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If you read Stephen Moore’s column, he noted how the consensus over oil is wrong. We’re not running out of oil. In fact, many have been saying we’re going to run out since the 1930s:
These stupid predictions of the end of oil have been going on for most of the last century. Just over 100 years ago, the U.S. Bureau of Mines estimated total future production at 6 billion barrels, yet we’ve produced more than 20times that amount. In 1939 the Department of the Interior predicted U.S. oil supplies would last 13 years. I could go on.
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The folks at the Institute for Energy Research recently published a study showing three data points: first, the government’s best estimate of how much oil we had in America 50 years ago. The second was how much U.S. oil has been drilled out of the ground since then. And the third is how many reserves there are now. Today we have twice as many reserves as we had in 1950. And we have already produced almost 10 times more oil than the government told us we had back then.
Moore added that technological advancements are increasing oil production. In fact, Kerry Jackson at Investors Business Daily wrote in November that these advances are going to almost triple the amount of fossil fuel resources if research and development continue. At the current rate, she wrote that 2.9 trillion barrels could expand to 4.8 trillion by 2050, which is “almost twice as much as the projected global demand.” And we also know that energy from these resources is guaranteed to keep economies running, growing, and thriving, compared to the wholly inadequate alternatives such as wind and solar that won’t be able to meet our energy needs.
Engineering and Technology Magazine reported this week that BP — the company that once wanted to be known as “Beyond Petroleum” rather than “British Petroleum” — is saying “the world is no longer at risk of running out of resources.”
“Thanks to investment into supercomputers, robotics and the use of chemicals to extract the maximum from available reservoirs, the accessible oil and gas reserves will almost double by 2050,” Engineering and Technology said.
A BP official told the magazine that “energy resources are plentiful. Concerns over running out of oil and gas have disappeared.”
Things are so good, in fact, that Engineering and Technology says “with the use of the innovative technologies, available fossil fuel resources could increase from the current 2.9 trillion barrels of oil equivalent to 4.8 trillion by 2050, which is almost twice as much as the projected global demand.” That number could even reach 7.5 trillion barrels if technology and exploration techniques advance even faster.
This information backs up the idea that Earth is actually an oil-producing machine. We call energy sources such as crude oil and natural gas fossil fuels based on the assumption that they are the products of decaying organisms, maybe even dinosaurs themselves. But the label is a misnomer. Research from the last decade found that hydrocarbons are synthesized abiotically.
81 Comments on "Thanks to technology, we’re not going to run out of oil"
onlooker on Sat, 2nd Jan 2016 4:51 pm
Wow where to start with this disingenuous opium. Basically, it is saying that oil is being produces in abundant quantities on a continual basis and that with modern technology we will be able to access all this new oil. First I would think most serious scientists deny this assertion. Yes oil is created in small quantities naturally by Earth but not abundantly and not in time periods relevant to current civilization. The other point I find revealing is no mention of the climate change implications of accessing and using all that extra oil. It is as if the author existed on some other planet where they did not have the problem of greenhouse gases warming the Earth. All in all, just another feel good article to satiate and comfort the masses.
JuanP on Sat, 2nd Jan 2016 4:52 pm
Is this supposed to be a joke? The website’s name is “hot air”
I think this BS is going to please the cornucopians living in denial to no end.
Apneaman on Sat, 2nd Jan 2016 4:54 pm
I don’t read Stephen Moore’s column (sounds like a tard) and there is NO “consensus over oil” (strawman). Anyone who reads oil sites, like this one, or hundreds of others can plainly see that there is no consensus regarding oil at all and never has been, nor will ever be. Even when the oil age ends there will be an infinite number of opinions as to why.
shortonoil on Sat, 2nd Jan 2016 5:29 pm
Sorry, I didn’t not save the links because it didn’t seem important enough to save. There has been a couple articles on this in the science media. The scientist who claims to have discovered this abiotically produced oil is said to have discovered 5 grams (?) at a hydrothermal vent some where along the Atlantic Ridge. It was something like a mile deep.
Maybe some one else can dig this up on the net? I’m not going to waste anymore time on this complete piece of trash.
Bob Owens on Sat, 2nd Jan 2016 5:35 pm
Yes, we need more oil! We don’t have enough cars, haven’t paved over enough of the planet, poisoned enough of our air and water, killed off enough of our wildlife, had enough wars. I could go on but the author of this article would never understand. For everyone else, it is way past time to take some action. Put on a sweater, turn the thermostat up, read a good book.
