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Sanctions-Proof Oil Rig Thwarts US Policy From Cuba to Russia

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The oil rig was built mostly in China and drilled its first well in Cuba. Now it’s delivering a victory for Russia in its fight against U.S. sanctions.

Italian oil giant Eni SpA and Russia’s state-controlled Rosneft PJSC are using the Scarabeo 9 ultra-deepwater rig to drill in water more than 2,000 meters (6,600 feet) deep in the Black Sea. It’s the first well drilled by a western company at a Russian oil project that falls squarely under U.S. sanctions imposed on the sector in 2014.

For Vladimir Putin, it’s a second energy-sector victory in a little over a week after the $27 billion Yamal liquefied natural gas project started shipping cargoes despite U.S. sanctions against its controlling shareholder.

“It is important not because of the size, but from a geopolitical perspective it is key,” said Alejandro Demichelis, director at boutique investment bank Hannam & Partners. “Eni and the Italians in general have been closer to Russia than they have been to the U.S., at least in terms of oil and gas. They have always been on Putin’s side to solve problems.”

Rosneft Chief Executive Officer Igor Sechin said on Monday that drilling had started on the Maria-1 well in the past few days, highlighting the “technological complexity” of the project.

Legal Loopholes

It’s also legally complex. Indeed, a request from Exxon Mobil Corp. earlier this year for a sanctions waiver to drill with Rosneft at a nearby license was rejected by the U.S. government.

For Eni to drill the well, which falls under U.S. and European sanctions targeting Russian shale, Arctic and deepwater oil development, the Italian company had to exploit a series of loopholes.

First, while European Union sanctions largely mirror those of the U.S., they do allow the “grandfathering” of projects that were agreed before sanctions were imposed.

Second, the Scarabeo 9, which is owned by Saipem SpA, is no ordinary deepwater rig. It was built mostly in China, to a Norwegian design. That means it sidesteps U.S. trade sanctions that restrict the use of U.S.-made or -designed equipment, even by non-U.S. companies.

The rig’s first outing in 2012 was to drill for Repsol SA off Cuba.

Made in China

“The Scarabeo 9 is one of the very few units in the industry which is using a technology which is not an American one,” Saipem’s then CEO Pietro Franco Tali told investors before its maiden voyage to Cuba.

In a letter to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in 2014, National Oilwell Varco Inc. confirmed it had sold a blow-out preventer, a key piece of high-tech kit, to Scarabeo 9 before the Cuba project. The Houston-based company said it stopped providing equipment to the rig as soon as it knew where it would be operating.

Earlier this year, the rig spent several months in port in the Canary Islands to make its towers bendable so it could pass through the Bosphorus and get to the Black Sea.

Eni and Saipem discussed the drilling campaign with the U.S. and Italian governments and received authorization to proceed, according to people familiar with the matter who asked not to be named because the talks were private.

Eni and Saipem declined to comment.

Frontier Well

Sechin said on Monday that the West-Chernomorsky block where Eni and Rosneft are drilling could contain 600 million tons of oil and 100 billion cubic meters of gas.

“You have quite a large chance of finding something there,” said Christian Boermel, senior Russia analyst at consultants Wood Mackenzie, though he added that it remained unproven. “It’s very much a frontier well.”

Still, analysts said Eni’s main objective was probably to maintain good relations with Rosneft, which recently paid $1.125 billion for a stake in the Italian company’s Zohr field off Egypt.

Rosneft had originally agreed to develop the Black Sea license with Chevron Corp. in 2010, before the U.S. company walked away after drilling a dry well in nearby Turkish waters.

Tightening Sanctions

Eni’s Black Sea well may end up being an outlier rather than a trendsetter. A new law passed by U.S. congress this year strengthens sanctions on the Russian oil industry by extending them to any non-U.S. person who “knowingly makes a significant investment” into a Russian deepwater, shale or offshore Arctic project after Sept. 1, 2017.

Eni’s Black Sea project was able to proceed in spite of this and thanks to lobbying by the Italian government and the fact the company had agreed to the drilling program before sanctions were imposed, according to a person familiar with the matter. The company is unlikely to drill more than one well in the area, said another person.

