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Capitalism: The Nightmare
The neoliberal, arch-capitalist era we inhabit is chock-full of statistics and stories that ought to send chills down the spines of any caring, morally sentient human. Nearly three-fourths (71 percent) of the world’s population is poor, living on $10 a day or less, and 11 percent (767 million people, including 385 million children) live in what the World Bank calls “extreme poverty” (less than a $1.90 a day). Meanwhile, Oxfam reliably reports that, surreal as it sounds, the world’s eight richest people possess among themselves as much wealth as the poorest half of the entire human race.
The United States, self-described homeland and headquarters of freedom and democracy, is no exception to the harshly unequal global reality. Six of the world’s eight most absurdly rich people are U.S. citizens: Bill Gates (whose net worth of $426 billion equals the wealth of 3.6 billion people), Warren Buffett (Berkshire Hathaway), Jeff Bezos (Amazon), Mark Zuckerberg (Facebook), Larry Ellison (Oracle) and Michael Bloomberg (former mayor of New York City). As Bernie Sanders said repeatedly on the campaign trail in 2016, the top 10th of the upper 1 percent in the U.S. has nearly as much wealth as the nation’s bottom 90 percent. Seven heirs of the Walton family’s Walmart fortune have among them a net worth equal to that of the nation’s poorest 40 percent. Half the U.S. population is poor or near-poor, and half lacks any savings.
Just over a fifth of the nation’s children, including more than a third of black and Native American children, live below the federal government’s notoriously inadequate poverty level, while parasitic financiers and other capitalist overlords enjoy unimaginable hyper-opulence. One in seven U.S. citizens relies on food banks in “the world’s richest country.” Many of them are in families with full-time wage-earners—a reflection of the fact that wages have stagnated even as U.S. labor productivity consistently has risen for more than four decades.
Failure by Design
These savage inequalities reflect government policy on behalf of “the 1 percent” (better, perhaps, to say “the 0.1 percent”). U.S. economic growth since the late 1970s has been unequally distributed, thanks to regressive policy choices that have served the rich and powerful at the expense of ordinary working people. As Joshua Bivens of the Economic Policy Institute showed in his important 2011 study, “Failure by Design,” the following interrelated, bipartisan and not-so-public policies across the long neoliberal era have brought us to a level of inequality that rivals the Gilded Age of the late 19th-century robber barons era. These policies include:
● Letting the value of the minimum wage be eroded by inflation.
● Slashing labor standards for overtime, safety and health.
● Tilting the laws governing union organizing and collective bargaining strongly in favor of employers.
● Weakening the social safety net.
● Privatizing public services.
● Accelerating the integration of the U.S. economy with the world economy without adequately protecting workers from global competition.
● Shredding government oversight of international trade, currency, investment and lending.
● Deregulating the financial sector and financial markets.
● Valuing low inflation over full employment and abandoning the latter as a worthy goal of fiscal and economic policy.
These policies increased poverty and suppressed wages at the bottom and concentrated wealth at the top. They culminated in the 2007-09 Great Recession, sparked by the bursting of a housing bubble that resulted from the deregulation of the financial sector and the reliance of millions of Americans on artificially inflated real estate values and soaring household debt to compensate for poor earnings.
After the crash, the government under both George W. Bush and Barack Obama bailed out the very financial predators who pushed the economy over the cliff. The Obama administration, populated by Goldman Sachs and Citigroup operatives, left the rest of us to wonder “Where’s our bailout?” as 95 percent of the nation’s new income went to the top 1 percent during his first term.
Ordinary Citizens Have No Influence Over Their Government
All of this and much more is contrary to technically irrelevant American public opinion. But so what? You don’t have to be a leftist to know that the United States’ political order is a corporate and financial plutocracy. Three years ago, liberal political scientists Martin Gilens of Princeton University and Benjamin Page of Northwestern University determined that the U.S. political system has functioned as an oligarchy over the past three-plus decades, in which wealthy elites and their corporations rule. As Gilens explained to the liberal online journal Talking Points Memo, “Ordinary citizens have virtually no influence over what their government does in the United States.”
Shock Profits
Most of this results from the normal, business-rule-as-usual operation of the American political process. Sometimes—as during “natural disasters” such as Hurricanes Katrina, Harvey and Irma—crisis moments allow wealthy interests to rack up huge profits almost overnight while much of the population is too shocked and distracted to respond. As Susan Zakin notes in the Los Angeles Review of Books, “Handing out billions for hurricane reconstruction will shore up [Donald] Trump’s faltering support on Wall Street and among major corporations profiting from a bonanza expected to top $100 billion.” Katrina provided precisely such a business opportunity to corporate America. So did the U.S. invasion of Iraq.
‘Isn’t It Beautiful?’
At the same time, Houston, for instance, is a much bigger scene of devastation than it would be but for business-rule-as-usual. The city was recklessly built up by and for elite financial and real estate interests and their governmental tools without the slightest concern for environmental sustainability and resilience. As Zakin notes:
[W]ithout a zoning code, [Houston is] a case study in urban sprawl. Houston was built on a dry (read: low-lying) lakebed that’s laced with bayous. The bayous are lined with concrete, steel and sheet metal, which is functional when it rains a little, but a contender for the luge event when it rains a lot, even in posh neighborhoods like River Oaks. Doing what it takes to prevent flooding, widening bayou channels, managing growth, putting in green space, might impede the only truly important flow: money. Houston’s city fathers have resisted any effort to plan for climate change, because, well, it doesn’t exist. As if that weren’t enough, parts of Houston are sinking, some as much as 2.2 inches a year.
It’s an epitome of the deadly “free market” chaos favored by arch-capitalist political actors such as the right-wing billionaire Charles Koch and his friend, the “libertarian” Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz. In his recent, widely read book, “Conscience of a Conservative,” Flake writes with fondness about the time he met the eminent neoliberal University of Chicago economist Milton Friedman:
We picked him up at the airport, and while we were driving to a suburb of Phoenix we went through what could only be described as suburban sprawl. Someone in the car with us, remarking on this landscape, said, ‘Man, it looks like there was no planning at all.’ Friedman just nodded his head and said, ‘Yes, isn’t it beautiful?’ … [I]t wasn’t government coercion that had brought it into being. It was the invisible hand of the free market. Planning requires control, control empowers government, and empowered government = disempowered individuals.
Houston is the “petro-metro,” a major capital of the petrochemical industry and home to numerous toxic waste sites. As a result, the city’s floodwaters are loaded with hazardous materials.
How beautiful.
The “free market” madness rolls on. Like the melting polar ice, which opens up new business opportunities for oil drilling and ship travel even as it reduces earth’s ability to reflect sunlight back into space, the devastation resulting from extreme weather is both a consequence of the rule of big corporations (the real masters of the “free market” since the early 20th century in the U.S.) and a perverse opportunity for quick corporate profits.
