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A Dire Future

Public Policy

Do you remember all the hopes Americans had for Obama when we elected him to his first term? Painful memories. He betrayed the voters on every one of his promises. There was no change, except for the worst as Obama went on to become one of the most vicious war criminals in world history. Despite his horrific record, we re-elected him, only to have US economic policy turn against the people in order to bail out at our expense the mega-banks and the One Percent.

Now Obama is coercing Asia and Europe to turn the governments of their countries over to rapacious American corporations empowered by TPP and TTIP to subordinate all interests to their profits.

Here is Pepe Escobar on how the great and wonderful United States treats its enserfed vassals:

“Hardball, predictably, is the name of the game. Washington no less than threatened to block EU car exports [to the US] to force the EU to buy [Monsanto’s] genetically engineered fruits and vegetables.”

Now we face the prospect of electing an even worse president than Obama—Killary Clinton. Killary is the bought-and-paid-for property of Wall Street, Israel, and the military-security complex. She will bring back to power the totally discredited neoconservatives, and the US will proceed with its butchery and slaughter of other countries and all reformist governments everywhere.

The question is: will enough insouciant Americans align with the One Percent, the neocons, the men-hating feminists, homosexuals, the transgendered, and other “preferred minorities” to put the US presidency in the hands of an aggressive, corrupt person with a conscience deficit? That is the goal toward which the presstitutes are driving the brainwashed.

If we end up with Killary, neither the US nor the world will survive the mistake. She will be the last American president.

Killary is compromised with secret agendas, and secret agendas lead to conflict and war. With a crazed President Killary who declared Russian Presient Vladimir Putin, the world’s leading peacemaker, to be “the new Hitler,” with crazed American generals who declare Russia to be “an existential threat to the United States,” and with the insane neoconservatives back in the saddle determined to impose American hegemony on the rest of the world, Killary’s election will terminate life on earth.

From the Archive:

September 28, 2014

Washington’s Secret Agendas

One might think that by now even Americans would have caught on to the constant stream of false alarms that Washington sounds in order to deceive the people into supporting its hidden agendas.

The public fell for the lie that the Taliban in Afghanistan are terrorists allied with al Qaeda. Americans fought a war for 13 years that enriched Dick Cheney’s firm, Halliburton, and other private interests only to end in another Washington failure.

The public fell for the lie that Saddam Hussein in Iraq had “weapons of mass destruction” that were a threat to America and that if the US did not invade Iraq Americans risked a “mushroom cloud going up over an American city.” With the rise of ISIS, this long war apparently is far from over. Billions of dollars more in profits will pour into the coffers of the US military security complex as Washington fights those who are redrawing the false Middle East boundaries created by the British and French after WW I when the British and French seized territories of the former Ottoman Empire.

The American public fell for the lies told about Gaddafi in Libya. The formerly stable and prosperous country is now in chaos.

The American public fell for the lie that Iran has, or is building, nuclear weapons. Sanctioned and reviled by the West, Iran has shifted toward an Eastern orientation, thereby removing a principal oil producer from Western influence.

The public fell for the lie that Assad of Syria used “chemical weapons against his own people.” The jihadists that Washington sent to overthrow Assad have turned out to be, according to Washington’s propaganda, a threat to America.

The greatest threat to the world is Washington’s insistence on its hegemony. The ideology of a handful of neoconservatives is the basis for this insistence. We face the situation in which a handful of American neoconservative psychopaths claim to determine the fate of countries.

Many still believe Washington’s lies, but increasingly the world sees Washington as the greatest threat to peace and life on earth. The claim that America is “exceptional and indispensable” is used to justify Washington’s right to dictate to other countries.

The casualties of Washington’s bombings are invariably civilians, and the deaths will produce more recruits for ISIS. Already there are calls for Washington to reintroduce “boots on the ground” in Iraq. Otherwise, Western civilization is doomed, and our heads will be cut off. The newly created propaganda of a “Russian threat” requires more NATO spending and more military bases on Russia’s borders. A “quick reaction force” is being created to respond to a nonexistent threat of a Russian invasion of the Baltics, Poland, and Europe.