Still, the drilling sets a new benchmark for the ability of companies from U.S. allies to work in Russia’s oil sector.

A Japanese group’s plans to explore for oil with Rosneft off the coast of Sakhalin were stymied earlier this year after the U.S. objected, saying that G-7 allies shouldn’t “backfill” sanctions by allowing their companies to carry out projects barred to U.S. ones.

“It clearly gives Eni an advantage in terms of their relationship with Rosneft,” said James Henderson, a Russian oil expert at the Oxford Institute of Energy Studies. “You can understand why Exxon are upset about that.”

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86 Comments on "Sanctions-Proof Oil Rig Thwarts US Policy From Cuba to Russia"

  1. Boat on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 12:38 pm 

    Sounds like a sanctions net from *Cuba to Russia with an oil rig darting in and out of sanctioned danger water to drill 3 wells. Those brave anti US drillers. Make a book for the Canadians and a movie for me.

  2. print baby print on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 12:44 pm 

    After Kuluk everything is clear

  3. Makati1 on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 6:43 pm 

    Boat, the world is turning against the US big time. I hope you are giving your future rational thought.

  4. JuanP on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 6:56 pm 

    Russia and China can develop any technology they want on their own and they have the resources to build the equipment, too. Russia is the BIGGEST country in the world by far and has more natural resources than any other country. Russia also stands to benefit more than any other country from global warming. There is no country in the world with more resources per capita and the capacity to defend them from the USA and its military. Russia can completely destroy the USA in a matter of minutes. Russia is bigger than the USA and very strong and that is why Americans hate Russia so much.

  5. Boat on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 7:36 pm 

    Juan P,

    Who gives a shut about Russia or China. Wish Putin would learn from China about renewables though. I wish both countries all the best during this holiday season.

  6. Boat on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 7:40 pm 

    Mak,

    I remember posters say the world was turning against the US since GW, Clinton, Obama and now Trump. You have turned so much your going in circles.

  7. Makati1 on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 7:41 pm 

    Boat,YOUR should “give a shit” about Russia and China. BOTH have the ability to annihilate the US in a few minutes. Or longer, by financial means. I hope they take down the dollar so that it is worthless, not use nukes to do it. We can survive financial Armageddon, but not nuclear.

  8. Makati1 on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 7:45 pm 

    Boat, it has been happening, but now it is speeding up. The murdering and plundering the US has been doing in the last 15 years is now advertised on the internet and more and more people are seeing the US for what it is. The bully is about to be taken down and YOU will pay the price for supporting the US mafia.

  9. Boat on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 7:50 pm 

    Mak,

    Bless your heart but don’t be an extremist this close to Christmas. There will be no Armageddon. Only little dictators like to die. China and Russia are safe.

  10. Makati1 on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 8:04 pm 

    Boat, Christmas is a commercial holiday now. Designed to sell shit and make $$$. It is just another day designed by religion to control the masses.

    Climate change does not recognize a holiday, why should I?

    The chaos and death in the US does not recognize a holiday.

    The US wars of choice do not recognize a holiday.

    The contraction of the US economy does not recognize a holiday.

    The hypocrites go to church on holidays as if that negates all of the bad they did the other days.

    I have a calendar for 2018 that does not show any ‘holidays’ as they are ALL man-made and unimportant.

    So, why should this time of year be any different? It IS the shortest day in the northern hemisphere on the Winter Solstice, December 21st, but that, and the Summer Solstice, are the only days I recognize as special. They are not man-made.
    .

  11. MASTERMIND on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 8:53 pm 

    Madkat

    China and Russia could not beat the US and our allies like Europe and Israel in a war. We would utterly destroy them both. Russia has a GDP the size of Italy. And China doesn’t have the military technology that we do. All Russia wants to do is sell their oil and gas in peace and let their Mafia government stay in charge. And all China wants to do is keep their slave shops running and their elites in charge.

  12. Makati1 on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 9:06 pm 

    MM, the Russians could end the US in about 20 minutes.

    The Chinese could take down the US financial system in a few days.

    Both could explode an EMP over Kansas and take the US into the stone age in minutes.

    The US is not safe anywhere today. You actually believe that if the US keeps poking the bear and the dragon that they are not going to retaliate? Think again, boy.

