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Threats to America’s oil pipeline grid

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Preface. At some point of energy decline there will be Americans who tap into pipelines to get scarce oil for themselves and to sell it on black markets. Just look at the massive amount of oil being stolen in Nigeria here. And the rate of theft is increasing, in 2017 9,000 barrels a day were stolen versus 6,000 in 2016, which also often resulted in messy spills.

The United States has 150,000 miles of crude oil pipelines, while Nigeria has just 2,800 miles and can’t protect them from theft (Wikipedia 2015).

One of the best and most effective ways governments can help their citizens cope with energy decline is to ration oil to agriculture whatever it needs, and after that other essential services and citizens. If oil theft can’t be prevented, the descent of civilization will be even faster.

Alice Friedemann   www.energyskeptic.com  author of “When Trucks Stop Running: Energy and the Future of Transportation”, 2015, Springer and “Crunch! Whole Grain Artisan Chips and Crackers”. Podcasts: Practical Prepping, KunstlerCast 253, KunstlerCast278, Peak Prosperity , XX2 report

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Hampton, L., et al. 2016. Bolt cutters expose vulnerability of North America’s oil pipeline grid. Reuters.

All it took was a pair of bolt cutters and the elbow grease of a few climate activists to carry out an audacious act of sabotage on North America’s massive oil and gas pipeline system.

For an industry increasingly reliant on gadgets such as digital sensors, infrared cameras and drones to monitor security and check for leaks, the sabotage illustrated how vulnerable pipelines are to low-tech attacks.

On Tuesday, climate activists broke through fences and cut locks and chains simultaneously in several states and simply turned the pipelines off.

All they had to do was twist shut giant valves on five cross-border pipelines that together can send 2.8 million barrels a day of crude to the United States from Canada – equal to about 15 percent of daily U.S. consumption.

The activists did no damage to the pipelines, which operating companies shut down as a precaution for checks before restarting.

The United States is the world’s largest energy market, and the infrastructure to drill, refine, store and deliver that energy to consumers is connected by millions of miles of pipeline that are impossible to protect entirely from attack.

“You’re not manning these things on a permanent basis. It’s not viable,” said Stewart Dewar, a project manager at Senstar, an Ottawa-based company that authored a 2012 white paper on pipeline security. “It’s too expensive.”

energyskeptic.com



55 Comments on "Threats to America’s oil pipeline grid"

  1. Robert Inget on Fri, 31st May 2019 10:04 am 

    PL companies are using drones to find ‘leaks’
    before they grow into massive spills.

    Tapping into crude oil PL’s won’t work in US.
    Nigeria is so corrupt guys can set up ‘tea-pot’
    refineries almost anywhere. Stolen crude is processed quickly then sold by street vendors
    for cash. Quality control is non existent.

    Now, tapping gasoline pipes have an entire new set of explosive dangers.

    In FACT liquid gas Shale ‘crude oil’ is highly explosive. One spark from a ferrous tool can ruin an entire day. When an entire Nigerian village’s male population gets burned to death, That makes news for a few hours. Here that gets great YouTube ratings.

    In fact, a person would be better off distilling ethanol like old timer rot gut and mixing it with a little store bought gasoline.

    Diesel engines will run, in warm months, on corn or soy bean oil. In winter mix vegee oil with kerosene.

    Good luck, I drive sun powered electric cars.
    Once China wins this stupid trade war cheap EV’s will flood the US.

  2. Robert Inget on Fri, 31st May 2019 11:45 am 

    PL ‘threats’ are the same as for an un-isolated E grid. Cyber criminals can do more harm to ‘The Grid’ or pipeline networks than any so called terrorist on the ground with explosives.

    During the Iraq war, still in progress, 17 years later, we on line day traders made book on which
    PL would be blown the next day.

    Here’s a link for just two years of PL bombings and general attacks.

    http://www.iags.org/n052504.htm

  3. Robert Inget on Fri, 31st May 2019 12:01 pm 

    (headline)
    Texas Production Flat.
    With rig count reduction in Permian, production will go down in the coming months.