Newfie on Sat, 2nd Jan 2016 5:44 pm
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha… Hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee. Rolling on the floor laughing so hard I’m dying. Wou wou wou….
bug on Sat, 2nd Jan 2016 6:05 pm
For all of us here who gaffaw and explain how the above article is pure horsecrap, most and I would guess 95% of the US population believe it. Some that want to believe it will say to their Facebook friends about the article they have read saying oil is forever and technology again has saved us. Those people will then tell more and the hope goes on. yeah.
sidzepp on Sat, 2nd Jan 2016 6:48 pm
This has to be a relief for Oil Co. execs and Wall Street investment firms and the MSM that stoops over to serve their interests. At least when we ride to our oncoming Armageddon we can go their in comfort in our SUV’s because we have plenty of gas.
SilentRunning on Sat, 2nd Jan 2016 6:52 pm
We haven’t run out of oil yet; Therefore we will never run out of oil!!! Problem solved by denial!!!
curlyq3 on Sat, 2nd Jan 2016 7:20 pm
When the Macondo well blew up I found The Oil Drum and learned a lot about what we call Peak Oil … missed Rockman and his writing style so I followed him here … it was about a year after the Gulf disaster that Fukushima went into the ground … I studied nuclear for three years after that event … I have resolved to believe that life on this planet is in an extinction level event … it is likely all higher forms of life will not exist in a time frame of at most a century … what I have learned about regarding this belief I have I can not escape from … I find a camaraderie here … most of the regular people here likely realize we can not escape this fate … for all the people who choose not to learn of this fate it may be the greater good to allow them their ignorance … after all, we have our current good company to bounce our thoughts and feelings off of … when conditions really slide south we can only hope we are not witness to the apocalyptic suffering that will occur … I found a quiet isolated spot in Southern Utah … tribe here is homogeneous … most folks could not find us here if you gave them a map ! … smaller groups will make life more pleasant … well I have revealed myself more than I ever have here … thanks for spending so much time exchanging the good thoughts and feelings …
curlyq3
JuanP on Sat, 2nd Jan 2016 7:35 pm
Uruguay makes dramatic shift to nearly 95% electricity from clean energy, http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/dec/03/uruguay-makes-dramatic-shift-to-nearly-95-clean-energy
Thanks to Apnea I found this article which I had missed. Uruguayans can’t take any credit for this because we were just blessed by this natural gift. Most Uruguayans have no idea how lucky they are.
makati1 on Sat, 2nd Jan 2016 9:03 pm
curlyq3, I share your outlook on humanity’s extinction and most of the other life on the planet. While you found a place in the US, I moved to the Philippines and found friends and a place here that is similar.
When the SHTF, the small nearby town will be isolated like your tribe. There are exactly two roads into it, often closed by mud slides or washouts. No airport, rail, or other connection. Too far by boat from any other place in the Ps. 100+ miles from Manila over a mountain chain. Yet it has a population of mostly self-sufficient people who live off he land and sea. And, they are very friendly and respectful of age. I’m 71.
A good location choice, I believe. Good luck on your plans also.
jjhman on Sat, 2nd Jan 2016 9:04 pm
I took the time to look up Hot Air and, suprise, suprise, it is associated with the Koch brothers, Cato, API, etc.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Institute_for_Energy_Research
Apparently those assholes will support any nonsense that will advance their financial interests.
adonis on Sat, 2nd Jan 2016 10:01 pm
don’t worry guys the elites have got to have a plan to save some of humanities asses its called austerity or elimination of the middle classes and I for one am all for it better that then a violent extinction of the human race
rockman on Sat, 2nd Jan 2016 10:18 pm
Every covered the obviously goofy arguments. But I’ll go back the the biggest flaw with even the less rediculous predictions of future reserves: any number is meaningless (even one that many here might find realitic) if it also diesn’t include the price basis. Consider the great shale…and jt was a fantastic BOOM! lol. But would have seen the same increase if oil had stayed below $30/ bbl as it had for many prior years? Obviously not.
And the typical misdirection: PO has never and will never be about reserves: as we all know it’s about production rate. There might be X billions of bbls left to produce. But if they can’t be produced at a rate to sustain global economic stability it doesn’t matter how much proven reserves are in the ground.