    Your delusions will not protect you.

  13. GregT on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 9:11 pm 

    Washington Post – August 16, 2016

    “Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, at his Senate confirmation hearing in July 2015:

    “If you want to talk about a nation that could pose an existential threat to the United States, I would have to point to Russia. And if you look at their behavior, it’s nothing short of alarming.”

    “China worries some Pentagon officials even more than Russia. A recent study by the Rand Corp., titled “War With China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable,” warned: “Improvements in Chinese military capabilities mean that a war would not necessarily go the way U.S. war planners plan it. ”

    “Top Pentagon officials say that because of Russian and Chinese advances, the U.S. military’s “overmatch” has diminished. Planners can no longer guarantee a president that the United States could prevail in the early days of a conventional conflict; they fear that the United States might lose “escalation dominance” — meaning, basically, the ability to call the shots — in a future confrontation.”

    https://tinyurl.com/yaj6zv8b

  14. MASTERMIND on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 9:17 pm 

    GregT

    That study was about the US alone against China or Russia. That will never happen because we also have all of Europe and Israel and Canada and Australia and Japan, and South Korea..Need I say anymore you dumb Canadian oxen? What about you Madkat do I need to name anymore countries that have our back? Hell the USA and Israel and UK and France and Germany could totally destroy China and Russia in a few days. We can totally swarm Asia no problem at all. China wont dare they are to busy running a slave state…

  15. MASTERMIND on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 9:19 pm 

    Madkkat

    Yes the Russians could end us but that would also end them as well. And most likely all the life on earth in a nuclear winter event. So I doubt that would ever happen since the leaders of both countries live amazing lives they would like to keep living. And nobody is going to drop an EMP you moron. That would cause all the nuke plants to melt down and would be an extinction event for all humans.

  16. Makati1 on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 9:36 pm 

    MM, You “have” shit. All those countries would love to sit back and allow the US to be taken down. Not to mention that all of them don’t add up to either China OR Russia’s military. The US has not “won” anything in over 100 years. Whereas, the Russians have. Syria being the most recent.

    Did you ever consider that, if the Russians see themselves in a losing position and the likelihood that the US will use nukes, that they would not push the button first. After all, if the world is going down, the ideas is to take your enemy down with you. You need to do some serious Russian history research. Not the US propaganda version. The Russians won WW2, not the US.

  17. Cloggie on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 9:43 pm 

    Columbus, Theodore Roosevelt “symbols of hate” in NYC. “Too white”, “raycist”.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/02/arts/academics-and-artists-weigh-in-on-controversial-city-monuments.html

    The US attempting to erase its own history and become an ideological state.

    USSR 2.0 here we come.

  18. Boat on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 9:49 pm 

    Mak,

    You were a pro crash doomer citing various scenarios close to 5 years ago. Got the crash narrowed down yet? It used to be world crash, the last year it’s more US crash. Good to see your flexibility.

  19. GregT on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 9:50 pm 

    “That study was about the US alone against China or Russia.”

    Correct, it did not address both China and Russia together, against the US. Like you said above:

    “China and Russia could not beat the US and our allies like Europe and Israel in a war.”

    And you might want to take a closer look at European ties.

  20. MASTERMIND on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 9:55 pm 

    Madkat and Gregt

    US, UK, Germany, France, Australia, Japan, Israel, Canada, Saudi Arabia, South Korea, Taiwan,

    VS China and Russia

    Hmmmm I wonder who would win? You idiots are so deluded. We run the world…USA USA!!

  21. Boat on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 9:56 pm 

    Clog,

    Welcome to the headwinds for your alt right US agenda. Lol

  22. MASTERMIND on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 9:57 pm 

    CLoggie

    Nobody is erasing history you paranoid buffoon…Get a grip you broke ass loser…Stop trying to make everyone in the world as miserable as you are. And Eugenics is a debunked science..And Asians have much higher IQ’s than white Europeans.

  23. Boat on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 9:58 pm 

    Btw, I think they are as bat shyt as you are.