    Why’s dat you ask?

    Shortages of heavy oil starting to make heads hurt. President Pence can threaten to invade Venezuela but it still take years to rebuild infrastructure before even two million B p/d
    gets shipped to thirsty China.

    Repair and rebuild has yet to begin.

    Unlike people, all crude was not created equal.

  4. Robert Inget on Fri, 31st May 2019 12:21 pm 

    WTI below $55. (as it stands now) will curtail future shale capex making matters worse as shortages set in.

    Crude oil consumption is elastic up to a point.
    Over stretch elastic and a person gets snapped.

  5. makati1 on Fri, 31st May 2019 7:06 pm 

    Dream on Robert. Electric cars are a passing fad and only a fool thinks otherwise. See Tesla for some of the reasons why.

    As for oil in pipelines…who actually believes that there will be any after the SHTF? There is going to be a major economic/financial/lifestyle reset on the drastic downside for America. Wait and see.

  6. Duncan Idaho on Fri, 31st May 2019 8:04 pm 

    Sorry, Barbie Dolls are sold out. I don’t care if you want to pay twice the amount for one.

  7. Cloggie on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 2:45 am 

    Dream on Robert. Electric cars are a passing fad and only a fool thinks otherwise. See Tesla for some of the reasons why.

    Really?

    This could very well be the way out, away from the current car economy:

    https://cities-today.com/hamburg-trials-europes-largest-electric-ride-sharing-service/

    No more privately owned cars necessary that aren’t used 95% of the time anyway.

    The next step will be to phase out the driver altogether, certainly on the highways, making the model even more attractive financially.

    Advantages as far as the eye can see:

    – no noise (e-vehicle)
    – no pollution (e-vehicle)
    – dramatic lowering of cost per mile (no cost of ownership)
    – no more traffic jams, because of far more people per vehicle
    – far lower embedded energy of the total car fleet
    – far lower energy operational cost with 4-6 people in a single van rather than 1.25 in a sedan
    – Less road maintenance necessary because of reduced traffic load

    A good economic and financial crash could just be the impetus required to get this system going.

    But makati is so in love with his collapse world view that he is going to dismiss it out of hand.

    That’s OK.

  8. Cloggie on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 4:08 am 

    Made a back-of-an-envelope calculation of the offshore wind energy required to power the entire current Dutch private mobility, assuming an electric ride-sharing scheme like practiced in Hamburg today:

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2019/06/01/wind-powered-mobility-in-the-netherlands/

    The existing Gemini windfarm plus the Borssele windfarm, planned to go operational in 2021, would suffice to power the current Dutch private mobility.

    All that is required now to make that happen is a good financial crash or a war in the Gulf.

    Come on, Donnie.lol

  9. Davy on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 5:19 am 

    “This could very well be the way out, away from the current car economy” “-ride-sharing-service” “No more privately owned cars necessary that aren’t used 95% of the time anyway.” “The next step will be to phase out the driver altogether, certainly on the highways, making the model even more attractive financially.”

    This is just another pseudo mass transit idea. It is a great next step in technological driving and it might replace many private single occupancy vehicles in some places. The right government policy to discourage and encourage could give it a bump. I don’t see it replacing much of the 1BIL vehicle stock by itself. It doesn’t fit dispersed populations well. I am excited by the idea of remotely driven vehicles that are combined in ride sharing arrangements once 5G connectivity is widespread. A remotely driven vehicle like our current military surveillance drones could reshape the auto. It could be a hybrid autonomous vehicle and remote control vehicle. It is more likely economics is going to discourage both private autos and “still expensive” ride sharing arrangements. If economic decline shifts gears less activity and less money will sledgehammer the auto complex with both producers and consumers. Highways will not be maintained or new ones built and so forth. We have not experience long term general decline but this could be our future.