Usually it takes the American public a year, or two, three, or four to realize that it has been deceived by lies and propaganda, but by that time the public has swallowed a new set of lies and propaganda and is all concerned about the latest “threat.” The American public seems incapable of understanding that just as the first, second, third, fourth, and fifth threat was a hoax, so is the sixth threat, and so will be the seventh, eighth, and ninth.

Moreover, none of these American military attacks on other countries has resulted in a better situation, as Vladimir Putin honestly states. Yet, the public and its representatives in Congress support each new military adventure despite the record of deception and failure.

Perhaps if Americans were taught their true history in place of idealistic fairy tales, they would be less gullible and less susceptible to government propaganda. I have recommended Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick’s The Untold History of the United States, Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States, and now I recommend Stephen Kinzer’s The Brothers, the story of the long rule of John Foster and Allen Dulles over the State Department and CIA and their demonization of reformist governments that they often succeeded in overthrowing. Kinzer’s history of the Dulles brothers’ plots to overthrow six governments provides insight into how Washington operates today.

In 1953 the Dulles brothers overthrew Iran’s elected leader, Mossadegh and imposed the Shah, thus poisoning American-Iranian relations through the present day. Americans might yet be led into a costly and pointless war with Iran, because of the Dulles brothers poisoning of relations in 1953.

The Dulles brothers overthrew Guatemala’s popular president Arbenz, because his land reform threatened the interest of the Dulles brothers’ Sullivan & Cromwell law firm’s United Fruit Company client. The brothers launched an amazing disinformation campaign depicting Arbenz as a dangerous communist who was a threat to Western civilization. The brothers enlisted dictators such as Somoza in Nicaragua and Batista in Cuba against Arbenz. The CIA organized air strikes and an invasion force. But nothing could happen until Arbenz’s strong support among the people in Guatemala could be shattered. The brothers arranged this through Cardinal Spellman, who enlisted Archbishop Rossell y Arellano. “A pastoral letter was read on April 9, 1954 in all Guatemalan churches.”

?A masterpiece of propaganda, the pastoral letter misrepresented Arbenz as a dangerous communist who was the enemy of all Guatemalans. False radio broadcasts produced a fake reality of freedom fighter victories and army defections. Arbenz asked the UN to send fact finders, but Washington prevented that from happening. American journalists, with the exception of James Reston, supported the lies. Washington threatened and bought off Guatemala’s senior military commanders, who forced Arbenz to resign. The CIA’s chosen and well paid “liberator,” Col. Castillo Armas, was installed as Arbenz’s successor.

We recently witnessed a similar operation in Honduras and Ukraine.

President Eisenhower thanked the CIA for averting “a Communist beachhead in our hemisphere,” and Secretary of State John Foster Dulles gave a national TV and radio address in which he declared that the events in Guatemala “expose the evil purpose of the Kremlin.” This despite the uncontested fact that the only outside power operating in Guatemala was the Dulles brothers.

What had really happened is that a democratic and reformist government was overthrown because it compensated United Fruit Company for the nationalization of the company’s fallow land at a value listed by the company on its tax returns. America’s leading law firm or perhaps more accurately, America’s foreign policy-maker, Sullivan & Cromwell, had no intention of permitting a democratic government to prevail over the interests of the law firm’s client, especially when senior partners of the firm controlled both overt and covert US foreign policy. The two brothers, whose family members were invested in the United Fruit Company, simply applied the resources of the CIA, State Department, and US media to the protection of their private interests.

The extraordinary gullibility of the American people, the corrupt American media, and the indoctrinated and impotent Congress allowed the Dulles brothers to succeed in overthrowing a democracy.

Keep in mind that this use of the US government in behalf of private interests occurred 60 years ago long before the corrupt Clinton, George W. Bush, and Obama regimes. And no doubt in earlier times as well, as General Smedley Butler has attested.

The Dulles brothers next intended victim was Ho Chi Minh. Ho, a nationalist leader, asked for America’s help in freeing Vietnam from French colonial rule. But John Foster Dulles, a self-righteous anti-communist, miscast Ho as a Communist Threat who was springing the domino theory on the Western innocents. Nationalism and anti-colonialism, Foster declared, were merely a cloak for communist subversion.