  24. Makati1 on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 10:03 pm 

    Boat, I am a collapse observer. It is already underway. If you rely on fake numbers like the Stock Market Casino for evidence, you will be like the million on the day before Black Tuesday, 1929. Partying like there was no tomorrow. Well tomorrow came and millionaires were committing suicide or trying to sell their ea pensive cars for pennies on the dollar, with no buyers. Might I suggest you watch these during the holidays?

    “The Crash of 1929” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EPTCm9RVRM

    “Stinging Dust & Forgotten Lives: The Dust Bowl” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzo9wtXfHGk

    If you are intelligent, you will recognize the close similarities to today.

  25. Makati1 on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 10:05 pm 

    Davy, MM and Boat. Poster boys for the reason the US is failing. Perfect examples. All three are deluded, brainwashed snowflakes.

  26. Boat on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 10:11 pm 

    Mal,

    Those are not fake numbers. There may be hundreds of factors that make up a number. The best at decimating those factors try to make money. You blow it off because your a little weird. Lol

  27. Makati1 on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 10:16 pm 

    MM, I can assure you that the US is “erasing” history and rewriting it to suit their propaganda. They are trying to be what they are not. like a lot of Americans. Problem is, too many people are still alive and know better. Hence, the internet sources you do not like/believe. Truth is hard to hide in the modern, connected world. Bullshit glares like the sun at noon. Obvious to all but the most gullible.

  28. GregT on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 10:23 pm 

    “US, UK, Germany, France, Australia, Japan, Israel, Canada, Saudi Arabia, South Korea, Taiwan,”

    UK:

    The UK and US: The myth of the special relationship

    “May could find herself in the position that Tony Blair did with respect to the Bush presidency,” warned Parakilas. “That is, trying to stay close to the US and being linked into some kind of unpopular and distracting and damaging foreign engagement.”

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/02/uk-myth-special-relationship-170221082834995.html

    Germany:

    Top German official: Relations with US ‘will never be the same’ after Trump

    http://thehill.com/policy/international/363489-top-german-official-relations-with-us-will-never-be-the-same-after-trump

    France:

    The ups and downs of Franco-American relations

    “Various candidates in the run-up to the 2017 French presidential election, including three of the four leading contenders (the far-right Marine Le Pen, the conservative Francois Fillon and the far-left candidate Mélenchon), promoted closer ties with Moscow in a direct affront to US sensibilities.”

    http://theconversation.com/the-ups-and-downs-of-franco-american-relations-81215

    Australia:

    Could Trump fracture US and Australia’s ‘great alliance’?

    “I think there will be long term consequences,” Australian National University School of Politics professor John Warhurst told CNN. “It may well be that Trump’s US and the rest of the world is fundamentally changed over the coming years.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/02/asia/australia-us-relationship-trump-turnbull/index.html

    Are you beginning to get the picture MM?

  29. MASTERMIND on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 10:49 pm 

    GregT

    The US and its allies have had up and downs their whole history. But if a major world war broke out they would have are back for sure..Just because i destroyed your argument you are grasping at straws. I dont think a few news stories really means shit. Look at all the migrants Europe is taking in thanks to the US blowing the shit out of Muslim countries in the middle east and Africa.

  30. Cloggie on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 10:51 pm 

    “China and Russia could not beat the US and our allies like Europe and Israel in a war.”

    Don’t for second think that Europe will let push itself in a war against Russia and China because of US adventurism in South-East Asia.

    If Russia and/or China would invade the US, we are obliged by treaty to help the US, but that won’t happen anyway.

    The US becoming embroiled in a conflict with China would open up tremendous geopolitical opportunities for Europe.

    #ParisBerlinMoscow

    Now go beat these “gooks” millimind.

  31. Makati1 on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 10:52 pm 

    Boat, your deluded, greedy mind wants to believe in the Wall Street Casino. It is all puff and bullshit. The Crash of 29′ dropped 85% before it bottomed out three years later. Yes, 85%. No real value, just hype, like today.

    A lot of people thought they were smart enough to get out at the top, but few did. Greed finished them off. It is going to happen again. This time there will be no “recovery” and the depression will last forever.

  32. Makati1 on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 10:57 pm 

    MM, the US has ‘friends’ on paper only. And Trump is shredding those papers every day by threatening some new country with wars, financial or real. Eventually the bully stands alone. THAT is the US future.