But I do agree that we’ll never “run out of oil”: long after our species disappears there will still be billions of bbls of oil left in the earth. In fact in a few million years we may have even more oil as mankind’s hydrocsrbons are converted to a more practical phase. lol
rockman on Sat, 2nd Jan 2016 10:20 pm
adonis – We elites thank you for your support. lol.
makati1 on Sat, 2nd Jan 2016 11:26 pm
jjhman, I most always look up any source I am not familiar with. Most times, it leads right to the corporate elite, and sometimes it is impossible to find out as they don’t want you to know. Even the sites claiming to be donor supported usually have at least one corporate/billionaire ‘donor’ guiding their opinions.
geopressure on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 12:55 am
Sidzepp: “This has to be a relief for Oil Co. execs and Wall Street investment firms and the MSM that stoops over to serve their interests”.
The Mainstream Media has been doing everything but bending over to serve the interest of oil & gas companies – at least since wall street turned against oil in 2014…
Some of you guys are poorly educated on this subject matter…
Apneaman on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 12:58 am
geo, how did wall turn against oil in 2014? You make it sound like wall st is under some obligation to them. Some people are poorly educated about Capitalism.
Apneaman on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 1:00 am
Wall st – it’s all about friendship and loyalty.
geopressure on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 3:43 am
Apneaman, Oil & relates stocks began experiencing tremendous resistance in 2014… The same time that all Media Outlets started screaming “oil glut”… The same time that EIA’s numbers started deviating from reality & practically every big-name oil trader retired because their talent/skills were no longer relevant in a world where the EIA was no longer tells the truth…
This has all happened before… In 1986… As soon as the US Strategic Petroleum Reserve was built & full, it was used to manufacture a fake oil glut. The market turned against oil & gas. & the US Government/Companies went around the world raping 3rd world companies of their hydrocarbons in order to ensure that Supply>Demand – that oil prices were held down…
After George W Bush’s 2nd election, the US Government stopped aggressively holding the price of oil down… There were 9-10 years of free market activities where oil prices were allowed to be set according to the law of supply/demand… However, this all ended in March of 2014, when the US Government reversed their policy, the EIA stopped telling the truth, the DOE started dumping the contents of the SPR, manufacturing another artificial glut, & the market turned against crude…
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How can you not know this? The US Media will not tell you this – our government has done this before, they are very practiced & they know how to get rid of the leaks… Still, being a prominent poster at a website like this, someone should have taught you these things by now…
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This time around, the SPR is not large enough relative to global demand & 2016 is going to be a very interesting year?
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You don’t ask yourself why practically all refineries in 2nd & 3rd world countries have been shut down? It’s because the US is taking their fuel & trying their damnedest to refill the SPR as much as possible over the winter driving months… This warm weather is not helping though… 2016 will be a very interesting year for oil prices…
geopressure on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 3:54 am
Wall Street is under no obligation to Oil & Gas Companies & I did not imply that they were…
I said Wall Street Turned against Oil & Gas in early-mid 2014, and this is clearly evident from looking at the charts…
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Apneaman, have you seriously never asked yourself “where did all this excess supply suddenly spring forth from in 2014 so quickly that none of the analysts who are devoted to monitoring future oil supply saw it coming?” You never asked yourself that???
If the glut had come from real projects that analysts could follow & monitor then oil prices would have already been $75/BBL, before the crash started…
The Oil Glut came from the US SPR coupled with EIA Deception just as it did in 1986… This is why none of the analyst were able to see this new supply coming. This is why oil prices fell from $100/BBL & not $75/BBL. This is why all the noteworthy oil traders lost their asses & then retired in 2014…
Your Oil Glut is artificial – a fraud… A fraud that the mainstream media perpetuates in the interest of national security – All designed to keep the balance of power from tipping in Russia’s Favor…
Davy on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 4:52 am
Curly, thanks for checking in. I know southern Utah well and love it there. The people are so outdoor orientated and the land beautiful. One word of caution for your local is water and food in relation to doom and prep.
It can also be an advantage if you managed to find a rural location with low population with food and water potential. People will likely be leaving that area because of long term drought this is an advantage for those who stay and have sustainability. Population is the biggest handicap for any local once a sustainable amount has been breached.
I have been on this board for close to 3 years and the message it gives off changes. For a time it was heavy on prep topics. Lately it has been a battle ground but this will change. People move on and world events change.