Paul Kattenburg, the State Department desk officer for Vietnam suggested that instead of war, the US should give Ho $500 million in reconstruction aid to rebuild the country from war and French misrule, which would free Ho from dependence on Russian and Chinese support, and, thereby, influence. Ho appealed to Washington several times, but the demonic inflexibility of the Dulles brothers prevented any sensible response. Instead, the hysteria whipped-up over the “communist threat” by the Dulles brothers landed the United States in the long, costly, fiasco known as the Vietnam War.

Kattenburg later wrote that it was suicidal for the US “to cut out its eyes and ears, to castrate its analytic capacity, to shut itself off from the truth because of blind prejudice.” Unfortunately for Americans and the world, castrated analytic capacity is Washington’s strongest suit.

The Dulles brothers’ next targets were President Sukarno of Indonesia, Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba of Congo, and Fidel Castro. The plot against Castro was such a disastrous failure that it cost Allen Dulles his job. President Kennedy lost confidence in the agency and told his brother Bobby that after his reelection he was going to break the CIA into a thousand pieces. When President Kennedy removed Allen Dulles, the CIA understood the threat and struck first.

Warren Nutter, my Ph.D. dissertation chairman, later Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs, taught his students that for the US government to maintain the people’s trust, which democracy requires, the government’s policies must be affirmations of our principles and be openly communicated to the people. Hidden agendas, such as those of the Dulles brothers and the Clinton, Bush and Obama regimes, must rely on secrecy and manipulation and, thereby, arouse the distrust of the people. If Americans are too brainwashed to notice, many foreign nationals are not.

The US government’s secret agendas have cost Americans and many peoples in the world tremendously. Essentially, the Dulles brothers created the Cold War with their secret agendas and anti-communist hysteria. Secret agendas committed Americans to long, costly, and unnecessary wars in Vietnam and the Middle East. Secret CIA and military agendas intending regime change in Cuba were blocked by President John F. Kennedy and resulted in the assassination of a president, who, for all his faults, was likely to have ended the Cold War twenty years before Ronald Reagan seized the opportunity.

Secret agendas have prevailed for so long that the American people themselves are now corrupted. As the saying goes, “a fish rots from the head.” The rot in Washington now permeates the country.

It is a rot that threatens the entire world.

Paul Craig Roberts



49 Comments on "A Dire Future"

  1. Hello on Tue, 10th May 2016 6:10 am 

    Planty will be happy with this article. *smile*

  2. shortonoil on Tue, 10th May 2016 6:55 am 

    “The greatest threat to the world is Washington’s insistence on its hegemony.”

    A hegemony that can not be maintained without oil. It is passing away as the last few barrels that can power the world are now being pumped from the earth. This animal of terror is finding itself corned; caught in a trap of nature’s design from which it can not escape. As it dies, its beck and talons will be buried deep into the flesh of mankind. We either kill it now, or it will take us to our end in its death throes.

  3. mike on Tue, 10th May 2016 9:19 am 

    I read as far as “Obama went on to become one of the most vicious war criminals in world history” and realised this writer was a nutter. The name Paul Craig Roberts means nothing on this the European side of the Atlantic, so could some better informed North American, whether from the US or from Canada, please let us know a little more about this wally. Do people take his ravings seriously,or is he merely an ignored clown spouting drivel from the sidelines.

  4. GregT on Tue, 10th May 2016 10:03 am 

    Perhaps if Americans were taught their true history in place of idealistic fairy tales, they would be less gullible and less susceptible to government propaganda.

    Sad, but true. The indoctrination runs so deep that many can no longer even see the light of day. The empire is in it’s dying days, and it is not going to go peacefully. It is going to die kicking and screaming. Expect War.

  5. GregT on Tue, 10th May 2016 10:05 am 

    “might want to include China”

    Bloomberg. The epitome of corporately controlled US MSM propaganda.

  6. Davy on Tue, 10th May 2016 10:08 am 

    Mike, he is an extremist as bad as the neocons he raves against. He is tapping into populist group think that is vicious anti-American these days. This board is an ideal example of these extremes and represent a taste of what is wrong with this world.