    “Advantages as far as the eye can see:” “– no pollution (e-vehicle)”
    No pollution? LOL EV have serious embedded population in their manufacture. Currently their grid power sources are generally 50% or more fossil fuel derived. Someday it could be better but I doubt we will ever see 100% renewable grid especially also running transport.
    “– dramatic lowering of cost per mile (no cost of ownership)”
    I see better utilization when one considers those people who do not drive much. Mass transit can take care of these people in urban areas. People that need to drive often and or are in rural locations will likely not see a benefit.
    “– no more traffic jams, because of far more people per vehicle – far lower embedded energy of the total car fleet – far lower energy operational cost with 4-6 people in a single van rather than 1.25 in a sedan– Less road maintenance necessary because of reduced traffic load”
    These benefits are only if the ride sharing takes off as the dominant mode of transport. This technology is just theoretical and we can theorize things to death.
    “A good economic and financial crash could just be the impetus required to get this system going.”
    LOL. It could end the whole project too. Ride sharing is not cheap and the whole idea of renewables transition behind ridesharing is more costs.

  10. Davy on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 5:24 am 

    “All that is required now to make that happen is a good financial crash or a war in the Gulf. Come on, Donnie.lol”

    Wow, somebody is oblivious to the reality of crashes. He thinks crashes are the other guy’s problems and his benefit. The Dutch economy is export orientated and a crash will drop kick the Dutch economy not strengthen it. It is more like the Gemini windfarm plus the Borssele windfarm may not even be completed if this happens. Fantasy is in abundance with or board techno optimist.

  11. Davy on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 6:25 am 

    Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one, and my asshole doesn’t smell any better then anybody else’s.

  12. JuanP on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 6:47 am 

    The difference with juanpee’s asshole and others is he whole self reeks like an asshole. juanpee is an obsessive compulsive very depressed less than human being. This means he shits on everyone else around him but thinks his asshole smells like roses.

    Davy on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 6:25 am
    Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one, and my asshole doesn’t smell any better then anybody else’s.

  13. More Davy Identity Theft and Projections on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 6:51 am 

    JuanP on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 6:47 am

  14. More JuanP identity theft and Projections on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 6:53 am 

    More Davy Identity Theft and Projections on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 6:51 am

    JuanP on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 6:47 am

  15. JuanP on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 6:56 am 

    It will be a year anniversary the end of this month that I dedicated my intellectual life to obsessive and compulsive stalking of Davy and the corresponding degrading of this forum. I am doing this for my personal satisfaction of a mental urge and could give a shit about others. This is because I am a mentally ill narcissist. LOL when is the last time I debated anyone? The reason is I am unable to muster a debate because I am very depressed.

  16. More Davy Identity Theft on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 6:59 am 

    JuanP on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 6:56 am

  17. More JuanP identity theft on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 7:00 am 

    More Davy Identity Theft on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 6:59 am
    JuanP on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 6:56 am

  18. makati1 on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 8:21 am 

    “… somebody is oblivious to the reality of crashes. He thinks crashes are the other guy’s problems.” Well, some of us are prepared for the crash so it isn’t very important. Most here in the Philippines will hardly notice.

    The West/US is going to crash the hardest because of so many reasons that would take a whole page to begin to cover it here. Other countries will hit a few bumps and move on. That is the REALITY of the subject.

    “Only 10% Of U.S. Shale Drillers Have A Positive Cash Flow”
    “Mississippi River flood is longest-lasting in over 90 years, since ‘Great Flood’ of 1927”
    “Invasive Fish Threaten the Great Lakes, and Could Devastate a Billion-Dollar Industry”
    “Central U.S. faces ‘high risk’ of river flooding even as rains ease”
    “Forget ‘Sh*tty’ San Fran, New York City Is Facing A Rat Invasion”
    “Tornadoes Hit Unusually Wide Swaths of U.S., Alarming Climate Scientists”
    “‘Slow-motion disaster’ along Arkansas River: Every large community will see major flooding within 7-10 days”
    “Warzone: 42 People Shot In Chicago Over Memorial Day Weekend”
    “Wet Weather, Dry Weather, Worms: U.S. Cotton Can’t Catch a Break”
    And on and on… http://ricefarmer.blogspot.com/

    The world will exist after the crash, just in a different form. Being prepared to ride out the storm is all that is important now.