  33. Cloggie on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 10:58 pm 

    “And Asians have much higher IQ’s than white Europeans.”

    Complete BS

    Europe 100
    China 100
    US 98

    But IQ is not the only factor, Asians are way to conformist to come up with something new.

    Europe is the only show in town and always will be. Americans are trying to keep up with limited success but it remains Mozart against Johnny Cash:

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/26/origin-scientific-accomplishments/

    Now on your knees, you fool.

  34. GregT on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 11:03 pm 

    “Look at all the migrants Europe is taking in thanks to the US blowing the shit out of Muslim countries in the middle east and Africa.”

    Europeans in general, are not overly happy about that MM. Part of the reason why old alliances are crumbling. Living in the Canadian tax farm, I can tell you without any doubt, there is little support for involvement in any more US led wars. I’m sure that Trudeau would send in a token CF-18 advanced strike fighter or two, just to keep the banksters and the industrialists appeased, but the general public have absolutely had enough. Trump’s latest trade deals have also really pissed a lot of people off. He isn’t making any friends MM, he’s losing them.

  35. Cloggie on Wed, 20th Dec 2017 11:24 pm 

    New Dutch government data: in 2060 Holland will be 34% darkies:

    https://nltimes.nl/2017/12/19/netherlands-population-getting-diverse-hit-18-million-2031

    In other words: in 43 years Holland will be what the US is now, if it would be up to the US water carriers aka the Dutch government.

    Don’t count on it. The mood is swinging to the right in Europe. I think the Dutch government, Merkel, etc, are lamppost material. Letting yourself being subdued by Hottentots, that is just good enough for Americans like millimind.

    Haha, rising Dutch political star Thierry Baudet had a five hour meeting with alt-right “racist” Jared Taylor:

    https://www.nu.nl/politiek/5057579/baudet-ontmoette-extreem-rechtse-jared-taylor-om-verdiepen-in-alt-right.html

    Media fuming, but nobody gives a f* and Baudet is the only politician drawing large crowds these days.

    Baudet has been chosen “politician of the year” this week and wants to become PM and does not reject street fighter Geert Wilders. Here Baudet in Miami:

    https://youtu.be/7hXVTX-Rg8s

  36. MASTERMIND on Thu, 21st Dec 2017 12:04 am 

    CLoggie

    The bell curve has been debunked several times..Just like Hitlers Eugenics junk science. And the US is only 13 percent black people. The world is going to be running out of oil soon you retard…And then the global economy is going to collapse along with your dutch government. So there will be no right wing uprising because there isnt enough time and resources left for that. Obviously you cant handle reality so suit yourself.

  37. MASTERMIND on Thu, 21st Dec 2017 12:07 am 

    GregT

    Your country will fight along side the US if we need them in a major war. Do you really think your government gives a rats ass about what your people want? LOL They just want you to work and keep the tax farm going! And to be honest we dont really need your stupid country. French people suck at fighting wars just look how they let Hitler run right over them in WW2…

  38. GregT on Thu, 21st Dec 2017 12:20 am 

    “Your country will fight along side the US if we need them in a major war.”

    It isn’t my country MM. Canada is a set up as a Crown corporation.

    “Do you really think your government gives a rats ass about what your people want?”

    It isn’t my government, and they aren’t my people. 36 million other people, whom I have never met, nor do I wish to. I could care as much about them, as they do about me.

    “They just want you to work and keep the tax farm going!”

    I don’t work for them anymore. I retired at 53.

    “And to be honest we dont really need your stupid country. ”

    We? There are 323 Million people living within the US borders, with 330 Million differing opinions. You do not speak for all of them. They care as much about you, as you do about them. If you died tomorrow, 323 Million other people in the US wouldn’t even care, let alone even notice that you were gone.

    “French people suck at fighting wars”

    Again, if it wasn’t for those sucky French, the USA would still belong to Britain.

  39. Makati1 on Thu, 21st Dec 2017 12:21 am 

    MM, what does the French have to do with Canada other than that a few of them speak French?

    You might want to improve your education by looking at this site?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_origins_of_people_in_Canada (2016)

    “Canadian 32.2%, English 19.8%, French 15.5%, Scottish 14.4%, Irish 13.8%, German 9.8%, Italian 4.5%, Chinese 4.5%,..”