  7. makati1 on Tue, 10th May 2016 10:10 am 

    Mike, perhaps the ‘nutter’ is you? Denial of history is the first step to Nazism or worse. Killing the messenger doesn’t change the message. Obama is the biggest killer/war monger since … well, maybe Genghis Kahn.

    The only one who may surpass his record is Billary, if she is not indited for all of her treasonous activities under Obama and TPTB takes out Trump by a bullet so she can win. The brainwashing in America is the best in the world. You are a perfect example of it’s success.

  8. GregT on Tue, 10th May 2016 10:13 am 

    “please let us know a little more about this wally.”

    “Dr. Roberts has held academic appointments at Virginia Tech, Tulane University, University of New Mexico, Stanford University where he was Senior Research Fellow in the Hoover Institution, George Mason University where he had a joint appointment as professor of economics and professor of business administration, and Georgetown University where he held the William E. Simon Chair in Political Economy in the Center for Strategic and International Studies.”

    “He has contributed chapters to numerous books and has published many articles in journals of scholarship, including the Journal of Political Economy, Oxford Economic Papers, Journal of Law and Economics, Studies in Banking and Finance, Journal of Monetary Economics, Public Choice, Classica et Mediaevalia, Ethics, Slavic Review, Soviet Studies, Cardoza Law Review, Rivista de Political Economica, and Zeitschrift fur Wirtschafspolitik. He has entries in the McGraw-Hill Encyclopedia of Economics and the New Palgrave Dictionary of Money and Finance.”

    “He has contributed to Commentary, The Public Interest, The National Interest, Policy Review, National Review, The Independent Review, Harper’s, the New York Times, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, Fortune, London Times, The Financial Times, TLS, The Spectator, The International Economy, Il Sole 24 Ore, Le Figaro, Liberation, and the Nihon Keizai Shimbun. He has testified before committees of Congress on 30 occasions.”

    “Dr. Roberts was associate editor and columnist for The Wall Street Journal and columnist for Business Week and the Scripps Howard News Service. He was a nationally syndicated columnist for Creators Syndicate in Los Angeles. In 1992 he received the Warren Brookes Award for Excellence in Journalism. In 1993 the Forbes Media Guide ranked him as one of the top seven journalists in the United States.”

    “President Reagan appointed Dr. Roberts Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and he was confirmed in office by the U.S. Senate. From 1975 to 1978, Dr. Roberts served on the congressional staff where he drafted the Kemp-Roth bill and played a leading role in developing bipartisan support for a supply-side economic policy. After leaving the Treasury, he served as a consultant to the U.S. Department of Defense and the U.S. Department of Commerce.”

    “Dr. Roberts was awarded the Treasury Department’s Meritorious Service Award for “his outstanding contributions to the formulation of United States economic policy.”

    “He is listed in Who’s Who in America and Who’s Who in the World.”

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/pages/about-paul-craig-roberts/

    Is that enough “more about this wally” for you?

  9. makati1 on Tue, 10th May 2016 10:21 am 

    GregT, those who don’t like the message think that by killing the messenger, the message will change or go away. Dr Roberts is the most qualified person to see behind the curtain of anyone I can think of. He has nothing to gain by telling the truth as he sees it. He is untouchable by TPTB because of that long string of yard-goods/experience and his many connections.

    If you consider the IQ of those who try to put him down, it becomes obvious who is the most intelligent, and it is NOT the deniers. LOL

  10. Davy on Tue, 10th May 2016 10:46 am 

    People like Dr. Roberts are the reason the world is so screwed up. Acedemics gone haywire. This phenomenon is true everywhere we look. We see people with fancy titles and acomplishments pushing crazy and destructive ideas. Extremist love it because they can reference these acedemics and say “See” when the reality is this referencing is just conformational bias for their extreme agendas. It is not that these academics are lying Per say. The lie is in the presentation of the facts in a tone that is biased and extreme. In this respect it is a lie because they take the truth and repackage it as an agenda to sell. It is so often the case that these individuals are lining their pockets with readership following. Dr Craig makes me sick as anyone who follows him does. Pathetic people.