On Aug. 15, 10 days before Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, Donald Trump, himself a global real estate baron, wiped out an Obama-era executive order mandating that federal reconstruction grants take account of sea-level rise and related aspects of climate change.
Capitalist Climate-astrophe
Meanwhile, speaking of climate change, anthropogenic—really, capitalogenic—global warming threatens to turn the venerable popular struggle for a more equal distribution of wealth into a fight over the slicing up of a poisoned pie. The signs of climate catastrophe are unmistakable. Record-setting wildfires raged on the nation’s West Coast, and a devastating drought plagued much of the nation’s northern Great Plains as Houston was sunk in epic, chemically polluted flooding and Irma bore down on Florida. Like Hurricane Sandy (which filled New York City subway tunnels with storm surge on the eve of the 2012 elections), the Indian and Pakistani heat waves of 2015, Hurricane Katrina (2005), the Alberta, Canada, wildfires of 2016 and numerous other recent, lethal, meteorological episodes, this extreme weather is intensified by the spiking balminess of the planet.
The warming is fueled by capital-captive humanity’s excessive release of carbon dioxide resulting from the profit system’s rapacious extraction and burning of fossil fuels and its reliance on animal agriculture. Carbon accumulates in the atmosphere, trapping heat and melting the world’s glaciers and permafrost, which holds vast reserves of carbon-rich methane. As the ice caps retreat, less sunlight gets reflected back into space and more of it heats the planet toward a point where it becomes uninhabitable.
Extreme weather is just the tip of the melting iceberg. If not reversed, global warming will destroy the human species through famine, dehydration, overheating, disease and resource wars. It has us on the path to hell.
‘A Death Knell for the Species’
Trump has taken advantage of the nation’s plutocratic political dysfunction to become a kind of one-man ecological apocalypse. The fossil-fueled hurricanes, drought and wildfires of 2017 have hit the U.S. at a time when the White House is occupied by an openly ecocidal billionaire whose election rang what Noam Chomsky called an environmental “death knell for the species.” Trump has pulled the United States out of the moderate Paris climate accord. He has removed all references to climate change from federal websites and chose a fellow petro-capitalist climate change denier dedicated to crippling the Environmental Protection Agency to lead that department. Trump’s secretary of state is the former longtime CEO of Exxon Mobil Corp., history’s most powerful fossil fuel corporation—a company that buried and then organized propaganda against its own scientists’ warnings on carbon’s impact on the climate. Trump’s proposed budget calls for a 16 percent cut to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which monitors all things climate- and weather-related.
This is ecocidal petro-capitalist madness on steroids.
After Harvey nailed Houston and before Irma hit Florida, Trump held a chilling ecocidal rally in front of an oil refinery in North Dakota. He boasted of how he had exited the “job-killing” Paris agreement (“It was so bad”) and approved the planet-cooking and supposedly job-creating Dakota Access and Keystone XL pipelines.
“I also did Keystone,” Trump said. “You know about Keystone. Another other one, big one—big. First couple of days in office, those two—48,000 jobs.”
Trump said the White House was going to make North Dakota’s current terrible drought vanish because “we’re working hard on it and it’ll disappear. It will all go away.”
The president also asserted that the thousands of Americans who protested the Dakota Access pipeline within and beyond the Standing Rock Indian Reservation last year had no idea why they were against it.
It may have been his most absurd speech yet.
The System Is Working
Like so much else in U.S. government policy, Trump’s anti-environmental actions are contrary to majority-progressive public opinion. Who cares? It’s one more in a long line of examples showing that “We the People” are not sovereign in the failed, arch-plutocratic and militantly capitalist state that is the 21st century United States.
Many Americans find this difficult to process because they have been taught to foolishly conflate popular self-governance with capitalism—what the George W. Bush White House called “a single sustainable model for national success.”
This is a great lie. My old copy of Webster’s New Twentieth Century Dictionary defines capitalism as “the economic system in which all or most of the means of production and distribution … are privately owned and operated for profit, originally under fully competitive conditions: it has been generally characterized by a tendency toward concentration of wealth and, [in] its latter phase, by the growth of great corporations, increased government controls, etc.”
This definition does not mention any of the things routinely and inaccurately identified with capitalism in the dominant U.S. political and intellectual discourse: democracy, freedom, trade, job creation, growth and/or a “free market” that is characterized by widespread competition and/or little or no government interference. Capitalism is about profit for the owners of capital—period. They attain this through any number of means. The most damaging include:
● Seizing others’ land and materials.
● Slavery (the leading source of capital accumulation in the United States before it was outlawed in 1863–65).
● Firing workers or replacing them with technology.
● Undermining the value and power of labor by “de-skilling” workers by reducing the amount of knowledge and experience they need to do their jobs.
● Abject authoritarian tyranny in the workplace, where Marxist economist Richard Wolff reminds us that most working-age adults spend the majority of their waking hours.
● Outsourcing work to sections of the world economy with the lowest wages and the worst working conditions.
● Hiring and exploiting unprotected migrant workers.
● Slashing wages and benefits, or cheating workers out of them.
● Purely speculative investment.
● Forming monopolies and using them to raise prices.
● Dismantling competing firms, sectors and industries.
● Deadly pollution and perversion of the natural environment.
● Appropriating public assets.
● Military contracting and war production.
● Working to shape political and intellectual culture and policy in capital’s favor by funding political campaigns, hiring lobbyists, buying and controlling the media, manipulating public relations and propaganda, investing in the educational system, offering lucrative employment and other economic opportunities to policymakers and their families, holding key policymaking positions, and threatening to withdraw investment from places that don’t submit to capital’s rules while promising to invest in places that do.
When capitalism is understood for what it is really and only about—investor profit—there is nothing paradoxical about its failure to serve working people and the common good, much less the cause of democracy. If corporate and financial sector profits are high, the system is working for its architects and intended beneficiaries: capitalists. Its great corporations (now granted the legal protection of artificial personhood) are working precisely as they are supposed to under U.S. common law, which holds that (as Michigan’s Supreme Court ruled in Dodge v. Ford Motor Company in 1919), corporate “managers have a legal duty to put shareholders’ interests above all others and no legal authority to serve any other interests.”
The Growth Ideology
Environmental ruin lies at the heart of the system, intimately related back to class rule. As Le Monde’s former ecological editor Herve Kempf noted in his aptly titled 2007 book, “How the Rich Are Destroying the Earth,” the oligarchy sees the pursuit of material growth as “the solution to the social crisis,” the “sole means of fighting poverty and unemployment” and the “only means of getting societies to accept extreme inequalities without questioning them.”
“Growth,” Kempf explained, is meant to “allow the overall level of wealth to arise and consequently improve the lot of the poor without—and this part is never spelled out—any need to modify the distribution of wealth.”