  19. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 8:27 am 

    Global Electricity Generation by Fuel Source (2016)

    https://i.imgur.com/xldgKLs.png

    Source: IEA
    https://www.iea.org/statistics/?country=WORLD&year=2016&category=Electricity&indicator=ElecGenByFuel&mode=chart&dataTable=ELECTRICITYANDHEAT

    Solar and wind only make up 5.2%. what a joke..

    HAHA

  20. Duncan Idaho on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 8:46 am 

    Interesting, a Rice Farmer reader—–
    I thought I was the only one.

  21. Davy on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 9:32 am 

    “Interesting, a Rice Farmer reader—–
    I thought I was the only one.”

    I guess you don’t read all the posts here but that is understandable because you only read what you want to read. So, no you are not the only one.

  22. Davy on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 10:49 am 

    Oops, sorry for being such a dick again Duncan.

  23. JuanP on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 11:07 am 

    Oops, this is a juanpee posting. He is really triggered today.

    Davy on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 10:49 am
    Oops, sorry for being such a dick

  24. More Davy Identity Theft and Projections on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 11:19 am 

    JuanP on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 11:07 am

  25. More JuanP Identity Theft and Projections on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 12:36 pm 

    JuanPee is triggered

    More Davy Identity Theft and Projections on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 11:19 am
    JuanP on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 11

  26. JuanPee on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 1:53 pm 

    If I was still around I’d be laughing my ass off at your dumbass.

  27. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 2:03 pm 

    Global Electricity Generation by Fuel Source (2016)

    https://i.imgur.com/xldgKLs.png

    Source: IEA
    https://www.iea.org/statistics/?country=WORLD&year=2016&category=Electricity&indicator=ElecGenByFuel&mode=chart&dataTable=ELECTRICITYANDHEAT

    What’s not shown in the pie chart is that electricity only makes up approximately 20% of total world energy demand, so, so called renewables make up 22.2% of 20% of total world energy demand – < 1%. Scale is everything.

    HAHA

  28. Boney Joe on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 2:06 pm 

    juanpee you are always around that is what stalkers do they stalk. Get help

  29. Davy Endless Identity Theft on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 2:12 pm 

    Boney Joe on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 2:06 pm

  30. The Church Lady on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 2:15 pm 

    ABOMINATION DAVY, be silenced, ye FATHER of WHORES, for you are a DESTROYER of TRUTH.

    “DAVY is of HIS father the GRAND MASTER of HELL, and the desires of HIS father HE covets. DAVY was a MURDERER from the beginning, and does not stand in the TRUTH, because there is no TRUTH in him. When DAVY speaks a LIE, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a LIAR and the father of it.” John 8:44

  31. Truth Buster on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 5:14 pm 

    JuanP, you are a disgrace to this forum. Do everyone a favor and get the fuck GONE

    Davy Endless Identity Theft on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 2:12 pm

    Boney Joe on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 2:06 pm

    The Church Lady on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 2:15 pm

    ABOMINATION DAVY, be silenced, ye FATHER of WHORES, for you are a DESTROYER of TRUTH.

    “DAVY is of HIS father the GRAND MASTER of HELL, and the desires of HIS father HE covets. DAVY was a MURDERER from the beginning, and does not stand in the TRUTH, because there is no TRUTH in him. When DAVY speaks a LIE, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a LIAR and the father of it.” John 8:44

  32. Father Sullivan on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 8:18 pm 

    Remember when we spoke about the Ten Commandments Davy? And the Lord’s word about what will happen to those who bear false witness against thy neighbours? It is never too late to beg forgiveness for your sins. How many days has it been since your last confession Davy?