  11. Apneaman on Tue, 10th May 2016 10:50 am 

    I love Dr Craig. He my hero.

  12. Sissyfuss on Tue, 10th May 2016 10:58 am 

    So the machinations surrounding the United Fruit Company’s underhanded takeover in Guatamala now gives birth to the exceptionally underhanded corporate takeover of sovereignty of nations via TTP and the other malignant unFREE trade agreements circling our injured orb. Same as it ever was.

  13. shortonoil on Tue, 10th May 2016 11:14 am 

    “Is that enough “more about this wally” for you?”

    Anyone who hasn’t hear of Paul Craig Roberts has obviously spent the the last century in a cave, and spent their time painting little stick figures on the wall.

  14. GregT on Tue, 10th May 2016 11:14 am 

    If there were more patriots like Dr. Roberts, the US government would still be “by the people for the people”, as opposed to a fascist corpocracy hell bent on ruling the entire world, at any cost. Up to and including the destruction of the US constitution, liberty, freedom, justice, and the democratic process.

    What has gone haywire is unbridled greed, and the propaganda that the unwitting masses have fallen for hook, line, and sinker. The above article is factual, and the tone is being set by the US MIC. Not by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts. If more Americans would wake up and face reality there might be some hope in saving the once great nation that the founding fathers fought and died for. The main reason that will not happen, is because of the hopelessly indoctrinated like the writer three posts above. The people ultimately always get what they deserve.

  15. GregT on Tue, 10th May 2016 11:15 am 

    Sorry, now 4 posts above.

  16. Apneaman on Tue, 10th May 2016 11:29 am 

    Obama and crew are scum, but this particular troop of uncouth, sub human baboons is the lowest common denominator in the US by far.

    “Injurious to the American People” — Republicans to Receive a Well-Deserved Drubbing Over Decades of Climate Change Denial in 2016 Election

    “Who, after all, was the party of drill, baby, drill, fight to defend coal, attack the EPA, dismantle the Clean Water Act, kill the Clean Air Act? Who was it that fought practically every government support for wind, solar, and electric vehicles? Who was it that attacked every international climate agreement even before the signature ink was drying? Who endlessly harangued the IPCC? Who, again and again, attempted to de-fund NASA and NOAA climate science research initiatives? Who stymied a carbon tax, a gas tax, or any other incentive policy that would help people move away from carbon-based energy sources? Who brought snowballs into the Senate as ‘evidence’ that climate change was a ‘fraud,’ despite more objective proofs for human-caused global warming than for the theory of gravity itself?”

    https://robertscribbler.com/2016/05/10/injurious-to-the-american-people-republicans-to-receive-a-well-deserved-drubbing-over-decades-of-climate-change-denial-in-2016-election/

  17. Davy on Tue, 10th May 2016 11:40 am 

    What goes around comes around and extremist will reap what the sow. Multiple posters above are perfect examples of failed agendas as is Dr. dumbass. These poster expect you to be all in or out. This is not about all or nothing this is about identifying extremism on both sides. The US neocons are extremist but so is Dr dumbass. They belong together in their endless race to the bottom of human decency. This is fully the case on this board. If you don’t agree with the extremist here the gang pounces. That right there is a marker for extremism.

  18. Boat on Tue, 10th May 2016 11:52 am 

    “Kemp-Roth Tax Cut”

    This act slashed estate taxes and trimmed taxes paid by business corporations by $150 billion over a five-year period. Additionally the tax rates were indexed for inflation, though the indexing was delayed until 1985.

  19. Boat on Tue, 10th May 2016 12:00 pm 

    Roberts was a big player in the architect of voodoo economic policy. Lower taxes, to spur the economy and pile that debt up.

  20. Sissyfuss on Tue, 10th May 2016 12:04 pm 

    To me PCR’s occasional outburst of hyperbole can be excused. He is a former insider who became tired of being asphyxiated by the rank and fetid air of Empire.