    And this one:

    http://www.indexmundi.com/canada/demographics_profile.html

    “Language: English (official) 58.7%, French (official) 22%,, Punjabi 1.4%, Italian 1.3%, Spanish 1.3%, German 1.3%, Cantonese 1.2%, Tagalog 1.2% (Filipino), Arabic 1.1%, other 10.5%”

    Get educated, boy.

  40. Makati1 on Thu, 21st Dec 2017 12:22 am 

    BTW: MM, if there is a “major war” the US will be toast by missile, not invasion. Canada will have no means to protect your sorry ass. It will be over in minutes.

  41. Cloggie on Thu, 21st Dec 2017 12:25 am 

    French people suck at fighting wars just look how they let Hitler run right over them in WW2…

    Americans really suck at war:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1985/05/05/their-wehrmacht-was-better-than-our-army/0b2cfe73-68f4-4bc3-a62d-7626f6382dbd/?utm_term=.700e76a9af23

    Can’t even beat tiny North-Vietnam, not even with the aid of South-Vietnam. The French just walked in and had the Vietnamese joint colonized for decades, something Americans with their virtual nuke, dollar and media empire can only dream about.

    Americans love to gloat about “French cheese eating surrender monkeys”, the truth is that their conquests in 1812 were on par with that of the Romans:

    https://io9.gizmodo.com/this-timelapse-shows-how-napoleon-nearly-conquered-all-1666756560

    Your Hottentot army is just good enough to keep Falludja for a few weeks. And in the end the Iraqies had the Americans driven back into the Green Zone, with grenades lobbed into it; the Americans could hardly make it to the airport, 5 miles away.

    And now you want to fight Russia and China at the same time.rofl You have my blessing millimind, go for it. And don’t forget to bring supertard and his wimmin army with you.

  42. Cloggie on Thu, 21st Dec 2017 12:29 am 

    Again, if it wasn’t for those sucky French, the USA would still belong to Britain.

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2014/11/25/the-second-american-revolution/

  43. GregT on Thu, 21st Dec 2017 12:30 am 

    “Canada will have no means to protect your sorry ass.”

    Judging by how badly overrun with Chinese Canada has become, Canada would more likely become a forward base for China.

  44. MASTERMIND on Thu, 21st Dec 2017 12:33 am 

    Madkat

    You don’t think the US has missile defense systems you idiot? Not only is the worlds largest super power going down to a country that has 1/6 the size GDP as us..Its going down in a few minutes time…LOL You are so dumb and full of magical thoughts its hilarious. You must have your magic Mormon depends on to tight tonight! Well at least you didnt shit your paints! LOL

  45. MASTERMIND on Thu, 21st Dec 2017 12:37 am 

    CLoggie your blog is a total joke. and no comment section that is very telling. Observing the world of renewable s..LOL What world? You mean the less than one percent of total energy solar and wind provided last year. After over forty years of advancement and trillions of dollars wasted? LOL How pathetic. I mean this is simple numbers..If you believe forty years of progress and a few trillion dollars spent for 0.7 percent total energy is doing well. You are retarded…

  46. GregT on Thu, 21st Dec 2017 12:49 am 

    Name calling, childish rhetoric, and delusional accusations. As per usual.

    Give it a rest already.

  47. MASTERMIND on Thu, 21st Dec 2017 1:04 am 

    Madkat

    What happens in a few years when you cant control you bodily functions and you shit and piss your paints while watching TV? Resources are going to be running out soon and I am afraid depends might not be around much longer.You better stock up on some pampers instead…You can add those to your prepps…LOL Just tell the cashier they are for your grand daughter…LOL

  48. MASTERMIND on Thu, 21st Dec 2017 1:05 am 

    Madkat

    Also dont forget to buy some new rubber sheets for night time…You wouldn’t want to piss and shit all over your mattress…LOL Or you can just use your hand to wipe your ass like the Muslims do in your country…LOL

  49. GregT on Thu, 21st Dec 2017 1:13 am 

    More name calling, childish rhetoric, and delusional accusations.

    You are one seriously deranged individual.

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