I see 2016 as a pivotal year because of the economy. We clearly have an economic transition happening with Chinese growth decline and US fed policy changes. Business cycles occur even in repressed financial regimes.
A recession now will be different than a recessions of the past because of the rate repression and spent funds for easing. We have a debt problem that could explode into across the board bad debt. This points to a deflationary trap.
The key here is the “when”. When will all those red lines with widespread “law of minimums” be crossed converging into a minimum operating level breach for the whole system. When will global status quo decay cause a large chunk of humanity to go unsupported?
Oil issues seem to be playing out on a slightly longer time frame. We are surely gutting a critical industry and destabilizing oil nations. This can’t end well with all the other systematic implications. The oil issues will likely guarantee no recovery from a recession.
On a slightly longer time frame is the unknown with climate. Climate is already making itself felt. When will it affect food production? We have no food issues globally but few realize how close we are to food insecurity with just one food production disruption event.
Food and fuel will likely eventually go into shortage causing society wide crisis. Once in crisis we are at the end of status quo. Status quo must be global and must have a minimum growth for confidence and liquidity. The question is time frame with duration and degree.
Curly, welcome and contribute because we need your voice. We need your support. There is psychological safety in numbers. We need more doomers and preppers. I also welcome the status quo cornucopians to keep me real.
I have been at this doom and prep game since 2000. I have so many times thought it will be next year when the dramatic change occurs. I was close in 08. When I came on this board I was 3-5. I am 3 and under now. I cannot predict the degree of crisis but I feel we are close to some kind of significant crisis.
Davy on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 5:05 am
Some of you that hate the elites should get your facts in order. This is again an issue of your fate and the cocky unsupported talk. A significant amount of elites are those whose skills keep food on your table. These are those folks who’s skills and position is critical. I am not talking the Devils with too much money and political power. I am talking the maybe 10 percent who make the status quo and your 3 meals possible.
You can hate these people and want their fall but remember you likely can not fill their shoes. Many here just blather, boast, and predict like a digital drinking hole where the whiskey is the pride and hubris.
JuanP on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 6:19 am
Almost everyone in the world is waiting for the day when the police states we live in will collapse to send the elites where they belong: HELL!
The world would be a much better place without them. To think otherwise is delusional, exceptionalist thinking on the part of the narcissistic elites.
Nobody likes the elites because they are a bunch of narcissistic spoiled brats!
onlooker on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 6:38 am
Ain’t that the truth Juan. I think Trump epitomizes them quite well.
JuanP on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 6:55 am
Onlooker, I actually met the Donald around 15 years ago. He loves hanging in Miami Beach. My wife and I had lunch with him and his daughter once at some friends’ home. We spent like four hours with the guy. I couldn’t possibly have a lower opinion of him. Trump has no class, manners, intelligence, or education, all he has is money. His behavior was disgusting, even his table manners were awful. We did not enjoy that meal. Our friends apologized to us later and never invited the Trumps again to their home.
joe on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 7:06 am
Oil supply is a function of price, not tech. If unlimited oil supplies exist, then it’s price is doomed. Thus supply is doomed. Tech and credit have burst the commodities bubble created by China after the Great Recession.
That’s all. The real markets determine the price and thus supply and on and on….
makati1 on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 7:10 am
I have a plan for all of the 1%ers, including all of the Generals and Admirals in the world.
Drop them all off at the South Pole in winter, with nothing but a hunting knife for each one, and let them freeze to death or use their knives in any way they see fit as they would be told that the last one standing would be rescued in 10 days … (only to be dropped in the middle of the Gobi Desert without any water). Bait and switch. A favorite tactic of their kind.
Nasty bastard aren’t I? Actually that would be too good for them but … a great lesson for any wannabees.
onlooker on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 7:47 am
I also know a story I read on some blog. In involves baby Bush the son. He was somewhere pretty much alone with a think one other person plus a reporter. This blog is from testimony by the reporter present. He stated that he asked Bush a question but referred to him as Sir. Well Bush had a fit apparently and scolded him and told him that he should refer to him as President only. I mean they were virtually alone no need to embarrass him that way but that is the way they are Another story is from a friend of the family who worked in the Waldorf Astoria in NY. One of the sheikhs of the Royals of KSA was eating there with his entourage. A waiter approached him and made the mistake of touching him. Oh my God what a scandal the sheikh demanded immediate apology and stated he never wished to be served by that particular waiter again. That is the way they are, so full of themselves.
onlooker on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 8:03 am
Just one more story a rule in some Asian country recently passed a law that declared it illegal to say anything bad about him under penalty of life in prison or something like that. Well a media person said something bad about his dog. Just the same that person was incarcerated. Contemptible turds
Davy on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 9:28 am
Sounds like the French Revolution again. Killem, hangem, butcher em, I want blood so goes that old song. Big talk from small people feeling big.