  21. Boat on Tue, 10th May 2016 12:47 pm 

    Alevo, The Other Energy Storage Gigafactory, Begins To Stir

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterdetwiler/2016/05/10/alevo-the-other-energy-storage-giga-factory-begins-to-stir/#5134b27960e4

  22. Anonymous on Tue, 10th May 2016 1:06 pm 

    Dr Roberts is likely correct. He knows his mad-dog countrymen as well any anyone could. The uS will NOT be taking control Irans or Russia energy. Thus, those resources will be used to power the development of nations less and less disposed to being told that its the amerikan way, or the CIA-backed coup way.

    What does a war-based economy do when it cant compete, or cant direct the flow of the world’s resources in ways it deems fit? Well, it makes war of course. Its what war-based empires DO. Especially those in terminal decline. The uS ‘saved’ the old british empire after it failed to stop its own decline. Then the americans took over the british empire(for a time). Who will come along and save the amero\anglo-zionist empire when its day comes?

    A: No one. The americans will get the future they deserve. But, being the mad-dogs they are, will likely see the world in ruins rather than give up their stranglehold over it.

  23. JuanP on Tue, 10th May 2016 5:02 pm 

    What a great article. There is no doubt that the USA is one of the most violent, agressive, abusive, and criminal institutions to have existed in human history. Americans have sown murder, rape, theft, slavery, genocide, pain, iniquity, and suffering everywhere they go.

    I wish they would just take it out on each other and left the rest of us alone. Fuck the USA!

  24. sidzepp on Tue, 10th May 2016 5:33 pm 

    Juan P: I think we are doing a great enough job ourselves with the number of homicides that occur every year here!

  25. makati1 on Tue, 10th May 2016 6:13 pm 

    Anonymous, unfortunately for the rest of us, you are correct. Rome fell when it ran out of countries to plunder. It ran into stiff opposition in the north of what is now Europe and disintegrated from the corruption inside. Maybe more Americans should read about the rise and fall of that empire? Naw! Most Americans today cannot read and comprehend much above the 1st grade level. “Sally, see Spot run. Run Spot, run.”

  26. Anonymous on Tue, 10th May 2016 9:50 pm 

    While some similarities exist, the difference are too many to list.

    Arguably, Rome spread civilization, even if its actions themselves were largely conducted out of self-interest. The american empire does not spread civilization, if anything, it destroys it, or tries very hard to. The americans are the ultimate scorched earth empire. Rome did this on occasion as well of course, but for the most part, they knew borders could and would shift constantly and tried not to wreck territory they might occupy again in a few years.

    When Rome finally (fell), it just…kind of faded away. There was no zionist christo cabal in charge in Rome .There were just semi-literate bible-thumping ignoramuses living in the ruins of Rome stroking their horseshit bibles. There were no crazed elites issuing orders to salt the earth or poison the wells on the idea its better to have no world at all, than to have one w/o Rome in charge. It just…ceased to be and world kept on turning.

    With the genocidal americant empire however…….it is and will be, a different story altogether.

  27. Harquebus on Tue, 10th May 2016 11:17 pm 

    Paul Craig Roberts is on my reading list.
    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org

    So is this bloke.
    http://johnpilger.com/

  28. GregT on Wed, 11th May 2016 12:24 am 

    “Roberts was a big player in the architect of voodoo economic policy. Lower taxes, to spur the economy and pile that debt up.”

    “Critics claim that the tax cuts worsened the deficits in the budget of the United States government. Reagan supporters credit them with helping the 1980s economic expansion that eventually lowered the deficits. After peaking in 1986 at $221 billion the deficit fell to $152 billion by 1989.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Recovery_Tax_Act_of_1981

  29. Truth Has A Liberal Bias on Wed, 11th May 2016 12:35 am 

    Paul Craig Roberts is batshit insane. He’s basically your average old white guy going off about hating what his country has become. Granted ‘Merika is a shithole full of retards but that’s what happens when you rig the game and spend several decades in first place. People who win at a rigged game get stupid, fat and lazy.

  30. GregT on Wed, 11th May 2016 12:53 am 

    “He’s basically your average old white guy going off about hating what his country has become.”