Trump was channeling this deadly “growth ideology” in North Dakota. Sadly, growth on the current carbon-fueled capitalist model has put humanity—not to mention thousands of other sentient beings on earth—on the path to near-term (historically speaking) extinction. We are currently at 410 carbon parts per million in the atmosphere—60 ppm beyond what scientists identified as a hazardous point years ago. We are on pace for 500 ppm—a level that will destroy life on earth—by 2050, if not sooner.
‘Inclusive Capitalism’
“Capitalist democracy” is an oxymoron and a mirage. So is the curious notion of “inclusive capitalism”—a term taken up by the corporate right wing of the Democratic Party, including Hillary Clinton’s closest economic advisers, in 2015. This is the Orwellian name of a global “coalition” set up in 2014 by Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild for super-wealthy elites to advance a “caring capitalism” that “works better for the broad base of society.” Lady Rothschild’s Coalition for Inclusive Capitalism started with what former Rep. Cynthia McKinney described as “a Working Group comprised of such luminaries of social justice as Sir Evelyn de Rothschild of E.L. Rothschild [a financial firm owned by a family worth an estimated $2 trillion], Dominic Barton from McKinsey and Company [$1.3 billion], Ann Cairns [annual salary of $5 million] of MasterCard, Sir Sherard Cowper-Coles of HSBC, Paul Polman [paid 10 million euros in 2014] of Unilever, along with CEOs of various pension plans and philanthropic foundations, like the eponymous Ford and Rockefeller foundations.”
According to one British media report, the Coalition for Inclusive Capitalism’s opening conference boasted a “guest-list … estimated to hold one-third of the world’s investable assets, around £18tr [nearly $25 trillion].”
One of the coalition’s leading speakers and champions is the great arch-neoliberal, former U.S. President Bill Clinton (with a net worth of $80 million)—a right-wing Democrat who did every bit as much to advance the Wall Street “free market” and globalist agenda as Ronald Reagan.
‘We Must Make Our Choice’
One does not have to be a Marxist or other variety of radical to acknowledge basic differences and conflicts between capitalism and democracy. “Democracy and capitalism have very different beliefs about the proper distribution of power,” liberal economist Lester Thurow noted in the mid-1990s. “One [democracy] believes in a completely equal distribution of political power, ‘one man, one vote,’ while the other [capitalism] believes that it is the duty of the economically fit to drive the unfit out of business and into extinction. … To put it in its starkest form, capitalism is perfectly compatible with slavery. Democracy is not.”
More than being compatible with slavery and incompatible with democracy, U.S. capitalism arose largely on the basis of black slavery in the cotton-growing states (as historian Edward Baptist has shown in his prize-winning study, “The Half Has Never Been Told: Slavery and the Making of American Capitalism”) and is, in fact, quite militantly opposed to democracy.
“We must make our choice,” the late Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis is reputed to have said or written: “We may have democracy in this country, or we may have wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we cannot have both.” This statement was unintentionally but fundamentally anti-capitalist. Consistent with the dictionary definition presented above, the brilliant, liberal, French economist Thomas Piketty has shown that capitalism has always been inexorably pulled like gravity toward the concentration of wealth into ever-fewer hands. In the U.S., as across the Western world, the tendency was briefly and partially reversed by the Great Depression and World War II, producing the long “middle class” Golden Age of 1945-1973. But that was an anomalous era, a consequence of epic economic collapse and two global wars. Capitalism has returned to its longue durée inegalitarian norm over the last four-plus decades.
And even before the onset of the neoliberal period, capitalism at its comparatively egalitarian and high-growth, post-WWII Keynesian best had already pushed livable ecology into crisis. It tipped the world into what leading earth scientists have designated a new geological era: The Anthropocene—a period when “human activities have become so pervasive and profound that they rival the great forces of Nature and are pushing the earth into planetary terra incognita … a less biologically diverse, less forested, much warmer, and probably wetter and stormier era.” The not-so-Golden Age brought what sociology professor John Bellamy Foster called “a qualitative transformation in the level of human destructiveness.” If this ecological destructiveness isn’t tamed very soon, nothing that progressives and the left care about is going to matter much: Who wants to turn a poisoned world upside down?
Can environmental catastrophe be averted under capitalism? Not likely. Shifting from fossil fuel reliance and other unsound environmental societal habits and practices—built-in obsolescence, mass consumerism and the endless pursuit of quantitative economic growth, accumulation and “cheap nature” resource appropriation—requires a level of coordinated social and public intervention so extreme that it is incompatible with continued capitalist control of the means of production, investment and distribution. It requires an empowerment of ordinary people and a radical rehabilitation of the concept of the natural and social commons—things that very likely cannot be attained under the continued rule of capital. Stark as American activist Joel Kovel’s formulation may sound, I suspect he is right: “The future will be eco-socialist, because without eco-socialism there will be no future.”
148 Comments on "Capitalism: The Nightmare"
Davy on Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 7:41 am
Geeze, It took the guy pages of whining to get to his two sentence solution. “It requires an empowerment of ordinary people and a radical rehabilitation of the concept of the natural and social commons—things that very likely cannot be attained under the continued rule of capital. Stark as American activist Joel Kovel’s formulation may sound, I suspect he is right: “The future will be eco-socialist, because without eco-socialism there will be no future.”
First there are no solutions to this situation. We have to let that sink in. This is scientific just observe and compare our human ecosystem to other natural ecosystems and you see the natural trends. We are a climax species in a great global extinction event. We have disturbed the carbon cycle both short term in degree of forcing and longer term in the amount of forcing. Many great extinctions have been carbon related. Our civilization is systematically late term. It is peaking in many respects but also with an undulating plateau which makes for a tail end that could meander out years. We could also implode suddenly. A powerful war in NK could do that. A series of poor economic decisions accompanied with unlucky outcomes could cause serious decline. An alternative powered civilization is not going to save us. Nothing will save us as-is but there are other options.
Eco-socialism is a solution with iron wings. Go ahead and fight for it in your local but don’t expect the far flung diverse global system we have today to change. In our delocalized locals we are completely reliant on the global for status quo survival. This does not mean there is no survival without the global just that any other survival will be greatly adapted. Just imagine no consumer based society to support you. Yes that type of survival points to poverty. In many places it points to mass famine.
I see demand management and population control as the key to our species survival. Demand management would be a world where we embrace less affluence in a renewable based world with significantly alternative energy integration. This would be a pyramid arrangement where our most vital services are made more robust in resilience and sustainability. Alternative energies would be part of this. Fossil fuels would be part of it for a significant amount of time also because alternatives may or may not be able to decouple from fossil fuels. Lower down the pyramid we would promote and force people into more primitive situations. Maybe 80% of the people would enter a postmodern agricultural world. This would be akin to 18th century with a sprinkling of the modern to make this type of life less painful. A minimum amount of comforts and education on the basics of good health goes a long way in human satisfaction. In effect we would make 90% of the world 3rd world but without the 3rd world pollution of modernism. Going to a natural 3rd world population would also cull out the old. We are living too long and that must end.
