36 am 

    “Italy’s Government Could Collapse Six Different Ways This Month”

    Yep, the downfall of the Italian left, the final breakthrough in Italy, that country becoming the first western European nation with a populist pro-Russian government:

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2019/08/13/salvini-my-only-purpose-is-to-save-europe/

    “Salvini: “My only purpose is to save Europe””

    Globalist Britain out, European de facto white nationalist Russia in.

    Italy, the fascist original.lol

    The Soros bunch need not apply:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jt9MLdg3JQ

    Salvini is completely up-to-speed with the JQ.

    Next are the breakup of the UK, handing over burned Australia to the Chinese and 640 million continental Europeans ending CW2 in North-America and help splitting the joint up and parking large parts of North-America in a global European culture circle. Anglos calling themselves English-speaking Europeans, that’s more than good enough for them, in the light of their actions in the 20th century. From then on whitey will march on, where the backbone of white civilization will be constituted, in no particular order, by Germans, French, Russians and Amerikaner plus a British-Canadian sideshow.

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/25/amerikaner/

    The German-sounding term “Amerikaner” is to be seen as a middle finger against Anglo-globalism, it is to be seen as the North-American version of the boer-Dutch “Afrikaner” in South-Africa and yes, it is the middle finger towards London.

    And to be fair, the Germans are still the largest subgroup in North-America, playing in to the American myth that at some point the national language of Amerika was almost German-speaking after a narrowly missed vote.

    End-good, all good.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/24/lord-heseltine-suggests-brexit-allowing-germany-win-world-war/

    “Lord Heseltine suggests Brexit vote allows Germany to win World War Two “

  41. The Bored on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 6:53 am 

    JuanP is free to be a troll with ID theft and mindless sock puppets because this is an unmoderated forum

  42. Cloggie on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 7:00 am 

    The oil age will be buried in the Gulf:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7853307/Slain-general-Soleimanis-coffin-paraded-streets-furious-chants-death-America.html

    “Slain general Soleimani’s coffin is paraded through streets to furious chants of ‘death to America’ after body is flown back to Iran – as Dominic Raab insists Boris Johnson is ‘in charge’ despite him only jetting home from holiday today”

  43. Cloggie on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 7:11 am 

    Peter Hitchins is still able to think clearly:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7852247/PETER-HITCHENS-killing-Iranian-General-Qasem-Soleimani-state-murder.html

    “PETER HITCHENS: The killing of Iranian General Qasem Soleimani was state murder. How can anyone be so bloody stupid?”

    P.S. hot investment tip in the wake of the Soleimani murder:

    Vestas

    Vattenfall

    Statoil – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaBML1FacTk

    Siemens-Gamesa

    Van Oord – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV9PykR5bHo

    Sif – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-4zIJfkWqA

    Nel-Hydrogen

    ITM-Hydrogen

    And many more…

  44. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 7:23 am 

    Clogg Europe is a lame duck. They have no natural resources and have no shared language or culture.

    And Russia is peaking soon and has a GDP the size of Italy. They are a trailer park with nukes.

    No alpha male can save you or your region. And no matter how much you spam articles from your ‘censored’ and cheap and ugly blog, will change that.

    I would get off the computer if I was you. And get a job and life. Before shit starts hitting the fans. The future isn’t going to pleasant. And there isn’t enough resources to restructure anything, whether it be a all white society or all Commie society. Doesn’t matter. When supplies start running out it will be every country for themselves and then it will be every man.