    And that would be your definition of “batshit insane” THALB? I would consider those not going off to be certifiably fucking nuts.

  31. derhundistlos on Wed, 11th May 2016 1:13 am 

    So why does JuanP reside in South Florida? Thou dost protest too much.

  32. makati1 on Wed, 11th May 2016 2:45 am 

    GregT, I would concur with your reasoning. Age gives perspective along with wrinkles and aches. That it took me about 60 years to finally see behind the curtain of lies and to know America for what it really is, is the sad part.

    A few of you have seen it early in your lives through the internet’s ability to bring truth through the US MSM Iron Curtain by some like Dr Roberts. THAT is the good thing about the internet. If you rely on the US news sources, you will never see the truth, only lies.

    Many don’t like Dr Roberts because he makes them doubt what they perceive as the real world. Or they already know deep down what a shit hole the US is and was all along, and don’t like to be reminded. They want to live in the fairy land of a make believe America, fed to them daily by the Imperial Department of Propaganda for as long as possible.

    Me, I prefer living in the real world, no matter how difficult that is. I prefer to make my own decisions based on my own perception of what is happening that will affect my life and welfare. I have accepted death. That is the first thing you need to do to free yourself from fear. Then you need to get as far out of the system as is possible. You cannot do that if you are in debt to that same system.

    Having ZERO debt is something most Americans will never know until it is too late, but you are not free if you owe the bank/government. I have had little unnecessary debt in my life, thanks to grand parents that raised their families during the great Depression and passed those lessons on to me by example. They never had debt of any kind. They paid cash for everything they owned including a small home. When my grandmother died at age 85, in the 80s, she still had several thousand dollars in her savings account. Not a lot, but it was proof of their lifestyle. They lived very happy lives with little more than necessities.

    I am now as free of the system as I choose to be. ZERO debt. No taxable income. I take my SS every month as a debt they owe to me, not vice-versa. It adds to my preps constantly. I still have my US passport because it is a universal necessity. I just renewed it so I may not live long enough to have to renew it again. Or, if I do live long enough, (10 more years) the whole system may have collapsed, never to arise again, and I will not need it no matter how long I live. I still retain a few bank accounts to access that income. They are free for the ‘elderly’ so that is not an expense.

    I have not opted out of living. I HAVE opted out of living in America. It is a 3rd world country pretending to be 1st world. It is living a lie. Not me.

  33. JuanP on Wed, 11th May 2016 7:13 am 

    Derhund, There is only one force in the whole universe that can keep me in the USA, and that is my love for my wife who wants to stay here for now and retire later in Uruguay. I don’t blame her. She is a more normal person, and her family, friends, and I have protected her from the evil in this world, so she maintains a level of innocence that I lost in kindergarten.

    I hope you experience in this life a love like that, but I know how rare what I have is.

  34. JuanP on Wed, 11th May 2016 7:22 am 

    Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is one of the very few decent Americans left, and all the delusional American exceptionalists hate his guts because he tells the truth as it is in a very smart and educated way qhich is very hard to refute.

    I have something to say to Davy and his little retarded denialist and exceptionalist minions. Why don’t you dispute the man’s arguments and try to prove him wrong instead of insulting him? While this is a rhetorical question, I will answer it, nevertheless, for the retards and denialists. You CAN’T win an argument against PCR because he is telling the truth and he is smarter, better educated, more knowledgeable, and more experienced than you are.

    Every word PCR writes is a bitch slap in every denialist’s face. Does it hurt too much, Davy? Pussy! Face the truth! Be a man! Coward!

  35. Davy on Wed, 11th May 2016 8:23 am 

    Juan, Dr. Dumbass speaks for himself. Like you he is an extremist: Unlike you he has readership that generates him income. That makes him enveloped by his extremist sheeples of which you are one. He is completely corupted by power, money, and his self-delusional stupid list of acedemic titles. The power part is his large sheepish following that makes him feel like a leader.