We would have a class and a group at the top maintaining the complexity and the control. This would have to be so humans could follow proper wisdom. Those who would man the controls would be the superior members of our race both in nature and nature. Those in the lower class would be allowed movement to the higher class based upon achievement and biological excellence. This elite group would have an army to enforce law and order. You see how difficult any solutions likely are. Draconian situations point to draconian measures. The alternative is to let nature run its course which is also draconian. So as you see draconian is the name of the game here forward.
Population control would be part of this effort. To begin with a whole generation would be skipped. What does that mean? That means we will go 2 decades without procreation. We could maybe have specialized procreation of a group that will be an effort for a biologically superior line of humans but this would not materially affect the population. Once a generation has been skipped then we would have controlled and permitted procreation. Population control is the most important part of this demand controlled postmodern civilization.
This civilization would be Eco focused because we will have to be focused on repairing a destroyed planetary environment. We have to be prepared to adapt to a world that cannot be repaired in human species time frames. What this means is our species may never again see the complexity and the potential of planetary life we had post the last glacial period. Yet, we could see something better than where we are heading.
This is just fantasy and if it sounds draconian well that is because any solution that is positive longer term must be draconian. The course we are on is a death march. It may be ever so slow as a frog boils but that is the trend. Maybe we have decades to a century of normality. Maybe we adapt global affluence to keep the status quo going for a time but it is not going to power though the century in my mind. Not with all the limits ahead and not with all the damage that must be accounted for. More likely we will have a collapse and very few will be left to wander the fringes of a destroyed planet. Don’t worry we are maybe good for years and you are going to die anyway. The problem is when you look into the eyes of that newborn how can you smile? Whine your whine and talk your Eco socialism but talk it local and realize the global human tragedy will likely swallow you up eventually anyway.
Duncan Idaho on Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 8:13 am
Kovel is a interesting writer.
But, as pointed out about, any smart 10 year old can explain why capitalism has a built in flaw in it’s structure, that will lead to its demise.
fmr-paultard on Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 8:46 am
capitalism works thanks to propaganda, the idea that women are objects of private ownership. they weren’t able to vote or sign legal contracts. this is something tard extremist nazi preachers still believe today. it’s rather anarchronistic. this is why i love and support women. i want them to kill tard extremist nazi preachers while having a career and having fun. i was a paultard and ron paul taught us that if we’re not having fun, we’re not doing it right.
the idea of killing is too extreme and they always discourage it because they want that monopoly for themselves.
i don’t score but i don’t deceive women either. i don’t deceive them and make them gullible so i can increase my chance of scoring.
i’m not into genital harvesting. i’m not into taking brides who are virgin, something that’s still happening elsewhere in the world.
there are two ways to be intelligent, one is to hide or run like a gazelle. women are encouraged to develop this intelligence so they continue to be food for toxic males. the other intelligence is to be lion kings. both are intelligent and i have no preference. i only argue that women can be intelligent like a lion king too.
with weapons we have today women can kill tard exstremist nazi preachers with ease. this is not the case with primitive weapons of nazi era circa 1945.
permaculture is an idea leading women to back breaking labor. this is back to tradition where women work and men eat. this is how traditional societies are organized. lionesess hunt, lion kings eat.
that’s why i oppose permacculture. this and the fact that permacultists disguise themselves when going shopping for industrial ag. products.
if one has to farm, it’s either lazy man farming which i invented, or ag. manufacdturing. a theory that i developed to remove nature from the process of producing food, as much as possible since there’s no covenant with nature.
covenant with nature is something tard exsremist nazi preachers and permacultists have in common. politics is strange they bring odd fellas together in bed.
fmr-paultard on Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 9:23 am
covenant with nature is profane because it’s about double dealing when there’s supposedly only a covenant with god. jesus said to his disciples to sell the cloak and buy a sword. it’s not that extreme to tell women to enlist.
the same tard extremist nazi preachers go on and try to recuit supertard Cambridge Five. the preachers have background in the romantics. this is obsense love.
love of women and love of God is not obsense. asking women to kill their way out of poverty is normal as it is the standard way men have been doing for ages.
many congressmen have military background.
joe on Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 10:21 am
The article points out trumps climate flaws and gives the exact reason. Americans have nothing to lose with trump. They had everything already taken from them by globalisation and immigrant wage competition. The left blames racism. Frankly whites have been very calm despite everything. In South Africa, native blacks routinely lynch immigrants.
Boat on Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 10:46 am
joe,
Frankly, if those who hired illegals were thrown in jail there would be no need of a wall or billions spent on enforcement.
Around 20 trillion in debt, 200 billion expected in storm relied on top of a 478 billion deficit. Trumps answer, add 80 billion to military spending.
Yes Joe, we lose with Trump.
peakyeast on Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 12:44 pm
If all those illegal immigrants were thrown in jail for their crime then there wouldnt be need for a wall anymore. And a lot of americans could get a job at the prisons. 😉
Cloggie on Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 5:32 pm
Last campaign rally in Munich, Germany:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHY6gGZ5iOE
One could get the impression that Merkel is not particularly liked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGaWGi_I10A
makati1 on Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 6:04 pm
” They had everything already taken from them…”
No, not yet. They still are able to consume way more than their share. But, that too is being taken away in the Great Leveling.
Capitalism is dying along with the USD.
makati1 on Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 6:18 pm
“If all those illegal immigrants were thrown in jail” it would:
1. Bankrupt the Federal, state and local governments. )See below)
2. Put a lot of businesses out of business. (Cheap labor)
3. Raise the cost of food and create shortages. (No spoiled American wants to pick crops)
4. Increase taxes. (Someone has to pay)
5. etc.
“The number of undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. remains steady at 11.1 million for the sixth straight year,…” (2016)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/09/20/illegal-immigration-united-states-mexico-asia-africa/90735292/
Do the math: ~11,100,000 X ~$40,000 = ~440,000,000,000./year or almost the cost of the US military.
http://thelawdictionary.org/article/what-is-the-average-cost-to-house-inmates-in-prison/
That would really make the Fascist Police State FSofA a gulag. LOL
JuanP on Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 6:58 pm
This was so truthful and realistic I couldn’t finish reading it; it was simply too depressing. I’d rather spend my time planning a garden. I was supposed to help build a new community garden at Gwen Cherry Park tomorrow but the event got pushed back until November because of Irma. I am assisting with the design and layout and also responsible for planning the planting of 20 (4 by 8) raised beds using the Square Foot Gardening plant spacing system. As with almost every other project I’ve been involved with there are several inefficiencies involved.