The fact is the elites may deserve punishment but they will just be replaced by new elites. What is more likely is the whole system will collapse in dysfunction and decay. Then what? Then everyone will die. Hurrah for death and destruction.
That is really a fools wish without the consequences. Talk is the easy part. I never hear the alternative and if I do it is just a myth of misguided anger and hubristic gaming.
JuanP on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 10:25 am
Onlooker, that was probably the king of Thailand. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhumibol_Adulyadej
Monarchies have always had lèse majesté laws that make criticizing or insulting royalty a crime punishable by law. The punishment for that offense was most commonly death, but not any longer in most places, but in KSA, the American empire’s ally in the ME they will still publicly behead you for that.
peakyeast on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 11:09 am
7.5T barrels / 300mio years = about 25.000 b/y “sustainable” consumption? 🙂
Keith_McClary on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 11:56 am
rockman on Sat, 2nd Jan 2016 10:18 pm

“Every covered the obviously goofy arguments.”
The one about vast, ginormous, humungous discoveries was conspicuously missing. This seems to have been crossed off the official Cornie talking points list.
GregT on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 12:27 pm
“Big talk from small people feeling big.”
History has a nasty habit of repeating itself. Maybe one day the Human race will finally get it right, and put an end to attitudes such as this, or maybe we will simply fail as a dead end, big and small species.
Apneaman on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 1:07 pm
Davy says, “A significant amount of elites are those whose skills keep food on your table.”
Spoken like a true 1% brat. That little meme is straight out of a 1%er funded neoliberal think tank. Actually the revers is true. The 1% are parasites and feed off the common man – we feed them. Davy is in full mommy and daddy protection mode today. Davy why don’t you try burping up that line to the locals next time you are down at the feed store playing gentleman farmer? Tell them that the raping of their country and lives by the elites over the last 40 years was for their own good and they should be grateful. What a first class asshole.
Apneaman on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 1:25 pm
How technology has stopped evolution and is destroying the world
Doug Tompkins, founder of The North Face, on battles with Steve Jobs and why we need to dismantle our techno-industrial society
http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/technology-stopped-evolution-destroying-world
Davy on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 1:27 pm
Coming from a disabled drug addict spending his day generating dopamine hits by personal attacks that is a compliment. It is said HepC treatments destroy personalities and you Ape Turd are a prime example. Drugs destroyed your life now you want everyone else to pay.
I asked a simple question from the gang what is your game plan? All I can see from your multiple comments for a game plan is a grand lynching and that is what we had in the French Revolution after that it is let the chips fall where they may. That is not a plan that is a game of chance.
I am ready for change but realistic change. I see the only alternative now is ride the current ship down. Untill I see a coherent plan I am not going to buy into games of hate with fantasy outcomes. You guys are heavy on destruction but have no clue what to replace it with. Until you have a plan you are just an angry rabble selling emotions of anger, hate, and resentment.
geopressure on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 1:44 pm
Apneaman;
Serious Question: What grade are you in?
Apneaman on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 2:13 pm
Davy’s spits his venom again. Guess your not as warmNfuzzy as you claim. Alcohol and drugs almost destroyed my life, but I beat them 20 years ago, so you’ll have to do better than that. I also beat the Hep-C no worse for the wear although some small amount of people have problems long after as with all forms of chemotherapy, but keep trying Davy. You think you are some kind of leader? Self appointed maybe. Do you really think anyone would follow a spoiled baby who throws low blows and temper tantrums and spits venom then in the same post, says he is ready for change and goes on again about pie in the sky solutions then ends with more ad homs?. I woulden’t follow you into a whore house on “free fucks” day. You are the one who is unstable – knife fighter. Also, I never brought up or promoted any revolution or violence, so don’t try and hang that one on me. Violence is coming – it’s what apes do when stressed. You’re too serious and self important Davy. That’s the big difference between us. You still think any of this shit matters whereas I don’t. Like you, it’s all one big fucking joke. Ha ha ha.