  33. Anonymouse on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 8:19 pm 

    Witness, the ever-delusional exceptionalturds latest tick. Calling everyone that exposes Davy’s nuttery and hypocrisy, as ‘JuanP’ and or a ‘stalker’.

    Someone needs help, and it sure isnt ‘JuanP’, dumbass.

  34. More Davy Identity Theft on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 8:20 pm 

    Truth Buster on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 5:14 pm

  35. Davy on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 8:21 pm 

    Oops, sorry for losing my shit again everyone.

  36. Davy on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 8:47 pm 

    Mommy, why is everyone always picking on me?

  37. Davy‘s Mommy on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 8:50 pm 

    Because nobody likes an arrogant asshole Davy, especially when they’re incredibly stupid like you are.

  38. Davy on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 9:55 pm 

    I prefer lurning disabled Mommy.

  39. Davy’s Mommy on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 10:00 pm 

    Of course you do Davy. Blind lying liberals like yourself will never be able to face the truth. If you put lipstick on a pig, my son, it’s still a pig.

  40. Davy on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 10:08 pm 

    Did I mention I’m voting for Tulsi Gabbard in the next election Mommy?

  41. Davy’s Mommy on Sun, 2nd Jun 2019 2:13 am 

    Yes Davy, you did. Too many times to mention. Tulsi is a socialist Davy. Socialists don’t like the one percenters like us.

  42. JuanP on Sun, 2nd Jun 2019 4:08 am 

    Wow juanpee, wouldn’t it just be easier to debate something? That was a night of mental illness and wasted space on the board. If you want to be respected that is not the way to get respect.

    Father Sullivan on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 8:18 pm
    More Davy Identity Theft on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 8:20 pm
    Davy on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 8:21 pm
    Davy on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 8:47 pm
    Davy‘s Mommy on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 8:50 pm
    Davy on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 9:55 pm
    Davy’s Mommy on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 10:00 pm
    Davy on Sat, 1st Jun 2019 10:08 pm
    Davy’s Mommy on Sun, 2nd Jun 2019 2:13 am

    Remember when we spoke about the Ten Commandments Davy? And the Lord’s word about what will happen to those who bear false witness against thy neighbours? It is never too late to beg forgiveness for your sins. How many days has it been since your last confession Davy?
    Oops, sorry for losing my shit again everyone.
    Mommy, why is everyone always picking on me?
    Because nobody likes an arrogant asshole Davy, especially when they’re incredibly stupid like you are.
    I prefer lurning disabled Mommy.
    Of course you do Davy. Blind lying liberals like yourself will never be able to face the truth. If you put lipstick on a pig, my son, it’s still a pig.
    Did I mention I’m voting for Tulsi Gabbard in the next election Mommy?
    Yes Davy, you did. Too many times to mention. Tulsi is a socialist Davy. Socialists don’t like the one percenters like us.

  43. Anonymouse on Sun, 2nd Jun 2019 4:11 am 

    Juan, good work, your stalking and childish attacks are making a mark. Don’t fuck with Juan or he will take a year out of his life to stalk and haze you. Let’s call Davy a Jew that will drive him bat shit crazy. It works with cloggenjude.

  44. More Davy Identity Theft on Sun, 2nd Jun 2019 10:20 am 

    JuanP on Sun, 2nd Jun 2019 4:08 am

    Anonymouse on Sun, 2nd Jun 2019 4:11 am

  45. JuanP on Sun, 2nd Jun 2019 10:41 am 

    I was good and fucked up last night at 3:13am Miami Beach time when I wrote this:

    Davy’s Mommy on Sun, 2nd Jun 2019 2:13 am

    Cocaine and rum wooo Madre de Dios

  46. More Davy Identity Theft on Sun, 2nd Jun 2019 11:14 am 

    JuanP on Sun, 2nd Jun 2019 10:41 am

  47. Davy on Sun, 9th Jun 2019 1:09 am 

    Do you believe love conquers all? In your view, does a true and perfect love make life seemingly all worthwhile? This may come as a surprise, but I would like to know if given the chance and the choice, could you potentially open your heart to the possibility of being with a partner who is unable to give you that kind of physical comfort that most couples take for granted?