Davy on Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 7:21 pm
“Half-way to Catastrophe — Global Hothouse Extinction to be Triggered by or Before 2100 Without Rapid Emissions Cuts”
http://tinyurl.com/y9ckvvmz
“Over recent years, concern about a coming hothouse mass extinction set off by human carbon emissions has been on the rise. Studies of Earth’s deep history reveal that at least 4 out of the 5 major mass extinctions occurred during both hothouse periods and during times when atmospheric and oceanic carbon spiked to much higher than normal ranges. Now a new scientific study reveals that we are have already emitted 50 percent of the carbon needed to set off such a major global catastrophe.”
makati1 on Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 9:00 pm
This article is perfect evidence of the Great Leveling. One of many these days.
“Just over a fifth of the nation’s US) children, including more than a third of black and Native American children, live below the federal government’s notoriously inadequate poverty level, while parasitic financiers and other capitalist overlords enjoy unimaginable hyper-opulence. One in seven U.S. citizens relies on food banks in “the world’s richest country.” Many of them are in families with full-time wage-earners—a reflection of the fact that wages have stagnated even as U.S. labor productivity consistently has risen for more than four decades.”
FAILURE BY DESIGN (The Great Leveling)
“● Letting the value of the minimum wage be eroded by inflation.
● Slashing labor standards for overtime, safety and health.
● Tilting the laws governing union organizing and collective bargaining strongly in favor of employers.
● Weakening the social safety net.
● Privatizing public services.
● Accelerating the integration of the U.S. economy with the world economy without adequately protecting workers from global competition.
● Shredding government oversight of international trade, currency, investment and lending.
● Deregulating the financial sector and financial markets.
● Valuing low inflation over full employment and abandoning the latter as a worthy goal of fiscal and economic policy.”
America is being brought down by the .001% who want to rule. Their OWG requires no strong nations to oppose them. The .001% have no patriotic ties or morals. Third world America is only a matter of time and it is getting short.
Go Speed Racer on Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 9:13 pm
Women are highly respected and values.
That’s why I own several of them.
Les Schwann was asked if he would buy his
wife a gold watch for their 30th anniversary.
He said “Hell no”.
Asked him “why not?”
He said “Cause there’s a clock on the stove!”
Seriously.
Capitalism went to hell in the last 20 years.
Originally the customer was King.
He shopped wisely and carefully,
The corporations beg his attention by
carefully preparing products to interest
the customer. The pinnacle was the
1980’s stereo. Each component,
the speakers amplifiers and cassette deck
And turntable all carefully chosen.
Chosen by the customer.
Now that’s not the case anymore.
Corporation tells you what you will buy.
Says “you will buy an iPhone 8”
There are no alternatives,
and you obey. And buy it.
You don’t need it, you don’t want it,
but you obey the corporate-master.
Now they command
“You will buy LED lights” and you obey.
And they command
“You will buy an iWatch”
and you obey.
Next they will command,
you will buy a driverless electric car”
and you will obey.
But you don’t want or need any of that
crap. What you need is 69
Ford Mustang with a thrifty I-6 and
a manual gearbox.
That’s what you need and want but they
will never sell you that.
Capitalism sucks now.
The customer isn’t King.
Customer is a slave.
Change back to old way.
Stop buying their crap.
fmr-paultard on Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 9:21 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHo3wypzDDk
the phils could overtake the us because they only focus on competing with the us. if thy ignore the enviroment
makati1 on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 1:10 am
One and one half hour proof that the US is 3rd world. Collapse comes in many forms.
“Crumbling America1 Full Documentary”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pducRLyDmiY
I can vouch for the Philadelphia I-95 fiasco. I saw the column and the holes, as I was in the city the day I-95 was closed. I went over to look. I doubt that any improvement has happen since. Patch as cheap as possible until the next emergency.
Collapse of bridges, water systems with tens of thousands of breaks annually, sewage system breaks in the tens of thousands annually, levees breaking with most every rain, and the crumbling of roads, not to mention the electric grid. Tens of trillions of dollars needed NOW. Won’t happen. States are already declaring a form of bankruptcy. The Fed is broke and in deep debt. Local governments are not able to find the money. The US IS 3rd world.
makati1 on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 1:16 am
If that wasn’t enough:
“The Future of America: What is Going On? (2016)”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzkTAcApEqs
Police State America. If you are still in denial … you deserve what is coming.
Cloggie on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 2:35 am
Do I have a treat for frm-paultard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHacFI8K6ck
Cloggie on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 3:06 am
“Crumbling America Full Documentary”
That is what you get if you invest ridiculous amounts of money in a military for no other purpose than to try to subdue the entire world. And that with a majority non-white population in the age bracket [0-5]. America will not only never conquer the entire world, it will not ever again bring its infrastructure back to the old standards.
That’s what you get if you let “neocons” ruin your society by outsourcing immigration, “defense” and foreign policies to them and let them run your brainwashing machina, um I mean the media.
Time is playing in favor of Eurasia; with ever passing year US global power will continue to crumble, until the Europeans in North-America decided they have enough and will revolt and begin the fight for their own European-American ethno-state…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVgXJZ1ZXrI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-RKLdwaYb0
…and Europeans, with a broad grin on their faces, will come to the aid of their younger brothers… and get ZOG-USA over with once and for all.
1945 rolled back.
1776 (somewhat) rolled back.
Bye-bye George Soros, Janet Yellen, Richard Haass, Sulzberger family and all the other media masters, Lloyd Blankfein and the rest of Wall Street, Bill Kristol and the rest of the neocon punks.
Davy on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 4:50 am
“This article is perfect evidence of the Great Leveling. One of many these days.”
Forgot your link dumbass
Davy on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 4:53 am
“and Europeans, with a broad grin on their faces, will come to the aid of their younger brothers… and get ZOG-USA over with once and for all.”
Cleaned up your mess twice, protecting your stupid lazy asses now, and likely will save your asses again in the future and this is the type of puke that comes out of your stupid old people on the old continent. Pathetic scum bags.
Cloggie on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 6:40 am
Cleaned up your mess twice, protecting your stupid lazy asses now, and likely will save your asses again in the future and this is the type of puke that comes out of your stupid old people on the old continent. Pathetic scum bags.
Your never cleaned up anything.
The first time you let yourself being used as cannon fodder by your Jewish masters to acquire Palestine for them (Balfour Deal).
The second time your piggy-backed on the Soviet effort to colonize Eastern Europe, so you could colonize Western Europe, again for your ruling Jews. What you guys did was mostly killing German children and women from safe 10 km altitude and even nuke to Japanese cities. On your own you are too weak to even defeat North-Vietnam, heck or even Somalia (#BlackHawkDown) or Lebanon.lol
But now we are going to liberate you back… because America is demographically split in the middle, a ticking time bomb that can explode any minute… which you know very well, but won’t admit directly. But you have assured yourself a place in white Northern Italy and intend to pollute that wonderful country with your stinking presence if everything goes wrong, because coward sleaze balls like you will never fight for anything. Your have no people, you just have your finance speculator books. Like a true Soviet you identify only with that powerful mass murder machine. There is a distinct shabby Eastern European smell to your lack of self-respect and ethnic pride.