  45. REAL Green on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 7:35 am 

    REAL Green library additions:

    LOW-TECH MAGAZINE
    The Printed Website: Second Volume Out Now
    https://tinyurl.com/tpsjwd4

    Contents
    How to downsize a transport network: the Chinese wheelbarrow
    Medieval smokestacks: fossil fuels in pre-industrial times
    The bright future of solar powered factories
    Pedal powered farms and factories: the forgotten future of the stationary bicycle
    Bike powered electricity generators are not sustainable
    The short history of early pedal powered machines
    Insulation: first the body, then the home
    Aerial ropeways: automatic cargo transport for a bargain
    Hand powered drilling tools and machines
    Boat mills: water powered, floating factories
    Recycling animal and human dung is the key to sustainable farming
    The status quo of electric cars: better batteries, same range
    The sky is the limit: human powered cranes and lifting devices
    Wood gas vehicles: firewood in the fuel tank
    Gas bag vehicles
    Trolley canal boats
    How (not) to resolve the energy crisis
    Hoffmann kilns
    Wind powered factories: history (and future) of industrial windmills
    Water powered cable trains
    Get wired (again): Trolleybuses and Trolleytrucks
    Electric road trains in Germany, 1901 – 1950
    The monster footprint of digital technology
    Cargo ships, then and now
    Moonlight towers: light pollution in the 1800s
    Tiles as a substitute for steel: the art of the timbrel vault
    A steam powered submarine: the Ictíneo
    The Citroen 2CV: cleantech from the 1940s
    Life without airplanes: from London to New York in 3 days and 12 hours
    Satellite navigation in the 18th century
    Email in the 18th century: the optical telegraph
    Low-tech Magazine 2007-2012, Kris De Decker, ISBN 9781794711525, 618 pp., December 2019
    Low-tech Magazine 2012-2018, Kris De Decker, ISBN 9780359478330, 710 pp., March 2019. This volume is also available for the Kindle e-reader.

  46. Cloggie on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 7:44 am 

    WW1 was unleashed on the occasion of the murder of the Austrian heir to the throne in Sarajewo. This killing could very well unleash WW3 and terminate empire once and for all.

    “Clogg Europe is a lame duck”

    Really? We just won competition on global markets.

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2019/12/27/european-golden-decade-2010-2020/

    We control the global car industry, after the Boeing debacle the global aerospace industry. In the top ten of the world’s fastest trains most are European and the Chinese ones are build with European know-how. American fast trains don’t exist:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzv_wQBkSvM

    The Dutch control the global IT-hardware industry for 90%, where Samsung, Apple, Huawei and Intel are merely ASML’s travelling salesmen.

    “They have no natural resources and have no shared language or culture.”

    Our main resource is European creativity, the shared language is English and we have an EU that has all state functions minus the military, but we are working on that one. Russia, the coming Great European nation, has all the resources we will ever need.

    “The future isn’t going to pleasant.”

    Absolutely, especially not for your tribe. WW3-CW2 are next, that is a divided ZOG-USA against the rest of the world. How would you like your pogrom sir, medium or well-done?

  47. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 9:23 am 

    Most Swiss ‘reject far-right plan to end free movement with EU’

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/05/most-swiss-reject-far-right-plan-to-end-free-movement-with-eu

    The far right is using immigration to turn their countries into slave states.

    And dumbasses like CLogg eat it up like candy.

  48. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 9:29 am 

    Clogg

    Your civil war fantasies are just as dumb and baseless as your renewable fantasies. Notice the same illogical thinking?

    If you want the future to be bright then I suggest you get off your fat ass and do something about it. Sitting on a computer all day spamming isn’t going to accomplish anything.

    Here is your favorite source making up fake news
    https://i.redd.it/8ohkoewynu841.jpg

    Now go ahead and share more of their stories. I guess you never get tired of being the useful idiot.

    LOL

  49. Cloggie on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 9:33 am 

    “Most Swiss ‘reject far-right plan to end free movement with EU’”

    Big deal. Switzerland decides to keep letting in their fellow white Europeans, those who bring money, and decided not to bite the hand that feeds them.

    I go to Switzerland at least once a year, the country were my parents met, with me as the glorious result.lol

    Going to Switzerland is an act of self-celebration at the location where it all began, in the fifties, the most beautiful valley in the world:

    https://images.app.goo.gl/xXQ3ucPf7Y1kFN4A6

    Lauterbrunnental

  50. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 5th Jan 2020 9:37 am 

    There are going to take our guns! We are headed towards a civil war! The white population is being replaced!

    OMG! Lions, Tigers, and Bears oh my!

    LOL

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