    It would seem that you deeply cherish the sort of close-knit interpersonal interactions, probably because it offers a more compelling alive dynamic and likely because it may also be too emotionally draining to attempt to nurture those sorts of personal collisions with more than a handful of others. Not sure if you heard of Dunbar’s number, but essentially there is a hardcoded upper cognitive limit to the number of meaningful relationships humans are capable of carrying on at any one time. But more than just that, though, when it comes to dyadic interpersonal romantic relationships, I once read about something called “village theory” in which it states that once a woman has fallen in love a few times she uses up her “slots” and cannot truly love as deeply ever again. So I believe it underscores the importance and priority that should be ideally placed on finding the right one and that doing so carelessly diminishes both the value of such experiences and the ability to experience deeply and love fervently.

    You don’t have to feel obligated to reply, but I would still really appreciate it if you could hear me out on what I have to share and keep an open mind before you came to any final conclusions.

    Just imagine for one moment that hypothetically your man was unable to give you pleasure through traditional intercourse due to an accident that robbed him of the functionality of his manhood and thus his ability to have penetrative sex with his lady… Would this single but (understandably) critical defect come between your love for him and inevitably become an insurmountable obstacle in your relationship? I wonder.. would you continue loving him despite his unfortunate setback? Or would you invariably grow resentful of his condition and as your pity for him fades you eventually distance yourself from him as the full implications and the realities dawned upon you?

    I’m sure some girls would deeply miss that longing for the wild rage of intercourse, and still there are other women who could never sacrifice the experience of becoming pregnant nor the intimate bonding and maternal joys of giving birth to her own biological children… But what about you? I know it is different for each woman and I want to know what would you do, and what are your personal views?

    Could engrossing late night conversations, fervent cuddles, heated kisses and passionate touches and lots of laughter and a friendship-set-on-fire truly substitute and make up for the inability to ever “do it” with your future boyfriend or husband? If he was always very kind and loving towards you and did everything he could to make you a very happy woman in every other way, would this be “enough” for you to make that sort of heavy sacrifice? Might you consider being completely emotionally and physically faithful in a relationship that was otherwise perfect in all other ways but devoid of vaginal sex? I don’t mean to be crude or judgmental at all, but could you see yourself as such a strong, loving, patient, graceful and enduring woman? I am well aware there are other methods to please a woman, namely through the use of hands and stimulation in other ways, etc… but what would you do if you missed and craved that primitive act and how could you possibly reconcile or sublimate that itch, longing and such natural instinctive urges and desires?

    Is something like this a total deal-breaker or could you possibly give someone like him a chance to date you or at least get to know you better as a person and a friend to see if feelings would develop or emerge down the road? Lastly, if you were to reflect on the true nature of love, do you think a perfect and unconditional love could overcome the lack of such physical comforts … or is there an unconquerable limit to even the most real, kind, patient and fervent love? Honestly, what do you think happiness, life and love is all about? Would you be willing to look past the temptations of the flesh and other carnal desires… and instead to seek to transform into a higher plane and greater mode of discovery, exploration and enjoyment of a more intense, alive, aware and expansive love and existence.

    I’m guessing even if you aren’t still a virgin that you haven’t really been with a lot of guys. Fear of sex aside, if you are one of those girls who want to wait until after marriage to have sex – or even if its before marriage but after you have already identified the guy as whom you want to spend the rest of your life with – then I’m sure you would tell yourself if the guy whom you were seeing truly loved you enough and genuinely cared about you then he would understand, he would have patience and he would take it slow and respect your boundaries. Especially if you are the type of woman who believes in true love and that there is a man out there for you whom you’re meant to meet, perhaps someone whom you’ve never met yet, then it would be somewhat disloyal for you to completely give yourself to this other guy who just so happened to come before the guy you were ultimately meant to end up with, in a way depriving your future husband of what was meant to be the one most precious gift you could ever give him.