And now you are surrounded. The opportunist that you are will just wait to see who will win and that side you will choose… from a safe distance in Italy.
Poor Davy, Italians have a lot of scores to settle with Americans like you (#1943). And so do Germans and Russians, basically all Europeans apart from Poles.
Friendly advice: move to Baltimore, it is the best you can do in your situation. Because you will not be safe in Missouri either if the deplorables there will found out they have 1-percenter (wannabee) in their midst.
F*head.
makati1 on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 6:48 am
” “If China doesn’t follow these sanctions [against North Korea], we will put additional sanctions on them and prevent them from accessing the US and international dollar system.” … However, China, Russia, and others have seen this day coming and have created their own SWIFT system, world cable network, and world banking system. … This threat by the US at a time when it’s broke is, in effect, economic suicide. … Either way, what we’re witnessing is a train wreck about to happen, and we’re all, to a greater or lesser extent, on that train.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-22/end-nigh
” A collapse is inescapable at this point. The system must be cleansed, much in the way an alcoholic must dry out, or an addict must get the drugs out of his system, before the recovery can begin. … In a collapse of the severity of the one we’re facing, the cleansing promises to be quite long and quite painful. … By any standard, the actions being taken by the US are therefore reckless indeed. The end of the world is not nigh, but the end of the world as we know it most certainly is.”
Well said.
Davy on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 6:54 am
Clog, here is reality, you got your ass kicked. The reality of what happened on the ground was you got your ass kicked, twice no doubt. Your cities were reduced to rubble. The Americans helped you rebuild your cities. The Americans are now protecting you because you are too lazy to do it yourselves. The Russians did the heavy lifting in blood and destruction in WWII but they were part of the European failure. I could give a shit on your excuses for why this happened. But clearly it points to your race being inferior and still inferior. A superior race would not have allowed such humiliations that continue to this day. The fact that your race colonized the world in one big friggen rape and pillage for 400 years is another example of how degrading and low your race is. I am part of the race and I would like to see it redeemed from those ideas you hold dear. You are a despicable person of the lowest character and if you would be given the keys to power there would be a horrible final solution because that is what people like you default to. The reason you default to this is you live in a fantasy world. A person in a fantasy believes the end justifies the means. Hitler, your hero is a prime example. I imagine you have Nazi flags hanging in the closet. I imagine you get butt slapped by some bitch with leather. So, let’s review reality. You got your ass kicked twice. You are being protected now because you are too fucking lazy to defend yourself. That would take too much money and cooperation to achieve so you allow someone to defend you. You blame and complain and point fingers for why your ass got kicked twice and protected currently instead of looking in the mirror and seeing your racism as a failure. You are a failure trying to legitimatize failure. That is a fraud and you are a fraud. So go fuck yourself Sir.
Davy on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 7:02 am
The collapse is both ways dumbass. China and Russia created a monster. They are coddling a monster to this day. They are participating in the slave labor trade. They are pocking ill-gotten gains from dubious NK activity. Russia and China can never replace the US as well documented in this article of the requirements of a reserve currency:
http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2017/09/the-demise-of-dollar-dont-hold-your.html
The US is desperate lately trying to maintain its declining hegemony but it is still a formable nation by all counts. If there is a train wreck in action it is also because of the rest of the world’s involvement. It takes two to tango and the reason the rest of the world is in this position is because they too are a failure. If collapse comes to the US it will come to Asia and Europe also. You are a fraud mkat just like your racist buddy from yyorup.
makati1 on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 7:29 am
I wouldn’t bet on that, Davy. You are blind to the rest of the world. The FSofA has nothing that the rest of the world cannot get along without. America is NOT the “indispensable ” country as you are all going to soon find out. Always blaming others for your own faults.
America, the land of hypocrisy and denial.
Cloggie on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 8:00 am
Clog, here is reality, you got your ass kicked.
Exactly. That what I was pushing for and that will get copied on my quote archive.
Gone are the hypocritical “liberation” lies. You f*heads teamed up with the greatest criminals in world history, the Soviets, just to rape mum. America, the greatest disaster in the history of white race. Endless amounts of low-educated boat and Davy types, easy meat for the koshers that can be easily brainwashed by the kosher media.
The reality of what happened on the ground was you got your ass kicked, twice no doubt. Your cities were reduced to rubble. The Americans helped you rebuild your cities. The Americans are now protecting you because you are too lazy to do it yourselves. The Russians did the heavy lifting in blood and destruction in WWII but they were part of the European failure.
Yep, Europe got defeated alright, By who? By the little guys of the white race, guys like you, easily controlled by their Jewish masters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKUaqFzZLxU
The guys from the taiga and prairie. These Jewish masters set up Britain & Poland against Germany…
https://nationalvanguard.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/The-Forrestal-Diaries-excerpt.jpg
…and could take over the European loot, together with their Soviet buddies. That’s what really happened.
That is exactly your level: the USSR. Huge characterless entities without any identity worth mentioning.
Meanwhile the Russians have recovered from the Jewish communist disaster of 1917. You have not and never will achieve the same, not without foreign aid, just like you were too lame to liberate yourself from your British overlords in 1776 and the French and Dutch had to do most of the work. Won’t be different this time.
At least Russia is a nation and got gradually rid of the Jews between 1938-1953.
You will never manage to do that. Because you folks have no national blood & soil identity. You are all atomized individualists, that can be easily controlled by a smart determined (((group))) that can do with you what they want, like sending you in a war against your mother civilization or any war for that matter. But you are probably not too smart to understand that. Money and goat cheese, that is you. You are more boat level than Greg, who does understand these things. Or Theedrich. Makati a little less so, but still more than you.
And yes, you may have “kicked our ass” on behalf of your Jewish masters (are you proud of that to be a water carrier who wants to phase you out with mass migration.rofl), but now it is time to get your ass kicked. You, makati, Greg and ghung have not brought themselves into safety for nothing. They all are smart enough to know what is coming, the collapse of the US… for demographic reasons, not peak oil or CC.
The US is desperate lately trying to maintain its declining hegemony
You got that right. You got your asses kicked in Iraq, Afghanistan and recently in Syria and that is only the beginning. The whole world has enough of America and its quickly evaporating “hegemony”, that in reality was mostly media hegemony, not a military one. But that media hegemony is now neutralized by the internet.