Apneaman on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 2:17 pm
The Imminent Collapse of Civilization
December 31, 2015
http://aesirlab.com/writings/vol2-13
JuanP on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 2:56 pm
The narcissistic delusional American exceptionalist board bully spews his bullshit once more. With every single comment he writes he proves beyond any reasonable that he is a seriously mentally ill one percenter American piece of trash. I wonder what would have been of him if his daddy hadn’t employed him his whole life and bought him the farm he lives in to hide him away from the family’s friends and civilized society. Would a McDonalds hire someone like him? I doubt it, he is not even good enough to flip burgers in a fast food joint. He would be a homeless bum living on welfare if it wasn’t for his one percenter piece shit daddy and his whore of a mother.
Davy, Apneaman is one thousand times a better man than you ever were or ever will be. You are a profoundly deranged and disturbed fucktard.
JuanP on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 3:13 pm
Davy, I have never in my life insulted another human being the way I just insulted you and your family. I warned you that if you picked a fight with me you would never again enjoy coming to this board. You picked a fight you can’t win. What has me really surprised is that I am starting to actually enjoy it. I will make your life on this board a living hell, fucktard!
My apologies to the rest of the board members for this because I know this somewhat ruins the board for normal people, but I intend to fight Davy as much as I can in the future in an extremely brutal way. That white trash American piece of shit of a Neanderthal has no idea what he is in for.
JuanP on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 3:21 pm
Davy, You treatened me yesterday and said that if I did this I would regret it. So what are you going to do about it, fucktard? Oh, I am soooo scared of Davy’s revenge I am shitting on my pants. If you could see how deranged your comments sound, you would be filled with shame, but I know narcissistic jerks like you can’t experience shame because you are completely incapable of admitting that you ever made a mistake. No wonder your wife left you, your daughter hates you, and nobody likes you. When your twins grow up they will spit in your face, too.
Davy on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 5:23 pm
Juan is due for a time out. A few weeks ago he had a breakdown when the fighting got too intense. Looks like he is getting close again. If you pussies are going to dish it out learn to take it like men.
Apneaman on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 6:38 pm
What would you know about being a man silver spoon? Your assertion earlier that those of us not born with the silver spoon would not have food on the table without your kind is the most condescending blanket insult to come out of your self superior elitist mouth yet. Basically you are telling everyman or woman on here who did not have your advantages that they are all fucking useless without your mommy and daddy’s kind. None of their hard work counts eh? Everyone who stayed in school or grinded away to pay the bills are nothing but useless eaters riding on the coattails of the elite 1%ers. You’re a little man davy boy. A spoiled rotten, middle aged, little rich boy pretending to be a man.
Dubya on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 6:46 pm
It does get a little boring having to read through the obscenities and name calling to see if something worthwhile was written.
A suggestion – if you don’t like a post you could ignore it, or even say “I disagree”.
I think the fact that there are 5 billion too many people on the planet is ample evidence that Davy’s statement ‘some of the elite are responsible for keeping us alive’ is valid. Fabre Bosch fertilizer, petroleum, tractors are not cottage industries. Is Rex Tillerson responsible? – no. But he helps keeps the system running.
I’m not particularly enamoured with the big corporations for this very reason.
On the other hand probably our only chance of avoiding a biosphere collapse is to mostly return to agrarian / peasant farmer society of a billion or so people. So far I’m just riding the wave of all the 1st world who are giving up their pickups that have never seen dirt, inefficient houses, big screen tv, snowmobiles, fashionable clothes etc…
sidzepp on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 6:48 pm
I was introduced to the concept of Peak Oil back in 2005. Since then the more exposure to the consequences of this illusive topic as changed me in immeasurable ways. Living in the Florida Panhandle, or the Trump heartland, I have found this site to be an invaluable source of information in Herculean task of opening the eyes of the denialists. Unfortunately, it seems that much of the dialogue on this site has devolved into shouting matches and name calling that would make the Fox network envious. The truth is that we are all individuals who face a common challenge and all of us should rise above the fray. Simple rule of thumb is that most of the posts that have been read are from people who are concerned and even if you disagree, let them speak their mind. If there are solutions to our existing problems it will happen because a wide range of people will work together in making it a better place. Let us cease with the constant name calling.
onlooker on Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 6:52 pm
Bravo Sid a voice of reason in a world that needs as many of them as possible.