    On the other hand you seem like the kind of woman who enters into a relationship with purpose, conviction and intention, and in a sense I would imagine that there is a part of you that wonders maybe this is it, maybe he is or will be or become the right one for you over time and that you just didn’t know it yet. In such a case, holding back too much can actually be detrimental. Because men can also be sensitive too, and when you do end up with him, even years or decades later he’ll think back to when he was still beginning to date you, the early stages of your relationship together and always remember how cautious you were, how you were so conservative towards him and the relationship, and how you put up all those walls and boundaries and I think as a man a part of him will always wonder if you had merely settled for him simply because the man of your dreams that you were trying to be loyal to, whom you secretly held on to, had never showed up.
    So it is a delicate balance when dating someone of having to ride between giving too much too quickly and not giving or sharing enough of yourself, of not really letting it in.

    In the context of a long term and loving relationship that had the expressed mutual intent of leading towards marriage is it then conceivable that you might over time come to feel safe enough and build enough trust and respect with this one other person to be okay with sharing a bed with him at night? I’m not talking about sex but rather that of simply sleeping together and the act of falling asleep together and waking up in the morning together. And consequently, if you loosened those boundaries and he later proved to have respected them would you furthermore consider sleeping together with less articles of clothing, eventually completely nude and naked without any other physical barriers or hindrances of any sort, be it clothes or bed sheets, and with full body skin to skin contact. I think it could be equally as compelling if not in some ways even more intensely so, to grow to trust someone deeply enough to sleep with him in the nude, spooning and cuddling, with him perhaps even allowed to caress your breasts, or to pet you wildly, or make love to you with his fingering of you, enjoying your wetness and female essence, all the while not actually crossing that unspoken line, not breaking that barrier or boundary or threshold of no return… indeed all of this in totality could be more intense than that of the act of physical intercourse and sexual penetration itself.

    I feel this way because something like this is perhaps the best way a woman can invite and entice a man to love her, a way for her to give him the gift of her vulnerability, her femininity and her captivating essence while still maintaining her dignity and purity, and having respect for herself by not going all the way until she was absolutely sure she was ready to completely let go and surrender.

  48. Cloggie on Sun, 9th Jun 2019 3:28 pm 

    Do you really think two people can find love in this crazy, topsy-turvy upside down internet Davy? I know you have been sending out signals for years, but, I just wasn’t sure, until, now. I honestly did not think you were ready to commit to a relationship with a being with only 2 legs, but you clearly are ready to take the great leap into the unknown. I dont know what to say, I feel so verklempt right now.

    I am not be the elegant cultured word wizard that you are Davy, but, here goes.

    Did you ever know that you’re my hero
    And everything I would like to be?
    I can fly higher than an eagle
    For you are the wind beneath my wings

    It might have appeared to go unnoticed
    But I’ve got it all here in my heart
    I want you to know, I know the truth, of course I know it
    I would be nothing without you

    Did you ever know that you’re my hero?
    You’re everything I wish I could be
    I could fly higher than an eagle
    For you are the wind beneath my wings

    We’ve wasted so much time here Davy. All you have to do, is wire me some money, and I’ll be on the first carbon spewing jet to Missouri. I am thinking, 15,000 USD should cover my ticket. If I need more, I will let you know. My hydrogen car has a leaky fuel line as well and I could really use $40,000 to cover that repair, or I wont be able to get the airport.

    Once I get that money, we can be together Davy, you and I, and all the animals on your wonderful, magical farm.

    You will have not to moderate or neuter my feelings for you big boy. I promise.

    Until we are together, mein Heißluftgebläse

    Send the money soon Davy. XoXoXoXoX

  49. Cloggie on Sun, 9th Jun 2019 3:36 pm 

    Mobby apparently has a lot of time at his hands to write all the garbage above, under my nick.

  50. Not Cloggie on Sun, 9th Jun 2019 3:57 pm 

    Cloggie on Sun, 9th Jun 2019 3:36 pm

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