But the real crucial thing is that white America has enough of Washington and that is what really will break of US territorial integrity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGSAhNZnisk
The Trump voter base will have to acknowledge the coming failure of his presidency and note that the (((Swamp))) is simply too powerful for any president to break in. And then they will be faced with a stark choice: either revolt (shooting war of secession) or put their fate at the mercy of hostile non-whites and white leftist SJW-ers, who are being used as a weapon against white America by the kosher over-class. And in the end those white Americans with an attitude will be put in the Gulag, with you and your BLM buddies as the new Gulag guards. It happened to the Russians, it will happen to white America.
As we speak American white pussy “authorities” are busy cooperating in demonizing every aspect of the history of white America and remove any statue of prominent white Americans.
Here is the true state of American campuses:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO1agIlLlhg
White pussy authorities”” under assault by BLM thugs, because they smell the embarrassing weakness of white America. And they will go ever further once the Swamp will have dealt with the last president who tried to represent European-American interests.
America thought it was “exceptional”, a thought put in their heads by their Jewish masters to persuade them to go out in the world and bring the world at the feet of its masters, just like a dog drops a ball at the feet of his master.
Now white America is in a state of total despair. That’s okay. Let’s humiliate them a little more by the Deep State, by BLM, by Antifa… until they will cry for help from Europe.
And the historic circle will be closed. It is better for rump America to be a junior partner of Paris-Berlin-Moscow rather than the slaves of (((Washington))).
Enjoy the ride, Davy. Now we are going to kick your ass.
Cloggie on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 8:29 am
Angela Merkel is under fire everywhere she comes. Yesterday in Ulm and Munich, both in the conservative South:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl-ZNgTFNLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-SvtOuw-oU
Merkel is the last true vassal, the US Deep State has in continental Europe. Germany is near a 2nd 1989, where this time the US empire will be overthrown, after the Soviet empire has bitten the dust earlier.
Russia waiting to be incorporated into Europe and she will…
Putin [16:39]:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gvbS09gN80
Francois Mitterrand spoke of a European confederation with Russia as a member. I think this opportunity still exists. We will have it in the future.
This confederation would have 700 million and enough military strength + nukes to intervene in a grand scale conflict on US soil. And if white America (ca. 130 million in the Heartland) has the choice between drowning in the third world or become reincorporated in the European world, the will chose the second option. And that is how America will come to its end, regardless of how our resident imperialist and “racism!” shouter Davy likes to think.
Babtized on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 10:45 am
Always remember that Jews have a very large amount of African blood in them. They were slaves in Egypt. Black curly hair, dark eyes & complexion.
Apneaman on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 12:01 pm
Babtized, sounds real scientific. I bet you’re a geneticist in your day job eh? This is why I keep coming back to peakoil.com, fer da top quality of insightful and logical arguments and the high standard of evidence.
Cloggie on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 12:23 pm
Always remember that Jews have a very large amount of African blood in them. They were slaves in Egypt. Black curly hair, dark eyes & complexion.
Babtized, sounds real scientific. I bet you’re a geneticist in your day job eh? This is why I keep coming back to peakoil.com, fer da top quality of insightful and logical arguments and the high standard of evidence.
Even apneaman doesn’t like to be called an African.lol
I am for a change on the side of apneaman, it is ridiculous to call him an African, although his kind loves to talk us into race-mixing.
He is a Turk, with Talmud brain software.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars
The Khazars (Turkish: Hazarlar, Tatar: Xäzärlär, Hebrew: כוזרים (Kuzarim),[8] Arabic: خزر (khazar), Ukrainian: Хоза́ри, Russian: Хаза́ры, Persian: خزر, Greek: Χάζαροι, Latin: Gazari/Gasani) were a semi-nomadic Turkic people, who created what for its duration was the most powerful polity to emerge from the break-up of the Western Turkic Kaganate.
TalmudTurk.
90% of the Jews are Khazars, that is fake Jews. Only 10% are “real Jews” (Sefardim).
Over the last few years even Israelis, not exactly the brightest bulbs in the Christmas tree, found that out:
https://www.amazon.com/Invention-Jewish-People-Shlomo-Sand-ebook/dp/B00G2DO15E/ref=sr_1_1
(massive bestseller).
Before the term “anti-Wolgabulgarism” will begin to bite, we’ll be a century further down the road.lol
Boat on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 12:53 pm
clog,
While you personally love Germans do you think Russia has forgotten all the murders of WWII. This entire Russia EU team concept seems far-fetched. Are the British and French really ready to follow Putin? lol Or Putin follow the EU?
Cloggie on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 1:11 pm
While you personally love Germans do you think Russia has forgotten all the murders of WWII. This entire Russia EU team concept seems far-fetched. Are the British and French really ready to follow Putin? lol Or Putin follow the EU?
The British people have wrong-footed their own elite and forced a Brexit. That opens the door to Moscow. Britain was never in the EU for another reason than to try to destroy it. That is now over.
France has always had a Gaullist anti-Anglo tradition, with the exception of (((Sarko))) the American.
The Russians in vast majority, including Putin, want to be part of Europe, not in the least to react to the threatening meteoric rise of neighbor China, in addition to the century old drive of the Russian elite to connect to Europe.
It is true that WW2 was little more that the gigantic clash between the two greatest European peoples the Germans and Russians.
It needs to be said that your understanding of WW2 is, surprise surprise, a perfect copy of what your (((media))) have pumped in your brain. Most Russians are meanwhile familiar with the “theory” that Barbarossa was in reality a pre-emptive strike, because the USSR was in a state of full mobilization to prepare for the attack against Europe. It was a defensive move, backed by international law. But Soviets and Anglos covered that up in Nuremberg. But it is all coming out now, thanks to the internet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbBnRZoTHFs
WW2 was the intentional rape of Europe by the kosher dominated parvenus USA and USSR.
Even Davy admitted that today. Slowly we are getting there.
onlooker on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 1:21 pm
I prefer to take a more Global view instead of just focusing on US. The Great disparity is actually seen with this http://worldcentric.org/conscious-living/social-and-economic-injustic
Basically, 20% have access to 80% of worlds resources leaving the inverse to be true. So, 20% is roughly 1 and half billion people, so more than just the US all the rich countries.
Davy on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 1:54 pm
Clogster, admitted what, that you got your ass kicked twice and we are still coddling you. Why not reference what I admitted buttwipe.
Boat on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 2:13 pm
clog,
“The British people have wrong-footed their own elite and forced a Brexit. That opens the door to Moscow”.
I don’t pretend to know the brits but from what I read they didn’t want immigration. They also didn’t want to bail out other countries financially. Bringing in a country much lower per capita earnings and their own immigration problems, what would Britan gain.
Boat on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 4:25 pm
onlooker,
In 1990 there were 2 billion in extreme poverty. Common dreams state 700 million as some kind of failure. Since 1990 there are 2 billion more people. Doesn’t the math suggest an improvement?
Cloggie on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 4:51 pm
I don’t pretend to know the brits but from what I read they didn’t want immigration.