    I am not arguing the merits of some of his facts. Facts are facts. I have a problem with the packaging and the tone. He has an ignorant vocabulary that extremist here like you and 20 something Anonymous from Toronto emulate. His entire intellectual view is distorted and rabidly anti-Americanism. There is no balance and no alternative just the hard hitting shit you dumbass anti-Americans spew daily. It’s called mental illness and reminds me of the Nazi movement. Pathetic people with misplaced passions. If you are so worried about defending him have him come on our board as a guest for questions and answers.

    I love how you justify your person-non-grata status as a resident alien who is a terrorist in waiting. I bet NSA has you listed. You are a scumbag South American who is afraid to go back to Uruguay. IMA a country ranked near the bottom of the happiness list. Instead you chose to stay here peddling high end real estate in Miami Beach and playing in the Biscane Bay with your other South American 1%er brats. Go home Juan or better yet move to Honcouver with the other anti-American brats.

  36. GregT on Wed, 11th May 2016 9:41 am 

    “It’s called mental illness and reminds me of the Nazi movement.”

    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

    – Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda.

  37. GregT on Wed, 11th May 2016 9:47 am 

    “I love how you justify your person-non-grata status as a resident alien who is a terrorist in waiting.”

    The “War On Terrorism™” is the latest in a decades long string of repetitive lies Davy.

  38. Davy on Wed, 11th May 2016 10:11 am 

    Right Greg, maybe you extremist Canadians need to wake up to your own war on others who you mistakenly think are inferior to you. Talk about a fucked up nation of constant hate pushers. Canada is off the charts.

  39. GregT on Wed, 11th May 2016 10:19 am 

    I don’t support war or murder Davy, and I will be among the first to stand up against both. No matter what group of individuals are engaged in either. Whether it would be your owners, or mine, it makes no difference to me.

  40. Davy on Wed, 11th May 2016 10:33 am 

    Greg, the ends justify the means for you. If you could quietly and in a hidden way give the word for bad things to happen to the US to achieve your extremist goals you would do it. You make this big effort to show yourself as a moderate and not into extremism but you are one of the Candians we have to watch out for. You are the kind that smiles and shakes our hand and when we turn our back you stab us. At least the other Canadian extremist on this board just come out and say it like it is. They want us dead and gone and the sooner the better. That is a know quantity.

  41. GregT on Wed, 11th May 2016 10:39 am 

    Keep making shit up Davy, if it makes you feel better. Your emotional ramblings have no basis in reality. Pure delusion, bordering on paranoia. Get help.

  42. Davy on Wed, 11th May 2016 11:07 am 

    Greg, we talk about this daily. Why not leave me alone? You can’t because you got this thing about being a prick and spanking people. You get what you give. There is no way I am going to show you respect until you earn it. Now can we get back to the issues or do you and Juan want to continue with your bad behavior?

  43. GregT on Wed, 11th May 2016 8:13 pm 

    Davy,

    I am not at all concerned with gaining respect from somebody such as yourself who continually puts words into my mouth. If you wish to gain respect from many others here on this board, stop with the constant BS.

  44. Davy on Wed, 11th May 2016 8:34 pm 

    Greg stop with the constant BS and I will stop. Can you understand something that simple? I stop you stop. I get tired of our conversations. You are like a turd that won’t flush.

  45. makati1 on Wed, 11th May 2016 10:19 pm 

    GregT, he won’t stop ever. He can’t. I stopped reading his bullshit and replying to it long ago, but I notice through your and other’s comments that he is still addressing me as if I were replying and it mattered. It doesn’t.

    I have more respect for a pig than I do for a sick redneck wannabee in the hills of Missouri. A pig is smarter and more open-minded. That 1%er indoctrination is very good. He cannot seem to overcome it. Not intelligent enough? Or just “pig-headed”? LMAO

    Get ready for the redneck’s comeback, not that I will notice or read it. ^_^

  46. GregT on Wed, 11th May 2016 10:51 pm 

    Mak, I’ve come to the conclusion that the guy is a complete whack job, with serious anger management issues.

  47. makati1 on Wed, 11th May 2016 11:54 pm 

    GregT, that is why I moved on to more intelligent and open minded people like yourself. I doubt he has any real friends and his family is probably too reliant on him to leave. Too bad for them. Money cannot buy happiness, but it sure can destroy you and yours if you let it.

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