They will get immigration alright, but from the wrong countries. Even “right-wing” UKIP is pro-immigration… from their Commonwealth. Pakis instead of Poles. These Brits are going to miss the Eastern European.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/674289/Diane-James-Britain-migration-European-Union-Ukip-EU-referendum-Brexit
They also didn’t want to bail out other countries financially. Bringing in a country much lower per capita earnings and their own immigration problems, what would Britan gain.
Britain as a non-euro country has not contributed to any bail-outs.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36456277
Bringing in a country much lower per capita earnings and their own immigration problems, what would Britan gain.
That’s quite a statement for somebody like you, who is stuck with tens of millions of third worlders. Are you saying that America has gained nothing from mass immigration? Is that not that a racist thing to say (not that I care)? Don’t you know that after “cheeto” will have left the WH, tptb will swamp you with further immigration (not that I care)? And that Capt’n Faceberg has openly flirted with universal healthcare and basic income, to be paid for by folks like you, who claim to have a cigar budget, larger than makati’s income (not that I care)?
Cloggie on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 5:10 pm
Clogster, admitted what, that you got your ass kicked twice and we are still coddling you.
Good, you finally confirmed what I have said all along and you always denied until today, namely that you intentionally killed millions of Germans, raped 200,000 of their women, bombed all major cities, and to top it off invented a holocaust, just to “kick ass”, read subjugate the Germans and the rest of the Western Europeans, leaving the Eastern European loot to the Soviets, all planned in advance.
And after that candid admission (because you were angry) you are going to continue to demand us to be nice “pro-Americans”.
But now you have to explain that “coddling part”. You probably mean your insane claim that you “protected us all the time against the Soviets”… after you teamed up with them first and next destroyed us. You need a new text writer, pall.
You are making more enemies than you can handle, lying f*ckwitz.
The enemy of Europe and European man, that’s you. Wait for the Karma boomerang to hit you in your ugly face. Nothing is forgotten, the tide is turning, you have made an enemy of everybody and there is nowhere to hide.
makati1 on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 5:26 pm
Cloggie, Davy doesn’t recognize the rest of the world as a place that matters. Only his ‘exceptional’ country and a goat farm in Mizzo can be a place to live and be happy.
He will not accept that the USSR, at great cost, kept the Germans from eventually winning WW2. America only entered the war when it was about over and the Germans were losing. Just like in WW1.
They don’t teach real history in America.
Go Speed Racer on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 5:54 pm
Clogster, That Justin Trudeau
comes across very shrill high pitched
and faggoty doesn’t he. Seems like
feminism has made plenty enough
women into perpetual victims,
along with they all hate men.
Don’t see any need to dwell on
feminism at
this point like Trudeau suggested.
Cloggie on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 5:54 pm
“The British people have wrong-footed their own elite and forced a Brexit. That opens the door to Moscow”.
This is from a British comedy, but actually represents the truth of how the British elite really thinks about Europe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37iHSwA1SwE
And then Camoron calls for a referendum in the expectation he will win, but next he loses. Wrong-footed by the upper-age segment of the electorate. Wrong-footed because the UK didn’t manage to destroy the EU from within while they were a member.
What is next will be a hard Brexit, Britain will withdraw and the EU will contemplate how they can compensate themselves. And they will not need much time to come up with an idea and that idea is Gibraltar.
The Spanish, with the backing of Brussels, could in a nacht-und-nebel-aktion, occupy Gibraltar, the most strategic location in Europe. The pretext will be that the rock will be occupied for the duration of the Brexit negotiations standoff. Assurances will be given that the rock will be given back after an agreement will have been reached. Which of course will never happen. Gibraltar is worth a few tens of billions alright.
Spain soon needs an artificial conflict to deflect from a possible civil war over Catalan independence.
Brussels is well-advised to have a talk in advance with Russia and China about a common strategy, because you can expect the US to back the UK and demand Gibraltar back, with the threat of force.
Then we have our desired conflict between Eurasia and Anglosphere.
The great temptation for the Chinese will be the acquisition of Australia.
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/america-australias-dangerous-ally-11858
Davy on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 5:54 pm
References diaper daddies. You old men like talking shit after you have been bitch slapped. Must be a pride thingy.
Cloggie on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 6:02 pm
Clogster, That Justin Trudeau
comes across very shrill high pitched
and faggoty doesn’t he. Seems like
feminism has made plenty enough
women into perpetual victims,
along with they all hate men.
Don’t see any need to dwell on
feminism at
this point like Trudeau suggested.
After Merkel, Trudeau is the most disgusting politician in the West.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtjiLQrkznU
Cloggie on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 6:20 pm
Poor Antius, born in the wrong country. That snake of a Farage fake nationalist only wanted to halt immigration of Europeans.. in order to pave the way for more Indians and Africans:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/22/nigel-farage-immigrants-india-australia-better-than-eastern-europeans
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3630847/More-black-people-allowed-Britain-leave-EU-immigration-non-issue-says-Nigel-Farage.html
More black people will be allowed into Britain if we leave the EU and immigration will become a ‘non-issue’, says Nigel Farage
They want to commit suicide. Ah well it is time anyway as everybody gets a century:
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/20160612_nothing.jpg
Time is up, Anglosphere.
Cloggie on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 6:36 pm
B-b-but representative Steve King, don’t you know that you can’t say these things? Don’t you know that Davy will come after you and shout “racist”:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/18/rep-steve-king-wonders-what-sub-groups-besides-whites-made-contributions-to-civilization/?utm_term=.45396001d5aa
http://www.eurocanadian.ca/2017/09/europeans-always-greatest-in-everything.html
http://i.imgur.com/kivHY0g.png?1
GregT on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 6:56 pm
“References diaper daddies. You old men like talking shit after you have been bitch slapped. Must be a pride thingy.”
Two words.
Nut.
Bar.
Davy on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 7:00 pm
grehg, go walk the dog, I could care less what you think. It is obvious you have a warped mind just like your boyfriend. You follow his every move in loving admiration. Pretty sick if you ask me.
GregT on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 7:11 pm
The dog has already done about 8 miles today Davy.
He’s pretty tuckered out.
And Davy, your fixation on things homosexual speaks volumes about your tendencies.
Get help.
Boat on Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 7:16 pm
clog,
Sigh, sigh.
That’s quite a statement for somebody like you, who is stuck with tens of millions of third worlders. Are you saying that America has gained nothing from mass immigration?
I am against immigration and have been for decades. The reason is sustainability. I was probably influenced by a book called The Population Bomb. I got an A on a report I wrote in 1975 dealing with the idea of sustainability. lol
I have also complained about immigration because of the way our gov handled flows. For instance, If unemployment is above 5 percent that is no time for a new immigrant.
If we do use immigration make sure they fit holes in the workforce. If we need 30,000 welders, allow 20,000 welders in etc. Bring them in by occupation but always leave some demand.
I am not like you. Race means nothing.